The whole point is that computers are unreliable. They eat things. Steam will retransmit a 6GB game as many times as you like even though you only bought it once. That's customer service: I'll buy from Valve in the future. But a tiny little 5MB aac file? Too much to retransmit? I'm not stupid, I can see you don't truly value me even if you think you do. In addition: the competition is free. And like I said: in a few years I'll have the heart again to try to convince my niece to throw her money away again. Perhaps by then she'll have learned the system administration skills to back up her system as well.
Have you ever read "Unsafe at Any Speed" by Ralph Nader? Is it still my fault when the systems as a whole are engineered stupid? Or shall we go with pure capitalism and say that since the market isn't demanding it through a clear signal of sales that it isn't necessary to change? Well, theres lots of signals as in no sales for physical industries and ok sales for now for the fledgling digital ones. The trends depend on feedback in groups. I'm adding to that feedback with this branch of posts.
Because they didn't sell me a physical product I could have taken care of. They sold me bits. Ephemeral bits. Should Microsoft have ponied up the protection money for it? I know I would have kept a physical cd safe, I obviously couldn't trust Microsoft to keep digital bits safe. I should have known better and backed up those elusive intangible bits to begin with, that is my failing. At the same time they are so cheap to transmit that refusing to do so is just demonstrating how cheap you are.
I'm gonna vent here because this just happened and is directly to do with digital media. A certain store that deals in tunes I emailed last week. My niece had spent over $150 on those 99 cent or so tracks there, at my encouragement. I really do want to see her at least start out on a path of compensating the artists (even though the labels can suck it). So, anyway, she had a catastrophic hard drive crash - everything gone. Reinstalled Windows no problem, go back to this tunes program, no option to re-download legally purchased music. A bit of Internet searching led to people referencing a mythical "form" which when filled out would get the Internet gods to flip a switch and give you a magical one-time additional download. Bandwidth doesn't really cost that much, this is a customer service issue here: it's different from physical cd's. So filled out the form and the days go by and no response. I'm disheartened. What did we do last night? I installed Limewire on her machine and I'll be damned if she's going to throw her money away again. $150 may not be a drop to them but to my thirteen year old niece it was a fortune I talked her into spending when she could have chosen to get her music the way everyone else does from the beginning. We'll try again in a few more years and see if the industry has smartened up by then. I don't have the heart to talk her into potentially throwing her money away again before then.
I think there is some confusion between our definitions of "computing.";) Of course any computation is computation. Depending on the architecture of the machine it may be suited more for certain types than others but the computation, regardless, remains. Engineering and growing artificial brains may simply be the most practical methods to address some issues. This does not take away from and also does not replace humanity itself unless we let it, we are not special.
And they want their wages back;) One thing at a time. In the now, what we can actually do something about: hysteria in government over 9/11 is doing much more damage than the terrorists could have actually dreamed of doing. Thank you wise government. Where's the sarcasm tag again...
Then a law needs to be passed that creates a condition which is defined as: "being detrimental to the freedoms and sacrifices that have defined this nation." Of course causing this condition would need a defined response as well.
That's the thing;) They can go to hell on their own thank you! =) It's a free country and it's unfortunate that that means people are free to do things I find to be completely repugnant and on the other hand I'm also free to not go along with them. They can french-kiss my asshole thank you, come get me. For all my uncouthness I'm sure an enlightened judge would see it my way. And if not, well, I'm still right no matter the power that may be able to be wielded against me. =)
I don't intend it to be for criminalizing actions in the day to day. What I'm hoping for is that: bad law passed, many years later Supreme Court affirms that, then accountability is begun for those that made it happen in the first place. Elections are fine and dandy but there is rarely any actual accountability because at worst its sometimes just a different face on the same party lines people vote with anyway..
How about something like this (feel free to democratically suggest improvements or point out issues): When a law finally makes it's way through all the courts and the Supreme Court finds it unconstitutional how about putting *every single last bastard* who voted for it on trial for treason? The Supreme Court could decide if it was an obvious case which would make it more difficult to get out of, an hysteria case which would allow reparations to more easily flow, or a subtle case which a voter could get out of with a slap on the wrist simply by admitting their stupidity. Seriously, a little bit of responsibility? I know politicians hate that word when applied to *them*, but come on: throwing insult after insult at the wall knowing that a few of them will stick is the antithesis of what I thought the USA was. It you are going to, as a politician, betray the blood spilled by countless of your ancestors for the freedom you enjoy, well, I'd like to see yours spilled in return.
