1) To fit well 2) To be delicious 3) Anything else we damn well want to do with them
Evolution is a competition. It's not a cooperative effort. Sure, humans are the dominant species on earth right now, but that could all change in a hearbeat (or an asteroid, or a virus, etc...). Humans are not so all powerful that we can play the role of benevolent caretaker of the world. We should take advantage of our position in the food chain now, while we still can, because the fossil record tends to show that it won't last long.
I guess this explains why most CEO's can't see past next quarter's earnings report. If only the corporate culture at Worldcom and Enron was a little bit more casual...
Who said property rights was a great American tradition?
Oh nobody...just the FIFTH AMENDMENT!
"No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"
The original vision the founders had for property rights (including the original 14+14 copyright), is what made the American middle class possible. So they're very rewarding, for you and everyone else. If you don't have personal property rights, you have no incentive to work because the fruits of your labor can be taken from you at the whim of the government.
Maybe a more accurate word there would be "design". Obviously assembly line workers can be anywhere...but in software there is no assembly line worker.
Telecommuting will not save your job. Working longer hours will not save your job. Working for less money will not save your job.
If you think it will, then you're looking at this problem in the wrong way. You will never be able to beat the cost of offshore labor. Even if you could, you wouldn't want to. There's a reason it's so cheap...everything here costs 10 times more (rent, food, clothing, etc...) than it does in India and China.
It's like trying to beat Tiger Woods at golf. Maybe...maybe...if you train really hard, sacrifice your family and friends, and everything you ever knew or loved, you might be able to beat him in a round of golf if you were having a good day and he was having his worst one ever.
But a much simpler way to be him would just be to school his ass at Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003' for the PS2. The game is a lot easier if you change the rules a bit;-).
The weakest point of outsourcing is the lack of communication. Developers in India can't communicate with customers here because:
1) English is not their native language 2) There's no face to face communication 3) They're 12 hours ahead
And if you can't talk to the customers, you can't solve new problems. Old problems are easy to solve. Those are the kinds of things that can be effectively outsourced. Building yet another e-business website with a shopping cart and inventory control; Creating one more payroll processing system based on an SQL database; It's the well understood problems, where the customers know exactly what they want, that can be outsourced. Everything else seems to fail.
And that is the IT Industry's saving grace. Using new technology to solve new problems that are not well understood will always have to be done here, because solving those problems requires constant and effective communication with the "customer" (the users of the sofware).
Software is slowly and painfully learning the lesson that manufacturing learned a long time ago: "Build where you sell". If engineers can't talk to the people who will be using thier products, they won't know what to build. Most problems in software are not well understood enough to be completely spec'd out by an intermediary party and passed onto the engineers for implementation. That is why lots of outsourcing ventures fail, and that is why the innovators here in the States will always have a job.
I am a UMR grad, and let me tell you, the solar car is the only "sport" my school has.
Let me give you an idea of what the campus is like. We have the
Chemical Engineering Building
Mechanical Engineering Building
Electrical Engineering Building
Civil Engineering Building
Nuclear Engineering Building
Geology and Geophysics Building
Computer Science Building
Physics Building
Mathematics Building
Engineering Management Building
and one Arts and Sciences building with all those pansy ass "liberal arts" classes in them. (I probably left one out...it's been a while since I was back)
So needless to say it's a geekfest. I think our football team has won once....like in it's history. The Solar Car challenge is something we dominate in because, well, we can.
After days of research I finally found out that Nokia had NEVER implemented the irDa port correctly to the library that Java used.
So why exactly is this a problem with Java? Nokia didn't stick to the specification, and your program doesn't run because of it. If Nokia didn't stick to the spec for thier native libraries, you would have the exact same problem with your C++ app.
Sounds to me like the real issue here is with Nokia not doing thier job.
There are only about 125 classes in the entire MIDP specification, and alot of these are things like Integer and IllegalStateException. When you get down to the meat of it, there's maybe a couple dozen classes that you really need to understand.
I find MIDP to be very simple and easy to use. Maybe it helps to be a Java progammer and understand the Java way of doing things, but I've built a few J2ME applications and I've been amazed at how little time they took to create, and how well the finished product performed.
Like you, I refuse to believe that Americans are different than any other industrialized nation or citizen.
