Linux is a really great kernel. Gnome, KDE, etc are really ugly, poorly integrated windows managers.
The best applications available for Linux are servers that run on top of the kernel. They are without a doubt world class, best of breed, rock solid servers. The best applications for Gnome, KDE, etc are p2p clients, decoders and cd/dvd rippers. They are without a doubt world class, best of breed, rock solid p2p clients, decoders and cd/dvd rippers. Everything else is a cheap knockoff of some commercial app.
The Linux kernel continues to adopt 21st century technology. Gnome, KDE, etc are really ugly, poorly integrated windows managers.
The Linux kernel has support of major corporations. Gnome, KDE, etc are anathema to corporations because the best apps are p2p clients, decoders and cd/dvd rippers, among other things.
Linux development is led by Linus Torvalds. The development of Gnome, KDE, etc are led by a commitee, a carrot dangling from a stick and some guy in his mother's basement, repectively.
Linus is from Sveeeden. Gnome, KDE, etc are from Mars, Venus and some poor mother's basement, respectively (or not).
Linux development is focused. Gnome, KDE, etc do a great job of muddying the waters not just for developers but also for the users.
Everybody loves Linux! Everybody can tell you why you shouldn't use Gnome, KDE, etc instead of Gnome, KDE, etc.
Linux is the present and future. Gnome, KDE, etc are the reason why desktop Linux is not present.
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Call me a troll if it makes you feel better, but the truth hurts sometimes. It's not the Gnome, KDE, etc developers who are to blame, but the development model which doesn't provide focus and a market system (if you can call it that) that doesn't pick a winner.
The reason he is getting packets from these networks could be because these networks are under attack, not the other way around. Surely someone, somewhere is dossing Haliburton and DoD servers and they are probably using phony return addresses. Maybe they list their targets and spoofed addresses and generate an attack for each or maybe they're running mulitple scripts and their random IP generator isn't the first part.
There were some studies done about the amount of collateral traffic generated by dos attacks and it turns out to be quite a bit.
The interwebs were built on a foundation of trust, which is a goodness for everyone.
And the best way to maximize profits is to give the consumer what they want. Companies that are successful are usually very good at delivering things people want and usually at a price people can afford.
As opposed to the free software movement which, for the most part, holds consumers and everyone else in contempt for not being part of their movement.
I cannot and don't want to understand how someone can call something which brought about a revolution in communication, entertainment and productivity, affecting billions of people in a positive way, immoral. The idea that closed source software is immoral is closer to religion then philosophy. It is also insulting, idiotic and ignores the history of computers. Was it immoral for apple to release the mac and commodore to release the 64, both closed source? When my Dad brought home a tandy craptacular in 1978, was he exposing his 3 sons to immorality because it was also closed source? I just don't equate immorality with the rapid acceptance of PCs into homes around the world. Free software didn't do that, atari, commodore, apple, IBM and, yes, microsoft did that.
This latest rant from RMS sounds almosts exactly like what the Sony execs said when asked about the price of the PS3 before it launched. The sony fanboi comments at the time sound more than a little bit like yours. "You poor dumb ingrates just don't understand and lack the depth to appreciate the accomplishment."
So far not a single dropped email and no missing attachments. The interface is gawd awful and laggy. I expect lag in an FPS, not web mail. Anywhile, I think this goes in either the user error, FUD or page view whore department, take your pick.
I'll let you know, but it aint looking good for the study. Unless things start failing quick, I don't think this is going to stand up to scrutiny. The interface is a PoS and very slow.
There were already similar powers for terrorist organizations. This just adds organizations that are attacking Iraq, as opposed to US forces or interests.
The government, any government, has the right to search and seize assets at the border of their country. This has never been in doubt, ever. It doesn't even matter if the property is entering or leaving the country. Even the NSA "wire taps" are legal so long as the call crosses the border of the US. I'll concede the point that a conversation is property and listening or copying the conversation is seizure. As soon as that property crosses our border, the government has the right to search and seize it, if need be.
Get a grip people. You can't lose rights you never had.
