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Wearing a Tie May Cause Blindness!

An anonymous reader noted that there finally is some science to justify not wearing a tie! Doctors have found that wearing a tie too tight causes pressure on the jugular vein, which leads to a build-up of pressure in the eyeballs. Such pressure rises have been linked to glaucoma, which causes blindness. Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

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  1. more than you bargained for... by sweeney37 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    I'd just like to remind you, you're the one working with CowboyNeal, not us.

    Mike

    1. Re:more than you bargained for... by Latent+IT · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks to working with IT people, I can assure you, the patterns on the ties these people pick out are far more damaging to my eyesight than any pressure on my jugular vein, thanks.

    2. Re:more than you bargained for... by garcia · · Score: 2, Funny

      man, those poor guys thought that if they stopped stroking their penis ties in front of the water cooler they wouldn't have a chance at blindness. Boy were they wrong!

    3. Re:more than you bargained for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do have to wear ties, be sure your shirts have a proper collar size. Shirts that you wear open collar will probably have too small collars.

    4. Re:more than you bargained for... by corgicorgi · · Score: 1

      I guess they are *that* close. :)

    5. Re:more than you bargained for... by drauh · · Score: 1

      Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

      But, but... isn't the extra pressure from blood pooling in the, erm... lower... regions... desirable? After all, 2 billion spam messages can't be wrong.
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  2. No Pants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    Mister taco, If you came to my office with no pants on I think I would gauge my eyes out.

    1. Re:No Pants? by PhoenixK7 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I would gauge my eyes out."

      How does one do that? Is it like checking eyeball fluid pressure?

    2. Re:No Pants? by Ominous+Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe him coming to your office without pants might cause you to start wearing a tie to work instead?

      I always thought they seemed kind of like nooses, now I guess I know I wasn't that far off.

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      Ceci n'est pas une sig.
    3. Re:No Pants? by Ominous+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it's like piercings. When you gauge out a piercing, you widen it. Perhaps he meant to say that his eyes would widen at the site of a pants-less CmdrTaco?

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      Ceci n'est pas une sig.
    4. Re:No Pants? by jcsehak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mister taco, If you came to my office with no pants on I think I would gauge my eyes out.

      "Woah, Taco's in my office with no pants!
      ...hmm, 38mm... hey! They're not bigger at all! Cartoons lie!"

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      c-hack.com |
  3. yeah ties!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i like ties :(

  4. Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Hairy_Potter · · Score: 5, Funny

    I work with lots of fat, pasty software devs, I'd rather not see them pantless.

    If we could take pot-breaks to combat blindness, well, now you're talking.

    1. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Sklivvz · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Italy, we DO take pot breaks! :-)

    2. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by wolftone · · Score: 1

      well, pot does alleviate some of the severe effects of glaucoma. so let's wear ties so that we can pull the medicinal excuse for smoking.

    3. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are many prescription drugs that do far more to combat Glaucoma than marijuana could ever hope to do. The only reason that anyone wants to have "medical" marijuana is for the side effects. If they were truly concerned about their glaucoma, then they would use one of the aforementioned prescription drugs.

    4. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Jameth · · Score: 1

      I do recommend fucking pantsless. It just helps a bit.

    5. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Izago909 · · Score: 1

      One of the advantages of having more than one treatment to an illnes is that people can choose which side effects they want to deal with. I can't blame someone who chooses temporary euphoria and foggy memory over... lets say headache, crapms, and a leaking anus. Besides, the majority of people with eye troubles are elderly anyway. They've paid their debit to society, let 'em do what they want.

      my choice is what I choose to do
      and if I'm causing no harm
      it shouldn't bother you
      your choice is who you choose to be
      and if your causin' no harm
      then you're alright with me
      Ben Harper

    6. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Anonymous+Coed · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear!!! Let's introduce a little sanity to "The System."

    7. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in soviet amerika we do to (don't tell anyone)

    8. Re:Fuck pantlessness, let us smoke pot by Kosi · · Score: 1

      OK, let's combine this: let's fuck stoned *and* pantless!

      Works for me at least ... :)

  5. as by radja · · Score: 5, Funny

    for wearing pants: they're optional. you are also allowed to wear a skirt, kilt or dress.

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    No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
    --Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
    1. Re:as by TheMidget · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you have to wear underwear under your kilt?

    2. Re:as by GnuVince · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only if your reputation would be totally destroyed if your genitals were exposed

    3. Re:as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Nothing is worn under a kilt. It's all in perfect working order."

    4. Re:as by interiot · · Score: 4, Funny

      A more appropriate question would be: What are you wearing under your kilt? And the answer: shoes!

    5. Re:as by tim_uk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do women HAVE to wear underwear under their kirts/dresses?

      Like life, it's optional.

      Tim
      www.utilikilts.com - join the revolution

    6. Re:as by csteinle · · Score: 3, Informative

      If it's a rental, yes. You don't know where it's been.

      If it's your's, it's optional. Personally, I find the wool of the tartan can chafe, so I usually do. Particularly when attending weddings, as there can be alot of dancing involved.

      (As a side issue, always remember to move your sporran before dancing. A bouncing sporran can cause undue wincing.)

      Oh, and kilts are babe magnets.

    7. Re:as by Darkwolven · · Score: 1


      Utilikilts and other alternative kilts rock. Pants were not made for men. They were created to fill a function. Throw down your pants and wear a more ergonomically appropriate piece of clothing for men! Almost all men who try kilts such as Utilikilts or Amerikilts never go back to pants again or only wear them when they absolutely must. It's comfort and freedom in clothing.

      http://www.kiltedlife.com

    8. Re:as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which remindes me of a bumper sticker I saw yesterday: "Real scotsmen wear kilts. Sheep can year a zipper at 500 feet."

    9. Re:as by DarkSarin · · Score: 1

      Actually, the sad truth is that wearing pants to tightly can cause one's sperm to be killed by excessive body heat (because the genitals are NOT supposed to be hugged up next to everything else).
      So plead that you can't wear pants because you have to protect the future generations of your family.

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      "We don't know what we are doing, but we are doing it very carefully,..." Wherry, R.J. Personnel Psychology (1995)
    10. Re:as by SmoothOperator · · Score: 3, Informative
      Ah, you're not a real Scotsman then. Didn't your momma tell you to saw a square of silk to the inside of the front of the kilt? Perfect solution to the chaffing problem, plus its sanitary as well!

      --

      Veni, vidi, vici.

    11. Re:as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not making up this one:

      A few years ago in Rome, on a warm and sunny day, a mixed crowd of tourists was gathered around the Trevi fountain - among them some young Scots in Kilts and three cute blonde girls of nordish origin, who were giggling constantly and looking at the Scots.

      After a few minutes of giggling, ogling and whispering, the boldest of the girls approached the Scotsmen and asked them, in English with a cute accent, if it was true that the Scots didn't wear anything under their Kilts.

      The reply was instantaneous: "We'll lift our kilts and show you if you three lift your T-shirts and show us your tits right here on the spot." (it was quite obvious that none of the girls was wearing a bra).

      Well, both sides fulfilled their part of the agreement, to the great pleasure of the crowd.

      Oh, and I gathered that traditionally clad men in Scotland should be really careful during the thistle harvest.

    12. Re:as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      (As a side issue, always remember to move your sporran before dancing. A bouncing sporran can cause undue wincing.)

      Hmm, what's a sporran ;^)

    13. Re:as by freakinPsycho · · Score: 1

      Check out Utilikilts. Wonderful products that I wear to work on a regular occasion.

      Besides, women love a guy in a kilt.

      --
      "All the things I really like to do are either immoral, illegal, or fattening."
      - Alexandar Woolcot
    14. Re:as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually if u dont wear underwear under ur kilt, u'll find it start to get itchy in there because of the type of material kilts are made from :) I remember this from home improvement.

    15. Re:as by csteinle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Born in Glasgow, brought up just south of Inverness, now live in Edinburgh. Scottish enough? And no, I don't know your great uncle Wullie :-)

      There's actaully a big patch of cotton on the inside of mine. Us poor Highlanders can't afford silk. That's for you soft 13th gen ex-pats. Still more comfortable with undercrackers.

      And it's not "momma" in Scotland. I think you'll find it's "Maw". :-)

    16. Re:as by csteinle · · Score: 1

      A hairy handbag.

  6. Pants(American) or Pants(British) by ninthwave · · Score: 4, Funny

    I rarely were pants(British) to the office. No one ever seems to notice here.

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    I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said: "I drank what?" - Chris Knight (Val Kilmer)- Real Genius
    1. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I worked for a Broking company (uk) and never wore Trouser's, always combats (leg side pockets), they offered me a position in Australia that i took, after i left they sent an e-mail to all staff, requiring them to wear trouser's and not combats.

      Thought you'd find this amusing!

    2. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pants = underwear in international english

    3. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aren't you worried about skidmarks?

    4. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were cultured at all, you would realize that British idioms are more common in International English than American idioms, especially among Europeans.

    5. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The joke would have been funnier if you hadn't explained it to death. For example, "I wear trousers to the office, you insensitive clod!"

    6. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you weren't an idiot, you'd note that the post also mentioned "gays", "niggers", "spics", and "slanteyed panheads", and just might be a troll.

    7. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 3, Funny
      ...you would realize that British idioms are more common in International English...

      Not that one. In New Zealand anyway, Pants are slacks/trousers, whilst underpants/gruts are y-fronts/boxers/jockeys/slips/briefs. But we wear shorts anyway (traditionally green shorts, black singlet ("vest" to pommies), black gumboots (although kids are wearing fancy colours these days) and probably a floppy cotton hat).

    8. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Werepants?

      Is that some kind of horrible pant-based creature that can only be destroyed by silver scissors?

    9. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm well aware of that as I work with many Europeans and Indians. International English happens to be what they learn in school, not what they would choose if given the option to learn the English from the most important English speaking country in the world.

      Yet this is an American website and my European and Indian friends are in America so I would expect them to use American vocabulary.

    10. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bite me dude,

      it wasn't a joke, just a true story i find amusing, the company was too scared of upsetting me and losing me to ask me not to wear combats, but that was obviously lost on you, you "insensitive clod".

    11. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KRAMER: Oh, it be so. I'm out there, Jerry, an' I'm lovin' every minute of it!!!

      JERRY: Don't you need a little...help?

      KRAMER: Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.. I'm like a naked innocent boy roamin' the countryside!!

    12. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Werepants?

      There pants. There castle.

    13. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by sharkdba · · Score: 1

      I rarely were pants...

      So you were being pants once... I heard about a guy claiming being shoes once, but pants it's a first.

      --
      The purpose of life is to find the purpose of life.
    14. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      And the gumboots are, of course, to stick the sheep's back legs into ...

      --
      What a long, strange trip it's been.
    15. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you Wal Footrot!

    16. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by hplasm · · Score: 1
      pants->underpants->nads.

      pants go on the outside, except when worn with cloak.

      UNDERpants go UNDER the PANTS. sheesh!

      --
      ...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
    17. Re:Pants(American) or Pants(British) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Repeat after me:

      If it weren't for your gumboots where would you be?

      You'd be in the hospital or infirmary.

      'Cos you would have a dose of the 'flu or even pleuresy.

      if you didn't keep your feet in your gummmmbooots!

      dadada dum bom bum bam dum bom bum bam...

  7. No problem here... by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be interesting to find out what portion of /. readers where ties regularly. I'd guess the figure would be very low, somewhere under 5%. When I got my first office job back in 1986, wearing ties every day was the norm. In my case, that changed around 1994 (thank goodness)...

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    1. Re:No problem here... by echucker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Smells like a new poll idea to me....

      "What do you wear to work?"
      Suit
      Shirt, tie, and slacks
      Polos and khakis
      T-shirt and jeans
      Shorts and sandals
      I telecommute, you insensitive clod!
      I left my clothes at CowboyNeal's last night

    2. Re:No problem here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a similar note, I'd like to ask how many slashdot readers know that you wear a tie in the place where you work. ;)

    3. Re:No problem here... by procifer · · Score: 5, Funny

      let's just be honest,
      if you telecommute, it's pretty much guaranteed you work naked; well, it'd be stupid not to.

    4. Re:No problem here... by Troed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Their's no point in bullying them for they're bad grammar! There people too!

    5. Re:No problem here... by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      Our office is shirt and tie (no tie fridays was just begun) and I wear a suit/sportcoat about monthly for boardmeetings, but I work in finance.

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    6. Re:No problem here... by digidave · · Score: 1

      Today I am wearing green shorts and a golf shirt with running shoes, which is about as dressed up as I get during the summer. I can easily get away with a t-shirt and sandals along with my shorts. I'm a tech in a TV studio and the only people more casual than techs are TV people. It's not unusual for the girl who works Master Control (dunno what really goes on in that room) to wear ripped jeans and a skimpy tank top. I love summer :)

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    7. Re:No problem here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      When I got my first office job back in 1986, wearing ties every day was the norm.

      They made 14 year old male Thai prostitutes wear ties in the 80's? Who knew?

    8. Re:No problem here... by sparrow_hawk · · Score: 1

      I work at a movie theater (i know, i know, the MPAA and all, but it was either that or McDonalds...) that doesn't believe in sequined uniforms, so I wear ties a fair bit. It's not really a big deal -- the only thing you really need to worry about is having your tie *too* *tight*, and oftentimes the shirt is more of the problem than the tie. Don't wear your dress shirt if the neck is too tight, buy shirts that let you breathe, and don't strangle yourself with your tie when you put it on in the morning!