Well evidently something I am not good at is communicating my arguments...because I DO believe that Americans are better than any other industrialized nation or citizen when it comes to developing new products. Our level of education, motivation, risk tolerance is much higher and my argument is that this is where we should focus our attention...and not on trying to preserve the jobs that have provided for us in the past.
The IT market is now a worldwide commodity. We can't compete...we're too expensive. It's time to make a new market where we hold a monopoly.
It'll be a cold fucking day in hell before I join a union. I don't feel like giving up a big hunk of my pay to some union so I that I can watch incompetent people be promoted on the basis on seniority instead of performance. And hey....maybe if we're lucky, we can join up with the teamsters! Nothing like forced political donations and organized crime to really stick it to "The Man"!
Fuck that.
And you know what, there's a whole ton of people who agree with me. So go ahead. Form a union...strike if you want. I'll be first in line to be a scab.
While I think you have a valid point in your post, I do object to this - there is one very good reason why Americans are worth 10 times more than the rest of the world - because the economic capital (read: technological infrastructure/overal education level/economic rules) developed in the US is far greater than India's.
Maybe I didn't phrase it well enough, but that's exactly my point. We deserve more money because we're better at getting the job done. The reason these jobs are moving overseas is because IT is becoming easier to do, and requires less (technological infrastructure/overal education level/economic rules) in order to get it done.
The solution to this problem is not to try to keep these jobs here. That's a lost cause. The solution is to take advantage of all the economic capital this country gives us, take some risks, invest some time and money, and create the next great paradigm shift. We're the only ones that can do it (and by we, I mean 1st world nations, not strictly America).
Global Capitalism, our New World Order, pits the Indian workers against the American workers and indeed against every other worker on earth. Each worker must continue to lower his or her labor prices in comparison to the others in order to remain employed; in order to live.
This argument is based on the false premise that the only difference (aside from cost) between a worker in India and a worker in America is that the Indian is in India, and the American is in America. Americans are not cogs in a machine, and I don't want any job that treats us as such....send it over to India, fine with me. I mean, did you really want to save all those assembly line jobs that went offshore in the 70's. Why? To keep them here in the U.S. so that your kids can grow up, go to college, and work on a line for the rest of thier lives? Of course not.
America makes itself great by doing what others cannot. Keeping unskilled and semi-skilled jobs here when they could more efficently be done offshore reduces our power to innovate by wasting the labor force on menial tasks. Think of it this way. If a guy in China can make Product X for 1/10th the cost of a guy in the U.S. Why would anyone outside the U.S. buy from us (no pun intended). Answer: they wouldn't. Result: U.S. companies stop being able to compete in the world market, which means they have to lay off people not because they're shipping the jobs overseas, but because the jobs no longer exist.
The only solution, painful as it may be, is to start looking for an edge over the world market. What is it that everyone needs, that we can make, that nobody else can make? I don't know. But anyone who does will make a killing when it happens (Think Webmaster circa 1997). I don't like it anymore than you do...but them's the facts.
Make yourself more valuable than those Indian workers by being willing to work 60 hours a week for the same salary
Working 60 hours a week, or 80 hours a week will not save your job. Please re-read step #1 carefully:
1) Identify what it is that you can do that cannot be done by anyone else
A programmer in India can obviously work however many hours per week that you work +1, for whatever you get paid -1. Working hard is not a differentating factor between you and Samir over in India.
I am NOT just saying "work harder". Not at your current job, anyway. What i'm saying is that you cannot stick you head in the sand, casually learn whatever new programming language or operating system is in vouge at the time, and expect to keep your job. You have to LOOK AHEAD and LOOK AROUND.
Looking ahead means figuring out what skills will be desirable in the next 2-5 years that would be difficult to learn overseas, and learning them. These skills may not be limited to Information Technology. If, for example, you want to be a coder, and you think that Informatics (Medicine + IT) is the next big thing (as many people do), then you might want to take some classes at your local university on medicine and biology. That's something that a coder in china probably won't be able to do. Combining domain knowledge that is specific to U.S. companies with your IT knowledge will make you more qualified that those guys offshore.
Looking around means trying to find oppertunities here in the states that are not available to overseas developers. Do you think that an overseas developer can afford the $10,000 in airfare it would take to go to a professional conference like JavaOne? You, however, might be able to make a day trip out of it, learn a few cutting edge skills, and meet a few contacts that those developers in India simply won't have access to.
