Correct me if I am wrong, but applications can still access unencrypted data; doesn't that mean numerous hacks would still work?
4ndr3w
Scientists have been proven wrong time and time again -- by other scientists
It was a TRS-80 game back in around 1983. Real low res graphics, the monsters were basicall stick figures, or dotted lines when they were invisible. In the middle of the band separating the game window from the control window, there was a little heart, your heart. The worse things got for you, the faster it would beat. There was something about that heart that got you so into the emotion of fighting a blob. And the monsters all had their signature sounds.
Anyone know of an emulator that would allow you to play this game on a PC?
Since you did not capitalize "jews" in one of your paragraphs, clearly you are an anti-semite!
4ndr3w
'A smart machine will first consider which is more worth its while: to perform the given task or, instead, to figure some way out of it... And therefore we have the malingerants, fudgerators, and drudge-dodgers, not to mention the special phenomenon of simulimbecility or mimicretinism.''
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--Stanislaw Lem
Back when the metric switch was being pushed during the Carter administration, there was a SNL skit about the decaday. 100 hours, each about 15 mins long, and 100 "minutes" in an hour. Hence the following exchange:
"Honey, I'm starved. When's dinner"
"Two hours"
"Great!"
There was also a pitch for a "decbet" of 10 letters instead of the current confusing 26. One big advantage was "LMNO" would have been one letter, as in "honey, would you please lmnopen the door?"
One thing you will avoid by running apache 2 on win32 is the cancerous penetration of the OS by IIS. If anything, ANYTHING at all is "wrong" with your IIS install, patches installed in the wrong order, your server is doomed, at least to a painful reinstall -- possibly of the whole OS. Most aggravating is the integration of the browser and the webserver -- heaven forbid a browser patch goes awry. At that point you might as well resign and become a mountain man. It is as if MS feels they will solve the problem of discrimination by integrating software. Anyone who has run a lot of IIS boxen has no doubt seen this. IMHO, Apache2 in Win32 will be under serious FUD by MS, but quick. It's just too easy compared to IIS to administer. In time I hope we will see IIS eclipsed by Apache 2.
In this case I have to agree with gatkinso and disagree with Anonymous Coward. College is an amazing place and a great time of your life. This situation is comparable to deciding having children is likely to cost too much, damn the whole parenthood thing, it's all about money. You'll meet people and do things in college you would not otherwise be exposed to. Metaphorically, a degree DOES open doors. Being on your second IT job will NOT give you the pleasure and benefit in life of college. Trust me, I'm on my third and I'd rather be in college.
I worked in an IT dept. that implemented just such a policy. I was not in charge of the IT group at the time. I though the procedures were going overboard but what could I really do? We took admin, root on all unix boxes, and console to everything away. It made developers crazy, having to hunt us down to get to the console of NT machines, and having to ask us to install desktop apps.
The best way to deal with this is to whittle the policy away by small steps. Try to get a development subnet with relaxed security rules. With *nix boxes, ask for sudo...to the shells. This way you can just sudo -s and have rootly powers back. There's a decent chance you will be allowed to work on unix machines as long as only the IT dept has root. This is a bit of a climb-down from their crazy horse for the IT folks, who are giving you what you need without specifically subverting policy. As for your Windows boxes, I can't imagine functioning without admin. Try getting a committment from the vendors whose software you use for development that it is OK to install packages for testing. Then presentt his information to the IT department. This way the IT department is spared the responsibility of dealing with each and every install you need done. Maybe designate a few people in the dev group who will have the rights to do this.
First and foremost, kill them with kindness. One thing you don't want is a pissing contest with a sysadmin--you'll lose 90% of those on sysadmin arrogance alone;-P I think enforcing SOE on developers is like enforcing air-breathing on fish. When I finally controlled IT policy, I basically tore SOE up for developers. Now all those other people, that was a different story...muhahahaha
Andrew
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Mars gets to YOUR ass!
Perosnally, I'm a believer in the artistocratic art of doing absolutely nothing, and in the future I hope to be in a position to do even less.