    9. Re:No problem here... by sigep_ohio · · Score: 1

      I only wish I could wear sandals to work. Shoes fucking suck. All they do is make my feet uncomfortable. My toes need to feel fresh air around them.

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      Beer Die is the game of champions Learning To walk my own path.
    10. Re:No problem here... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      I'm back to no ties, thank goodness, but a year ago I was working for a major financial services company that still required everyone, engineers included, to wear suits to the office every day. We could take off our jackets while at our desk, but had to put them on if we rode the elevator. Keep in mind that none of us ever saw a customer, let alone had to meet with one. Even the guys whose job it was to hook up PCs and crawl around installing cables had to wear suits! What a ridiculous place - I wonder if anyone there will see this article.

    11. Re:No problem here... by Vengeful+weenie · · Score: 1

      Not if you're using an iBook.

    12. Re:No problem here... by akadruid · · Score: 1

      RTFA, you linked to it. It's a Dell Latitude.
      Good article though, I needed a laugh.

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      "Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything." (attrib. Joseph Stalin)
    13. Re:No problem here... by jsupreston · · Score: 1

      With my current job, I can't afford to buy clothes to wear, you insensitive clod!

      --
      "It's a dog eat dog world out there, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."- Norm (from Cheers)
    14. Re:No problem here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's just be honest, there are a lot of guys that telecommute that are wearing a ball gown or a tu-tu right now.

      Crazy.

      I personally prefer my Sailor Scout costume.

    15. Re:No problem here... by sharkdba · · Score: 1

      It would be interesting to find out what portion of /. readers where ties regularly...

      OK, repeat after me:

      where as in "what location",
      (to) wear as in "having clothes on",
      and were as in past "is" or "to be".

      so please try to be correct, how in heck would I understand this:

      Where were you yesterday in that wear?

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      The purpose of life is to find the purpose of life.
    16. Re:No problem here... by brodin · · Score: 1

      Not when I'm working with my soldering iron it isn't!

  8. Glaucoma huh? by RPI+Geek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hear that marijuana can cure glaucoma ... maybe that's another solution :)

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    - "Nobody came out that night, not one was ever seen. But Old Man Stauf is waiting there, crazy sick and mean!"
    1. Re:Glaucoma huh? by hetairoi · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd gladly wear a tie if they'd let me get high at work. Of course, at that point it would likely be a Grateful Dead tie worn around my head to keep my long, luxurious hippy hair out of my eyes.

      --
      you're all figments of my deranged imagination
    2. Re:Glaucoma huh? by supertsaar · · Score: 1

      You're right. See here though. Seems you have to smoke non-stop for it to work. Side effects may be worse than the glaucoma, if you know what I mean....

      --
      The Bigger The Headache The Bigger the Pill
    3. Re:Glaucoma huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I started gathering evidence to support that claim... but I've forgotten where I stored my data.

    4. Re:Glaucoma huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (To Flanders)

      "Hey, this guy does the best Flanders!"

    5. Re:Glaucoma huh? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      No, I don't.

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    6. Re:Glaucoma huh? by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      Eating forever and being a lazy slob.

      Oh wait... that's me... gotta go hide that hydro...

    7. Re:Glaucoma huh? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      And this is worse than blindess?

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  9. Just ask Mr. Mackey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    M' kay?

  10. Did you know... by Pinguu · · Score: 0, Funny

    masterbation can also make you go blind? The increased blood pressure again your eyes can pop blood vessels in your eyes!

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    1. Re:Did you know... by johndoejersey · · Score: 2, Funny

      it also helps prevent prostate cancer.

      who to believe?

    2. Re:Did you know... by Pinguu · · Score: 0

      Wow the moderators are fucking retards today!

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    3. Re:Did you know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe you should have posted your self-defense AC to avoid further damage to your karma. Your first comment was on-topic. Subsequent comments were not.

    4. Re:Did you know... by tkg · · Score: 1

      Given a choice between the two, I'd rather be blind than dead.

  11. only if it's too tight though... by buro9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... so providing you wear a looser necked shirt and tie... there's no reason to actually not wear a tie.

    not quite the strength of argument for me to bash my boss with health and safety law!

    1. Re:only if it's too tight though... by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's the amazing thing - the majority of guys don't really wear shirts that fit correctly. Either they just don't have the time/care to make sure, or vanity (this used to fit) gets in the way...

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    2. Re:only if it's too tight though... by bear_phillips · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are right. But can anyone answer this. Whenever I go to get a suit, the salesman always picks a shirt that seems to be way to tight in the neck. I have to basically tell him I don't care what size he thinks I need and get a larger neck size. Is having a tight fit around the neck considered in fashion?

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    3. Re:only if it's too tight though... by mjmalone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think we can all agree that anything that shortens your life/causes disease is in fashion.

    4. Re:only if it's too tight though... by larien · · Score: 1

      I've had the same. I get told I should be OK with something like a 16.5" collar, but I know I'm comfortable with 17.5" and nothing less. Took me a while to get that figured out, but I've been a lot more comfortable in shirts since.

    5. Re:only if it's too tight though... by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      Whenever I go to get a suit, the salesman always picks a shirt that seems to be way to tight in the neck. I have to basically tell him I don't care what size he thinks I need and get a larger neck size.

      Get yourself to Brooks Brothers. They'll take your measurements and find something comfortable.

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    6. Re:only if it's too tight though... by gte910h · · Score: 2, Informative

      They don't measure your neck properly. They have to measure it at the widest point that will touch the collar to be comfortable. And you also have to make your neck as large as it regularly get. Try doing things like inhaling with your mouth in the shape of an O and taking a deep breath while being measured, and telling him to move the tape measure down. All of a sudden, you get measurements that are .5-1.5 inches bigger than you may have been getting before (especially if you lift weights).

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    7. Re:only if it's too tight though... by JanneM · · Score: 1

      I have a problem with shirts. I have a pretty thick neck, so most shirts I look at won't fit. If the neck is wide enough, the arms are far too long. The only recourse would be dress shirts, but, frankly, I hate them. They are only white (=sweat stains galore after a whole day) or baby blue, and are made in, in my taste, way too flimsy material.

      I like shirts that use a thick, comfortable, material - heavy unsmoothed linen is fine, for example, or a _really_ heavy cotton weave. I also prefer darker, muted colors. But I seem unable to find such shirts with the neck width I need. Thus I use them, but unbuttoned, and without a tie.

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    8. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is very true. Speaking as a geek that worked retail to get throught college most guys wear ties too tight and shirts that are too tight around the neck.

      Do yourself a favor and take time to find and buy the right neck size.

    9. Re:only if it's too tight though... by KReilly · · Score: 1

      Mod him down! I was going to have my girlfriend read this post so she doesn't make me wear ties anymore. Pointing out flaws in logic is not helping my case

    10. Re:only if it's too tight though... by CyberKnet · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would pay to see/hear someone trying to say "Move the tape measure down" while they were inhaling. Let alone while their mouth was in the shape of an O. *Then* taking a deep breath.

      Calamity Ensues.

      P.S> If the measurements with the tape measure "down" are .5-1.5" bigger than your neck measurement, you either have a pencil neck or ....

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    11. Re:only if it's too tight though... by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      A good pima cotton (or linen) will hold up much better than it appears it should.

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    12. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, 'specially after smoking a little of that glaucoma required medication...

    13. Re:only if it's too tight though... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      yeah, its a bit like the breaking research that sticking a pencil up your nose *may* cause brain damage...

    14. Re:only if it's too tight though... by jmb-d · · Score: 2, Insightful

      there's no reason to actually not wear a tie.

      You misspelled something there -- the word "not" should be replaced by ^H^H^H.

      Hope this helps.

      I haven't worn a tie to work for more than 11 years. The last time I wore a tie for business purposes was for an interview that seemed to go well -- I was interested in the work, they seemed to be interested in me... The next morning I got a call from my headhuntress who told me that the company definitely like my qualifications, but that I "didn't fit their image; they wanted someone more clean-cut."

      For this interview, I had donned my suit, gotten a haircut (I kept my hair reasonably short (above the collar) at that time) and trimmed my beard (always kept reasonably short -- *not* an RMS-like thatch).

      I told her that I was certainly not interested in any company that was more concerned about my wardrobe than what I could do for them.

      My grooming (ponytail, neatly trimmed beard, small diamond stud earring in left ear) and wardrobe (typically polo or silk (or occasionally Aloha) shirt, jeans or Dockers, and moccasins hasn't been an issue for any of my employers in the intervening time. Go figure...

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      -- Yun-Men
    15. Re:only if it's too tight though... by soulsteal · · Score: 1

      Excellent! I knew contracting a tapeworm would pay off some day.

    16. Re:only if it's too tight though... by sparrow_hawk · · Score: 1

      Doesn't the thicker material make you sweat *more*?

      I must say I haven't had a problem with dress shirts wearing out, though I'm sure it depends on how much you use them. There are springed shirt button expanders that work pretty well on tighter shirts. Or you could find someone with sewing skills who would be willing to shorten the sleeves for you -- I shouldn't think they'd be *that* hard to find.

    17. Re:only if it's too tight though... by spells · · Score: 1

      Not vanity...CHEAP. The shirt fit when they bought it 6 years ago, but too much junk, not enough exercise.
      As long as they can still do up the top button, the shirt stays in the rotation.

    18. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Some+Dumbass... · · Score: 1

      Either they just don't have the time/care to make sure

      Remember, you're talking about _guys_ here. We just buy whatever's on the rack. Doubly so if it's on sale.

    19. Re:only if it's too tight though... by JanneM · · Score: 1

      It's not about wear and tear. The feel of the thin, flimsy cotton or linen in dress shirts literally makes my skin crawl. If find the feel vaguely repugnant. And no, a thick weave (and I mean a weave with thick strands) of the kind I like is fairly loose, so it lets through as much air (if not more) than the thin - but tight - weave of a dress shirt.

      And I have no problem finding shirts of the kind I like that fit otherwise. Sleeve length, width, shoulder play; all doable, except for the collar. The basic problem really is that while dress shirts are sold with various collar and arm sizes, these kind of shirts tend to be one-dimensionally sized - you get bigger collar, you get bigger everything else.

      Fortunately, I work in academia, where jeans and t-shirt is perfectly acceptable dress day-to-day dress. Have a shirt, and you're well dressed. Throw on a jacket, and people wonder if I'm due at a wedding or something :)

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    20. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell is Brooks Brothers?

    21. Re:only if it's too tight though... by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      I told her that I was certainly not interested in any company that was more concerned about my wardrobe than what I could do for them

      That's great, if you have the option of refusing a job. Some of us don't, or won't--I have a ponytail myself and fully expect to be asked to cut it after school when i'm looking for work--and i won't have the luxury of refusing and finding some other place

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    22. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a shitty men's clothier that pretends to be upscale and quality. Its SLIGHTLY less suck than Today's Man, but not much.

    23. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was no act of bravery or refusal. According to his story he only grew the balls to stand up to them after they had told him he didn't fit their image.

    24. Re:only if it's too tight though... by jmb-d · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's great, if you have the option of refusing a job. Some of us don't, or won't

      True that.

      I'd like to think that it's one of the perks of having 18 years of experience. Of course, I'm expensive enough that I've gotta start worrying about being replaced by a couple or three young pups willing to work for much less than I'd accept.

      "Dear Sirs: I must decline your offer of employment, since you have obviously misconstrued my salary requirements as thousands per year instead of dollars per hour."

      I have a ponytail myself and fully expect to be asked to cut it

      I guess then it's up to you what's more important: the fashion statement you make or the rent payment you make. That is not a slam -- it's a hard choice to make whether to make a stand on a personal matter like that. I have chosen my path; it works for me.

      --
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      -- Yun-Men
    25. Re:only if it's too tight though... by gte910h · · Score: 1

      My neck doesn't change measurements. Several of my friends who lift every other day however, and used to hold their breath had mismeasurement problems galore until they met a tailor at the gym one day who told them what I told you. One of them was off .5" the other moved up 3 halves to 1.5" more than his last measurement.

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    26. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that when they said down in quotes ("down") they were not referring to the base of a persons neck. Perhaps you should ponder where "down" might be... maybe "down" further than the shoulders... getting closer? Any idea at all?

    27. Re:only if it's too tight though... by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1

      Getting a tapeworm might be like putting yourself on a severely calorie-restricted diet - which would probably extend your lifespan quite a bit.

    28. Re:only if it's too tight though... by bestguruever · · Score: 1

      You misspelled something there -- the word "not" should be replaced by ^H^H^H.

      Did you mean appended by? else:
      there's no reason to actual wear a tie.

      Have we just found the cause of slashdot grammer?

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    29. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Li0n · · Score: 1

      what he meant was that even though he complied within reasonable limits to a "clean" image, they still wanted to go further, so they were obviously more concerned about his looks than about his work.

      Many companies have dress codes, but they still are decent places to work, because they focus on the work, on what makes the company money (making good products, or offering good services or whatever). When they get emphatic about appeareance for a position which is not actually affected in any way by how you dress (technical jobs come to mind), is when you know it's not really worth it to work for them.

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    30. Re:only if it's too tight though... by cduffy · · Score: 1

      Still depends where 'yer at. My last few jobs have been at startups, and neither has had a dress code of any sort (except for sales and other customer-facing staff); the one before that was at a car dealership, and while everyone *else* had a dress code, I (as the 1-man IT staff and maintainer of the huge, crufty old codebase for the app that ran their company) was effectively exempt. I understand some larger companies to be becoming a bit more lax also.