I've wondered for a while if MS could pull off forking everything that is "GPLv2" and "GPLv2 or Later". The trick would be to do shadow development, never release a thing, until they have replaced all of the code that is controlled by the FSF and others. Think tool chains, compilers, libraries, etc. Once they have those pieces in place, they can start distributing and keep everything GPLv2, since the guts of the GPLv3 stuff will have all been replaced.
Basically, it is similar to the "we'll rewrite any code covered by patents" defense everyone was so enamored with when MS first started huffing about patents. Which, BTW, is probably not a good idea, as it would basically show that the patent was infringed upon. That would allow MS to sue for the period of infringement, which could be a long time.
"We keep gleefully throwing away our rights in the name of what? Fear? That's bad rationale. Our founding fathers must be turning in their graves."
I'd like to know what rights you think have been thrown away? I think our founding fathers would be amazed that what they started has lasted so long, and longer than any other current government.
The NSA phone taps is probably what you are talking about, so I'm going to troll there. First, I'll concede the point that phone conversations are property and that making a copy of such can be considered seizure of said property. Now that that is out of the way, the NSA phone taps cover phone conversations between this country and another. The property in this case crosses our national border. It is 100% legal for the government to seize and search property at the border without the need for a search warrant. Always has been. So, no rights have been given up or forfeited.
Gee, you really believe the Chinese, Russian, Iranian, North Korean, Saudi, Syrian and Chilean governments would never do this? What about the Indonesian government or the government of any country in Africa? Seriously, put away the crack before the crack puts you away.
I would be more concerned if these companies were making deals to white-list spam bots or something truly nefarious.
It was split into other companies which did pretty good by themselves.
As far as getting locked into MS, I don't see how that can happen. Even during the monopoly hubbub, there were alternatives. Not very good alternatives (pay more for Apple, trust IBM to support a PC product), but alternatives none the less.
"It is important to realize that Microsoft has a position that has never been seen before in history. They control so much of the world's computers."
You must not know a thing about history. Big Blue ring a bell? Anywhile, I don't see how MS controls much of the world's computers, unless maybe you think all computers are PCs. Even then, I don't see how MS controls them. MS doesn't even sell computers for the most part. They are monopoly not because of any nefarious tactics, but because of economy of scale. Apple could have done the same thing, and tried briefly, but they didn't want to give up control of the hardware.
What I have never understood is how MS was declared a monopoly but Intel was not. There were fewer alternatives to Intel at the time and they used similar tactics with the HPs and Dells of the world as far as discounts and exclusivity.
It's okay for someone to steal something copyrighted but it's wrong to steal the code that enables someone to steal something copyrighted if after said theft you plan on selling the code or taking it closed source.
I guess another way to put it is that it is okay to steal as long as it's somebody else stuff.
Glad to have that cleared up. I was getting confused by all this talk of freedom.
Or maybe you should open up a dialogue with the IT staff about why FF can't even be loaded. Going around company policy would not be my first choice. At my company, FF is the only way to use the intranet, go figure. However, I don't think there are any restrictions for others. I am a developer so I get to load anything I want.
Personally, I don't see how anyone is forced to do anything, however the original poster could be in China, North Korea, Russia, South Eastern Europe, the Middle East, South America or Africa, where there is known slavery, in which case the possiblity that the poster is shackled to a windows box is somewhat there, in a hazy, ghost like shimmer along with ID, nessie and Xenu.
Somewhere in the world actual people are forced to dig for diamonds every day, forced to produce crap electronics, forced to sew garments, forced to make sneakers, forced to do sex acts, forced to commit murder. For many of these people, they are forced at an age when they are helpless to resist. I know most of the slashdot crowd has lost all perspective, but please try to think about the world you inhabit and the other people that are in it before posting your sob story about the man keeping you down. You have no idea.
I'm willing to bet that you could afford an I-phone, so there's a second option for you. Third option, go work some where else. Cheer up, things aren't all bad.
As a child of I've Been Moved, I just have to say how nice this is. IBM is a wonderful company with a grand history. Like all successful companies, they have had their bad days. This is a great day for them.
I like Ubuntu fine, but my monitor is all streaky and the nvidia card is still not configured right. It shows up in the mysterious driver sections but the enable checkbox refuses to be checked. It's the second thing everyone says when they see my screen. "What's that? Why's it look all streaky?" is not the best way to start a conversation about linux.