Of course there will be wars and heartbreak along the way because of course people are dumb in holding on to their resistance to change itself, even if for the better....
Nice that having an opinion gets you sent to the great slashdot gulag;)
It comes down to Moore's law. The human brain is a massively parallel computer. It has about 100 billion neurons at birth and they are all computing at the same time. Silicon computers on the other hand are not the solution. They are orders of magnitude too slow and they only do one thing at a time. Graphene computers are better but not developed yet. Those have the potential to run at 100Ghz speeds so there will simply be a lot more room to "fake" the results more accurately with;) The ultimate computing medium so of course is slow as beans, say 400Mhz or so. But it is also made of meat, and out of the blue: who thought the human genome project would have led to amazing computers?
Doubters and those who don't truly understand deny Strong AI will happen. Let them live in their bubble for another *short* while. The numbers, when you're talking 100Ghz processors on the horizon, are starting to get there. Of course there are going to be critical impacts on all aspects of human society. To minimize it perhaps we should move to the system that requires an amazing level of technology to function. Yes, the big, bad, boogaboo of communism. Just because people tried to make it work without having the necessary pieces doesn't mean it's old and busted. Well, to people who aren't stupid anyway. The inefficiency issues are greatly mitigated by using computerization technology to simply track everything and eliminate duplication of effort. From there, with the further piece of AI, well: you program the machines so that they *like* to do the work and allow humans to *just live* without this quaint rat-race to go to every day *because it is not longer needed*. Of course there will be wars and heartbreak along the way because of course people are dumb in holding on to their resistance to change itself, even if for the better. And of course we won't see it cleanly because most people will also insist on conflating the issues of means with values, communism as a governing system for production and consumption doesn't *really* have anything to do with rights such as speech. The ghost of McCarthy will sink that discussion anyway too.
I was born an asshole. You obviously could be more familiar with the warez scene. The reason I see this punishment as extra-ordinary is because it is nothing. It is like grabbing one person who is jay-walking and putting him in front of a firing squad while thousands more are doing it at the same time on the same street. The issue is systemic and singling him out makes for great headlines but it is not justice.
There should be some kind of proportion to the damages, seriously that amount ruins an ordinary person for the rest of their life. Did the court deliberately set out to give him a life sentence of sorts? And if the amounts are to be set at company rates for individuals he should have his own choice just to do some time for it. Seriously, go on a walk for 3 years and move on in your life instead of being sentenced to financial death for the rest of your natural time.
Moderated down again, well perhaps I should have spoon fed the meaning more instead of wrapping it up in something that required *thought*. Copyright in this case is the boogaboo. These are works of the US government, the "we the people" part. It *is* yours because as a Citizen you have a *right* to use it in any way you damn well please. The way copyright is being abused in this case is control, it is saying "I know better than you, do not question." Change my ass, meet the new boss same as the old boss. Americans have gone insane and the only reason they shouldn't be put down is that the people really in charge, sworn to the administration but able to resign en-mass at any instant, still have good heads on their shoulders. Admiral, Sir, you deserve an extra salute for putting up with everyone around you shitting their pants and then whining when it isn't cleaned up *just perfect*!
This brings up what would be a desirable setup: Insulate the scientists doing the studies from the sources of funding. A bit of bureaucracy is the price to pay for greater truth. Industry wanks put their money into a committee to fund studies in predetermined areas. Scientists apply to the committee and receive funds from it with no future consequences because of the results they find. The committee decides who actually gets the money not the industry lackey who decided it needed to be studied. This would greatly root out the "self-confirming" type of study while still getting studies done.
He forgets the golden rule of capitalism! I don't give a shit about the retailers. I want competitively priced goods. If I can get them from Amazon for cheap and in a format I'm happy with, well, bu-bye Murdock-with-your-head-up-your-ass. Good riddance. You are not entitled to a living, change.
You know you are getting old when you think you should drive the speed limit. -- E.A. Gilliam <- Fortune currently displayed on this page.
The problem is that it *will* be abused, as in you are well and truly fucked. Even if it just happens to *you* that is way too many people. Best come up with solutions that have no civil liberties "compromises."
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The whole point is that computers are unreliable. They eat things. Steam will retransmit a 6GB game as many times as you like even though you only bought it once. That's customer service: I'll buy from Valve in the future. But a tiny little 5MB aac file? Too much to retransmit? I'm not stupid, I can see you don't truly value me even if you think you do. In addition: the competition is free. And like I said: in a few years I'll have the heart again to try to convince my niece to throw her money away again. Perhaps by then she'll have learned the system administration skills to back up her system as well.