      So... don't give up on yer ponytail -- it may survive your professional employment after all.

    31. Re:only if it's too tight though... by stilwebm · · Score: 1

      In Tennessee and Texas, Wrangler® jeans are supposed to be worn with what I would consider a bad fit - that is, so tight you can expect a seriously reduced sperm count. It is so very unattractive.

    32. Re:only if it's too tight though... by rkent · · Score: 1

      You know, I'm not sure what position you were applying for, but if there's customer interaction, they may have a point. I mean come on. Suit and tie, pony tail, earring, and beard (even a neat trimmed one)? You look like a professional gambler or illicit diamond dealer. If skinny, add "heroin dealer" and "evil genius" to the list; if husky, add "mob enforcer" and "silent Bob," none of which are really "clean cut." And I haven't even met you!

      Man. Seriously. I think I'm going to start a little side-business, telling people what stereotypes they resemble, so at least they walk into an interview KNOWING.

    33. Re:only if it's too tight though... by sjames · · Score: 1

      That's great, if you have the option of refusing a job. Some of us don't, or won't

      Things can be difficult when the economy is tight.

      In general though, I have found that employers that are more worried about the their engineers fashion sense than their skillset tend to have many rotten habits that will make working for them hell.

      Your objective will be to deal with it as best as you can until your work experiance, seniority and/or the economy improve. Then go get a decent job with someone who has their priorities in order.

      In other words, take what you have to, but keep the resume circulating. Hopefully by the next down cycle, you'll be indispensible somewhere.

    34. Re:only if it's too tight though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not vanity, it cheapness. I only wear a dress shirt under duress and my belly grows about 1" a year. It just isn't worth the money or time to buy another shirt I won't wear for another 5 years.

      My t-shirts are another story. XL for comfort.

  12. Er... by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    Judging by the general clientele of slashdot, myself included, I'm hoping that this never comes to pass.

    Think of the co-workers, I tell you.

    Remember kids: Graphic, disturbing images can cause hysterical blindness.

    1. Re:Er... by tkg · · Score: 1

      and hysterical laughter can lead to ruptured blood vessels, stroke, and even death.

    2. Re:Er... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Homer: Yeah! Where are my pants?

      Marge: You threw them out the window in a fit of passion. You said you were never going to need them again.

    3. Re:Er... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather wear pants than the alternative.

      No, silly, I mean skirts and heels. You know, the female equivalent of suits and ties.

  13. Paid for by the Clinton Foundation by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set! "

    Researches funded by the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation are feverishly working on this one, don't worry.

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    Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
    1. Re:Paid for by the Clinton Foundation by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Studies have already linked tight fitting pants to a lack of sperm motility.

      So just tell your boss that wearing pants infringes on your right to reproduce. . .altough I can't say I recommend doing so on company time. Clinton might have some advice along that line.

      KFG

    2. Re:Paid for by the Clinton Foundation by iabervon · · Score: 1

      But the only pants you can really get tight enough to constrict (without ripping) are jeans, and the slashdot crowd would prefer to wear jeans to work...

      (What's with the Clinton jokes, anyway? Isn't he famous for having non-reproductive sex at work with his pants on?)

  14. Keep your pants on, Taco by seinman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nobody here wants to see that.

  15. Pants by nmg196 · · Score: 2, Funny

    > if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office

    Using the British definition of the word "pants" (underwear/briefs) this proposition seems EVEN LESS sensible!

    1. Re:Pants by clem · · Score: 1

      Using the British definition of the word "pants" (underwear/briefs) this proposition seems EVEN LESS sensible!

      So is this to say you've never gone commando?

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  16. Makes sense... by Dr.+Bent · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess this explains why most CEO's can't see past next quarter's earnings report. If only the corporate culture at Worldcom and Enron was a little bit more casual...

  17. Only in the Winter... by Necromutant · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bah! Pants in the office! Only in winter, dammit!

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    ~Necromutant
    1. Re:Only in the Winter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Bah! Pants in the office! Only in winter, dammit!


      Winter? What's that?

      AC in SD CA (and wears shorts year round)

  18. Obligatory Simpsons' quote by proverbialcow · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I hope he tells us to burn our pants, cause these things are really riding up on me."

    and later on...

    "Don't you hate pants?!"

    pcow

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    1. Re:Obligatory Simpsons' quote by i8urtaco · · Score: 2, Funny

      It is really really sad that I know which episode you're talking about only from a few lines. It's the one where Krusty becomes a stand up comic, right?

    2. Re:Obligatory Simpsons' quote by proverbialcow · · Score: 1

      You got it, man. I'd bow to your geekiness, but I know all the words to the Canyonero theme song.

      pcow

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    3. Re:Obligatory Simpsons' quote by i8urtaco · · Score: 1

      I would, but for some reason I have the Stonecutters theme song stuck in my head.
      Who makes Steve Guttenberg....A Star! We Do!

  19. Pants-optional office? by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    I don't think I'd mind wearing a kilt to work, though the wool would be kinda scratchy. And a bit warm, too, in Alabama's summer weather. Still, the US military services do have their own tartans, so it could even be considered "in uniform." :)

    --
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    1. Re:Pants-optional office? by radja · · Score: 1

      warm? probably cooler than pants or shorts. remember: a kilt should be worn without underwear.

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    2. Re:Pants-optional office? by arnie_apesacrappin · · Score: 1
      And if you're still hot, put a fan under your desk and point it at your chair. Cool and breezy all day.

      --

      Still, with a plan, you only get the best you can imagine. I'd always hoped for something better than that. -CP

    3. Re:Pants-optional office? by tim_uk · · Score: 1

      though the wool would be kinda scratchy

      So don't wear a wool one - go visit www.utilikilts.com and join the revolution.

      Tim (daily kilt-wearing geek)

    4. Re:Pants-optional office? by tim_uk · · Score: 1

      remember: a kilt should be worn without underwear

      Bullshit. Says who? Underwear is optional and this myth about going commando under a kilt to be a real kilt wearer is just that. A myth. In days of old, you wore a very long (kneelength) shirt with a kilt and coupled with the weight of several square yards of sheep-fat soaked wool, a BFO belt and several weapons this negated the need to wear any. Times have changed.

      Tim
      www.utilikilt.com - join the revolution

  20. Pantless Fridays! by HiredMan · · Score: 2, Funny
    I've been trying to start pantless Fridays at the office for quite some time...
    Hawaiian shirt Fridays is as far as I've gotten but it's just not the same.

    =tkk

    1. Re:Pantless Fridays! by proverbialcow · · Score: 1

      That's why you go out to Happy Hour with the folks from the office - you can usually convince one (preferably younger, attractive members) of the secretarial pool to go pantless with you for an hour or two.
      And if not, so what? You're drunk anyway.

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    2. Re:Pantless Fridays! by BobRooney · · Score: 1

      "mmm....yeah...this Friday is hawaiian shirt day, so if you want, go ahead and wear a hawaiian shirt and jeans..." - Quoth the Lumberg

    3. Re:Pantless Fridays! by LibertineR · · Score: 1
      you can usually convince one (preferably younger, attractive members) of the secretarial pool to go pantless with you for an hour or two.

      Yeah, but when she sobers up, and remembers that she hates your ass, the next morning she is crying in HR about how you date raped her ass; how she would NEVER take it up the ass were she sober, and that your ass should be fired. And YOU WILL BE.

      From an actual true story; I shit you not.

    4. Re:Pantless Fridays! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, do you have some sort of thing for the word "ass?"

    5. Re:Pantless Fridays! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, I don't care if they fire my ass, it's not that part that does the work. What kind of job do YOU do?

    6. Re:Pantless Fridays! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      If this becomes policy where I work, I'll have to throw out all this IT experience and move to Marketing.

      Naw, that's too evil. This policy cannot happen.

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    7. Re:Pantless Fridays! by HiredMan · · Score: 1

      Obl. Dilbert Reference:

      "Welcome to Marketing!"
      Two drink minimum.

    8. Re:Pantless Fridays! by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1
      i'm not the parent's poster, but...

      A preacher wanted to raise money for his church, and being told that there was a fortune in horse racing, decided to buy one and enter him in the races. However, at the local auction, the going price of a horse was so high that he bought a donkey instead. He figured that since he had it he might as well go ahead and enter it in the races, and to his surprise the donkey came in third. The next day, the racing sheets carried this headline:

      "PREACHER'S ASS SHOWS"
      The preacher was so pleased with the donkey that he entered it in the races again, and this time it won! The paper read:

      "PREACHER'S ASS OUT IN FRONT"
      The bishop was so upset with this publicity that he ordered the preacher not to enter his donkey in another race. The headlines read:

      "BISHOP SCRATCHES PREACHER'S ASS"
      This was too much for the bishop and he ordered the preacher to get rid of the animal. The preacher decided to give it to a nun in the nearby convent. The headlines read:

      "NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN"
      The bishop fainted! He informed the nun that she would have to dispose of the donkey. She finally found a farmer willing to buy him for $10. The paper read:

      "NUN PEDDLES ASS FOR TEN BUCKS"
      They buried the bishop the next day. The headline?:

      "NUN'S ASS KILLS BISHOP"

      source

      you see? no problem here... :)
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      i am not at it
      what a waste of ressources
  21. two things.... by garcia · · Score: 1

    First off, I heard this on the radio this morning, /. you are disappointing me (I also heard about the terrorism betting).

    Second, management in general needs to relax. Hopefully the tightness around their necks causes glaucoma and because there are entirely too many managers out there, this will force the legalization of medical marijuana and and end to the pressure of glaucoma! :)

  22. uhoh by falconed · · Score: 5, Funny
    let's see... wearing a tie makes you go blind...

    *takes off his belt*

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    1. Re:uhoh by Malicious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Haven't you heard? Putting your hands down there can also make you go blind.

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    2. Re:uhoh by jcsehak · · Score: 1

      Well, generally, if a couple's trying to get pregnant, it's recommended that the guy wear boxers, right? Doesn't keep the berries all scrunched up in there - apparently too much heat kills sperm. So if that's true, then for maximum potency, it's best to walk around pantless, since pants provide some insulation, right? So you could argue that pants promote impotency...

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    3. Re:uhoh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      impotency != infertility

    4. Re:uhoh by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      ? So you could argue that pants promote impotency

      No, pants can promote infertility, which is NOT the same thing as impotence. Infertility is a problem with sperm cells, while impotence is a "general equipment failure".

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    5. Re:uhoh by oever · · Score: 1

      Putting your hands down there can also make you go blind.

      But at least you will have a smaller risk of getting prostate cancer.

      --
      DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
    6. Re:uhoh by jcsehak · · Score: 1

      No, you see, if a guy's infertile, then his self-confidence is way down, and studies show...

      Okay, fine. I made a mistake and mixed up the words. I'll admit to it.

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    7. Re:uhoh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not the first. A friend of mine was visiting one time, had a bit much to drink, and we were talking about old times. He said something like, "I swear, with all the times I did stupid things back then, it's a miracle I don't have any kids. I guess I must be impotent!"

      When I pointed out that had he been impotent, he wouldn't have been able to do the stupid things in the first place, it took him a few minutes to figure it out, then he laughed and laughed, until he puked.

    8. Re:uhoh by stupidsocialscientis · · Score: 1

      you know it is mighty "big" of you guys to admit your errors. something that would be "hard" to achieve, were either of you impotent.

      --
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    9. Re:uhoh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But would it be offset by increased risk of testicular cancer? Hear me out - if you're doing that, you're making cells divide much more often in your testes to make new spermatozoa - and each time a cell divides, there is opportunity for mistakes.

    10. Re:uhoh by jcsehak · · Score: 1

      then he laughed and laughed, until he puked

      Ahh, the good ol' days...

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    11. Re:uhoh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you are constantly producing new spermatozoa. They have to be released often. If the pressure in your balls becomes too high, they may explode.

    12. Re:uhoh by i8urtaco · · Score: 1

      *takes off his belt*

      *goes even blinder*

    13. Re:uhoh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...that happens to me sometimes. -- GIR

    14. Re:uhoh by etcpasswd · · Score: 1

      *wears tie too tight* I wish I were blind NOW.

    15. Re:uhoh by Tokerat · · Score: 1


      If you're theory is true, that would mean that straightening your tie by yourself makes you go blind quicker.

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  23. Funny.... by whiteranger99x · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    I find that funny for CmdrTaco to say that, given his sig says "Pants are still optional, but recommended for you."

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    1. Re:Funny.... by pclminion · · Score: 2, Funny

      Gee, do you think he possibly planned that? Sheesh.

  24. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  25. No Pants? No Problem!!! by smcdow · · Score: 1
    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    When that happens, you'll be all set.

    --
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    1. Re:No Pants? No Problem!!! by dlur · · Score: 1

      Those are some freaking expensive kilts. $115 for a standard kilt and $25 more for a 'beer gut cut'. Geesh! I'd rather just go commando.

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    2. Re:No Pants? No Problem!!! by bobKali · · Score: 1

      I dunno where you've been looking, but $115 sound damn cheap to me compared to what I've been able to find of more traditional kilts (running say 3 to 4 times as much.)

      Of course they were pretty damn fugly.

    3. Re:No Pants? No Problem!!! by tim_uk · · Score: 1

      freaking expensive
      No they aren't! Where do you buy yours from? Trad kilts can cost up to a grand - so $115 is a bloody bargain.
      commando
      What as in naked from the waist down? Do you like prison food?

