Of course. It only makes sense, considering the fact that this government is controlled, owned, and manipulated by corporations just like microsoft.
A bunch of people will think I'm trying to be flaimbait, and yes, that is frightening.
NOTE: Matter within { + braces and plus signs + } in an amended section is new. Matter within { - braces and minus signs - } is existing law to be omitted. New sections are within
{ + braces and plus signs + }.
LC 2937
House Bill 2892
Sponsored by Representative BARNHART (at the request of Ken
Barber)
SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's brief statement of the essential features of the measure as introduced.
Requires state government to consider using open source software when acquiring new software. Sets other requirements for acquiring software.
A BILL FOR AN ACT Relating to software acquisitions by state government.
(1) The Legislative Assembly finds that:
(a) The cost of obtaining software for the state's computer systems has become a significant expense to the state;
(b) The personnel costs of maintaining the software on the state's computers has also become a significant expense to the state;
(c) It is necessary to the functioning of the state that computer data owned by the state be permanently available to the state throughout its useful life;
(d) To guarantee the succession and permanence of public data, it is necessary that the state's accessibility to that data be independent of the goodwill of the state's computer system suppliers and the monopoly conditions imposed by these suppliers;
(e) It is in the public interest to ensure interoperability of computer systems through the use of software and products that promote open, platform-neutral standards;
(f) It is also in the public interest that the state be free, to the greatest extent possible, of restrictions imposed by parties outside the state's control on how, and for how long, the state may use the software it has acquired; and
(g) It is not in the public interest and it is a violation of the fundamental right to privacy for the state to use software that, in addition to its stated function, also transmits data to, or allows control and modification of its systems by, parties outside of the state's control.
(2) The Legislative Assembly further finds that:
(a) The acquisition and widespread deployment of open source software can significantly reduce the state's costs of obtaining and maintaining software;
(b) Open source software guarantees that its encoding of data is not tied to a single provider;
(c) Open source software ensures interoperability through adherence to open, platform-neutral standards;
(d) Open source software contains no restrictions on how, or for how long, it may be used; and
(e) Since open source software fully discloses its internal operations, it can be audited, at any time and by anyone of the state's choosing, for internal functions that are contrary to the public's interests and rights.
(3) Therefore, it is in the public interest that the State of Oregon consider using open source software in its public computing functions. Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. { + (1) As used in this section:
(a) 'Open source software' means software that guarantees the user, without further cost:
(A) Unrestricted use of the software for any purpose;
(B) Unrestricted access to the respective source code;
(C) Exhaustive inspection of the working mechanisms of the software;
(D) Use of the internal mechanisms and arbitrary portions of the software, to adapt them to the needs of the user;
(E) Freedom to make and distribute copies of the software; and
(F) Modification of the software an
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"Sorry, but Microsoft ain't that bad"
That would be where we disagree. What I am curious about is what you are comparing them to when you say "that bad".
"...but they just don't matter that much..."
Okay. I disagree with that, too, and I think the future will disagree as well. I've been known to be wrong, though. Maybe Microsoft will become a corporation for the people! Hurray!
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Screw microsoft. Remove your blinders, cattle, and take a look at microsoft the corporation. How can anyone seriously talk about the merits of this company and be fully aware of their tactics? Sometimes you microsoft thugs make me sick. Actually, you ALWAYS make me sick. Go ahead. Defend them. How can you candy coat the sickness that is microsoft? Or do you check your morals at the door when it comes to the latest and greatest gadgets?
Anti-semetic!?! Man, are you full of it. Where did you read this? The people involved in indy are some of the most proactive anti-racist folks around. Blind patriotism. Makes me sad.