In the end, it does no good to argue with me. This is going to happen, just like it did in the 70's. You can spend you time whining about capitalism, globalization and the evil multinational corporations... OR you can deal with the situation by making yourself irreplaceable. Not by working harder, or taking less money, but by thinking ahead.
I'm an American. I lead a lifestyle that is substantially better than most of the people on the planet. Outsourcing of IT jobs to countries like China, Russia and India is threatening that lifestyle, and if I'm not careful it could all go right down the drain.
I say: Good. It's about damn time.
Why does America deserve to have all the wealth that it has? If someone in India can do my job at 1/10th the cost, why exactly should anyone pay me to do it? Simply to support my American way of life? No. The American way of life is not a birthright. It has to be earned. You earn it by doing what those guys in India and China and Russia can't do. You earn it by innovating, and by taking risks. You earn it by seizing on oppertunities that those guys simply do not have access to.
It's time to wake up people. Being able to sling a little code, set up a webserver and talk your way around a design meeting is not going to cut it anymore. You need to get off your ass, put the time in on the weekends and:
1) Identify what it is that you can do that cannot be done by anyone else (or at least, anyone who is willing to work for your salary)
2) Train yourself to do it well.
Otherwise you will not have a job. Simple as that. Just like during the manufacturing boom in the 50's and 60's, America (and Western Civilization in general) had gotten fat and lazy in the last few years. Now there is simply no reason why you are worth 10 times more than the rest of the world. So you had better come up with a reason, or move to China.
Woah! This is going way too far....A picture in a Passport! The audacity! Won't anyone think of the 4th admendment? I should quit my job and join the Michigan Milita. Viva La Revolution!
Come on people....If this had been done 5 years ago the response would have been "A digital picture in my passport? SWEET! One more thing I can try to hack..." Not everything is a facist government conspiracy to rob you of your freedom. Sometimes it's just using technology to make something better.
Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT because if it leaks to the VC he could wind up MIA and then we'd all be put on KP.
Sun did the Petstore example with J2ee, MS ported it to.NET and showed a huge performance spike...
The reason for the performance "boost" was that Microsoft didn't use EJB data caching in the Java version they tested against. So every request sent a query straight to the database. They did use a database caching system for thier implementation, however, and so the performance was much higher. Certianly not apples and oranges, but what do you expect from Microsoft.
A fingerprint can only be used to determine identity. Aside from that purpose, there is limited danger in maintaining a registry of fingerprints from military or civilian use.
DNA is a completely different story.
DNA can be used to determine almost anything about a person. Race, sex, hair and eye color, genetic medical conditions, etc... Because of this, we have to be very careful about what we allow these databases to be used for. If you think racial profiling is bad, think about the ramifications of genetic profiling. "We stopped you because your DNA profile says that you have poor depth perception and you shouldn't be driving."
In this case, the use was apparently legal and just. But if the Army could use this database to determine who is best suited for promotion, or who is gay, or any other nefarious purpose, don't you think they would (or have?)
I would prohibit anyone (including myself) from selling company stock until 90 days after they left the company. You shouldn't buy stock to get rich quick, you should buy stock because you believe in the future of the company.
Of course, there'd be nothing to prevent you from getting dividends on the stock, so you'd make a little money from it in the meantime. But I don't want anyone working for me who plans to artifically pump up the stock price and then bail after they cash out.
I'm considering building a WebApp using JBoss + Tomcat + MySQL. However I'm still undecided on how to develop the frontend...I'm thinking JSP + something. Has anyone had any success with Velocity in a real-world product?
Good: Having the teacher give the give the lecture as a power point presentation with a LCD projector. The slides can then be published on the web for later consumption
Bad: Holding a lecture in a computer lab and having the class "follow along".
Good: Requiring that students use a mix of sources in thier papers, including electronic and print.
Bad: Not grading them on their sources "Bob's Website of SuperFun Stats says that..."
Good: Requiring that students turn in a digital copy of thier papers along with a print version for markup.
Bad: Not running plagarism checking software on those digital copies.
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Is it right to torture animals for no purpose?
Of course not. That's just sick. How would that benefit anyone at all?