The almost OP points out a bunch of bugs in vista and then someone else says it is hard to install, but the study is about security which is a completely different animal. Still, it's a bit of odd trend when analysts do studies about the first 6 months of this or that. It's almost like there's a fourth type of lie: lies, damn lies, statistics and statistical comparison.
Still, it's fun to see people posting about how the study is flawed.
I wonder how much this guy gets paid to come up with ideas that are really just a slight improvement on some other guys ideas that were inspired by some other guy who read a book that said there were canals on Mars.
Mars is a dry, cold, ugly gravity well. We live on a wet, warm, beautiful gravity well. I think it is a waste of resources, energy and time to escape our gravity well for a less hospitable gravity well. We are better off learning to live in space, which is probably going to be necessary for any Mars terraforming. We should also start cataloging what is already in space, another thing that might be usefull for the greening of Mars. The next step is to turn those resources not at the bottom of a gravity well into self-supporting machinery.
Once we can do those three things, we will probably realize that we don't need a gravity well to be happy. Then, it's wagon train to the stars time, which we can all agree is a good thing.
Seriously folks, what ever happens, the system of US governance will continue. The 2nd branch of government is investigating the 1st branch. If they can't agree on a resolution, the 3rd branch of government has the option to step in and decide the matter.
It actually all seems pretty silly the histrionics that occur on this site. Although to be fair, there doesn't seem to be a better place to discuss things. The idea that emails and phone calls are property seems to be a given. The idea that their being duplicated or recorded is an unreasonable search or seizure, that I'm not so sure about. Where are all the file sharers on this issue? Duplication of something made in or by a studio is not theft, but if you copy my email that's an illegal seizure?
The remedy for illegal search and seizure is dismissal of those things garnered by the same in a court of law. That is, they can't be used against you to prosecute a crime. However, the intention of this program is not to punish or catch offenders, it is simply to stop the crime from occuring.
Even in cases of real property, search and seizure at the borders has always been a recognized right of the government. Until the 3rd branch changes that, this doesn't appear to be anything other then a bunch of people complaining about rights they really never had in the first place.
How clever, by that definition, everything is in space. The Earth is in space and since I'm on the Earth, I'm in space. Since everything is in space, why do we even need NASA?
Gold on this planet is worth X amount of dollars. Gold in space is worth X amount of dollars plus the cost to put it there, which as you have already pointed out is $500 million. So, if we can go to the asteroid belt or even just capture some of the asteroids near us already, those materials will be X amount of dollars plus $500 million times the number of missions needed to get those same materials into space. The X isn't really important. It's the $500 million per mission that is expensive.
See, it wasn't so hard and you probably learned something. Then again, I think since you missed my original point so badly, maybe humans getting off this rock isn't something you are interested in. Personally, I believe it is the only guarantee of mankinds survival, but then maybe mankind isn't meant to survive.
I will use tiny words from now on. Sorry for the confu... er... misco... ah... to hell with it.
Bruce and Richard should both be flattered. You only get detractors after you have made an impact. Not that I am a detractor, per se. I just think it is ironic that there are these very opinionated people who love to champion freedom and openness.
It's not nearly as ironic as the UN Committee on Human Rights, but it is good for a few laughs at least a few times a week.
Sorry folks, but Mars is a waste of time. We're better off studying the asteroid belt and sending probes to the more interesting moons. Even with fusion, it would take a really long time to make Mars even close to livable.
The asteroid belt is full of resources and the great thing about them is that they are already in space. We should start cataloging them and marking the ones that have necessary things like water, iron, gold, etc. Once we know what's out there, it won't be long before someone figures out how to get it and bring it back.
So in the NWO, only OSI approved entities will be able to call themselves "Open Source". I'm guessing that these new laws you speak of will require "Open Source" software.
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Linux is a really great kernel.
Gnome, KDE, etc are really ugly, poorly integrated windows managers.
The best applications available for Linux are servers that run on top of the kernel. They are without a doubt world class, best of breed, rock solid servers.
