Isn't this the same problem that came up with the BSD code? I.E. AT&T liberally copied the BSD code and then sued BSD for using their code. At the time, it was a sever problem for BSD and lead to the widespread adoption of Linux.
I doubt the same problems would happen with SCO, because unlike AT&T back then, which was the Unix company, SCO is just some pissant company no one cares about.
That would also explain why SCO has been so unwilling to show exactly which bits of code they used. People would quickly realize that Linux developers wrote the stuff, not SCO.
On the other hand, I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to claim that Linux used code stolen from their own Linux compatibility layer. What are they going to claim "Without our code, Linux would never be compatible with, um, Linux"
DeCSS gives people the ability to copy DVDs? What was keeping me from copying them before? Put the DVD in the drive, copy the file(s) to your hard drive. Burn to another DVD if you like. No DeCSS required. The copied DVD plays just fine.
The hardware in your DVD-ROM drive. The method you outlined would not produce a usable duplicate.
no if either side would be big enough assholes to try it, but why couldn't you use DMCA there?
Dude, you are so stupid it hurts. The DMCA only applies to copy-protection schemes. It also spesificaly allows reverse engineering for interoperability.
I'm sure they've sold far more then a billion 'chips' in their days. I wonder if they are only talking about 'desktop' CPUs or are including embedded versions of the x86.
And even if cursive makes writing faster (and I'm still not convinced that it does), it reading it is slower. My theory is that our brains become trained at a fairly young age so that they can recognize a letter in block form fairly quickly, because 90% of the time that's how we see it
Plus, you pretty much need to relearn everything for every person's handwriting you come in contact with. I've had the experiance where I could barely decipher someone's handwriting untill I struggled through a few words and gradualy got the hang of it.
At least with printing you can tell what the hell it says even if the handwriting sucks.
They could use their battery operated cell phones to send 'em a text message. So they can't find a cell phone? Maybe they can't find a pen either. Besides, we're only talking about cursive here, not any ability to use a pen.
Personally, I'd be a lot more worried about places where Chinese characters are used. I've studied Chinese and It's a lot easier to recognize the characters then it is to actually write them. Using a keyboard you can forget how to draw the characters entirely, while still being able to communicate using them.
That would be a good point if all uses of words were contained in Google. I mean, really, just sit back and think of how many strange phrases ('tard, pwn, derf, etc.) that NEVER leave verbal speech, IRC channels, and if you're one of those Windows jack-offs (no offense), Battle.net.
Besides, 'tard' 'pwn' and 'derf' are hardly all that common. Definetly less common then 'apache' or 'xbox' or 'dot-bomb', none of which apperan in the jargon file.
The only thing ESR did for the OSS community was attach his name to it and cash in.
And write a few utilities.
Name one thing that wouldn't have happend without him. Unlike linux (you can't say we would have had linux without him) or RMS (you can't say we would have had anything like the GPL at all without him) ESR has produced nothing but hot air. The OSI was created with Parens and probably would have come about if ESR never existed.
It's also a no-brainer, on grounds of pure self-interest, to take reasonable precautions against STDs. I'm going to buck the current wisdom here and point out that, statistically, AIDS is a negligible risk for white heterosexuals in the U.S. unless your partner has needle tracks or you have an ulcerating STD like chancroids. Outside those circumstances, people in the U.S. and other developed countries probably get killed by lightning strikes more often than they catch AIDS through unprotected heterosexual intercourse (which is why the disease is now in decline here and has been for years).
Of course, we all know all geeks are White, and that race is the most important determinant of AIDS-yness
Actually, breaking copy-protection schemes was 'cracking' and people who did that were called 'crackers'. It never had anything to do with network security until ESR got his grubby little mitts on it. And thankfully that use seems to have died out.
If ESR had any brains he would have picked something not being used alredy, like a translation of the chinese term 'dark guest'. But he didn't.
A couple of years ago I made a post complaining about ESR in general and the Jargon file specifically. One of ESR's 'claims to fame' was being the maintainer of the Jargon file, but he was doing a pretty poor job. It contained mostly obsolete terms, and missed out on obvious things like Quake, Apache, JDK (it has an entry for java, but simply said that it sucked and hackers would stay away from it.).
Someone flamed me saying that it was for 'serious things', i.e. not quake, yet the file contained Nethack.