Animals have three purposes:
1) To fit well
2) To be delicious
3) Anything else we damn well want to do with them
Evolution is a competition. It's not a cooperative effort. Sure, humans are the dominant species on earth right now, but that could all change in a hearbeat (or an asteroid, or a virus, etc...). Humans are not so all powerful that we can play the role of benevolent caretaker of the world. We should take advantage of our position in the food chain now, while we still can, because the fossil record tends to show that it won't last long.
I guess this explains why most CEO's can't see past next quarter's earnings report. If only the corporate culture at Worldcom and Enron was a little bit more casual...
Who said property rights was a great American tradition?
Oh nobody...just the FIFTH AMENDMENT!
"No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"
The original vision the founders had for property rights (including the original 14+14 copyright), is what made the American middle class possible. So they're very rewarding, for you and everyone else. If you don't have personal property rights, you have no incentive to work because the fruits of your labor can be taken from you at the whim of the government.
Now music...that's a whole other story...
Maybe a more accurate word there would be "design". Obviously assembly line workers can be anywhere...but in software there is no assembly line worker.
Telecommuting will not save your job.
;-).
Working longer hours will not save your job.
Working for less money will not save your job.
If you think it will, then you're looking at this problem in the wrong way. You will never be able to beat the cost of offshore labor. Even if you could, you wouldn't want to. There's a reason it's so cheap...everything here costs 10 times more (rent, food, clothing, etc...) than it does in India and China.
It's like trying to beat Tiger Woods at golf. Maybe...maybe...if you train really hard, sacrifice your family and friends, and everything you ever knew or loved, you might be able to beat him in a round of golf if you were having a good day and he was having his worst one ever.
But a much simpler way to be him would just be to school his ass at Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003' for the PS2. The game is a lot easier if you change the rules a bit
The weakest point of outsourcing is the lack of communication. Developers in India can't communicate with customers here because:
1) English is not their native language
2) There's no face to face communication
3) They're 12 hours ahead
And if you can't talk to the customers, you can't solve new problems. Old problems are easy to solve. Those are the kinds of things that can be effectively outsourced. Building yet another e-business website with a shopping cart and inventory control; Creating one more payroll processing system based on an SQL database; It's the well understood problems, where the customers know exactly what they want, that can be outsourced. Everything else seems to fail.
And that is the IT Industry's saving grace. Using new technology to solve new problems that are not well understood will always have to be done here, because solving those problems requires constant and effective communication with the "customer" (the users of the sofware).
Software is slowly and painfully learning the lesson that manufacturing learned a long time ago: "Build where you sell". If engineers can't talk to the people who will be using thier products, they won't know what to build. Most problems in software are not well understood enough to be completely spec'd out by an intermediary party and passed onto the engineers for implementation. That is why lots of outsourcing ventures fail, and that is why the innovators here in the States will always have a job.
...the *minimum* for someone convicted federally of aggravated sexual assault is generally between 70 to 87
Only a lawyer could give a minimum value as a range of two numbers.
Sheesh...
That is what I meant by Geology and Geophysics. Trying to keep it simple for the folks on slashdot.
Let me give you an idea of what the campus is like. We have the
and one Arts and Sciences building with all those pansy ass "liberal arts" classes in them. (I probably left one out...it's been a while since I was back)
So needless to say it's a geekfest. I think our football team has won once....like in it's history. The Solar Car challenge is something we dominate in because, well, we can.
One more time....GO MINERS!
After days of research I finally found out that Nokia had NEVER implemented the irDa port correctly to the library that Java used.
So why exactly is this a problem with Java? Nokia didn't stick to the specification, and your program doesn't run because of it. If Nokia didn't stick to the spec for thier native libraries, you would have the exact same problem with your C++ app.
Sounds to me like the real issue here is with Nokia not doing thier job.
There are only about 125 classes in the entire MIDP specification, and alot of these are things like Integer and IllegalStateException. When you get down to the meat of it, there's maybe a couple dozen classes that you really need to understand.
I find MIDP to be very simple and easy to use. Maybe it helps to be a Java progammer and understand the Java way of doing things, but I've built a few J2ME applications and I've been amazed at how little time they took to create, and how well the finished product performed.
Like you, I refuse to believe that Americans are different than any other industrialized nation or citizen.