The best applications for Gnome, KDE, etc are p2p clients, decoders and cd/dvd rippers. They are without a doubt world class, best of breed, rock solid p2p clients, decoders and cd/dvd rippers. Everything else is a cheap knockoff of some commercial app.
The Linux kernel continues to adopt 21st century technology.
Gnome, KDE, etc are really ugly, poorly integrated windows managers.
The Linux kernel has support of major corporations.
Gnome, KDE, etc are anathema to corporations because the best apps are p2p clients, decoders and cd/dvd rippers, among other things.
Linux development is led by Linus Torvalds.
The development of Gnome, KDE, etc are led by a commitee, a carrot dangling from a stick and some guy in his mother's basement, repectively.
Linus is from Sveeeden.
Gnome, KDE, etc are from Mars, Venus and some poor mother's basement, respectively (or not).
Linux development is focused.
Gnome, KDE, etc do a great job of muddying the waters not just for developers but also for the users.
Everybody loves Linux!
Everybody can tell you why you shouldn't use Gnome, KDE, etc instead of Gnome, KDE, etc.
Linux is the present and future.
Gnome, KDE, etc are the reason why desktop Linux is not present.
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Call me a troll if it makes you feel better, but the truth hurts sometimes. It's not the Gnome, KDE, etc developers who are to blame, but the development model which doesn't provide focus and a market system (if you can call it that) that doesn't pick a winner.
The reason he is getting packets from these networks could be because these networks are under attack, not the other way around. Surely someone, somewhere is dossing Haliburton and DoD servers and they are probably using phony return addresses. Maybe they list their targets and spoofed addresses and generate an attack for each or maybe they're running mulitple scripts and their random IP generator isn't the first part.
There were some studies done about the amount of collateral traffic generated by dos attacks and it turns out to be quite a bit.
The interwebs were built on a foundation of trust, which is a goodness for everyone.
And the best way to maximize profits is to give the consumer what they want. Companies that are successful are usually very good at delivering things people want and usually at a price people can afford.
As opposed to the free software movement which, for the most part, holds consumers and everyone else in contempt for not being part of their movement.
I cannot and don't want to understand how someone can call something which brought about a revolution in communication, entertainment and productivity, affecting billions of people in a positive way, immoral. The idea that closed source software is immoral is closer to religion then philosophy. It is also insulting, idiotic and ignores the history of computers. Was it immoral for apple to release the mac and commodore to release the 64, both closed source? When my Dad brought home a tandy craptacular in 1978, was he exposing his 3 sons to immorality because it was also closed source? I just don't equate immorality with the rapid acceptance of PCs into homes around the world. Free software didn't do that, atari, commodore, apple, IBM and, yes, microsoft did that.
This latest rant from RMS sounds almosts exactly like what the Sony execs said when asked about the price of the PS3 before it launched. The sony fanboi comments at the time sound more than a little bit like yours. "You poor dumb ingrates just don't understand and lack the depth to appreciate the accomplishment."
So far not a single dropped email and no missing attachments. The interface is gawd awful and laggy. I expect lag in an FPS, not web mail. Anywhile, I think this goes in either the user error, FUD or page view whore department, take your pick.
I'll let you know, but it aint looking good for the study. Unless things start failing quick, I don't think this is going to stand up to scrutiny. The interface is a PoS and very slow.
There were already similar powers for terrorist organizations. This just adds organizations that are attacking Iraq, as opposed to US forces or interests.
The government, any government, has the right to search and seize assets at the border of their country. This has never been in doubt, ever. It doesn't even matter if the property is entering or leaving the country. Even the NSA "wire taps" are legal so long as the call crosses the border of the US. I'll concede the point that a conversation is property and listening or copying the conversation is seizure. As soon as that property crosses our border, the government has the right to search and seize it, if need be.
Get a grip people. You can't lose rights you never had.
I've wondered for a while if MS could pull off forking everything that is "GPLv2" and "GPLv2 or Later". The trick would be to do shadow development, never release a thing, until they have replaced all of the code that is controlled by the FSF and others. Think tool chains, compilers, libraries, etc. Once they have those pieces in place, they can start distributing and keep everything GPLv2, since the guts of the GPLv3 stuff will have all been replaced.