The future of the Jargon file lays in places like everything2, which has far more information then the jargon file, and other computerized, database systems.
To be honest, I really wish people simply stop talking about ESR and ignore him. Hopefully he'll go away.
On windows, if you don't use IIS, you are likely to get screwed over at any point.
Actually, I use Apache on win2k with JSP for my lovely porn site and I've had no problems, (other then weird instability with tomcat 1.4). Sure, I don't have a gui front-end or anything like with IIS, but I wouldn't really have that with Apache on Linux either. Apache runs as an application in it's own little world with tomcat and leaves doesn't worry about the OS or anything else. Hell the config would work right off the bat on win98 even. And I could probably move the whole damn thing over to Linux of Solaris or whatever in a few hours.
And this is how it should be. I don't want an 'enterprise operating environment' I want an OS that deals with the hardware and lets me run whatever program I damn well please.
Comparing the difference between Linux and Windows to the difference between a Hammer and a screwdriver is a bit simplistic. Both are hugely complex systems that can do a lot of the same things. Almost anything you can do with a windows box you can do with a Linux box and vise versa. Sure, one specific application might not be available for one platform, but there's probably other software that will do something similar, or you can get some emulation setup going (like cygwin or wine).
The difference is more like that between a Truck and an SUV, or even comparing something like a Civic-Si and a Celica. Anyway, we all know what Linux and windows are, so what's the point in reducing to simple metaphor?
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The ACLU doesn't represent all taxpayers either, nor does the EFF. Why should special interests try to promote policies that benefit taxpayers?
Anyway, government in general is not there for the benefit of the taxpayers, but rather the benefit of the citizens. The two groups are not the same.
If you don't belive me, go ahead and try it. (although, it will work with disks that are not protected with CSS, obviously)
But it depends on who wrote the stolen bit. Could be linus, could be alan cox or one of the many other contributers.
Isn't this the same problem that came up with the BSD code? I.E. AT&T liberally copied the BSD code and then sued BSD for using their code. At the time, it was a sever problem for BSD and lead to the widespread adoption of Linux.
I doubt the same problems would happen with SCO, because unlike AT&T back then, which was the Unix company, SCO is just some pissant company no one cares about.
That would also explain why SCO has been so unwilling to show exactly which bits of code they used. People would quickly realize that Linux developers wrote the stuff, not SCO.
On the other hand, I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to claim that Linux used code stolen from their own Linux compatibility layer. What are they going to claim "Without our code, Linux would never be compatible with, um, Linux"
Such as xvid. Oh well, can't expect slashdot editors to know anything. What happened to Ogg Tarkin?
DeCSS gives people the ability to copy DVDs? What was keeping me from copying them before? Put the DVD in the drive, copy the file(s) to your hard drive. Burn to another DVD if you like. No DeCSS required. The copied DVD plays just fine.
The hardware in your DVD-ROM drive. The method you outlined would not produce a usable duplicate.
no if either side would be big enough assholes to try it, but why couldn't you use DMCA there?
Dude, you are so stupid it hurts. The DMCA only applies to copy-protection schemes. It also spesificaly allows reverse engineering for interoperability.
I'm sure they've sold far more then a billion 'chips' in their days. I wonder if they are only talking about 'desktop' CPUs or are including embedded versions of the x86.
of someone who says 'pwn' on a regular basis considering themselves a hacker?
And even if cursive makes writing faster (and I'm still not convinced that it does), it reading it is slower. My theory is that our brains become trained at a fairly young age so that they can recognize a letter in block form fairly quickly, because 90% of the time that's how we see it
Plus, you pretty much need to relearn everything for every person's handwriting you come in contact with. I've had the experiance where I could barely decipher someone's handwriting untill I struggled through a few words and gradualy got the hang of it.
At least with printing you can tell what the hell it says even if the handwriting sucks.
a friend of mine went on a Mission for the LDS church. Back then you where not allowed to use computers or email.
Well, I'm glad they're reforming. Hopefully they'll bring polygamy back. That would be kinda cool
They could use their battery operated cell phones to send 'em a text message. So they can't find a cell phone? Maybe they can't find a pen either. Besides, we're only talking about cursive here, not any ability to use a pen.
