Re:Most needed feature for newbies......
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PHP 4.3.0 Released
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Well this is certainly a helpful reply:
Original Post: I read the Java and PHP docs, and java is better documented. You: No, Javadoc sucks, go read the PHP docs. And java sucks too!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but PHP doesn't seem to have a "self documenting" framework, a la Javadoc or even Perl's POD?
Re:consider running an opcode cache
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PHP 4.3.0 Released
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Just compiling PHP scripts on every page hit.
Ok, lets see, in the same thread there is a post about PHP not having an XML parser of any kind (the author mentions having to use regexp, insane as that sounds), I am assuming that means there is no HTML parser (or an equivalent of HTML::TreeBuilder at that) either.
Call this "informative-flame" bait, but I am trying to figure out why people get upset when PHP isn't refered to as the greatest thing of all time. I personally haven't used it for a couple of years, so I don't know about many of these features.
What does PHP use in terms of a browser agent (a la LWP)? Is there really no support simple filebased db persistence? (by which I mean something along the lines of tieing a hash to BerkleyDB). How well does it hook into the other stages of the Apache request handling pipeline?
Oh and something I'm curious about (too lazy to look it up, I guess) what sort of exception handling does PHP have (ie it's equivalent of 'try {} catch {} finally {}')?
What sort of logging modules are available? (log4PHP?) I'd also be curious to know about how PHP's templating systems measure up, from someone who's had experience with this sort of thing...
Anyway, this is a troll, but I am curious about the answers to those.
Excellent troll all around, well done. I especially like the points about database access and data structures.
Of course you forgot to mention PHP's new command line mode which makes it more versatile than perl. The vast resources available from CPHPAN, and more specific projects, such as BioPHP. And PHP's tighter integration with client side DHTML technologies such as JavaScript, CSS, DOM and XML which allow you to do DHTML natively in PHP.
Honestly though, health benefits to not eating turkey? Red meat I can understand (which probably goes something like ' moderate > vegetarian > average '), but poultry?
Re:"artificial turkey for the vegetarians"
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Christmas in 2050
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Good heavens, do you really think most vegetarians WANT artificial turkey?
Ok, how do you explain tofurky then, eh?:)
Seriously though, seems there is a number of vegetarians who are only vegetarians because they don't believe that we should kill animals for food (obviously, you are not one of them), seems they would like the idea... or some of them, at least.
It may "seem like" it to you, but you are WRONG. The aggregation point for DSL is the DSLAM, which is at your local telco wiring cetner. The closest aggregation point for cable is often much smaller. Then it is fed to another shared network about the size of the subscriber base that a DSLAM would service. It doesn't matter where it's happening. It's still happening.
Ok, you win. From now on I will start hating my DSL connection and bitching about how slow and inconsistent it is:)
Oh yeah....marketing drive that they've bought hook, line, and sinker.
Didn't have to buy any marketing, I don't get cable where I live, I had to get DSL. Hell, I wanted cable when I signed up.
The point is, who cares where the sharing takes place. It's the same damn thing in the end.
Not necessarily, seems cable would be more sensitive to what other people in your immediate surroundings are doing, whereas with DSL the effect is more spread out over all the subscribers.
But sure, if you want I'll change to bragging about having a provider that doesn't oversubscribe:) All I know is that I do get that 190KB down and (more importantly) the 48KB up.
Well, considering points 1, 2 and 3 I suppose it would be easier for you to buy a PC and install linux. However, I have this sneaking suspicion that the world does not revolve around you. I could be wrong, of course.
Space requirements for "gene info" are either modest or laughable (depending on your definition of "gene info"), by todays "enterprise" standards
As an example: GenBank contains basically all published sequences, and the whole thing is only about 80GB (if memory serves), but the pure sequence in it would only take up slightly more than 5GB (assuming a binary format, ie two bits per base).
Really? I can't remember the last time I had Outlook or Word (2000 and XP) actually crash, and I use 'em both every day. The 2000 line of products is a huge leap over the 95 line (which I will agree were pretty crap).
I was originally going to disagree with the parent, but this is more to the point. I've been using 2000 since it came out in one form or another (at home at first, now only at work), and while I am not a huge fan, it's stable enough. It does crash, but reasonably rarely (disgregarding shoddy 3D games, which you can't really blame the OS for), in any case no more often than KDE and X.
XP is another story all together. It was preinstalled on a laptop I bought recently, and I've had nothing but problems with it. Crashed several times in the month I've had it (might be an improvement for 9X users, I guess...), their wireless config utility makes wireless networking damn near unusable, and it has taken being patronizing to the levels of a fine art form... Office XP is nice though.
Anyway, it's gone now and replaced with 2K. Incidentally, the laptop isn't for myself, I personally am getting a PowerBook:)
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Original Post: I read the Java and PHP docs, and java is better documented.