      Tim
      www.utilikilt.com - come join the revolution

    4. Re:No Pants? No Problem!!! by dlur · · Score: 1

      Oh, I guess i didn't compare them to other kilt pricing, I was going against the $19 I pay for my khakis at JC Penny on sale.

      I buy them cheap and decorate them with elaborate toner spills and ink pen leaks. Sometimes I even get electrolyte fluid on a leg or maybe even battery acid of some sort. They're so much more fun to wear when they are eternally stained.

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    5. Re:No Pants? No Problem!!! by dlur · · Score: 1

      I don't actually own any kilts. Remember, I'm just a poor IT worker. All I can afford is $19 knock-off Docker khakis. If a traditional kilt costs $1k then yeah $115 is a steal, but still expensive when compared to how cheaply you can buy khakis or slacks.

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  26. Ooh! Free negation of badness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Soo.. since I wear no tie, I have in practice "negated" the blinding effect of masturbation?!

    Or was that... <checks palms>

    1. Re:Ooh! Free negation of badness? by StalinJoe · · Score: 1

      I was just moderating comments, and at first, I misread the extra-large text "Moderating..." as "Masturbating..."

      I couldn't for the life of me figure out why /. was masturbating. Nor precisely how a web server would actually do that.

      Maybe it's the tie I'm wearing right now...

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      "Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything." - Josef Stalin
  27. New disclaimer on ties... by KarmaPolice · · Score: 2, Funny

    Warning: Wearing a tie while masturbating will double your chances of going blind...

    1. Re:New disclaimer on ties... by cavemanf16 · · Score: 1

      No, it'll just give you hairy eyeballs. Haven't you ever wondered about that unmarried unibrow guy in the office from time to time?

  28. This is silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This story is to silly for me to troll. NEXT!

    Apple OS-X : The arrogance of *BSD, yet with the gayness of *pple!

  29. Wearing a dress at work freaks my cow-orkers by jot445 · · Score: 1

    No pants? Nah. I find wearing a dress at works really freaks my cow-orkers out.

    The names are the same but the gender has been changed to protect the innocent.

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    1. Re:Wearing a dress at work freaks my cow-orkers by bsDaemon · · Score: 4, Funny

      what does cow orking entail, anyway? it sounds rather naughty.

    2. Re:Wearing a dress at work freaks my cow-orkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cow orking entails the tail end.

    3. Re:Wearing a dress at work freaks my cow-orkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's quite similar to Muffin the Mule (http://www.muffin-the-mule.com/)

  30. Dress code by kongjie · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Currently I'm unemployed by choice. I'll bet this sounds stupid, but one of the reasons I'm reluctant to pursue my former career path (higher education administration) is that a jacket and tie are usually required dress.

    One on hand it's no big deal, but on the other I really, really would prefer to wear khakis and a short sleeve button-down or polo shirt. I hate having to dress up! At my last job I gradually downshifted my dress code but that took a couple of years of inculcating my bosses to the change. It's going to be a bummer to start over again.

    1. Re:Dress code by danny256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Currently I'm unemployed by choice.

      Right, right, I bet you also don't have a girlfriend by choice.

    2. Re:Dress code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you kinda know those things going into the game. dress code, hours, general salary range, working conditions, etc. every job has it's general required attire, just some are more fitting than others. in the IT industry, khaki's and polo is very common, but suit/tie is also still around. jeans/tshirts can be easily had also, but not quite as often.

  31. This just in! by nuwayser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Keeping Your Pants On Curbs Population Growth!

    Wearing Wedding Rings Makes Fingers Fall Off!

    Squeezing Stress Balls May Aggrevate Repetitive Stress Disorders!

    Cleaning Your Keyboard Can Extend Your Lifespan!

    Wearing Dress Shoes Sucks!

    Reading Slashdot Constantly Can Lead To Blindness!

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    1. Re:This just in! by TamMan2000 · · Score: 1

      Reading Slashdot Constantly Can Lead To Blindness!

      I have heard that other websites are much more likely to lead to vision impairing behavior...

      --
      "I'll have a Guinness, no wait, make that a Coors Light" -Grad student I work with, who shall remain anonymous...
    2. Re:This just in! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading Slashdot Constantly Can Lead To Blindness!

      Only the games section

    3. Re:This just in! by garcia · · Score: 1

      Reading Slashdot Constantly Can Lead To Blindness!

      Reading The Hun that causes Blindness... Reading /. just makes you an anti-MS zealot (perhaps that is a type of blindness ;))

    4. Re:This just in! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Reading Slashdot Constantly Can Lead To Blindness!

      That wood explane all the pore spailing and grammor hear.

    5. Re:This just in! by james_gnz · · Score: 1
      Keeping Your Pants On Curbs Population Growth!

      As you say, there has been a link suggested between the use of modern warm, well fitting underpants/pants, and an increased rate of stirility in men in developed nations.

      It has been hypothesised that testies require a slightly lower temperature (by about 2 degrees Celcius) than the average body temperature, in order to function properly. Also tight fitting lower garments can reduce fertility in men.

      Clearly, this indicates that for our own good, us men should wear skirts instead of pants. Don't worry about what to do with all those pants though, the women can wear them.

      Wearing Dress Shoes Sucks!

      Yes, yes it does.

  32. ObPennyArcade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am the King of No Pants!

  33. History of Neckties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    http://www.neckties.com/history.htm

    Damned French and their flamboyant monarchs!

  34. Pants are the problem... by bigBrains · · Score: 1

    The real problem in today's workforce is underwear. Just say no to Tighty Whities.

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    be well David Grosman
    1. Re:Pants are the problem... by ChristTrekker · · Score: 3, Funny
      Just say no to Tighty Whities.

      You are advocating thongs, then?

    2. Re:Pants are the problem... by troc · · Score: 1

      Just think of all those Aussies who wear thongs on their feet.........

      Or, for all you Aussies, imagine where everyone else puts their thongs.

      ooh, matron

      Troc

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    3. Re:Pants are the problem... by bigBrains · · Score: 1

      No underware. Let the boys run free.

      --
      be well David Grosman
  35. Small point but .. by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Interesting
    .. wearing anything too tight can damage you in some way.

    This is possibly one of the most useless bits of "research" for a while and i'm amazed it didn't come out of a UK university.

    My old Uni announced to a great fanfare that they had provded that "the smell of food made people hungry". Another one was that "people look fatter on television than they really are".

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    1. Re:Small point but .. by aug24 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Shit, somethinging something too something is by definition bad! That's what the word 'too' is all about.

      J.

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    2. Re:Small point but .. by browman · · Score: 1
      --
      You fool! You've given cheese to a lactose intolerant volcano god! Do you know what that means?
    3. Re:Small point but .. by JimPooley · · Score: 1

      Another one was that "people look fatter on television than they really are".

      No, they were just watching a regular 4:3 format TV programme with their television set on "Wide"...

      --

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    4. Re:Small point but .. by Rinikusu · · Score: 2, Funny

      From my photographer friend:
      "It's not the film that makes you look fat. It's the fat that makes you look fat."

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      If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
    5. Re:Small point but .. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      wearing anything too tight can damage you in some way.

      "Sperm motility is also affected by temperature. If the testicles are too warm, the sperm motility and possibly the sperm count may be reduced. Increased scrotal temperature may be caused by use of waterbeds, hot tubs and saunas, as well as wearing tight underwear and tight pants."

      From:
      http://www.stronghealth.com/services/womenshealt h/ ivf/infoseekers/infertilitymen.cfm

      Why it is under the "women's health" section, I don't know.

  36. Pants-free working place, a casual wear? by Bostik · · Score: 3, Funny

    Casual friday all week long?

    I could live with that...

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    1. Re:Pants-free working place, a casual wear? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I was thinking of this...

  37. Also by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Women wearing shirts and bras will get breast cancer. Please consider removing them ASAP to help cure cancer!

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    Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.

    1. Re:Also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and women not wearing bras will have thier boobs down by their ankles by thier mid-30's...

    2. Re:Also by geekoid · · Score: 1

      ...looks around at some of his coworkers...

      dear god, don't say that!

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    3. Re:Also by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Who cares about the 30 years olds? Think of the interns man!

      --

      Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.

    4. Re:Also by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 1

      But then they'll get skin cancer.

      You just can't win.

    5. Re:Also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But only if you are younger than 30, and have a B cup or larger, with a chest between 34 and 38.

    6. Re:Also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please consider removing them ASAP

      I DO consider it, roughly every six seconds.

  38. Get a decent one by shplorb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I recently purchased myself a suit, it is properly fitted for me. Consequently it is very comfortable to wear and I enjoy wearing it with a tie. Another advantage is that girls like men in suits. =]

    One thing that I have found is that the combination of the shirt collar and tie encourage me to sit with correct posture, otherwise I can feel them cutting into my throat. This is a good thing.

    Of course, you could always wear a 'clip-on' tie or bow-tie (how come I only see doctors wear them?) which also have certain personal safety benefits - like not having to worry about being killed/maimed if it gets caught in a shredder =]

    1. Re:Get a decent one by pclminion · · Score: 5, Funny
      I don't see how "very comfortable to wear" and "feel them cutting into my throat" are compatible statements.

      I'm just glad management wears ties. It's something to strangle the fuckers with if I see the need.

    2. Re:Get a decent one by Tragedy4u · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought cutting off oxygen to the brain was standard policy for all managers.

    3. Re:Get a decent one by gte910h · · Score: 1

      My doc when I was a kid said he didn't want a normal tie to dip into anything. As an adult, I can appreciate that, especially what a doctor can accidentally dip into.

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    4. Re:Get a decent one by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      "Honest, Detective, his tie somehow got caught in the chipper..." Management should definitely be required to wear ties. Convenient excuses for the rest of us.

    5. Re:Get a decent one by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 1

      The only people that can get away with wearing clip-on ties are police officers, and for obvious reasons -- having a leash that someone can grab is a Bad Idea in a combat situation. See the most recent Matrix film for details.

      I completely agree that a well-fitted suit is a joy; it's comfortable, stylish, and women definitely appreciate a man who can dress himself for whatever the occasion might demand -- you're not likely to keep a girlfriend who asks you to show up to a black-tie affair, and you arrive in jeans. Likewise, you stand a much better chance of winning a job in an interview by looking good; it shows that you are professional, dedicated, and that you care about the position for which you are interviewing.

      If you hate ties, that's fine; get some stylish turtleneck and crewneck sweaters and shirts -- they're still business casual, and still look great with a decently cut sportcoat.

      Oh, and finally, EXERCISE. Suits look best on men that are fit; you don't need a Calvin Klein body, but a suit *will* show off a gut (a little belly-pudge is fine, though), and will likewise drape like a tent around skinny, underused arms and legs. I'm convinced that many people hate wearing suits for this reason -- because they're too out-of-shape to properly wear formal attire.

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    6. Re:Get a decent one by whatch+durrin · · Score: 1
      Actually, I think suits make the overweight look better than if they wear casual clothing (assuming the suit fits correctly).

      Obviously, anyone that is in shape will look better, relatively speaking, than someone that is not in shape.

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    7. Re:Get a decent one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      you're not likely to keep a girlfriend who asks you to show up to a black-tie affair, and you arrive in jeans.
      Yeah, but who wants to keep the kind of girlfriend who asks you to show up at black-tie affairs?

      Some things just aren't worth the price. A pussy attached to a stuck-up pretentious bitch may feel good, but not any better than one attached to a chick who has a real life that isn't based upon deception.

    8. Re:Get a decent one by AMuse · · Score: 1

      Of course, you could always wear a 'clip-on' tie or bow-tie (how come I only see doctors wear them?)

      Most doctors that wear ties at all wear boe-ties because a long tie can a) Get in the way all the time, and b) Brush against patients' body fluids easily and carry infection to the next patient down the line.

      Same reason you won't find EMTs and Paramedics wearing ties at all -- infection risk and generally getting in the way of stuff.

    9. Re:Get a decent one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another advantage is that girls like men in suits

      Especially the ones who only like you for the size of your stock portfolio...

    10. Re:Get a decent one by Tokerat · · Score: 1


      That explains Congress.

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    11. Re:Get a decent one by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      I'm convinced that many people hate wearing suits for this reason -- because they're too out-of-shape to properly wear formal attire.

      Actually, we (men) hate wearing it because it's largely unfunctional. The same reason that tomboys don't like being forced to wear skirts; hampers what they can do.

      Of course, just like my tomboy wife, I don't mind dressing up every now and then.

  39. Between Masterbating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and wearing ties.... I'm doomed.

  40. What about a shirt? by Duketape · · Score: 0

    A shirt with tied upper stud, wouldn't do that the same? For me a good reason, to show my breasthair to the women.

  41. Choking by eddie+can+read · · Score: 2, Funny

    Insert joke about choking your ___ leading to blindness.

    1. Re:Choking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      cock.

      Burping the worm.
      Shaking hands with the governor.
      A quick one off the wrist.
      A wank.
      Banging the bishop.
      Polishing wood.

      etc.

  42. So you're telling me by YoungFelon · · Score: 1

    That's why I can't see the wrinkles in my shirt but everyone else notices?

  43. Ugly co-workers by Tragedy4u · · Score: 1

    Some of my fellow IT co-workers are so hideous I'd almost PREFER to go blind, bring on the ties!

    1. Re:Ugly co-workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROTFL, you should tell them that!

    2. Re:Ugly co-workers by Tragedy4u · · Score: 1

      Lets face it, lots of IT workers don't exactly put that much effort into their appearance. Ever met a hot female Unix admin? They're a rare breed.