The look of the two words "music" & "stealing" in the same sentance, especially the sentance used above, is such a departure from the concept I have of art. Not that I think Moby should starve. Of course, there are hard working artists nearly starving in my own city (not that Mr. Moby doesn't work hard!). He is a fine musician. To me, the concept of art as property is Orwellian in the finest sense. Mark my words, it will be a key ingredient in the vile pudding we are reducing this world to. Good luck to you!
and lets not forget the fact that most of us have been raised into a society of burger-eating, hollywood-lovin, chris columbus-was-a- god, pathetic excuse for a world. Ever try to find out what goes into actually producing that burger? if you do, you most likely won't eat fast food again. shopping at wal-mart for lindows is just a small piece of the pie. I like you commieoeverlord. you dig anarchism or what?
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Raising awareness concerning important issues might be one method of getting the attention of some of them. Give them a cause, something to make a difference in our world. It gives a purpose and sense of responsibility. I understand, somewhat, the frustration these guys are feeling. Kind of lost in world of neon distraction (thanks tool).
Maybe.
Lets give them some Emma Goldman to read. In html, of course.
Good to know he's going to jail! I mean, now he will reform after spending countless hours locked in a room recieving nothing but negative attention. The reign of chaos he was about to bring upon us was narrowly avoided. He must be one of those terrorists.
*End sarcasm*
This kid is another fine example of the product our society is producing.
WOW! Actually, yes they are! Of course, You obviously find the Catholic church to be some sort of great thing. I find them dispicable hosts of false hope, slavery, and greed.
Thanks!
The business practices of microsoft are vile. Perioid. Dealing with microsoft is contributing to the further destruction of of freedom/values/justice/honor/integrity and that just about sums it up. No one should be that powerfull. And thats my opinion.
Indeed! I couldn't have said it better, except I would have preferred a Cali-Curb Job rather than kicking. Simply, most people don't care unless it directly related to their pathetic, self-centered lives. If it WAS their child, it would be a different story. Not that I agree with this law, but I see the same "You are censoring me!" arguement every time the issue is brought up on the internet. Of course, most of the people responding have never dealt with this issue head on. And no, I am not making excuses for them.
My origainal post, however, states that I do NOT in fact agree with the tactics being implemented in PA. By your definition, do you think the mere attempt to stop the spread of CP is censorship? I myself see a very bold line between combating CP and censorship. Using tactics like blocking web sites, however, I believe to be a sort of 'quick-fix' destined to move beyond the bounderies of CP(bad). The philosophical argument of defining censorship, to be honest, doesn't even matter to me when fighting CP, as long as the methods do not infringe upon the freedoms of others. Do you think, when there is the possibility of hundreds of thousands more kids being abused, that I care for one instant that joe-slashdot-user thinks I am big-brother? I can't care. In fact, the only thought I give them is "WHY THE HELL AREN"T YOU TRYING TO STOP THIS SHIT TOO!?!" You may not believe this, but I am also a very active member of the anti-censorshp, pro-privacy movement. I also master an anti-CP page, houseofthedead.org. The two, in my opinion, mix very easily, and compliment each other nicely. Do I feel like I am censoring folks when I track CP? Hehe. No frickin way:) And to be honest , if I piss I few people off in the process, I can get a kick out of that too:) Your comment, I think, is very valid from a technical break-down-the-terminology standpoint. Again, though, I don't even consider the word 'censor' when trying to stop CP. I think that we MUST consider the moral implecations of it at all times. If we don't, we might just end up with massive amounts of the stuff floating around the net, CP sub-cultures emerging from loosely knit rings, and people arguing over whether or not stopping CP is censorship rather of fighting it. Oh, wait. Thats where we are already. I believe that the kids come first, as much of a pathetic cliche as that may be. I am also willing to go head-t-head with all the arm-chair philosophers and cell-warriors who think what I do is infringing on their rights. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this.
Ya. You got it down, huh?
Your generalization of anyone and everyone involved in attempting to stop CP is curious to me. What experience in this area to justify such a comment? How can you even begin to compare the "anti-drug" crap to anti-CP movements? That seems like an attempt to somehow draw attention away from the fact that CP is a negative aspect to this world. It baffles me. What do you mean exactly by quoting "Child"? What is YOUR solution to the problem, if indeed you believe a problem to be?
