"Loophole? That is such a funny choice of words for rationalizing the switch away from the GPL. Tell me they didn't know when they released the initial versions of their code under the GPL that other folks could and would "repackage" it (I suppose that means, in one case, including it with any number of distros)."
You are an idiot.
The loophole is that binary redistributions of GPL'd software via a black-box hardware component (or use of said software via a network interface) does not require compliance with the GPL's source-code redistribution requirement. Not the fact that the software can be repackaged by someone (which under any circumstances other than the aforementioned, you cannot do without distributing the source code as well).
So what you're saying is....
Every morning Bob steals my newspaper. This angers me, so, instead of asking the paper-boy to throw my paper over my fence where Bob can't get it, I'll just go out, extra early, every morning, and take my paper to the local kinko's and run off a copy of it, and give it to bob; as long as he reads the front page, and tells me what it says.
Fuck Bob, he doesn't deserve my partnership, he's a theif.
That's exactly right. My business's goals include promoting open source technology, helping companies save money, preventing vendor lock-in, and showing people that cheap (or free) doesn't always mean lower quality. If I were in it soley for the money, I'd be a windows consultant trying to convince people to use low-quality lock-in abundant technologies like.NET, and on top of charging them lots of cash for the 'advice' I'd be able to collect even more when the technology breaks (and we all know it will) or doesn't fit their needs.
The problem is that they don't patch it later. A full year after MM Studio MX came out (9/03), MM had not released ANY patches or fixes to their apalling excuse for Production software (this shit was barely beta). And then they have the balls to release a new verion of the software and charge you $500 for an upgrade. And from what I hear, its no better.... The world's going to hell. I'm glad I'm getting out of the web-media business.
Can we please stop using the term "viral" to refer to software liscenses? This is a term coined by Microsoft, and using it only perpetuates their influence on the market.
As far as why more websites don't ask for them, I know for a fact that if you do collect the CSC (card security code) number, and your server side code passes it to the CC processing company's server, even if the number is wrong the transaction will still be allowed. I know of at least one of the big 5 credit card processing companies that this is true for. I will not name them here. But you can probably guess who it is.
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You're an asshole.
"Loophole? That is such a funny choice of words for rationalizing the switch away from the GPL. Tell me they didn't know when they released the initial versions of their code under the GPL that other folks could and would "repackage" it (I suppose that means, in one case, including it with any number of distros)."
You are an idiot.
The loophole is that binary redistributions of GPL'd software via a black-box hardware component (or use of said software via a network interface) does not require compliance with the GPL's source-code redistribution requirement. Not the fact that the software can be repackaged by someone (which under any circumstances other than the aforementioned, you cannot do without distributing the source code as well).
So what you're saying is ....
Every morning Bob steals my newspaper. This angers me, so, instead of asking the paper-boy to throw my paper over my fence where Bob can't get it, I'll just go out, extra early, every morning, and take my paper to the local kinko's and run off a copy of it, and give it to bob; as long as he reads the front page, and tells me what it says.
Fuck Bob, he doesn't deserve my partnership, he's a theif.
yeah taco, keep those great stories coming.
Finally fixed it at (14:45 GMT)
I think this was a masterful plan to get a whole bunch of IP addresses of Linux users so that they know who to sue next.
you mod me down, but you know its true.
That's exactly right. My business's goals include promoting open source technology, helping companies save money, preventing vendor lock-in, and showing people that cheap (or free) doesn't always mean lower quality. If I were in it soley for the money, I'd be a windows consultant trying to convince people to use low-quality lock-in abundant technologies like .NET, and on top of charging them lots of cash for the 'advice' I'd be able to collect even more when the technology breaks (and we all know it will) or doesn't fit their needs.
Where exactly do you see translucent windows ?
if it comes from Microsoft - and must be crap and it must be evil
Yep, you've pretty much got it.
...blame the whole newspaper chain because of one stupid employee.
One employee? Last time I checked John Markoff worked for the New York Times as well.
...When Microsoft became the "RedHat" of the Windows world.
He's a scumbag, he should get whatever they give him, but the 'theft' of communication should not be the issue here.
Fuck, I'm on someone else's wireless network right now.
The problem is that they don't patch it later. A full year after MM Studio MX came out (9/03), MM had not released ANY patches or fixes to their apalling excuse for Production software (this shit was barely beta). And then they have the balls to release a new verion of the software and charge you $500 for an upgrade. And from what I hear, its no better. ... The world's going to hell. I'm glad I'm getting out of the web-media business.
Yeah, so it'll be just like running Flash MX on Mac OS X (or maybe better) :-D
That's fucking awesome! The ISC rocks. Verisign has no right to abuse their position like that. Way to go for people fighting the power!
Can we please stop using the term "viral" to refer to software liscenses? This is a term coined by Microsoft, and using it only perpetuates their influence on the market.
What a sin... and I really enjoed shopping at Office Depot. Guess its time to find a new stationary store.
As far as why more websites don't ask for them, I know for a fact that if you do collect the CSC (card security code) number, and your server side code passes it to the CC processing company's server, even if the number is wrong the transaction will still be allowed. I know of at least one of the big 5 credit card processing companies that this is true for. I will not name them here. But you can probably guess who it is.
What am I waiting for?... My Slackware box to break.