  44. The good things to come from science by funkdancer · · Score: 2, Funny

    We can now 'fight the cancer' AND leave our ties at home, thanks to recent research. As for speculation on going blind in the process, no fear - simply take that tie off and there's balance in the world!

    Brilliant. Love it when old prejudices are, ahum, beaten off.

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  45. and this is bad because... by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 1
    Such pressure rises have been linked to glaucoma..

    Yeah, that's what I have officer, glaucoma from wearing this tie. Can you give me back my medicine now?

  46. Dress code = Lawsuit! by LibertineR · · Score: 1
    Oh man, I can see it now; Every geek who wants to go without a tie or does not want to wear shoes, or who thinks that washing their ass should be optional, is going to extrapolate shit like this into claims of a hazardous workplace environment.

    "Shoes are bad for my back, and for that matter, my toes need to BREATHE"

    "Deodorant is toxic poison, you cant make me use it, and you cant fire me for what occurs natually in nature; I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!"

    "Did you take my red stapler, asshole?"

    Yep, this is great news.

    1. Re:Dress code = Lawsuit! by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      "Deodorant is toxic poison, you cant make me use it, and you cant fire me for what occurs natually in nature; I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!"

      Surely you've heard of Tom's of Maine deodorant with all-natural ingredients and no nasty chemicals? Or Naturally Fresh deodorant crystal, again with no harmful chemicals or aluminum? I won't use anything but those two.

    2. Re:Dress code = Lawsuit! by LibertineR · · Score: 1

      Of course, but that wont stop my lawsuit, bucko!

    3. Re:Dress code = Lawsuit! by The+Troll+Catcher · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing you must be pretty stinky if you use that deodorant crystal. My former roommate uses that thing, and it doesn't work AT ALL. You might as well just rub your pits with rose petals, it will work about as well.

    4. Re:Dress code = Lawsuit! by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I have the liquid roll-on version and have never used the solid. IMO it works better than regular deodorants and it lasts *all day* and into the evening with no odor whatsoever. My fiance recently introduced me to it and I'm amazed at how well it works. $3 a bottle but worth every penny!

  47. Welding causes blindness ... by adzoox · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not ties that cause blindness ... it's people doing stupid stuff that causes blindness. Welding without a welder's mask can cause blindness ... read that doesn't say WELDING causes blindness. The article may have been written by someone (or ispired) that was fired from a tie factory! Don't wear a tie or a shirt that doesn't fit you ... don't worry about it. Same analogy: is McDonald's making people fat or are obese eaters making themselves fat?

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  48. 40 people tested by Siroj_Grebnednav · · Score: 1

    is hardly significant.

  49. Be careful what you wish for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid bosses. My boss is so concerned with this report that he has banned ties in the office. To maintain a professional appearance he has ordered each of us a wear pair of patriotic American flag eye spikes.

  50. Programmer uniform by BobRooney · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is why I love being a programmer at a little company: my "corporate uniform" typically includes a hawaiian(sp?) shirt, shorts, and sandals (with or without socks). The more tacky the shirt the better; it screams "I sit in front of a computer all day and I love it!"...unfortunately it also screams "I'm single and have no burning desire to attract women". On occasion you'll be suprised and women won't run away screaming upon seeing your tacky polyester hawaiian shirt...

    1. Re:Programmer uniform by Shinobi · · Score: 1

      I've been wearing all kinds of clothes to work... At a small place, when we were getting close to a deadline, I was often working 16 hour days.... I kinda surprised my coworkers and bosses when I came to work and changed into satin pyjama trousers.

      Or when I was a network admin at a school... Tight-fitting leather trousers, PVC+fishnet shirt, goretex police boots....

    2. Re:Programmer uniform by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      On occasion you'll be suprised and women won't run away screaming upon seeing your tacky polyester hawaiian shirt...

      Yup. Some of them just point and laugh.

  51. So get a bigger collar size by mblase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Wearing your tie too tight could put you at increased risk of blindness, say doctors."

    So buy some shirts with an extra half-inch in the collar, guys.

    Y'know, current trends in fashion notwithstanding, I like neckties. They break up an otherwise monotonous dress shirt, and give us white-collar male workers an easy way to add some multi-colored style to our two-color uniform. They just plain look professional. And they're only uncomfortable if you're wearing them wrong, or if your collar is too small.

    1. Re:So get a bigger collar size by (trb001) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, in some ways I agree. I enjoy wearing ties to semi-formal occasions as I feel it fits the event, but I wouldn't choose to just sit around the house in one. That's the problem I have with wearing them to work...there's really not a big difference between a developer sitting in his cube hacking out code and me sitting around the house watching tv. Whatever makes you comfortable is the way to go, so if you're comfortable sitting straight up, go for it...not me though.

      --trb

    2. Re:So get a bigger collar size by CynicTheHedgehog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Side note to this: a half-windsor may take a little longer to tie, but it's a hell of a lot more comortable then a simple knot (and looks better too).

    3. Re:So get a bigger collar size by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, if a tie's good enough for Neo to sit around and code with, it's good enough for YOU. :)

  52. This is worth the karma... by i8urtaco · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd hate to see what would happen to your eyesight if you masturbated with a tie on!

    Thank you, thank you. Drive safely and make sure to tip your waitress.

  53. You can't blame belts... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

    for your impotence.

    Especially when you've have PLENTY of chances to buy cheap Viagra! :)

  54. Next On the List?? by jetkust · · Score: 1

    Shirt tucking, and dress shoes. I never had to wear a tie anyway, except for a long time ago at a grocery store.

  55. Power to the people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, down with pants! Up with skirts! w00t!

  56. Teddy Ballgame was ahead of his time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Baseball legend Ted Williams always refused to wear a tie. His hitting prowess is largely attributed to his exceedingly keen eyesight.

  57. Pants, Ties, Polo shirts etc... by Dukebytes · · Score: 3, Insightful
    i agree with Taco - by saying "pants" im sure he means "slacks, or dockers etc...". i HATE pants - the company that i work for allows colored jeans and polo shirts. i wear (dont laugh) black jeans to work every day...

    i think that the IT industry should come up with a dress code that actually lets you crawl around on the floor under a desk etc... that makes some stinkin sense.

    a T-shirt, jeans, sneakers and some sort of smock or whatever its called. Like the ones that they wear in the hospitals etc... and they would have to be nice jeans and sneakers. not the shit you have left over from high school with your ass sticking out and sneakers that are no longer the original color that they were purchased as...

    and im SERIOUS!!! i think that this should become a norm... i hate being in the data center and working on the UPS or racks or up in the ceiling with light colored polo shirt on that i spent 30 bucks for. when im done - its done. im sure this has happened to everyone. it pisses me off. the wife bitches that she cant get it clean etc...

    and i dont care if its "professional" or not. im a "professional" no matter what im wearing - and wouldnt it be nice if you could be comfortable all the time???

    /rant off... sorry i get a little wired when i talk about workplace clothing... :)

    duke

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    1. Re:Pants, Ties, Polo shirts etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i wear (dont laugh) black jeans to work every day...

      Sorry - can't help it.

  58. Management by scsirob · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now here's a *perfect* explanation why management 'suits' are blind to real life ;-)

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  59. Ties cause glaucoma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC, the original use of the tie was to allow the general public to hang their public (tie-wearing) servants if the said servant fucked things up.

    I'd like to see this usage coming back into common use. I can think of whole herds of people (lawyers, accuntants) that this would be good for keeping in line.

    Hang them by their ties. Who cares about glaucoma?

  60. The race is on! by sciper · · Score: 1

    The ambulance chasers are prepping for launch!

  61. acursed editors! by pohl · · Score: 1
    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    Now isn't that just like the slashdot editors...always have to put in some snarky comment to take a dig at the company that won't let you go pantless. You call this journalism!?

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  62. Great Scott.... by ryanvm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    As this time-travelling picture from the year 2006 shows, the pantsless office policy at Slashdot was not such a great idea.

  63. pants pot? what? by Jonsey · · Score: 1

    If you've heard your Denis Leary, you'd know...

    Ties leads to Glaucoma.
    Glaucoma leads to Pot (Yeah, yeah, cataracts, whatever)
    Pot leads to other drugs... Other drugs? Hell with that
    Pot leads to farking Carpentry! Hey, man, I betcha I could make a bong outta that orange, three matches, and John Denver.

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    1. Re:pants pot? what? by Pflipp · · Score: 1

      Being a little more clearer, but probably also trying to explain what the parent tried to explain:

      Researchers (guess where) have found that smoking pot is a cure to the disease mentioned here, which is at least having a genetic cause to some people. I saw a documentary once on TV about an American doctor (I guess) whose behavior in the military has kept him from becoming blind like most of his family. That guy is now doing some research in the Netherlands on this topic. (Because his fatherland rather has him going blind than smoking pot; he's been treated really lame out there according to his story.)

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    2. Re:pants pot? what? by flyneye · · Score: 1

      actually i've been doing my own private research into this disease and cure.I'll just keep smoking and if i never get glaucoma,it will be a sucsess!
      You too can aid in my research,I accept private funding and donation of materials.Thank You,and with your support we can wipe out glaucoma in little more than my lifetime.

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  64. The requested pants justification... by rkischuk · · Score: 1

    From http://sivasakti.com/articles/man/virility-art62.h tml, we can make the same flawed argument.

    "7. Do tight pants prevent the secretion of sperm?
    Yes. Tight pants keep the testicles close to the rest of the body and thus their temperature rises. The temperature of the testicles should normally be 2 degrees below the temperature of the rest of the body in order for the sperm to be produced."

    So pants cause impotence. Alternately, people could learn to wear pants that fit, and to tie their ties a little looser.

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  65. Decisions, Decisions... by tds67 · · Score: 1
    Doctors have found that wearing a tie too tight causes pressure on the jugular vein, which leads to a build-up of pressure in the eyeballs.

    So one has but two options: Loosen the damn tie so you don't walk around all pop-eyed, or smoke marijuana to relieve the bulgy eyes.

  66. PANTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    CmdrTaco, you work at home, not the office.


    Nice try poser. Maybe you should have mentioned cubicles and minimum wages.

  67. Slashdot Blindness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I think we all know the most common cause of blindness among the Slashdot crowd. hint, hint, nudge, nudge, knowhatimean...

  68. The worst kind of tie by xyloplax · · Score: 0

    I hear that Colombian Neckties are the worst for you.

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  69. Re:wearing pants? by Coward+the+Anonymous · · Score: 1

    "I thought the IT "dress" of the 90's is jeans and t-shirt... i even interviewed for my current job in jeans and tshirt."

    At my current job the dresscode is "as long as your privates are covered" and it applies to everyone, not just IT. The perks of a small company.

    But you are quite a brave man going to an interview in jeans and a t-shirt. I would always dress up for an interview, even if I was applying for garbage man or mechanic.

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  70. Girls, Girls, Girls.......... by MeThOdXxX · · Score: 1

    In my workplace I happen to be surrounded by 100's of attractive women......so I say "OFF WITH THE PANTS DAMMIT".

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    1. Re:Girls, Girls, Girls.......... by Pinguu · · Score: 0

      In my workplace I happen to be surrounded by 100's of attractive women
      So you work on the internet?

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  71. Wow ! 111 comments and counting... by jxliv7 · · Score: 1

    This has to be important to the average /. reader, considering how fast the comments rolled in. Seriously.

  72. Blindness?!?!? by johnkoer · · Score: 1

    From what I have heard it can also cause hair to grow on your palms... no wait a minute that is something else.... nevermind.

  73. Re:wearing pants? by IANAAC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think in general, dress-code has relaxed everywhere. When I was a kid my dad worked for an airline, which meant we could fly basically free. The catch was that we could not wear jeans. We had to wear slacks. Boy has THAT rule been relaxed. I look at what people wear on a plane now and think all americans are slobs. I've seen bathing suits and flip-flops on international flights. I realize when we travel we want to be comfortable, but it would be nice to have a happy medium. We're not in our living room, after all... we're out in public.

  74. First masturbation, now this! by elliotj · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geez, is there anything I can do that doesn't make me go blind!?!

    1. Re:First masturbation, now this! by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      yeah, and according to that other article, we're going to have a superrace of men that are blind but will never die of prostate cancer..

    2. Re:First masturbation, now this! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, you better get that still out of your bathtub then...

      Damn... that fills in the second step on my business plan!

      1. Distill hooch
      2. Go blind (formerly ???)
      3. Profit!!

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    3. Re:First masturbation, now this! by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      News flash: you go blind twice as fast with auto-erotic asphysiation (using a tie of course).

    4. Re:First masturbation, now this! by wayward_son · · Score: 2, Funny

      Scene: Dad catches his son masturbating.

      Dad: Stop, or you'll go blind!

      Son: Dad, I'm over here.

    5. Re:First masturbation, now this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently wearing a tie around your d!ck counteracts that effect.

  75. No Pants by HedRat · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have to admit, I truly enjoyed "No Pants Funday" at the office. Oddly enough, the cops called it "Thursday".

  76. Re:wearing pants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, please post a picture of you in a good formal dress! we'd love to see! LOL

    Sorry couldn't resist that one!

  77. it's not the ties, stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think it's ties that everyone here should be worried about... it's the OTHER way to go blind that /.'ers should be concerned about.

  78. This among many other things.... by Penguin2212 · · Score: 1

    Just like everything else, there's something new every day that could cause bliness, cancer, sterility, heard disease, stroke or anything else from a whole myriad of health problemns. And no, I think banning pants would be a very bad idea. I mean, look where it got our former president, Bill Clinton.