Basically, it is similar to the "we'll rewrite any code covered by patents" defense everyone was so enamored with when MS first started huffing about patents. Which, BTW, is probably not a good idea, as it would basically show that the patent was infringed upon. That would allow MS to sue for the period of infringement, which could be a long time.
Speculation is so much fun...
"We keep gleefully throwing away our rights in the name of what? Fear? That's bad rationale. Our founding fathers must be turning in their graves."
I'd like to know what rights you think have been thrown away? I think our founding fathers would be amazed that what they started has lasted so long, and longer than any other current government.
The NSA phone taps is probably what you are talking about, so I'm going to troll there. First, I'll concede the point that phone conversations are property and that making a copy of such can be considered seizure of said property. Now that that is out of the way, the NSA phone taps cover phone conversations between this country and another. The property in this case crosses our national border. It is 100% legal for the government to seize and search property at the border without the need for a search warrant. Always has been. So, no rights have been given up or forfeited.
There, feel better?
"That's only in Amerika of course."
Gee, you really believe the Chinese, Russian, Iranian, North Korean, Saudi, Syrian and Chilean governments would never do this? What about the Indonesian government or the government of any country in Africa? Seriously, put away the crack before the crack puts you away.
I would be more concerned if these companies were making deals to white-list spam bots or something truly nefarious.
It was split into other companies which did pretty good by themselves.
As far as getting locked into MS, I don't see how that can happen. Even during the monopoly hubbub, there were alternatives. Not very good alternatives (pay more for Apple, trust IBM to support a PC product), but alternatives none the less.
"It is important to realize that Microsoft has a position that has never been seen before in history. They control so much of the world's computers."
You must not know a thing about history. Big Blue ring a bell? Anywhile, I don't see how MS controls much of the world's computers, unless maybe you think all computers are PCs. Even then, I don't see how MS controls them. MS doesn't even sell computers for the most part. They are monopoly not because of any nefarious tactics, but because of economy of scale. Apple could have done the same thing, and tried briefly, but they didn't want to give up control of the hardware.
What I have never understood is how MS was declared a monopoly but Intel was not. There were fewer alternatives to Intel at the time and they used similar tactics with the HPs and Dells of the world as far as discounts and exclusivity.
Or maybe we should all convert to Islam, the religion of peace.
I'm pretty sure most of you USA haters would not give a rats ass if this thing was being used to hunt evangelicals in Oklahoma.
It's okay for someone to steal something copyrighted but it's wrong to steal the code that enables someone to steal something copyrighted if after said theft you plan on selling the code or taking it closed source.
I guess another way to put it is that it is okay to steal as long as it's somebody else stuff.
Glad to have that cleared up. I was getting confused by all this talk of freedom.
The offtopic tags around the third paragraph were stripped by /. I'm off to complain about it on my blog.
JK! As bad as slashdot can get, it's easily in my top 5 sites on the web of lies.
Or maybe you should open up a dialogue with the IT staff about why FF can't even be loaded. Going around company policy would not be my first choice. At my company, FF is the only way to use the intranet, go figure. However, I don't think there are any restrictions for others. I am a developer so I get to load anything I want.
Personally, I don't see how anyone is forced to do anything, however the original poster could be in China, North Korea, Russia, South Eastern Europe, the Middle East, South America or Africa, where there is known slavery, in which case the possiblity that the poster is shackled to a windows box is somewhat there, in a hazy, ghost like shimmer along with ID, nessie and Xenu.
Somewhere in the world actual people are forced to dig for diamonds every day, forced to produce crap electronics, forced to sew garments, forced to make sneakers, forced to do sex acts, forced to commit murder. For many of these people, they are forced at an age when they are helpless to resist. I know most of the slashdot crowd has lost all perspective, but please try to think about the world you inhabit and the other people that are in it before posting your sob story about the man keeping you down. You have no idea.
I'm willing to bet that you could afford an I-phone, so there's a second option for you. Third option, go work some where else. Cheer up, things aren't all bad.
As a child of I've Been Moved, I just have to say how nice this is. IBM is a wonderful company with a grand history. Like all successful companies, they have had their bad days. This is a great day for them.
