My hope is that the True Believers get so pissed at Obama that they want to lynch him - that means he is probably taking middle of the road policies and compromising on things. You know - governing.
On another board someone noted that the President Elect walked into his first intelligence briefing smiling fr the cameras and he came out looking like he'd been hit between the eyes with a hammer. Hopefully that was a solid reminder that "governing" is different than "campaigning".
The OP didn't say "bullshit political jab", he said "political jabs and bullshit". This implies that the political jabs are the part he's most irritated at, and the bullshit that goes with them. And I agree with him. Slashdot seems to have a pattern where EVERY topic has Bush's name invoked. Why?
I once asked what those posters were going to do once Obama took office. Apparently, the answer was that Bush will remain the bogeyman until the next republican president.
That... was my point. How many people are dying because the government wants to keep people safe? I guess dying of natural causes because of the nonexistence of a cure is better than dying from a drug prematurely brought to market...
It has nothing to do with what's logical; it has to with what people WANT. Congress didn't make up the regulation from thin air; their constituents were screaming for it. Were their constituents easily panicked lemmings? Yup. But you'll never convince the populace that they are wrong using logic. It's not fair, but it is reality.
Hey, that book chapter I posted above even has a section about this: It's called, "The Illusion of Protection: Thalidomide."
I read the Thalidomide parts and skimmed some of the other paragraphs, and she kept talking about "agression". So I clicked on the book cover. Here's an exertp of the blurb on the flyleaf:
Dr. Ruwart shows us how to transcend these win-lose scenarios by systematically applying the win-win tactics to our social interaction that have proves so successful in our personal lives. HEALING OUR WORLD is the first book to integrate the common elements of our Judeo-Christian heritage, the personal self-responsibility of the Aquarian Age, and the political self-responsibility of the worldwide libertarian movement. "The Easy Way Out" os the realization that others do not create our global harmony and abundance any more than they create our inner peace and enrichment; our reactions to others determine our fate.
So, libertarian views on government, Judeo-Christian view on morality, and "Aquarian Age" views on personal responsibility. Sorry, I don't generally take advise from schizophrenics.
"Thanks Bush for making it so life-saving treatment research got delayed so much. You stupid fuck."
Fuck Yeah! Because we KNOW it will work, and we KNOW that the existing lines are useless, and we KNOW that the only thing stopping the miracle cures was lack of Federal funding, and we KNOW there won't be side affects, and we KNOW that adult stem cell research will amount to nothing.
Or, it could be that the technology just wasn't ready yet? Christopher Reeve, may he rest in peace, did medical research a tremendous disservice by giving the impression that stem cell research could allow him to walk again. In the popular culture, this got translated to "Bush killed Superman!!!". But it takes years for ANY therapeutic treatment to get approval for human trials, even the most minor of drugs.
Bush disallowed GOVERNMENT funding of new cell lines, not private funding. If embryonic stem cells were the miracle cure that people have been claiming, you'd think there'd be plenty of private money for it.
I always loved the sense of superiority that urban dwellers get when they see these statistics. But think a little bit - don't cities get something from the rural areas? Might that be, oh, food? Drinking water?
Let me clue you in - rural areas need cities a hell of a lot less than cities need rural areas. Lets assume that the flow of tax dollars is evened out. So, with fewer dollars coming in to the rural states, what will happen? The farmers and ranchers will raise their prices to compensate. And who gets to pay that increased price? City dwellers, because they are a captive market.
Don't think that I'm a proponent of farm subsidies - far from it. But farm subsidies insulate cities as well as farms - how would you like the price of bread to wildly fluctuate month to month? I'd prefer to have the rest of the country feel it when crops fail, and the cities will feel it much harder than the farmers.
There are many advantages to living in a city, but you still have to pay - one way or another.
I agree 100%, and that's why I was responding to the OP who said:
The taps that were set up for the NSA were at the backbones, where they had access to all communications, incoming and outgoing. Since it is impossible, even for the NSA, to know with 100% certainty who was at the end of each communication, they would have had to collect everything, as well as store everything. At that point, it is irrelevant what they said they did with the mountains of data they collected.
The OP was doubly wrong - not only is it possible to sort data real time (thanks for your info, btw), but it isn't possible to store it ALL, permanently. I believe he was picturing the data equivalent of the warehouse where the ARC is held - *everything* goes in the bit-bucket, to be analyzed at leisure. I just wasn't very clear in my 1st response.