  79. Off with the pants.......... by MeThOdXxX · · Score: 1

    In my present workplace I happen to be surrounded by 100's of attractive women.........So i say "off with pants"!!!

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  80. pants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    no pants on taco = quicker anal entry for michael!

  81. Re:wearing pants? by hyperstation · · Score: 1

    i got niced up for the interview at my current job, and kinda got the idea that there was a dress code. on my first day, i dressed nicely, then found that comfort is king. so now i'm in the shirt i slept in, corduroy pants and sandals :).

    having to dress a certain way or being comfortable definitely affects one's job performance and satisfaction, i think...

  82. some more compelling science by corrosiv · · Score: 1


    there's no reason any educated person should be tying a knot around his neck, and i wouldn't work for an employer who respected me so little as to not allow me to dress comfortably.

    and i'd like to add another vote for the high at work campaign

    1. Re:some more compelling science by jbottero · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well then, I suppose when you get downsized, you'll put that on your resume, and shortly there after start learning your GNU tools, the GNU/fry basket. There's not that much wrong with ties if you like to look sharp and feel sharp, and really, you can have fun with them. I own 20 or 30 fine silk jobbies, myself. No problems. When it comes time to cut staff, the fat slob in the next office will be top on the list. Look like crap == feel like crap == work like crap.

    2. Re:some more compelling science by jbottero · · Score: 1

      I wish to appologize for the previous post, "fat" should not have been linked with "slob". It should not be inferred that over weight people are all automatically slobs. Honestly, sorry 'bout that...

    3. Re:some more compelling science by corrosiv · · Score: 1


      conformist == sheep == ideal consumer

      Looking like crap is highly subjective, and uniforms are apex of looking like crap my friend. Vanity in men is VERY distasteful and quite paradoxical, seeing as how you choose to assert your masculinity through decorating yourself. Just because GQ told you what to wear, you don't have to take it out on me :)

      I wouldn't call daily changing of a mere 24 sqare inches of your uniform "having fun with it." I'd phrase it more like "a Star Wars tie is all the creativity I have left - I can't wait to get into sales!" I'll continue to hack with 20 billion in the bank and you can worry about how to include your appearance with your skills on your next resume.

    4. Re:some more compelling science by jbottero · · Score: 1

      "Looking like crap is highly subjective"

      No, it's not, unless you are trying to justify being a slob, or live in some strange parallel universe. And, your ugly tee shirt with some stupid quote is just as much a "uniform" as my ties.

      Fortunately for me, my "uniform" is fun to ware and socially acceptable. I love my ties, I think the look sharp and some are quite fun, like my Jerry Garcia numbers.

    5. Re:some more compelling science by jbottero · · Score: 1

      I'll continue to hack with 20 billion in the bank and you can worry about how to include your appearance with your skills on your next resume.

      And by the way, you are full of shit

    6. Re:some more compelling science by corrosiv · · Score: 1


      you'll note that I didn't even say what I wear every day and you've already made 2 or 3 assumptions about my slobbishness.

      I hope Jerry didn't hear you or he'd roll over in his grave.

    7. Re:some more compelling science by corrosiv · · Score: 1


      when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME

      when you voice that assumption with "you are full of shit" you simply make an ASS out of U

      remember Jerry

    8. Re:some more compelling science by jbottero · · Score: 1

      OK, fine Mr. "I make 20 billion". Whatever you say. By the way, are you at work? You spend a lot of time at /.!! Get any work done?

    9. Re:some more compelling science by corrosiv · · Score: 1


      I didn't claim to make 20 billion - that's what my company has in the bank you fool.

    10. Re:some more compelling science by jbottero · · Score: 1

      ...And you're the CTO...

    11. Re:some more compelling science by jbottero · · Score: 1

      Read your own post, you said nothing about "your" company or any other company. You said "I'll continue to hack with 20 billion in the bank..."

      Get your story straight.

  83. move to an Arab country or to India by G�tz · · Score: 1
    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!
    Well, you could move to some Arab country or to India. The traditional clothes they wear there lock really comforable to me.
  84. I can wear what I want at my work by peterpi · · Score: 1

    ... and I love it.

  85. Re:wearing pants? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

    Butting in here

    personally, I detest dress codes, but I've grown to respect them. I find it more insulting that they have to make rules about how to dress because they don't trust us to know better than that the acceptable forms of dress are limited.

    The thing about flying free but only wearing slacks is ridiculous. Sounds like an airline exec had some kind of pedophilic fetish for boys in slacks.

  86. Let me get this straight... by HerbalSpiderMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Recently, we have heard that:

    1. Masturbating keeps your prostate healthy.

    2. Eating pizza helps prevent cancer

    3. Not wearing a tie can preserve your eyesight

    Bout time we had a run of good news :D

    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by aurelianito · · Score: 1

      Please post an URL refering to the pizza stuff. Thank you.

  87. What is a tie? by mummers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Surely it is nothing more than an arrow directing your co-workers in the direction of your genitalia.
    I'm not sure what this says about people who wear bowties...

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    --This isn't a man who is leaving with his head between his legs.
    1. Re:What is a tie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I'm not sure what this says about people who wear bowties...

      They're *very* good with their hands...

    2. Re:What is a tie? by sharkdba · · Score: 1

      Surely it is nothing more than an arrow directing your co-workers in the direction of your genitalia.
      I'm not sure what this says about people who wear bowties...


      hmmm... "look around, nothing's here"

      --
      The purpose of life is to find the purpose of life.
  88. Masturbation causes blindness... by jbottero · · Score: 1

    Damn. I wear a tie AND masturbate a lot so I guess I'm going to need a seeing eye dog soon...

    1. Re:Masturbation causes blindness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder what happens if you masturbate using your tie?

  89. get neeked!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Let's get NEEKED"!!!!!!!! No Pants!!!!!!!!

  90. Wearing a Tie? by richie2000 · · Score: 1

    "Wearing a Tie", eh? So that's what you young ones call it nowadays.

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  91. I see a pattern here... by furriskey · · Score: 1

    Wearing a tie will make you go blind... and the New Scientist are reporting that masturbation is
    good for you.

  92. h'm by Archon-X · · Score: 1

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    What, is this a geek effort to crush ANY chances of getting laid?

  93. umm... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait!

    Did you just ask about fashion tips on Slashdot?

    ARE YOU INSANE!?!?

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    Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
    1. Re:umm... by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      Apparently I am
      Please give your advice anyway.

  94. Where are my pants? by dtabraha · · Score: 1

    Some people have already adopted the idea!

    See the evidence!

  95. luser by martin · · Score: 1

    well don't wear it too tight then .... d'oh

    jeez, next you'll be telling me the coffee cup holder on your PC is bust... :-)

  96. Ah ha! by peterprior · · Score: 1

    One way to fight the suits at SCO :)

  97. Re:wearing pants? by IANAAC · · Score: 1
    The thing about flying free but only wearing slacks is ridiculous. Sounds like an airline exec had some kind of pedophilic fetish for boys in slacks.
    Actually, women/girls had to wear skirts or dresses and men/boys had to wear slacks, so I doubt it was a little boy fetish.
  98. Conformist behavior by dark-br · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember starting a job and having my first all-hands meeting with that employer. The boss informed us that a couple VIPs were coming the next day and he wanted all the men to wear ties and all the women to wear dresses. After the boss left I mentioned to the woman sitting next to me that I wasn't going to wear a tie because I didn't wear ties and the company had no dress policy. She looked at me in disbelief and insisted that I was going to wear a tie. When I again stated that I didn't wear ties I saw a vein nearly pop in her forehead. Her blood pressure nearly doubled.

    "We'll see about that" she said with an angry look on her face as she ran to the boss' office to tell him of my criminal behavior. I walked over to the office and popped my head in the door.

    "The secretary says you won't be wearing a tie tomorrow" he stated with one eyebrow raised.

    "Sorry, but I don't wear ties" I replied.

    "Okay, I didn't hire you for your looks and thanks for letting me know" he smiled.

    The secretary nearly passed out when I didn't get the death penalty for not wearing a tie. Till this day I have never seen conformist behavior quite like that.

    1. Re:Conformist behavior by Barraketh · · Score: 1

      Umm, that's not conformist behaviour. Conformist behaviour would be if the boss started wearing ties and then everyone else in the department started doing the same to immitate him. Here the boss requested that everyone wears ties. While you may have something against this request, doing what the boss said isn't conformity. Furthermore, i doubt you're scoring points with the management this way - refusing fairly trivial requests.

      On the other hand, the secretary was still a bitch for being so uptight about it - it's not really her job to check what you're wearing.

    2. Re:Conformist behavior by merchant_x · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that's conformist behavior. I think the word you're looking for is obsequious. But it doesn't matter, we still get the point.

    3. Re:Conformist behavior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Fairly trivial request? It's a massive invasion of personal space. Besides, wouldn't you say that it is unprofessional of a manager to make trivial requests?


      BTW, I'll never understand the logic that makes people say that wearing a suit makes you look professional. I have never worn a suit to work in my life, and neither to most of my interviews, but if my employers did not consider me "professional", I'd be out of work instead of earning six figures.

    4. Re:Conformist behavior by Vellmont · · Score: 1

      Personally I'd go for the word Nazi Youth. This woman sounds like she would have turned in her neighbor to the Gestapo for not saying Heil Hitler at the end of a conversation.

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      AccountKiller
    5. Re:Conformist behavior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "all the men to wear ties and all the women to wear dresses"

      You mean women work naked on other days .....I sure would love to work in your office ;)

  99. Kilts @ the Office by meatball_mulligan · · Score: 1

    Man, I'd be in heaven if I could wear my Utilikilt to the office. Unfortunately that's about as likely as SCO winning a Tuxie next year.


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    1. Re:Kilts @ the Office by Hey_bob · · Score: 1

      I'm doing the job hunting thing now.. and I'd like that to be something my next employer would be cool with (wearing my Utilikilts to work). For now, I'll just settle with a job that pays the bills and doesn't suck the life out of me... The latter being optional too, i suppose.

  100. In that case . . . by mr_luc · · Score: 1

    Keep that tie cinched up!

    Give it a few years, and you won't be bothered by their offensive fashion statements any more.

    Hell, no one around here wears a tie, and this article has convinced me to START!

    1. Re:In that case . . . by fehlschlag · · Score: 1

      But then no one would be able to watch pr0n anymore... oh, wait, that causes blindness, too!

      Just can't win...

  101. They told us... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...it's this. Then that.

    But it's probably OK as long as it's keeping those perverts away from ties.

  102. Oh yeah... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    and those new kind of vibrating pagers that clip to your ear.

  103. Ties and suits are "dangerwear" by heironymouscoward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This has been known for a long time. Consider the peacock's tail... a large decoration that attracts the female of the species not because of its brilliant colours, but simply by its size. The larger the tail, the stronger the peacock.
    The same goes for the tails of the birds of paradise, the longer the tail the more danger the bird is in, and more attractive to fenales.
    This is "dangerwear", and in its extreme human form, comes in the form of military uniforms.
    Women like to look at men in suits because if you can survive a day of strangulation, you are by definition tough, and that's good, somehow.
    (I'm not sure why the ability to bear suffering is attractive to women, but nature has its reasons, I guess.)
    However, scientifically this can be measured. Half the geeks wear a tie and suit for a month, the other half wear comfortable shorts and sandals. At the end of the month, who got more sex?
    Far-fetched, I know, but just maybe...

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    Ceci n'est pas une signature
    1. Re:Ties and suits are "dangerwear" by tim_uk · · Score: 1

      Change the experiment so the shorts wearers are in kilts and then the suits won't get ANY!

      Women adore the look. There's the whole Braveheart factor (even if the kilts in that movie were laughably wrong for the period ("Coo-ee Hamish, after you with the steam-iron!") and the intrigue that makes them ALL ask The Question. (How you answer is up to you...)

      My wife bought me my latest kilt and she takes advantage of me every time I wear it. Countless other kilt-wearing men (geeks or otherwise) report positive responses, come-ons (try wearing one to a lap-dancing club...) and what would constitute serious sexual assaults if you tried it on a woman in a skirt.

      In short, forget trousers/pants. Get a kilt and you'll have to beat them off with a shitty stick.

      (hey, come on - if women had an appendage dangling between their legs there's no fscking way they'd EVER wear pants....)

      Tim
      (mine are from www.utilikilts.com)

    2. Re:Ties and suits are "dangerwear" by pi_rules · · Score: 1
      (I'm not sure why the ability to bear suffering is attractive to women, but nature has its reasons, I guess.)


      <woman-voice>Ohh.. I bet he can put up with me for years!</woman-voice>

  104. Re:wearing pants? by multimed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have to say that I'm more in favor of comfortable attire on an airplane than anywhere else. You're packed in close proximaty to a bunch of people, breathing recirculated air, and then (no disrespect to aerospace engineers) throw in the fact that you're miles above the ground in something that weights hundreds of thousands of pounds. I say anything that can help people relax is a good thing. I suppose though, bathing suits are a bit over the top. I recently discovered how much more relaxing a flight is with your shoes off--it's unbelievable how much difference it makes.

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  105. Switch to clipons? by ronfar · · Score: 1
    This is related to the reason that cops wear clipons (or at least did when my Dad was on the force). A tie can be used as a weapon if you are wrestling with a suspect (er... by the suspect).

    So, if you switch to clipons, this shouldn't be an issue.