Well evidently something I am not good at is communicating my arguments...because I DO believe that Americans are better than any other industrialized nation or citizen when it comes to developing new products. Our level of education, motivation, risk tolerance is much higher and my argument is that this is where we should focus our attention...and not on trying to preserve the jobs that have provided for us in the past.
The IT market is now a worldwide commodity. We can't compete...we're too expensive. It's time to make a new market where we hold a monopoly.
It'll be a cold fucking day in hell before I join a union. I don't feel like giving up a big hunk of my pay to some union so I that I can watch incompetent people be promoted on the basis on seniority instead of performance. And hey....maybe if we're lucky, we can join up with the teamsters! Nothing like forced political donations and organized crime to really stick it to "The Man"!
Fuck that.
And you know what, there's a whole ton of people who agree with me. So go ahead. Form a union...strike if you want. I'll be first in line to be a scab.
While I think you have a valid point in your post, I do object to this - there is one very good reason why Americans are worth 10 times more than the rest of the world - because the economic capital (read: technological infrastructure/overal education level/economic rules) developed in the US is far greater than India's.
Maybe I didn't phrase it well enough, but that's exactly my point. We deserve more money because we're better at getting the job done. The reason these jobs are moving overseas is because IT is becoming easier to do, and requires less (technological infrastructure/overal education level/economic rules) in order to get it done.
The solution to this problem is not to try to keep these jobs here. That's a lost cause. The solution is to take advantage of all the economic capital this country gives us, take some risks, invest some time and money, and create the next great paradigm shift. We're the only ones that can do it (and by we, I mean 1st world nations, not strictly America).
Global Capitalism, our New World Order, pits the Indian workers against the American workers and indeed against every other worker on earth. Each worker must continue to lower his or her labor prices in comparison to the others in order to remain employed; in order to live.
This argument is based on the false premise that the only difference (aside from cost) between a worker in India and a worker in America is that the Indian is in India, and the American is in America. Americans are not cogs in a machine, and I don't want any job that treats us as such....send it over to India, fine with me. I mean, did you really want to save all those assembly line jobs that went offshore in the 70's. Why? To keep them here in the U.S. so that your kids can grow up, go to college, and work on a line for the rest of thier lives? Of course not.
America makes itself great by doing what others cannot. Keeping unskilled and semi-skilled jobs here when they could more efficently be done offshore reduces our power to innovate by wasting the labor force on menial tasks. Think of it this way. If a guy in China can make Product X for 1/10th the cost of a guy in the U.S. Why would anyone outside the U.S. buy from us (no pun intended). Answer: they wouldn't. Result: U.S. companies stop being able to compete in the world market, which means they have to lay off people not because they're shipping the jobs overseas, but because the jobs no longer exist.
The only solution, painful as it may be, is to start looking for an edge over the world market. What is it that everyone needs, that we can make, that nobody else can make? I don't know. But anyone who does will make a killing when it happens (Think Webmaster circa 1997). I don't like it anymore than you do...but them's the facts.
Make yourself more valuable than those Indian workers by being willing to work 60 hours a week for the same salary
Working 60 hours a week, or 80 hours a week will not save your job. Please re-read step #1 carefully:
1) Identify what it is that you can do that cannot be done by anyone else
A programmer in India can obviously work however many hours per week that you work +1, for whatever you get paid -1. Working hard is not a differentating factor between you and Samir over in India.
I am NOT just saying "work harder". Not at your current job, anyway. What i'm saying is that you cannot stick you head in the sand, casually learn whatever new programming language or operating system is in vouge at the time, and expect to keep your job. You have to LOOK AHEAD and LOOK AROUND.
Looking ahead means figuring out what skills will be desirable in the next 2-5 years that would be difficult to learn overseas, and learning them. These skills may not be limited to Information Technology. If, for example, you want to be a coder, and you think that Informatics (Medicine + IT) is the next big thing (as many people do), then you might want to take some classes at your local university on medicine and biology. That's something that a coder in china probably won't be able to do. Combining domain knowledge that is specific to U.S. companies with your IT knowledge will make you more qualified that those guys offshore.
Looking around means trying to find oppertunities here in the states that are not available to overseas developers. Do you think that an overseas developer can afford the $10,000 in airfare it would take to go to a professional conference like JavaOne? You, however, might be able to make a day trip out of it, learn a few cutting edge skills, and meet a few contacts that those developers in India simply won't have access to.