I should have made my comment more clear. I was not objecting to the monitor part, but the storage. From the numbers you quoted above, storing ALL the data permanently (as the GP asserted). The packet data ALONE is >7TB per day, how much per day is the contents of the packets? And then storing them permanently?
"The taps that were set up for the NSA were at the backbones, where they had access to all communications, incoming and outgoing. Since it is impossible, even for the NSA, to know with 100% certainty who was at the end of each communication, they would have had to collect everything, as well as store everything. At that point, it is irrelevant what they said they did with the mountains of data they collected."
I've seen that theory posted here before, and I've seen the calculations on the amount of data that entails, and the conclusion was "You're nuts".
Ok, isn't ANYONE going to point out that the summary is totally wrong? The *Supreme* Court declined to hear the government's appeal of the Philadelphia appellate court's decision. It's not still squirming, it is dead. Deceased. Gone to meet it's maker. It would be pushing up daisies if the editors from Slashdot even bothered to RTFA.
Is congress going to try again? Of course. But this particular law has reached the end of its non-life.
Um, couldn't you just buy your own device and use whatever carrier you want?
Not from the U.S., I take it?
In the US you absolutely CAN buy your own device and hook it up to whatever carrier covers the system (GSM, EDGE, etc.) It's the law. What you CANNOT do is buy a supercool smartphone for the (subsidized) price of $99.99 - you have to buy at list.
It's not that Americans are being shafted because they can't get out of contracts they agreed to, but that we're addicted to having the latest phone and paying little for it.
Why do people assume it's so easy to magically improve the infrastructure of the entire US? Have you compared the size of America to the size of Europe or Japan? The lower 48 are huge even without including Alaska. I want faster broadband and improved cell phone coverage too but lets be realistic. We're a bit bigger than Japan / insert-random-euro-country-that-we-should-be-like.
Puh-lease. It's as simple as adding a line item in the upcoming stimulus plan. A few billion extra dollars isn't going to break the bank. And it will create jobs - high paying, stable jobs. And it will also help revive our education system.
...Patrick Fitzgerald began his grand jury investigation three months later knowing Armitage was a leaker (as did Attorney General John Ashcroft before turning over the investigation).
On March 6, 2007 a jury convicted Libby of "obstruction of justice, giving false statements to the FBI and perjuring himself, charges embodied in four of the five counts of the indictment"
So, the guy who actually committed the crime was given a total pass, but they convicted Libby for "obstructing" a bogus investigation?
I won't excuse all or even most of the things the administration did, but the Plame affair isn't a very sturdy stick to beat them with.
"You leeches, you scrimp on your taxes, never thank the government, and then have the gall to tar all public servents - people who spend their best years serving YOU - with the same, tired accusations. Tell me, how to you square the 'public service = cushy' claim with the 'US = most powerful country' circle? Do you think the infrastructure, social safety net, military, judiciary, etc., all just run on automatic?"
Hmmm, sore spot?
"Scrimp on my taxes?" Considering that it was a supreme court justice that said that no one is obligated to pay more than the law requires, are you accusing the entire nation of cheating?
"never thank the government?" #1, the "government" is an idea, an abstraction. You want me to say "Thank You" to a piece of paper? #2, those public servants are MY employees. As I help pay their salary, they are already receiving monetary compensation for doing their job. If an employee does an exemplary job, then they receive my "thanks", and a case of beer at Christmas.
"then have the gall to tar all public servents - people who spend their best years serving YOU - with the same, tired accusations?" As stated above, public servants are not some altruistic volunteer force; they are PAID to do their jobs and they receive excellent benefits packages. However, unlike other employees, they effectively cannot be fired, and their raises are locked in, so there is zero incentive to do the job well. In this environment, even a conscientious employee gets dragged down. So I am supposed to be grateful to my employees who are overpaid, undermotivated, and accountable to no one?
"Tell me, how to you square the 'public service = cushy' claim with the 'US = most powerful country' circle?" If I had any idea what this meant I'm sure the point would be just as inane as your others.
"Do you think the infrastructure, social safety net, military, judiciary, etc., all just run on automatic?" Of course not (and BTW, the military is NOT comprised of "public servants"). It takes people to run them. You seem to be of the opinion that, just because someone accomplishes a job, no matter how poorly or long, deserves our uncritical praise. I believe that you should perform your duties competently and effectively whether you get a pat on the back or not, and that if you excel you should be rewarded and if you fail there should be consequences.