Have you ever read "Unsafe at Any Speed" by Ralph Nader? Is it still my fault when the systems as a whole are engineered stupid? Or shall we go with pure capitalism and say that since the market isn't demanding it through a clear signal of sales that it isn't necessary to change? Well, theres lots of signals as in no sales for physical industries and ok sales for now for the fledgling digital ones. The trends depend on feedback in groups. I'm adding to that feedback with this branch of posts.
I hope I get to eat my words. It's been about 6 days with no response yet here.
Because they didn't sell me a physical product I could have taken care of. They sold me bits. Ephemeral bits. Should Microsoft have ponied up the protection money for it? I know I would have kept a physical cd safe, I obviously couldn't trust Microsoft to keep digital bits safe. I should have known better and backed up those elusive intangible bits to begin with, that is my failing. At the same time they are so cheap to transmit that refusing to do so is just demonstrating how cheap you are.
I'm gonna vent here because this just happened and is directly to do with digital media. A certain store that deals in tunes I emailed last week. My niece had spent over $150 on those 99 cent or so tracks there, at my encouragement. I really do want to see her at least start out on a path of compensating the artists (even though the labels can suck it). So, anyway, she had a catastrophic hard drive crash - everything gone. Reinstalled Windows no problem, go back to this tunes program, no option to re-download legally purchased music. A bit of Internet searching led to people referencing a mythical "form" which when filled out would get the Internet gods to flip a switch and give you a magical one-time additional download. Bandwidth doesn't really cost that much, this is a customer service issue here: it's different from physical cd's. So filled out the form and the days go by and no response. I'm disheartened. What did we do last night? I installed Limewire on her machine and I'll be damned if she's going to throw her money away again. $150 may not be a drop to them but to my thirteen year old niece it was a fortune I talked her into spending when she could have chosen to get her music the way everyone else does from the beginning. We'll try again in a few more years and see if the industry has smartened up by then. I don't have the heart to talk her into potentially throwing her money away again before then.
I think there is some confusion between our definitions of "computing." ;) Of course any computation is computation. Depending on the architecture of the machine it may be suited more for certain types than others but the computation, regardless, remains. Engineering and growing artificial brains may simply be the most practical methods to address some issues. This does not take away from and also does not replace humanity itself unless we let it, we are not special.
And they want their wages back ;) One thing at a time. In the now, what we can actually do something about: hysteria in government over 9/11 is doing much more damage than the terrorists could have actually dreamed of doing. Thank you wise government. Where's the sarcasm tag again...
Then a law needs to be passed that creates a condition which is defined as: "being detrimental to the freedoms and sacrifices that have defined this nation." Of course causing this condition would need a defined response as well.
That's the thing ;) They can go to hell on their own thank you! =) It's a free country and it's unfortunate that that means people are free to do things I find to be completely repugnant and on the other hand I'm also free to not go along with them. They can french-kiss my asshole thank you, come get me. For all my uncouthness I'm sure an enlightened judge would see it my way. And if not, well, I'm still right no matter the power that may be able to be wielded against me. =)
I don't intend it to be for criminalizing actions in the day to day. What I'm hoping for is that: bad law passed, many years later Supreme Court affirms that, then accountability is begun for those that made it happen in the first place. Elections are fine and dandy but there is rarely any actual accountability because at worst its sometimes just a different face on the same party lines people vote with anyway..
How about something like this (feel free to democratically suggest improvements or point out issues): When a law finally makes it's way through all the courts and the Supreme Court finds it unconstitutional how about putting *every single last bastard* who voted for it on trial for treason? The Supreme Court could decide if it was an obvious case which would make it more difficult to get out of, an hysteria case which would allow reparations to more easily flow, or a subtle case which a voter could get out of with a slap on the wrist simply by admitting their stupidity. Seriously, a little bit of responsibility? I know politicians hate that word when applied to *them*, but come on: throwing insult after insult at the wall knowing that a few of them will stick is the antithesis of what I thought the USA was. It you are going to, as a politician, betray the blood spilled by countless of your ancestors for the freedom you enjoy, well, I'd like to see yours spilled in return.
When they come for me, thats a warning to all my friends that it is time to begin truly stockpiling certain materials, not just collecting them ;)
Of course there will be wars and heartbreak along the way because of course people are dumb in holding on to their resistance to change itself, even if for the better....
