or maybe even less depending on the number of licenses
I work for a fortune 500 with 140,000 employees. I am a programmer so I am not involved with software purchase, though I am sure we get it way less then $150. It all comes down to how much money you are giving to MS that determines how much they let you slide on prices. $150 for MS Windows XP Pro is a good average price for a small business. Since small businesses are the majority of businesses in the USA, my $150 average is not too far off.
Did you read the bold print in your own link? Here it is: *Must be Purchased with Hardware!!*. So an end-user needs to buy some hardware. Smart end-users will know you can buy a $5.00 cable or something. Corporations can get it at $150 or so, or maybe even less depending on the number of licenses, but it is still not cheap by a long shot. Most desktops today cannot run two users at once on MS Windows XP at the same time in an efficient manner. MS does not design multi-user systems. The best they have done is the switch user junk or maybe their over priced terminal server which is slow.
I personally don't think this is a good option at all. Every app you would run would require two or more user licenses. You can get an average corporate desktop from Dell for $400 or so, so what is the point of this "solution"? In the end they cost at least double the software licenses and save very little hardware costs. When you subtract their per-user software costs, you are better off to just buy another low end corporate desktop.
The people who think it's reasonable that a machine should be slowed to a crawl by locking up the disk every single day at an arbitrary time for 10+ minutes for infrequent random searches are not being very sensible.
Huh? My box never slows to a crawl. Do you know that you can control where updatedb looks? I lock it down to/etc,/usr and/home only and have cron run it at 2:00 AM when I am sleeping and my box is doing nothing. Even if I run it manually, it takes about 2 minutes to finish, if your taking 10+ minutes, you must have very slow disk and probably should turn it off. I have pretty fast ATA 133 disks that get about 56MB/sec and don't notice much even if I run it manually while I am working.
Particularly since most people usually only search a tiny fraction of the disk each day.
Well, if you knew anything about slocate/updatedb you would know that your could very easily lock it down to just/home or even a single users/home.
Cron usually makes sense only on an always-on machine and is fundamentally inefficient.
How is cron inefficient? You do know you can turn it off just like you can turn off an MS Windows service? You can turn off cron from a commandline or from from a GUI. There is also something called anacron for home users who do not have their boxes up 24/7.
I don't see what all the fuss is. If you do not like cron, updatedb, etc, just turn them off! MS Windows starts every stinking thing in the world that most home users do not need, most users are used to extra services running. The thing is, is that you can turn off what you don't want, no big deal.
Oh, one other note. There is no need to pipe all of finds output to grep. find supports search with the -name or -iname parameter. -iname is case insensitive. You can use regex with it, for example:
Why use find instead of slocate? slocate is sooo much faster since it builds a DB of files. find will do a search each time it is ran. slocate should be ran nightly as a cron job. I do agree about Gentoo's setup. I dropped it because things were all over the place and the compile times as well : )
That seems fine for smaller bits of software but for a KDE bug fix or an OO.o update, downloads can go to the 100MBs or more. Fine on a DSL line, but dial-up users are still going to get hit hard.
That would be great, but most end-users (read MS Windows users) are used to these huge updates. Do a fresh install of MS Windows XP and see how many hundreds of megs you need to download. XP SP 2 alone is huge, then add the weekly virus signature updates and most MS Windows users are use to big downloads (if they keep their systems up to date).
One other thing to keep in mind is that your average Linux distro has more then 4,000+ applications. Those updates are for all those apps. With MS Windows, you have just the base OS.
I think a cool feature would be binary diffs for updates. The distro implementor could build the new package with the fixes/updates and diff all the files that are part of that app, package it and then end-users just download that, it should be much smaller. Especially as you pointed out for things like OOo.org.
This stuff is all about the commercial world. Commercial distros and commercial corporate systems. All those distros on the list are commercial. I don't think Oracle, Veritas, IBM, etc would ever target Gentoo Linux, Peanut Linux, Arch Linux or the whole slew of other smaller community Linux distros. It would be a fine standard for commercial developers if all the major commercial Linux's support this. That would give users enough choice for their commercial corporate systems without the commercial developers having 1,001 Linux distros to worry about supporting.