Being the shining example of DC civil servants is like being the most buoyant turd at the sewage treatment plant - you'll get noticed, but you're still shit.
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Feel betrayed? Good.
Why are True Believers always so surprised when the object of their adulation turns out to have feet of clay?
My hope is that the True Believers get so pissed at Obama that they want to lynch him - that means he is probably taking middle of the road policies and compromising on things. You know - governing.
On another board someone noted that the President Elect walked into his first intelligence briefing smiling fr the cameras and he came out looking like he'd been hit between the eyes with a hammer. Hopefully that was a solid reminder that "governing" is different than "campaigning".
The OP didn't say "bullshit political jab", he said "political jabs and bullshit". This implies that the political jabs are the part he's most irritated at, and the bullshit that goes with them. And I agree with him. Slashdot seems to have a pattern where EVERY topic has Bush's name invoked. Why?
I once asked what those posters were going to do once Obama took office. Apparently, the answer was that Bush will remain the bogeyman until the next republican president.
It has nothing to do with what's logical; it has to with what people WANT. Congress didn't make up the regulation from thin air; their constituents were screaming for it. Were their constituents easily panicked lemmings? Yup. But you'll never convince the populace that they are wrong using logic. It's not fair, but it is reality.
I read the Thalidomide parts and skimmed some of the other paragraphs, and she kept talking about "agression". So I clicked on the book cover. Here's an exertp of the blurb on the flyleaf:
So, libertarian views on government, Judeo-Christian view on morality, and "Aquarian Age" views on personal responsibility. Sorry, I don't generally take advise from schizophrenics.
"Is there a way to stop with the political jabs and bullshit that has been floating around /. for the past few days? It's annoying."
You ARE aware this is Slashdot, right?
"Thanks Bush for making it so life-saving treatment research got delayed so much. You stupid fuck."
Fuck Yeah! Because we KNOW it will work, and we KNOW that the existing lines are useless, and we KNOW that the only thing stopping the miracle cures was lack of Federal funding, and we KNOW there won't be side affects, and we KNOW that adult stem cell research will amount to nothing.
Or, it could be that the technology just wasn't ready yet? Christopher Reeve, may he rest in peace, did medical research a tremendous disservice by giving the impression that stem cell research could allow him to walk again. In the popular culture, this got translated to "Bush killed Superman!!!". But it takes years for ANY therapeutic treatment to get approval for human trials, even the most minor of drugs.
Oh, and remember Thalidomide?
Bush disallowed GOVERNMENT funding of new cell lines, not private funding. If embryonic stem cells were the miracle cure that people have been claiming, you'd think there'd be plenty of private money for it.
I always loved the sense of superiority that urban dwellers get when they see these statistics. But think a little bit - don't cities get something from the rural areas? Might that be, oh, food? Drinking water?
Let me clue you in - rural areas need cities a hell of a lot less than cities need rural areas. Lets assume that the flow of tax dollars is evened out. So, with fewer dollars coming in to the rural states, what will happen? The farmers and ranchers will raise their prices to compensate. And who gets to pay that increased price? City dwellers, because they are a captive market.
Don't think that I'm a proponent of farm subsidies - far from it. But farm subsidies insulate cities as well as farms - how would you like the price of bread to wildly fluctuate month to month? I'd prefer to have the rest of the country feel it when crops fail, and the cities will feel it much harder than the farmers.
There are many advantages to living in a city, but you still have to pay - one way or another.
The order said that MS had to provide documentation. It didn't specify that it had to be correct.
Does ayone else read the original as "Give us what we want or you won't be able to do business"?
"Those who try to make a living out of it, are quite heartless cynic people. But brilliant, talented cynic people."
And, apparently, totally lacking in skills at grammar and spelling.
Given the level to which conversation has sunk, they ought to flip it around - prove that you are human via chat or IM.
I'm betting a significant percentage of the populace would fail.
(now, if only we could make that a requirement for voting...)
"How long until JEWS are no longer running these companies?"
Probably about as long as bigoted assholes are allowed to flap their gums.