Has to be the delivery guy. The kid probably gave him some slack and now the guy takes his xbox packages out to a field with a baseball bat.
I like Ubuntu fine, but my monitor is all streaky and the nvidia card is still not configured right. It shows up in the mysterious driver sections but the enable checkbox refuses to be checked. It's the second thing everyone says when they see my screen. "What's that? Why's it look all streaky?" is not the best way to start a conversation about linux.
The almost OP points out a bunch of bugs in vista and then someone else says it is hard to install, but the study is about security which is a completely different animal. Still, it's a bit of odd trend when analysts do studies about the first 6 months of this or that. It's almost like there's a fourth type of lie: lies, damn lies, statistics and statistical comparison.
Still, it's fun to see people posting about how the study is flawed.
I wonder how much this guy gets paid to come up with ideas that are really just a slight improvement on some other guys ideas that were inspired by some other guy who read a book that said there were canals on Mars.
Mars is a dry, cold, ugly gravity well. We live on a wet, warm, beautiful gravity well. I think it is a waste of resources, energy and time to escape our gravity well for a less hospitable gravity well. We are better off learning to live in space, which is probably going to be necessary for any Mars terraforming. We should also start cataloging what is already in space, another thing that might be usefull for the greening of Mars. The next step is to turn those resources not at the bottom of a gravity well into self-supporting machinery.
Once we can do those three things, we will probably realize that we don't need a gravity well to be happy. Then, it's wagon train to the stars time, which we can all agree is a good thing.
Seriously folks, what ever happens, the system of US governance will continue. The 2nd branch of government is investigating the 1st branch. If they can't agree on a resolution, the 3rd branch of government has the option to step in and decide the matter.
It actually all seems pretty silly the histrionics that occur on this site. Although to be fair, there doesn't seem to be a better place to discuss things. The idea that emails and phone calls are property seems to be a given. The idea that their being duplicated or recorded is an unreasonable search or seizure, that I'm not so sure about. Where are all the file sharers on this issue? Duplication of something made in or by a studio is not theft, but if you copy my email that's an illegal seizure?
The remedy for illegal search and seizure is dismissal of those things garnered by the same in a court of law. That is, they can't be used against you to prosecute a crime. However, the intention of this program is not to punish or catch offenders, it is simply to stop the crime from occuring.
Even in cases of real property, search and seizure at the borders has always been a recognized right of the government. Until the 3rd branch changes that, this doesn't appear to be anything other then a bunch of people complaining about rights they really never had in the first place.
How clever, by that definition, everything is in space. The Earth is in space and since I'm on the Earth, I'm in space. Since everything is in space, why do we even need NASA?
I'll just take one of your dull points...
Gold on this planet is worth X amount of dollars. Gold in space is worth X amount of dollars plus the cost to put it there, which as you have already pointed out is $500 million. So, if we can go to the asteroid belt or even just capture some of the asteroids near us already, those materials will be X amount of dollars plus $500 million times the number of missions needed to get those same materials into space. The X isn't really important. It's the $500 million per mission that is expensive.
See, it wasn't so hard and you probably learned something. Then again, I think since you missed my original point so badly, maybe humans getting off this rock isn't something you are interested in. Personally, I believe it is the only guarantee of mankinds survival, but then maybe mankind isn't meant to survive.
I will use tiny words from now on. Sorry for the confu... er... misco... ah... to hell with it.
Bruce and Richard should both be flattered. You only get detractors after you have made an impact. Not that I am a detractor, per se. I just think it is ironic that there are these very opinionated people who love to champion freedom and openness.
It's not nearly as ironic as the UN Committee on Human Rights, but it is good for a few laughs at least a few times a week.
Sorry folks, but Mars is a waste of time. We're better off studying the asteroid belt and sending probes to the more interesting moons. Even with fusion, it would take a really long time to make Mars even close to livable.
The asteroid belt is full of resources and the great thing about them is that they are already in space. We should start cataloging them and marking the ones that have necessary things like water, iron, gold, etc. Once we know what's out there, it won't be long before someone figures out how to get it and bring it back.
So in the NWO, only OSI approved entities will be able to call themselves "Open Source". I'm guessing that these new laws you speak of will require "Open Source" software.