;)
Nice that having an opinion gets you sent to the great slashdot gulag
It comes down to Moore's law. The human brain is a massively parallel computer. It has about 100 billion neurons at birth and they are all computing at the same time. Silicon computers on the other hand are not the solution. They are orders of magnitude too slow and they only do one thing at a time. Graphene computers are better but not developed yet. Those have the potential to run at 100Ghz speeds so there will simply be a lot more room to "fake" the results more accurately with ;) The ultimate computing medium so of course is slow as beans, say 400Mhz or so. But it is also made of meat, and out of the blue: who thought the human genome project would have led to amazing computers?
Doubters and those who don't truly understand deny Strong AI will happen. Let them live in their bubble for another *short* while. The numbers, when you're talking 100Ghz processors on the horizon, are starting to get there. Of course there are going to be critical impacts on all aspects of human society. To minimize it perhaps we should move to the system that requires an amazing level of technology to function. Yes, the big, bad, boogaboo of communism. Just because people tried to make it work without having the necessary pieces doesn't mean it's old and busted. Well, to people who aren't stupid anyway. The inefficiency issues are greatly mitigated by using computerization technology to simply track everything and eliminate duplication of effort. From there, with the further piece of AI, well: you program the machines so that they *like* to do the work and allow humans to *just live* without this quaint rat-race to go to every day *because it is not longer needed*. Of course there will be wars and heartbreak along the way because of course people are dumb in holding on to their resistance to change itself, even if for the better. And of course we won't see it cleanly because most people will also insist on conflating the issues of means with values, communism as a governing system for production and consumption doesn't *really* have anything to do with rights such as speech. The ghost of McCarthy will sink that discussion anyway too.
I was born an asshole. You obviously could be more familiar with the warez scene. The reason I see this punishment as extra-ordinary is because it is nothing. It is like grabbing one person who is jay-walking and putting him in front of a firing squad while thousands more are doing it at the same time on the same street. The issue is systemic and singling him out makes for great headlines but it is not justice.
There should be some kind of proportion to the damages, seriously that amount ruins an ordinary person for the rest of their life. Did the court deliberately set out to give him a life sentence of sorts? And if the amounts are to be set at company rates for individuals he should have his own choice just to do some time for it. Seriously, go on a walk for 3 years and move on in your life instead of being sentenced to financial death for the rest of your natural time.
Moderated down again, well perhaps I should have spoon fed the meaning more instead of wrapping it up in something that required *thought*. Copyright in this case is the boogaboo. These are works of the US government, the "we the people" part. It *is* yours because as a Citizen you have a *right* to use it in any way you damn well please. The way copyright is being abused in this case is control, it is saying "I know better than you, do not question." Change my ass, meet the new boss same as the old boss. Americans have gone insane and the only reason they shouldn't be put down is that the people really in charge, sworn to the administration but able to resign en-mass at any instant, still have good heads on their shoulders. Admiral, Sir, you deserve an extra salute for putting up with everyone around you shitting their pants and then whining when it isn't cleaned up *just perfect*!
See, moderation is about control too ;) =D
It's not about and never will be about copyright when it comes to government works. It's about control. Bend over Citizen, here come your tax dollars.
OMG Did I endorse *GOVERNMENT* *hangs head in shame* commits seppuku.
This brings up what would be a desirable setup: Insulate the scientists doing the studies from the sources of funding. A bit of bureaucracy is the price to pay for greater truth. Industry wanks put their money into a committee to fund studies in predetermined areas. Scientists apply to the committee and receive funds from it with no future consequences because of the results they find. The committee decides who actually gets the money not the industry lackey who decided it needed to be studied. This would greatly root out the "self-confirming" type of study while still getting studies done.
Oooh yeah. Being a sex offender, well, someday you're not in prison anymore. Some dishes *are* best served cold.
He forgets the golden rule of capitalism! I don't give a shit about the retailers. I want competitively priced goods. If I can get them from Amazon for cheap and in a format I'm happy with, well, bu-bye Murdock-with-your-head-up-your-ass. Good riddance. You are not entitled to a living, change.
You know you are getting old when you think you should drive the speed limit. -- E.A. Gilliam <- Fortune currently displayed on this page.
The problem is that it *will* be abused, as in you are well and truly fucked. Even if it just happens to *you* that is way too many people. Best come up with solutions that have no civil liberties "compromises."