Suggetions made by the parent post are not going to change that. We are in agreement there. However, Candyland is but one of many, some of which make money, and thrive off a a customer base. So, in fact, it does make money, regarless of the "context" you put it in.
It is not (as you stated) related to adult porn, it is it's own industry. Thats what sucks
As I said, if you cannot see the difference between getting rid of CP and the definition of censorship, you are a fool:) To me, it's a very definate line.
Umm, you are mistaken in that blanket statement. Poeple DO profit from CP. It IS a moneymaker, unfortunalety, and some people are taking prime advantage of this. I have seen many examples, many from.ru domains. Russian mob, baby. Law enrofcement in Russia has made virtually no attempt to stop the flow. There is a market for the materials (people will pay for it), and not all of the suppliers are in it for the personal collection.
Don't believe me? Spend a few months educating yourself and then re-evaluate. I think you might be shocked.
Simply, because : The majority is too wrapped up in their Suburbans, Basketball games, and they could really give a shit less about anything but themselves.
This, unfortunately, could be the first step on a long stairway of censorship. No, I do not believe that blocking CP sites is censorship (if you think it is, you are indeed a fool), but this may just be an easy stepping stone for authorities to block other questionable materials. How about pushing education, stemming the tide of new materials and more active attempts to bust the actual child pornographers before throwing a blanket over the issue? These brush-it-under-the-rug tactics are so typical of existing government when dealing with this problem. There needs to be a worldwide agreement on the issue, which may never happen. We all need to take control of this problem, stop bitching and actually do something, rather than let government do it their way. Are they really so blind to the sub-culture out there? This is merely a stumbling block in the fight against CP, not a valid solution. Educate yourselves, take action, and fight what we all know to be wrong. Do it before the we are all punished for the actions of some twisted pukes. I encourage you all to take some responsibility.
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Of course. It only makes sense, considering the fact that this government is controlled, owned, and manipulated by corporations just like microsoft. A bunch of people will think I'm trying to be flaimbait, and yes, that is frightening.
Wasting money and getting paid to sculpt bullshit is the idea.
72nd OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--2003 Regular Session
.
NOTE: Matter within { + braces and plus signs + } in an
amended section is new. Matter within { - braces and minus
signs - } is existing law to be omitted. New sections are within
{ + braces and plus signs + }
LC 2937
House Bill 2892
Sponsored by Representative BARNHART (at the request of Ken
Barber)
SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the
measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to
consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's
brief statement of the essential features of the measure as
introduced.
Requires state government to consider using open source
software when acquiring new software. Sets other requirements for
acquiring software.
A BILL FOR AN ACT
Relating to software acquisitions by state government.
(1) The Legislative Assembly finds that:
(a) The cost of obtaining software for the state's computer
systems has become a significant expense to the state;
(b) The personnel costs of maintaining the software on the
state's computers has also become a significant expense to the
state;
(c) It is necessary to the functioning of the state that
computer data owned by the state be permanently available to the
state throughout its useful life;
(d) To guarantee the succession and permanence of public data,
it is necessary that the state's accessibility to that data be
independent of the goodwill of the state's computer system
suppliers and the monopoly conditions imposed by these suppliers;
(e) It is in the public interest to ensure interoperability of
computer systems through the use of software and products that
promote open, platform-neutral standards;
(f) It is also in the public interest that the state be free,
to the greatest extent possible, of restrictions imposed by
parties outside the state's control on how, and for how long, the
state may use the software it has acquired; and
(g) It is not in the public interest and it is a violation of
the fundamental right to privacy for the state to use software
that, in addition to its stated function, also transmits data to,
or allows control and modification of its systems by, parties
outside of the state's control.
(2) The Legislative Assembly further finds that:
(a) The acquisition and widespread deployment of open source
software can significantly reduce the state's costs of obtaining
and maintaining software;
(b) Open source software guarantees that its encoding of data
is not tied to a single provider;
(c) Open source software ensures interoperability through
adherence to open, platform-neutral standards;
(d) Open source software contains no restrictions on how, or
for how long, it may be used; and
(e) Since open source software fully discloses its internal
operations, it can be audited, at any time and by anyone of the
state's choosing, for internal functions that are contrary to the
public's interests and rights.