Personally, I'd be a lot more worried about places where Chinese characters are used. I've studied Chinese and It's a lot easier to recognize the characters then it is to actually write them. Using a keyboard you can forget how to draw the characters entirely, while still being able to communicate using them.
Educators are also worried that kids aren't learning proper spear-making technique.
Shockingly, no one gives a fuck.
That would be a good point if all uses of words were contained in Google. I mean, really, just sit back and think of how many strange phrases ('tard, pwn, derf, etc.) that NEVER leave verbal speech, IRC channels, and if you're one of those Windows jack-offs (no offense), Battle.net.
tard pwn (j00) derf
Besides, 'tard' 'pwn' and 'derf' are hardly all that common. Definetly less common then 'apache' or 'xbox' or 'dot-bomb', none of which apperan in the jargon file.
ESR didn't write the thing, he just took the public domain text, added a few entries, and declared himself a god.
I mean. Fortunetly for you the slashdot editors didn't say anything about ESR, they just posted a link and comments that were sent to them.
The only thing ESR did for the OSS community was attach his name to it and cash in.
And write a few utilities.
Name one thing that wouldn't have happend without him. Unlike linux (you can't say we would have had linux without him) or RMS (you can't say we would have had anything like the GPL at all without him) ESR has produced nothing but hot air. The OSI was created with Parens and probably would have come about if ESR never existed.
Warblogging is simply blogging about military politics. Quite stupid, really.
It's also a no-brainer, on grounds of pure self-interest, to take reasonable precautions against STDs. I'm going to buck the current wisdom here and point out that, statistically, AIDS is a negligible risk for white heterosexuals in the U.S. unless your partner has needle tracks or you have an ulcerating STD like chancroids. Outside those circumstances, people in the U.S. and other developed countries probably get killed by lightning strikes more often than they catch AIDS through unprotected heterosexual intercourse (which is why the disease is now in decline here and has been for years).
Of course, we all know all geeks are White, and that race is the most important determinant of AIDS-yness
fucktard first apeared on usenet in 1994. half life was released in 1998.
A fucktard is you.
Actually, breaking copy-protection schemes was 'cracking' and people who did that were called 'crackers'. It never had anything to do with network security until ESR got his grubby little mitts on it. And thankfully that use seems to have died out.
If ESR had any brains he would have picked something not being used alredy, like a translation of the chinese term 'dark guest'. But he didn't.
Raymond, Eric S. Raymond. master spy..
See, he's so ugly no one would suspect a thing.
A couple of years ago I made a post complaining about ESR in general and the Jargon file specifically. One of ESR's 'claims to fame' was being the maintainer of the Jargon file, but he was doing a pretty poor job. It contained mostly obsolete terms, and missed out on obvious things like Quake, Apache, JDK (it has an entry for java, but simply said that it sucked and hackers would stay away from it.).
Someone flamed me saying that it was for 'serious things', i.e. not quake, yet the file contained Nethack.
The future of the Jargon file lays in places like everything2, which has far more information then the jargon file, and other computerized, database systems.
To be honest, I really wish people simply stop talking about ESR and ignore him. Hopefully he'll go away.
On windows, if you don't use IIS, you are likely to get screwed over at any point.
Actually, I use Apache on win2k with JSP for my lovely porn site and I've had no problems, (other then weird instability with tomcat 1.4). Sure, I don't have a gui front-end or anything like with IIS, but I wouldn't really have that with Apache on Linux either. Apache runs as an application in it's own little world with tomcat and leaves doesn't worry about the OS or anything else. Hell the config would work right off the bat on win98 even. And I could probably move the whole damn thing over to Linux of Solaris or whatever in a few hours.
And this is how it should be. I don't want an 'enterprise operating environment' I want an OS that deals with the hardware and lets me run whatever program I damn well please.
Comparing the difference between Linux and Windows to the difference between a Hammer and a screwdriver is a bit simplistic. Both are hugely complex systems that can do a lot of the same things. Almost anything you can do with a windows box you can do with a Linux box and vise versa. Sure, one specific application might not be available for one platform, but there's probably other software that will do something similar, or you can get some emulation setup going (like cygwin or wine).
The difference is more like that between a Truck and an SUV, or even comparing something like a Civic-Si and a Celica. Anyway, we all know what Linux and windows are, so what's the point in reducing to simple metaphor?