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    All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
    1. Re:Switch to clipons? by DuckDuckBOOM! · · Score: 1
      So, if you switch to clipons, this shouldn't be an issue.
      (chuckle) Back in the day, the junk mail firm I worked for (I plead youth/poverty/ignorance) had a strict shirt-and-tie dress code. Being non-union, we who tended the room full of VW Beetle-sized line printers didn't enjoy luxuries such as overalls or aprons.

      As you might expect, about once a month a printer would eat a necktie, and make a good effort to include its owner as dessert. Our protests fell on deaf ears (non-union) until one day a beast managed to snag someone's tie in such a way that (1) the jam switch didn't trip, (2) the guy was out of sight behind the printer's bulk and (3) couldn't reach the stop button. He thinks he passed out briefly; he was definitely an interesting shade of blue when we found him & cut him loose. Management elected not to send him to hospital, and refused to pay him for the following day when he did so on his own (non-union).

      The lawsuit + OSHA action finally got mgmt's attention, and they promptly took action. An easement of the dress code? Overalls for the operators (with the side benefit of extending a dress shirt's half-life beyond a week)? It is to laugh - non-union, remember? Two weeks after the incident (during which another tie was shredded), we got a memo from the operations VP, amending the dress code to require clip-on ties with tie tacks/clips for computer room personnel, plus an hour of instruction in "proper and safe use of the data processing equipment". Even the ops manager was awestruck.

      As Dave Barry is so fond of saying, I am not making this up. This outfit was notorious for pinching pennies until Lincoln's skull fractured. The union had to threaten to strike (and often follow through on the threats) to get the co. to do things like, well, provide coveralls and such. Us non-union people were routinely sacked for screw-ups that cost money to correct. Yours truly was de-hired a few weeks after these events for ruining a batch of flyers; total reprint cost about $1K.

      Epilogue: About eight months after my departure, one of the half-dozen or so of my ops colleagues still working there (out of about 30) told me of a forklift accident in the warehouse that left one person dead and put two others in hospital. OSHA ruled negligence (read: the lift was broken; co. knew it and didn't fix it) and fined them something like $250K; the lawsuits cost them around 10X that. Heads rolled from board level on down; I understand it's a halfway decent place to work now.

      But I'm not going to find out.

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      Life is like surrealism: if you have to have it explained to you, you can't afford it.
  106. Geeks have known this all along by chriseh · · Score: 2, Funny
  107. Re:wearing pants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the IT "dress" of the 90's is jeans and t-shirt...

    Dude, you are a decade out of fashion - it's the naughties, not the nineties:)

  108. Re:wearing pants? by reidbold · · Score: 1

    Lectures are also more comfortable without shoes.

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    -Reid
  109. British paints, or US? by mlk · · Score: 1

    Either way, were a kilt.

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    Wow, I should not post when knackered.
  110. Dont make it so tight by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, ties have given me headaches for years, so i stopped buttoning the shirt neck button, and wear the tie slighlty loose. It did wonders.

    Sure its not as 'professional' but you can arrange it so it doesnt look bad, and it improves ones health..

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  111. Death to all Ties! by DoubleD · · Score: 1
    --
    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep in order to gain what he cannot lose."
  112. It's True by jasenj1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, the bras linkage is pretty well documented.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=bras+breast+cance r
    http://www.all-natural.com/bras.html
    http://ww w.health2us.com/bra.htm
    http://www.guymalone.com/ bra_breast_cancer.htm
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/ obidos/ASIN/0895296640/ seekye1comonline/002-2368796-0932831

    - Jasen.

  113. Hell yea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    granpa told me working my wanker myself would cause blindness too.

  114. This explains a lot... by clickety6 · · Score: 1

    ... about the way the Italians drive!

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  115. Re:wearing pants? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

    ok, it was a dress up fetish. either way it's fucking ridiculous.

  116. How many folks at NASA wear ties? by aynrandfan · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this is why the top managers at NASA often can't see the obvious.

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  117. A new method for execution by ahpeterson · · Score: 1

    Amazing, this scientific report means that we have a new and innovative way to implement capital punishment. I think I will call it a 'noose'.

    I need to call my lawyer and have a patent application written immediately.

  118. Necktie Origins by heli0 · · Score: 3, Interesting


    In 1660, in celebration of its hard-fought victory over Turkey, a crack regiment from Croatia (then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire) visited Paris. There, the soldiers were presented as glorious heros to Louis XIV, a monarch well known for his eye toward personal adornment. It so happened that the officers of this regiment were wearing brightly colored handkerchiefs fashioned of silk around their necks. These neck cloths, which probably descended from the Roman fascalia worn by orators to warm the vocal chords, struck the fancy of the king, and he soon made them an insignia of royalty as he created a regiment of Royal Cravattes. The word 'cravat', incidentally, is derived from the word 'Croat'. It wasn't long before this new style crossed the channel to England. Soon no gentleman would have considered himself well dressed without sporting some sort of cloth around his neck -- the more decorative, the better.
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    Whenever the offence inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigour of penal law is obliged to give way...
    1. Re:Necktie Origins by tim_uk · · Score: 1

      Oh behalf of all the English I'd just like to say sorry...

      Tim

  119. Please! by tfcdesign · · Score: 0

    Keep your pants on.

  120. Re:wearing pants? by whatch+durrin · · Score: 1
    I recently discovered how much more relaxing a flight is with your shoes off--it's unbelievable how much difference it makes.

    It's also unbelievable how many people don't realize their own feet smell like hot, three day old tuna.

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  121. Ties and Eyes by WheelDweller · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now this is just silly; ties are only 'too tight' when you don't get the right size neck on the shirt!

    I thought I wore a 16, but that was without the tie. Then I found that if I put on a size 18 neck (which sounds like I'm some kinda power-lifter or linebacker) the button is easy to fasten, the tie lies loosely around the neck, and all is well.

    Women know this; this is why all nerd _should_ have women in their lives...sadly, they don't.

    So buy the right sized shirt, and these problems go away! (Also, if your one of those stricken with bleeding-shirt disease, remember to pull out the PINS that help keep the shirt folded before wearing them. ) :)

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    1. Re:Ties and Eyes by flo_france · · Score: 1

      I am a woman, and I agree with you, men must have the right size neck of the shirt. But what if you simply can't find it? It is quite impossible to find a shirt with the right size neck for my man (he is a very tall and beautiful men ;) ). Sometimes I find one, but they are horribly expensive (and old-fashioned), and we often can't afford it... and when the neck is ok, there is too much room for the belly!
      And finding a tie is something very funny for a big man here (France), because they all are really too short.
      So if he has no choice and must wear a tie, it is always too tight.

  122. Buy better shirts by CracktownHts · · Score: 2, Informative
    A common theme among these posts seems to be that dress shirts are uncomfortable. I hated dress shirts too, until I started wearing more expensive shirts.

    I have a roughly 15 3/4" neck. Most ready-made shirts only come in half sizes so it's a choice between too small and too big. Solution is to wear thick, heavy ties and tie a hefty knot that covers up the top button area so the slightly oversized collar isn't too obvious.

    Next step is custom made shirts. Brook Bros custom shirts start around $90, which sounds bad compared to Today's Man, but isn't all that bad for something you wear every day. They also last a hell of a lot longer than Today's Man. However, anything from a well-respected shirtmaker, even if it's ready-made, will be more comfortable due to workmanship and materials.

    1. Re:Buy better shirts by cubyrop · · Score: 1

      Buying bespoke garments may be a viable option for you well-off titular servants with your lucrative, stable civil service jobs, but 90 bucks a smock for us glass-sorters and bacon-miners means that at least 7 of the 12 kids don't get their cabbage water.

      I'm still looking for some nice rags. Does Brooks Brothers make rags? I prefer either soot-soiled or tattered...

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      If I could make this sig kill you, I would.
  123. Do away with the shirt-tucking! by cenobita · · Score: 1

    I'd just like to find an excuse not to have to tuck my shirt in. There's nothing worse than constantly being aware of the fact that if you suddenly get an erection or need to "readjust", anyone looking at you will notice a sudden shift in your pants.

    Long sleeve shirts? I like to think of them as crotch guards.

  124. And that ain't all by r_j_prahad · · Score: 1

    Mark me redundant if you must, but this cannot be said often enough. Or with enough emphasis. Neckties cause terminal stupidity. A sickness that is fatal, both to the wearer and to those around him. A disease of the mind so hideous in its permanently crippling consequences that we often shut our eyes to the human wreckage that ensues. They, neckties, promulgate an irreversible neurological deficit of stupendous proportions, inevitably leading to rapid onset of pointy hair syndrome and eventually the complete loss of all higher brain functions.

    Do it for the employees. Ban neckties.

  125. Ties? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the navy I'm not allowed to wear a tie with certain uniforms off of my command post because it can be used as a weapon against me. Strike _2_ for ties.

  126. Kilts by Jim+Hall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    for wearing pants: they're optional. you are also allowed to wear a skirt, kilt or dress.

    I own two kilts, and I do wear them to work sometimes. For casual wear, great for summer weather, buy a Utilikilt. They're not very expensive. Check out these Top 10 Reasons for Wearing a Kilt.

    Afraid you'll look silly in something that looks like a skirt? Don't be. Wearing a kilt shows a sense of security with yourself, and you will inspire much debate in others.

    Overweight? Not a problem. Order one with a Beer Gut Cut. The beer gut cut is for guys who carry a little extra weight down in front. You can order a single, or double (God help you), beer gut cut.

    1. Re:Kilts by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      It seems a little like the Simpsons episode where Homer decides to let it all go and wear a mu-mu.

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    2. Re:Kilts by Malcs · · Score: 1

      And the company throws pretty amazing anniversary parties, too. ;-)

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  127. But what about wanking? by gadders · · Score: 1

    Does that cause blindness? What about RSI? Geeks everywhere need to know!!

  128. Do tight socks also cause circulatory problems? by xeo_at_thermopylae · · Score: 1

    My father and I were discussing men's socks and both over the years had independently concluded that all manufactured socks were too tight. We
    both have somewhat large (size 13-14 U.S.) feet. Neither of us have ever found comfortable loose socks even in specialty stores. When we remove our socks they leave an impression on the skin up to 30 minutes.

    Consequently I stretch new socks to fatigue them and make them loose.

    Given the recent publicity on deep-vein thrombosis (DVT) on airplanes due to impaired leg circulation, I think that a look at how socks fit and whether they affect one's circulation is a good idea.

  129. Kilts? Sporrans? Skian-dhu? Yay! by heironymouscoward · · Score: 1

    As a youth in the Scottish Highlands I proudly wore (you have to rrrole the rrr's to get the right effect here) a kilt (Hunting McGregor, the clan colors) every Sunday morning.
    I can tell you that the girls all ask the same thing ("whatcha got in that sporran") and the danger factor is defnitely higher than the suit-and-tie. The little skian-dhu knife makes a great toy. You can't ssh into your server with it, but you can throw it at a tree from ten yards, and it is great for skinning rabbits.
    Kilts are Good. If geeks wore kilts, Slashdot would dwindle and die.
    UP WITH KILTS!!

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  130. Re:Er...Killer links. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Remember kids: Graphic, disturbing images can cause hysterical blindness."

    With Goatse.se and Tubagirl I'd say we all are at the reading braille level then.

  131. Re:wearing pants? by JJ22 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    i even interviewed for my current job in jeans and tshirt

    Yeah, but were you told ahead of time that the interview would be casual, or did you just go balls out (so to speak) in what you were comfortable with?

    Waaaay back for one of my first interviews out of college (1996), I had an interview with a certain software company where the interviewer showed up in dirty jeans and a t-shirt, with five piercings in his head and a chain going from his pants to the ring in his nose. I was decked out in my Sunday best. He told me he dressed for interviews the same way he dressed for work every day. I thought that was nice, but some notice that "casual" clothing was appropriate would have been nice.

    And as a manager now, if someone were to show up for an interview with me without a tie, they've pretty much lost the job, even if the usual dress is casual, unless they've been told otherwise beforehand that dressing formally is unnecessary (if I have to wear a tie, so do you).

  132. Did anyone else find this paragraph odd? by coldmist · · Score: 1

    [After having a tight tie on for 3 minutes,] 60% of the glaucoma patients, and 70% of the healthy men were found to have significant rises in pressure. As soon as the ties were removed, the pressure fell again.

    The way I read that is 10% more healthy men had "significant rises in pressure" than the glaucoma patients did.

    How is this linked then? to me it says since fewer glaucoma patients had the "significant rise," then there wouldn't be any correlation between the condition and the pressure.

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  133. Masterbation will still blind more geeks than ties by croftj · · Score: 1

    My subject line says it all

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  134. Better keep masturbating by shmert · · Score: 2, Informative
    If you don't want prostate cancer. Speaking of dubious research...
    in a finding likely to be welcomed by teenage boys worldwide, Australian researchers say frequent masturbation could help protect against prostate cancer.
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  135. hmmm by Wordsmith · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    spanking the monkey,
    choking the chicken,
    taking old one-eye to the optomotrist,
    wearing a tie ...

    somehow it just doesn't have the same ring to it. kids today need better euphomisms, methinks.

    1. Re:hmmm by FreshFunk510 · · Score: 1

      It's the new urban legend of the white-collar, dot-com age. Quite befitting I think.

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  136. Dress code harm by The+Tyro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dress codes can actually hurt you, particularly if put in place by folks who are more concerned about form than function.