(3) Therefore, it is in the public interest that the State of
Oregon consider using open source software in its public
computing functions.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. { + (1) As used in this section:
(a) 'Open source software' means software that guarantees the
user, without further cost:
(A) Unrestricted use of the software for any purpose;
(B) Unrestricted access to the respective source code;
(C) Exhaustive inspection of the working mechanisms of the
software;
(D) Use of the internal mechanisms and arbitrary portions of
the software, to adapt them to the needs of the user;
(E) Freedom to make and distribute copies of the software; and
(F) Modification of the software an
I'm down with this as well.
"Sorry, but Microsoft ain't that bad"
That would be where we disagree. What I am curious about is what you are comparing them to when you say "that bad".
"...but they just don't matter that much..."
Okay. I disagree with that, too, and I think the future will disagree as well. I've been known to be wrong, though. Maybe Microsoft will become a corporation for the people! Hurray!
Screw microsoft. Remove your blinders, cattle, and take a look at microsoft the corporation. How can anyone seriously talk about the merits of this company and be fully aware of their tactics?
Sometimes you microsoft thugs make me sick. Actually, you ALWAYS make me sick.
Go ahead. Defend them. How can you candy coat the sickness that is microsoft?
Or do you check your morals at the door when it comes to the latest and greatest gadgets?
Anti-semetic!?! Man, are you full of it. Where did you read this? The people involved in indy are some of the most proactive anti-racist folks around.
Blind patriotism. Makes me sad.
The look of the two words "music" & "stealing" in the same sentance, especially the sentance used above, is such a departure from the concept I have of art. Not that I think Moby should starve. Of course, there are hard working artists nearly starving in my own city (not that Mr. Moby doesn't work hard!). He is a fine musician. To me, the concept of art as property is Orwellian in the finest sense. Mark my words, it will be a key ingredient in the vile pudding we are reducing this world to.
Good luck to you!
and lets not forget the fact that most of us have been raised into a society of burger-eating, hollywood-lovin, chris columbus-was-a- god, pathetic excuse for a world. Ever try to find out what goes into actually producing that burger? if you do, you most likely won't eat fast food again.
shopping at wal-mart for lindows is just a small piece of the pie.
I like you commieoeverlord. you dig anarchism or what?
Raising awareness concerning important issues might be one method of getting the attention of some of them. Give them a cause, something to make a difference in our world. It gives a purpose and sense of responsibility. I understand, somewhat, the frustration these guys are feeling. Kind of lost in world of neon distraction (thanks tool). Maybe. Lets give them some Emma Goldman to read. In html, of course.
Good to know he's going to jail! I mean, now he will reform after spending countless hours locked in a room recieving nothing but negative attention. The reign of chaos he was about to bring upon us was narrowly avoided. He must be one of those terrorists. *End sarcasm* This kid is another fine example of the product our society is producing.
you are breaking the first rule
WOW! Actually, yes they are! Of course, You obviously find the Catholic church to be some sort of great thing. I find them dispicable hosts of false hope, slavery, and greed. Thanks!
Actually, big and rich DOES equal evil.
Conan wouldn't be afraid
The business practices of microsoft are vile. Perioid. Dealing with microsoft is contributing to the further destruction of of freedom/values/justice/honor/integrity and that just about sums it up.
No one should be that powerfull.
And thats my opinion.
Indeed! I couldn't have said it better, except I would have preferred a Cali-Curb Job rather than kicking. Simply, most people don't care unless it directly related to their pathetic, self-centered lives. If it WAS their child, it would be a different story. Not that I agree with this law, but I see the same "You are censoring me!" arguement every time the issue is brought up on the internet. Of course, most of the people responding have never dealt with this issue head on. And no, I am not making excuses for them.