You: No, Javadoc sucks, go read the PHP docs. And java sucks too!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but PHP doesn't seem to have a "self documenting" framework, a la Javadoc or even Perl's POD?
Ok, lets see, in the same thread there is a post about PHP not having an XML parser of any kind (the author mentions having to use regexp, insane as that sounds), I am assuming that means there is no HTML parser (or an equivalent of HTML::TreeBuilder at that) either.
Call this "informative-flame" bait, but I am trying to figure out why people get upset when PHP isn't refered to as the greatest thing of all time. I personally haven't used it for a couple of years, so I don't know about many of these features.
What does PHP use in terms of a browser agent (a la LWP)? Is there really no support simple filebased db persistence? (by which I mean something along the lines of tieing a hash to BerkleyDB). How well does it hook into the other stages of the Apache request handling pipeline?
Oh and something I'm curious about (too lazy to look it up, I guess) what sort of exception handling does PHP have (ie it's equivalent of 'try {} catch {} finally {}')?
What sort of logging modules are available? (log4PHP?) I'd also be curious to know about how PHP's templating systems measure up, from someone who's had experience with this sort of thing...
Anyway, this is a troll, but I am curious about the answers to those.
Of course you forgot to mention PHP's new command line mode which makes it more versatile than perl. The vast resources available from CPHPAN, and more specific projects, such as BioPHP. And PHP's tighter integration with client side DHTML technologies such as JavaScript, CSS, DOM and XML which allow you to do DHTML natively in PHP.
I haven't used PHP much in some time, but I remember it using GD years ago - what exactly was added in that regard?
I don't know, something's just creepy about that sentence... very Matrix-like, I guess... :)
good thing I am not... err... for another two weeks.
dual cpus in a laptop == somewhat faster in some applications
yeah, they will take the world by storm
Um, yeah... "literature".
Honestly though, health benefits to not eating turkey? Red meat I can understand (which probably goes something like ' moderate > vegetarian > average '), but poultry?
Ok, how do you explain tofurky then, eh? :)
Seriously though, seems there is a number of vegetarians who are only vegetarians because they don't believe that we should kill animals for food (obviously, you are not one of them), seems they would like the idea... or some of them, at least.
Out of curiosity - what advanced alien civilization are you part of? That you know so much about us humans which we don't.
Ok, you win. From now on I will start hating my DSL connection and bitching about how slow and inconsistent it is :)
Didn't have to buy any marketing, I don't get cable where I live, I had to get DSL. Hell, I wanted cable when I signed up.
The point is, who cares where the sharing takes place. It's the same damn thing in the end.
Not necessarily, seems cable would be more sensitive to what other people in your immediate surroundings are doing, whereas with DSL the effect is more spread out over all the subscribers.
But sure, if you want I'll change to bragging about having a provider that doesn't oversubscribe :) All I know is that I do get that 190KB down and (more importantly) the 48KB up.
On the other hand, some of us have 1.5Mbit DSL which isn't shared (though capped up at 384)... mmmm.. DSL...
If there was another 'n' in there I'd think you were talking about "The Year of 6.023 x 10^23"
Well, considering points 1, 2 and 3 I suppose it would be easier for you to buy a PC and install linux. However, I have this sneaking suspicion that the world does not revolve around you. I could be wrong, of course.
Space requirements for "gene info" are either modest or laughable (depending on your definition of "gene info"), by todays "enterprise" standards
As an example: GenBank contains basically all published sequences, and the whole thing is only about 80GB (if memory serves), but the pure sequence in it would only take up slightly more than 5GB (assuming a binary format, ie two bits per base).
Here's their stats page.
"CDs"? "buying"?
tera -> peta -> exa -> zetta -> yotta
Getting confused by all the buttons? ;)
Oh come on, everyone knows it stands for 'Valenti'.
LoC's, in their turn, were obsoleted by the "Human Genomes"
kernel.org
kazaa lite
sourceforge
edonkey
video capture
have fun filling up that hard drive...
oh, and you'll probably need on of these soon
I was originally going to disagree with the parent, but this is more to the point. I've been using 2000 since it came out in one form or another (at home at first, now only at work), and while I am not a huge fan, it's stable enough. It does crash, but reasonably rarely (disgregarding shoddy 3D games, which you can't really blame the OS for), in any case no more often than KDE and X.
XP is another story all together. It was preinstalled on a laptop I bought recently, and I've had nothing but problems with it. Crashed several times in the month I've had it (might be an improvement for 9X users, I guess...), their wireless config utility makes wireless networking damn near unusable, and it has taken being patronizing to the levels of a fine art form... Office XP is nice though.
Anyway, it's gone now and replaced with 2K. Incidentally, the laptop isn't for myself, I personally am getting a PowerBook :)
Yeah, cause those scooters are really... ah screwit, you meant 'segue', ok?