I agree 100%, and that's why I was responding to the OP who said:
The OP was doubly wrong - not only is it possible to sort data real time (thanks for your info, btw), but it isn't possible to store it ALL, permanently. I believe he was picturing the data equivalent of the warehouse where the ARC is held - *everything* goes in the bit-bucket, to be analyzed at leisure. I just wasn't very clear in my 1st response.
I should have made my comment more clear. I was not objecting to the monitor part, but the storage. From the numbers you quoted above, storing ALL the data permanently (as the GP asserted). The packet data ALONE is >7TB per day, how much per day is the contents of the packets? And then storing them permanently?
"The taps that were set up for the NSA were at the backbones, where they had access to all communications, incoming and outgoing. Since it is impossible, even for the NSA, to know with 100% certainty who was at the end of each communication, they would have had to collect everything, as well as store everything. At that point, it is irrelevant what they said they did with the mountains of data they collected."
I've seen that theory posted here before, and I've seen the calculations on the amount of data that entails, and the conclusion was "You're nuts".
Ok, isn't ANYONE going to point out that the summary is totally wrong? The *Supreme* Court declined to hear the government's appeal of the Philadelphia appellate court's decision. It's not still squirming, it is dead. Deceased. Gone to meet it's maker. It would be pushing up daisies if the editors from Slashdot even bothered to RTFA.
Is congress going to try again? Of course. But this particular law has reached the end of its non-life.
In the US you absolutely CAN buy your own device and hook it up to whatever carrier covers the system (GSM, EDGE, etc.) It's the law. What you CANNOT do is buy a supercool smartphone for the (subsidized) price of $99.99 - you have to buy at list.
It's not that Americans are being shafted because they can't get out of contracts they agreed to, but that we're addicted to having the latest phone and paying little for it.
Puh-lease. It's as simple as adding a line item in the upcoming stimulus plan. A few billion extra dollars isn't going to break the bank. And it will create jobs - high paying, stable jobs. And it will also help revive our education system.
And, I'll get a pony in the bargain.
"So Bill Clinton was a traitor, but not the guys who outed a CIA agent? I hate to point it out but your bias is showing. How embarrassing."
You mean Richard Armitage? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage_(politician)#Role_in_Plame_affair
I especially like this part:
So, the guy who actually committed the crime was given a total pass, but they convicted Libby for "obstructing" a bogus investigation?
I won't excuse all or even most of the things the administration did, but the Plame affair isn't a very sturdy stick to beat them with.
Hmmm, sore spot?
"Scrimp on my taxes?" Considering that it was a supreme court justice that said that no one is obligated to pay more than the law requires, are you accusing the entire nation of cheating?
"never thank the government?" #1, the "government" is an idea, an abstraction. You want me to say "Thank You" to a piece of paper? #2, those public servants are MY employees. As I help pay their salary, they are already receiving monetary compensation for doing their job. If an employee does an exemplary job, then they receive my "thanks", and a case of beer at Christmas.
"then have the gall to tar all public servents - people who spend their best years serving YOU - with the same, tired accusations?" As stated above, public servants are not some altruistic volunteer force; they are PAID to do their jobs and they receive excellent benefits packages. However, unlike other employees, they effectively cannot be fired, and their raises are locked in, so there is zero incentive to do the job well. In this environment, even a conscientious employee gets dragged down. So I am supposed to be grateful to my employees who are overpaid, undermotivated, and accountable to no one?
"Tell me, how to you square the 'public service = cushy' claim with the 'US = most powerful country' circle?" If I had any idea what this meant I'm sure the point would be just as inane as your others.
"Do you think the infrastructure, social safety net, military, judiciary, etc., all just run on automatic?" Of course not (and BTW, the military is NOT comprised of "public servants"). It takes people to run them. You seem to be of the opinion that, just because someone accomplishes a job, no matter how poorly or long, deserves our uncritical praise. I believe that you should perform your duties competently and effectively whether you get a pat on the back or not, and that if you excel you should be rewarded and if you fail there should be consequences.
Being the shining example of DC civil servants is like being the most buoyant turd at the sewage treatment plant - you'll get noticed, but you're still shit.
If you get some, don't waste them - no matter how many times it gets modded "flamebait", our fellow Slashdotters will keep it at +5 Insightful.
And you will get slapped in meta-moderation.
"Real nerds use Intel GMA 900s!"
REAL nerds use ASCII graphics, you poser!