In the end, it does no good to argue with me. This is going to happen, just like it did in the 70's. You can spend you time whining about capitalism, globalization and the evil multinational corporations... OR you can deal with the situation by making yourself irreplaceable. Not by working harder, or taking less money, but by thinking ahead.
I'm an American. I lead a lifestyle that is substantially better than most of the people on the planet. Outsourcing of IT jobs to countries like China, Russia and India is threatening that lifestyle, and if I'm not careful it could all go right down the drain.
I say: Good. It's about damn time.
Why does America deserve to have all the wealth that it has? If someone in India can do my job at 1/10th the cost, why exactly should anyone pay me to do it? Simply to support my American way of life? No. The American way of life is not a birthright. It has to be earned. You earn it by doing what those guys in India and China and Russia can't do. You earn it by innovating, and by taking risks. You earn it by seizing on oppertunities that those guys simply do not have access to.
It's time to wake up people. Being able to sling a little code, set up a webserver and talk your way around a design meeting is not going to cut it anymore. You need to get off your ass, put the time in on the weekends and:
1) Identify what it is that you can do that cannot be done by anyone else (or at least, anyone who is willing to work for your salary)
2) Train yourself to do it well.
Otherwise you will not have a job. Simple as that. Just like during the manufacturing boom in the 50's and 60's, America (and Western Civilization in general) had gotten fat and lazy in the last few years. Now there is simply no reason why you are worth 10 times more than the rest of the world. So you had better come up with a reason, or move to China.
Woah! This is going way too far....A picture in a Passport! The audacity! Won't anyone think of the 4th admendment? I should quit my job and join the Michigan Milita. Viva La Revolution!
Come on people....If this had been done 5 years ago the response would have been "A digital picture in my passport? SWEET! One more thing I can try to hack..." Not everything is a facist government conspiracy to rob you of your freedom. Sometimes it's just using technology to make something better.
Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT because if it leaks to the VC he could wind up MIA and then we'd all be put on KP.
If you need more specific information, we can discuss it by email.
I'd love more specific information...but what's your e-mail address? (it's not public)
Sun did the Petstore example with J2ee, MS ported it to .NET and showed a huge performance spike...
The reason for the performance "boost" was that Microsoft didn't use EJB data caching in the Java version they tested against. So every request sent a query straight to the database. They did use a database caching system for thier implementation, however, and so the performance was much higher. Certianly not apples and oranges, but what do you expect from Microsoft.
A fingerprint can only be used to determine identity. Aside from that purpose, there is limited danger in maintaining a registry of fingerprints from military or civilian use.
DNA is a completely different story.
DNA can be used to determine almost anything about a person. Race, sex, hair and eye color, genetic medical conditions, etc... Because of this, we have to be very careful about what we allow these databases to be used for. If you think racial profiling is bad, think about the ramifications of genetic profiling. "We stopped you because your DNA profile says that you have poor depth perception and you shouldn't be driving."
In this case, the use was apparently legal and just. But if the Army could use this database to determine who is best suited for promotion, or who is gay, or any other nefarious purpose, don't you think they would (or have?)
I would prohibit anyone (including myself) from selling company stock until 90 days after they left the company. You shouldn't buy stock to get rich quick, you should buy stock because you believe in the future of the company.
Of course, there'd be nothing to prevent you from getting dividends on the stock, so you'd make a little money from it in the meantime. But I don't want anyone working for me who plans to artifically pump up the stock price and then bail after they cash out.
I'm considering building a WebApp using JBoss + Tomcat + MySQL. However I'm still undecided on how to develop the frontend...I'm thinking JSP + something. Has anyone had any success with Velocity in a real-world product?
Good:
Having the teacher give the give the lecture as a power point presentation with a LCD projector. The slides can then be published on the web for later consumption
Bad:
Holding a lecture in a computer lab and having the class "follow along".
Good:
Requiring that students use a mix of sources in thier papers, including electronic and print.
Bad:
Not grading them on their sources "Bob's Website of SuperFun Stats says that..."
Good:
Requiring that students turn in a digital copy of thier papers along with a print version for markup.
Bad:
Not running plagarism checking software on those digital copies.