My origainal post, however, states that I do NOT in fact agree with the tactics being implemented in PA. By your definition, do you think the mere attempt to stop the spread of CP is censorship? I myself see a very bold line between combating CP and censorship. Using tactics like blocking web sites, however, I believe to be a sort of 'quick-fix' destined to move beyond the bounderies of CP(bad). The philosophical argument of defining censorship, to be honest, doesn't even matter to me when fighting CP, as long as the methods do not infringe upon the freedoms of others. Do you think, when there is the possibility of hundreds of thousands more kids being abused, that I care for one instant that joe-slashdot-user thinks I am big-brother? I can't care. In fact, the only thought I give them is "WHY THE HELL AREN"T YOU TRYING TO STOP THIS SHIT TOO!?!"
You may not believe this, but I am also a very active member of the anti-censorshp, pro-privacy movement. I also master an anti-CP page, houseofthedead.org. The two, in my opinion, mix very easily, and compliment each other nicely. Do I feel like I am censoring folks when I track CP? Hehe. No frickin way:) And to be honest , if I piss I few people off in the process, I can get a kick out of that too:)
Your comment, I think, is very valid from a technical break-down-the-terminology standpoint. Again, though, I don't even consider the word 'censor' when trying to stop CP. I think that we MUST consider the moral implecations of it at all times. If we don't, we might just end up with massive amounts of the stuff floating around the net, CP sub-cultures emerging from loosely knit rings, and people arguing over whether or not stopping CP is censorship rather of fighting it. Oh, wait. Thats where we are already. I believe that the kids come first, as much of a pathetic cliche as that may be. I am also willing to go head-t-head with all the arm-chair philosophers and cell-warriors who think what I do is infringing on their rights.
Thanks for taking the time to discuss this.
Ya. You got it down, huh? Your generalization of anyone and everyone involved in attempting to stop CP is curious to me. What experience in this area to justify such a comment? How can you even begin to compare the "anti-drug" crap to anti-CP movements? That seems like an attempt to somehow draw attention away from the fact that CP is a negative aspect to this world. It baffles me. What do you mean exactly by quoting "Child"? What is YOUR solution to the problem, if indeed you believe a problem to be?
Suggetions made by the parent post are not going to change that. We are in agreement there. However, Candyland is but one of many, some of which make money, and thrive off a a customer base. So, in fact, it does make money, regarless of the "context" you put it in. It is not (as you stated) related to adult porn, it is it's own industry. Thats what sucks
As I said, if you cannot see the difference between getting rid of CP and the definition of censorship, you are a fool:) To me, it's a very definate line.
Umm, you are mistaken in that blanket statement. Poeple DO profit from CP. It IS a moneymaker, unfortunalety, and some people are taking prime advantage of this. I have seen many examples, many from .ru domains. Russian mob, baby. Law enrofcement in Russia has made virtually no attempt to stop the flow. There is a market for the materials (people will pay for it), and not all of the suppliers are in it for the personal collection.
Don't believe me? Spend a few months educating yourself and then re-evaluate. I think you might be shocked.
Simply, because : The majority is too wrapped up in their Suburbans, Basketball games, and they could really give a shit less about anything but themselves.
This, unfortunately, could be the first step on a long stairway of censorship. No, I do not believe that blocking CP sites is censorship (if you think it is, you are indeed a fool), but this may just be an easy stepping stone for authorities to block other questionable materials. How about pushing education, stemming the tide of new materials and more active attempts to bust the actual child pornographers before throwing a blanket over the issue? These brush-it-under-the-rug tactics are so typical of existing government when dealing with this problem. There needs to be a worldwide agreement on the issue, which may never happen. We all need to take control of this problem, stop bitching and actually do something, rather than let government do it their way. Are they really so blind to the sub-culture out there? This is merely a stumbling block in the fight against CP, not a valid solution. Educate yourselves, take action, and fight what we all know to be wrong. Do it before the we are all punished for the actions of some twisted pukes. I encourage you all to take some responsibility.