Correct me if I am wrong, but applications can still access unencrypted data; doesn't that mean numerous hacks would still work? 4ndr3w Scientists have been proven wrong time and time again -- by other scientists
Then we'll start on IPv6.
It was a TRS-80 game back in around 1983. Real low res graphics, the monsters were basicall stick figures, or dotted lines when they were invisible. In the middle of the band separating the game window from the control window, there was a little heart, your heart. The worse things got for you, the faster it would beat. There was something about that heart that got you so into the emotion of fighting a blob. And the monsters all had their signature sounds. Anyone know of an emulator that would allow you to play this game on a PC?
These guys REALLY need girlfriends!
Since you did not capitalize "jews" in one of your paragraphs, clearly you are an anti-semite! 4ndr3w 'A smart machine will first consider which is more worth its while: to perform the given task or, instead, to figure some way out of it... And therefore we have the malingerants, fudgerators, and drudge-dodgers, not to mention the special phenomenon of simulimbecility or mimicretinism.'' __________________________________________________ ____
--Stanislaw Lem
Back when the metric switch was being pushed during the Carter administration, there was a SNL skit about the decaday. 100 hours, each about 15 mins long, and 100 "minutes" in an hour. Hence the following exchange:
"Honey, I'm starved. When's dinner"
"Two hours"
"Great!"
There was also a pitch for a "decbet" of 10 letters instead of the current confusing 26. One big advantage was "LMNO" would have been one letter, as in "honey, would you please lmnopen the door?"
One thing you will avoid by running apache 2 on win32 is the cancerous penetration of the OS by IIS. If anything, ANYTHING at all is "wrong" with your IIS install, patches installed in the wrong order, your server is doomed, at least to a painful reinstall -- possibly of the whole OS. Most aggravating is the integration of the browser and the webserver -- heaven forbid a browser patch goes awry. At that point you might as well resign and become a mountain man. It is as if MS feels they will solve the problem of discrimination by integrating software. Anyone who has run a lot of IIS boxen has no doubt seen this. IMHO, Apache2 in Win32 will be under serious FUD by MS, but quick. It's just too easy compared to IIS to administer. In time I hope we will see IIS eclipsed by Apache 2.
In this case I have to agree with gatkinso and disagree with Anonymous Coward. College is an amazing place and a great time of your life. This situation is comparable to deciding having children is likely to cost too much, damn the whole parenthood thing, it's all about money. You'll meet people and do things in college you would not otherwise be exposed to. Metaphorically, a degree DOES open doors. Being on your second IT job will NOT give you the pleasure and benefit in life of college. Trust me, I'm on my third and I'd rather be in college.
I worked in an IT dept. that implemented just such a policy. I was not in charge of the IT group at the time. I though the procedures were going overboard but what could I really do? We took admin, root on all unix boxes, and console to everything away. It made developers crazy, having to hunt us down to get to the console of NT machines, and having to ask us to install desktop apps. The best way to deal with this is to whittle the policy away by small steps. Try to get a development subnet with relaxed security rules. With *nix boxes, ask for sudo...to the shells. This way you can just sudo -s and have rootly powers back. There's a decent chance you will be allowed to work on unix machines as long as only the IT dept has root. This is a bit of a climb-down from their crazy horse for the IT folks, who are giving you what you need without specifically subverting policy. As for your Windows boxes, I can't imagine functioning without admin. Try getting a committment from the vendors whose software you use for development that it is OK to install packages for testing. Then presentt his information to the IT department. This way the IT department is spared the responsibility of dealing with each and every install you need done. Maybe designate a few people in the dev group who will have the rights to do this. First and foremost, kill them with kindness. One thing you don't want is a pissing contest with a sysadmin--you'll lose 90% of those on sysadmin arrogance alone ;-P I think enforcing SOE on developers is like enforcing air-breathing on fish. When I finally controlled IT policy, I basically tore SOE up for developers. Now all those other people, that was a different story...muhahahaha
Andrew