    For instance, I never, ever wear a tie at work, because it's hazardous to my health, and that of others... let me explain. Working in emergency services puts me in contact with all sorts of antisocial, psychotic, and generally dangerous characters. Ever look at a tied necktie and say to yourself "hmmm... that looks kind of like a noose..." Well, you're right, it does. It also ACTS like a noose if a psychiatric patient is trying to strangle you. ER staff get assaulted all the time (a colleague of mine was tackled by a psychotic psych patient and got a detached retina for her trouble... not fun going blind in one eye), and you have to be careful not to give your attacker any ready weapons (kind of like in jail).

    I have seen ERs that forbid scrubs, and instead require shirt and tie for their docs... I'm sorry, but I have a problem with that. Not only do I hate trying to get blood and vomit out of my good shirts, but I'm not going to wear a noose to work. Even if it's a clip-on, it can dangle into (and contaminate) a sterile field.

    It's not all window dressing and appearances... function has to take precedence.

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    1. Re:Dress code harm by Lost+Race · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Cops who wear neckties in the field either wear clip-ons or breakaways. The breakaway is a regular necktie in every way except it's actually in two pieces held together with velcro which hides under the collar at the back of the neck. Somebody yanks on one of those hard and it just tears right off (with that satisfying velcro sound), with the free bonus that the yanker doesn't get the resistance he was expecting and tends to fall flat on his ass.

  137. Re:wearing pants? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I thought the IT "dress" of the 90's is jeans and t-shirt

    After the bubble popped it is now formal.

    But an interesting trend started happening in the late 90's: company logo shirts. They "sell" the company, yet are more comfortable than ties. They were usually collared cotton shirts. I bet if the economy picks up, we will see that extended more.

  138. There already has been.... by eluusive · · Score: 1

    .....But you have to get an operation called a "sex change."

  139. In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the tie wears YOU!!!

  140. formal dress doesn't have to be a tie by einhverfr · · Score: 1

    I have a really nice Batik shirt that I can wear with slacks. The shirt cost me more than a sports coat and since it looks formal but unusual nobody knows how formal it is supposed to be. I am planning on wearing it to an upcoming interview.

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  141. zippers by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

    Maybe if you have a button-fly. Zippers would scare me in that situation.

  142. We knew Ties Constrict bloodflow by rifter · · Score: 1

    It is clear, especially from the actions of Congresscritters and other politicians, as well as the RIAA/MPAA and CEOs that ties unduly constrict bloodflow to the brain. Now we have reseach which leads in that direction. Perhaps they should give people IQ tests before and after ties next?

  143. Already is Scientific Evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    Well, wearing pants reduces air flow in the groin area. This leads to impotentence for men...so...to hell with pants.

  144. Alternative to pants by Donal+Dubh · · Score: 1

    I am sure that if you wanted to, we would have no problem with you wearing a skirt. :) And remember, "If it's not Scottish, it' crap!"

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  145. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  146. It's not farking /. news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, this news is stolen from fark.com, and this isn't the first time... Even the last funny sentence is borrowed; at least, you could have find another funny line.

  147. Life imitates South Park by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

    So Mr Mackey's tie-caused head-inflation is accurate?

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  148. Does that mean... by maroberts · · Score: 1

    I can sue my old school (uniform including tie required), for causing my eyesight to suffer? I was -10.25/-9.75 by the time I was 18!

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  149. D'oh! by Vengeful+weenie · · Score: 1

    That's it.

  150. Mark of Royalty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, being working-class born, I'd sooner be hung with a tie than wear one. Royal = Useless.

  151. Yeah but, by Kashif+Shaikh · · Score: 1

    Then men would get the StareToLongAndYouWillGetASlape Desiese!

  152. Wearing a Tie? Suspect Blindness? Frat Boy? by jabber01 · · Score: 1

    If your vision goes out each time you put on a tie, you're probably wearing it on a little too high. You're not in College anymore. In the Real World, it's supposed to go around your neck.

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  153. Fashions for our lizard brains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Western fashions leverage the target recognition/attraction in the instinctual 'lizard-brains' of members of the attracted sex.

    Women's fashions feature cleavage, which emulates what a male targets when approaching and mounting from behind. Neckware can add additional details, such as a tail or rosebud or ...

    Mens suit-jacket fashions feature a dark V-shape in front of a light background shirt, which emulates what a female targets when approached and mounted from behind. Neckware + shirt collar can add additional details, such as a red phallus hanging between, with a triangular head. Jacket-collars add corners for knees or ankles.

    Like any other market, fashion starts with features people are already attracted to (whether they know it consciously or not), and adds features and value to build a relationship from there.

  154. Ok now I can see by Doc316 · · Score: 0

    Well isn't this a fine mess. I just brought a bunch of ties. but I wonder what's next to get the ladies out of their blouses. Then we are talking

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  155. wife beater and jeans by gearwhore · · Score: 1

    HA HA ... i held out for a job where i can wear relaxed clothes, I Manage IT for a company of around 100 people and, today i am wearing a wife beater and old jeans. I have to be good at my job -- not look like a corporate whore.

  156. Not wearing pants? by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

    Alas, we still have to wear pants.. Some of us even need emergency pants.

  157. glaucoma & the mechanism is the real news here by obtuse · · Score: 1

    I thought it was common knowledge that neckties impaired vision slightly, at least while they are being worn.

    The explanation I was given was that the impaired blood flow interfered with oxygen transport to the rods & cones, but apparently this hypothesis hadn't been tested.

    Anyone else heard this before? I heard it from my dad, who was doing perception research about forty years ago. Sadly, my father has glaucoma now. This means I'm at risk for glaucoma, so I'll be especially careful about my collar & tie.

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  158. Get Black Birkenstocks by billstewart · · Score: 1
    OK, so don't wear Tevas, wear the formal black-colored Birkenstocks and socks, not the informal natural-colored ones. You'd be surprised what's acceptable in most environments. I keep a pair of wingtip salesman shoes in my car for visiting more formal customers, but wear the birks when I'm talking to engineers.

    Obviously this doesn't apply if you're working somewhere that you need closed-toed shoes for protection from dangerous objects...

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  159. Most places don't mind as long as you're neat. by billstewart · · Score: 1
    Yes, there are some places that expect you to wear specific costumes, but normally if you dress neatly the ponytail isn't a problem, especially in a technical job. I didn't grow my beard until after I'd already done the job interview, but that was just a timing thing, not a strategy, and business environments were more formal 25 years ago. It was never a problem, though I did trim it shorter when I did a job interview 10 years ago.

    As one customer of mine said "Extra points because it's a Jerry Garcia tie, but we don't wear ties here so you shouldn't either..."

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  160. Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad Avril will only lose her sight and not her hearing.

  161. Ha! I knew it. by Rellik66 · · Score: 1

    There ARE benifits to wearing clip-ons ya know!

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  162. I can see it now... by juhaz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lose NNN POUNDS! Buy your own tapeworm TODAY!

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  163. Re:wearing pants? by jafuser · · Score: 1

    And as a manager now, if someone were to show up for an interview with me without a tie, they've pretty much lost the job, even if the usual dress is casual

    If they are going to be people who present themselves to the public, then maybe I could understand this rule, but if they are going to be thrown into a dark room with a computer, some pizza, and a case of Dr Pepper never to be seen again until the project is finished, then it is simply short-sighted.

    If someone comes in dressed casually and they seem competent, then you might want to think twice about tearing up their resume .. they could very well be really good at what they do, and they don't want to work for some stuffy PHB, and they know that dressing casually will immediately filter out those jobs offered by incompetent management.

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  164. Technology T-Shirt Etiquette by billstewart · · Score: 1
    At least here in Silicon Valley, there's an important etiquette details about product-related T-shirts, which is that if it's an interesting shirt, people will ask you about it so you should have an answer ("Oh, did you work on the FooBar 6? Those were cool!" "No, but we were a beta customer for it.")

    Levis convinced the business world that Dockers should be the Official Business Casual dress code, replacing the wool suit, which gradually meant that black jeans are as formal as I ever need to get for customer visits. (Yay! Cotton is much more comfortable.) I normally wear long-sleeved shirts anyway, so that wasn't an issue, and a good white cotton shirt handles the formality bit when that's appropriate.

    San Francisco is a bit more formal than Silicon Valley, not so much because they have more bankers than programmers but because the weather forces you to wear a jacket half the year anyway, but most of the bank employees are IT people so you don't need the suit&tie anyway.

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  165. I'm female, you insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although I'd say t-shirt and jeans anyway.

  166. Your pants betray you! by Spiritwalker · · Score: 1

    These pants are now the ultimate power in the Universe. I suggest we use them!

  167. tight pants cause infertility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which is why i wear my pants gangsta style, wut up g!

  168. wear everything looser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any kind of tight clothing has negative effects on your bloodflow. Which is why I wear my pants gangsta style, wut up G!

  169. MOD PARENT UP! by fforw · · Score: 1
    Personally I'd go for the word Nazi Youth. This woman sounds like she would have turned in her neighbor to the Gestapo for not saying Heil Hitler at the end of a conversation.
    I would mod you "insightfull" myself, but...
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  170. Interesting entry page... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just click on the man's crotch to enter...

  171. oh no!!!!!! by Jesus+IS+the+Devil · · Score: 1

    Does that mean if you wear pants with a belt you will become impotent?

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  172. Pressure buildup leading to blindness by Carnivorous+Carrot · · Score: 1

    > Doctors have found that wearing a tie too tight
    > causes pressure on the jugular vein, which
    > leads to a build-up of pressure in the
    > eyeballs. Such pressure rises have been linked
    > to glaucoma, which causes blindness.

    Hmmmm. I wonder if extreme pressure on other parts of the body are known to lead to blindness. Also, would repeated cycles of pressurization and relaxation every half second or so for anywhere from five minutes to an hour and a half increase the damage done?

    There are, after all, old wives' tales of going blind...

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  173. OR they simply don't make 'em to fit! by gidds · · Score: 1
    I'm of medium build*, and with a not-excessively-thick neck. But if I get a size 16+ for a comfortable neck size, you could fit two of me into the main body; and conversely if I get a size comfortable for my body, then I asphyxiate well before the top button is near done up.

    (* For a European, which probably equates to 'thin as a rake' size in the US...)

    Short of getting (and paying for) made-to-measure shirts, I have to compromise; my usual one is never to do my top button up, and when I wear a tie, use a large enough tie knot that it covers the gap. Not ideal, but necessary.

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  174. Tie dyed blind by jeepliberty · · Score: 1
    I've heard of "tying one on" and being "blind drunk" but but this is sounds like a conspiracy involving the backers of casual Fridays.

    Next, will there be similar research involving suicides and ties. Shall we call that "tie-died" or "tie-died"?

  175. You don't have a cat do you? by bluGill · · Score: 1

    I used to telecommute once in a while. (not possibel with my current job, anyone hiring a programer so I can get out of physical labor?) I never worked in the nude, because I have a cat. Guys with cats soon learn that you can't walk around the house in the nude.

    1. Re:You don't have a cat do you? by glenebob · · Score: 1

      There's a joke to be made here about nudity and cats... or guys with cats... or something. But I'll leave it alone.

      True about the cat though. Nudity soon earns you trouble.

  176. Ties cause glaucoma? by Recca · · Score: 1

    Keep wearing them I say. At least we'll have an excuse to smoke weed. :(

  177. I can assure you... by Destron · · Score: 1

    That I stopped wearing pants in the office years ago.

  178. I'm Waiting For The Science To Solve by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

    the brassiere problem.

    (No, not me, THEM!)

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  179. Re:Kilts? Sporrans? Skian-dhu? Yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ardchoille!!!

  180. A message to you, rudie. by supertaster · · Score: 1

    I'm not giving up my skinny ties. Besides, a big skinhead or a nasty Vespa wreck will probably take me out before I go blind anyway.
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  181. muwhahaha kilty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yea.. down with pants.. on with.. kilts..

    www.utilikilts.com muwhahaha

  182. No tie, no suits! by flo_france · · Score: 1

    I hate tie and suits for men, I find it horrible and not viril at all. I love hawaïen shirts, and above all bubus (affrican dress). Bubus are coloured (suits always have sad colors), beautiful, stylish, and comfortable (one of my friends occasionally wear it, and said to me there is nothing more comfortable). I want men to be beautiful, elegant and sexy, not wrapped into suits :)) Generally I think occidental men clothes are very sad, not imaginative, not comfortable, and they don't suit men who are very thin, or chubby, or tall... Most of the men looks ridiculous with a suit... I think it's time to change the (working) fashion for men, quickly! I forgot : I am a woman :)

  183. Pants? by McPierce · · Score: 1
    Now, if only some kind researchers could get us all out of wearing pants at the office, we'd be set!

    I don't wear pants as it is...

    But, then again, I work from home and only go to the office once a month...

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  184. Re:wearing pants? by JJ22 · · Score: 1
    If you look at is as *during the interview* they are presenting themselves to the public, you'll might see my point of view. I totally understand that people tend to work better when they're comfortable (working from home, wearing what they want, not having to worry about asinine rules) - there are just a few occassions when it is appropriate to put on your Sunday best to make an impression. Most of the people at my company wear business causal, upper management wears ties or sport coats, and a few of the more daring engineers wear jeans. It is not an issue unless you're meeting with someone (exteral, clients or for other reasons), and I firmly believe that you want to make the best impression possible in an interview. And if the candidate was truly special and came in underdressed, I'd discuss the issue and see if they could make me understand their point of view. I don't work with anyone that gets "stuck in a darm room" 100% of the time.

    (And for the record, I'm much less PHB than Michael Bolton from Office Space with a promotion.)

  185. Q: What's worn under the kilt? by BoogieChile · · Score: 1



    A: Nothing! It's all in perfect working order!