If you use [Gentoo|Peanut|Arch|Scooby-Doo] Linux at home, then this stuff doesn't have much to do with you.
I am sure they didn't mean it could run your application at the same speed on _slower_ hardware. Anyone with more then 3 brain cells could figure that out. Basically they are claiming on similar hardware you should not notice a speed loss.
Just because it can work cross-processor doesn't mean it works cross-platform. For example, how will it allow an MS Windows app to run on Linux or Mac OS X? The hardware part can be done. But what about all the libraries? What happens to the win32 calls under Linux or Mac OS X? What about Linux GTK+/KDE/X or Mac OS X with Quartz/etc running on M? Is this company trying to say that they ported _all_ these API's to _every_ possible platform? I doubt it. It is just like VMWare where you need to install a whole other OS? It really just sounds like marketing hype to me.
No it is not a plugin. It is a control (widget in Linux land) to allow your OWN APPLICATION to use the gecko rendering engine. IE the browser is really just a wrapper application around MSHTML the engine that does all the work. The same for Mozilla/Firefox. They are the GUI and gecko is the main engine that does all the displaying of content. With the gecko ActiveX control, you can program your _own_ web browser using gecko similar to KMeleon which is a light weight MS Windows browser that uses gecko. You can also do this in Linux such as Galeon and Epiphany, though they obviously do not use an ActiveX control.
What version of Java are you running? I am running 1.5 and Azureus is very fast same with JEdit. Menus pop up right away. I don't notice any speed difference between it and a native app. I have an XP 2800+ with 512MB on an NForce2 chipset. It could be your hard drive. I have pretty fast drives and get around 56 MB/s. Run
hdparm -t/dev/hda
and see what you get. Anything under 25MB/s and you should get faster drives.
Well, unfortunately, Java was removed from Windows. So people can't use this with an out-of-the-box Windows installation. They have to manually go and download and install the Sun JVM. Not something the average home user knows how to do.
Quicktime and Real are not out-of-the-box either, yet that did not stop millions of users from using them. It is a click to download the JRE. It can be automatically installed from a site just like other plugins.
Thus it still seems that to reach the largest market, providing streaming video in WMV and QuickTime (and possibly Real) formats would be the best solution.
Huh? You just said the Java solution is no good because it is not "out-of-the-box", yet Quicktime and Real are? Quicktime and Real are not "out-of-the-box" for the 95% market share, yet millions use them.
No, the judge just said that in this case the US Govt. is not allowed to try and stop Oracle. Oracle cannot force the PeopleSoft board to do anything. What Oracle _can_ do is throw enough money in the pot to make all the shareholders want to take the offer. After all, the board of PeopleSoft are supposed to have the best interests of the share holders in mind.
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I think you have it all wrong. People have been creating for hudreds/thousands of years without these overly broad "IP" laws. The desire to create will always drive mankind to do just that. There will also always be ways to make money for those who create. The way the laws are now is that they have tipped the scales too far in one direction (the "IP" "owners"). The scales need to be tipped back into balance for the betterment of mankind and not just for some corporations who want to make cash. Again, there will _always_ be ways to make _tons_ of cash without the "IP" laws being tipped out of balance.
The biggest problem of this issue is attitudes like yours which reflect most/all corporations. It is the attitude of: "I am making money so I don't care about anything else. So waht if current IP laws are out of balance. They favor me, so I don't care".
This is what cable companies are doing with VOD (video on demand). I Have have had this service (no extra cost) for a good 1 1/2 - 2 years with TimeWarner/Brighthouse. I just turn to channel 1 and can scroll through the movies available. The cost per movie is about the same as Blockbuster. I hit play and the movie starts right away. I can stop/rewind/FF/Play as much as I want for 24 hours. The only thing that currently sucks about the service is the poor movie selection. Maybe 100-150 movies. Now, if the cable companies had a big library, the service would be great and I would have no need to go to Blockbuster or the local movie joint.
Actually, ATI documents _most_ of their cards spec and that is why there is a Free DRI driver not written by ATI. It is a trully Free driver. However, they leave out the most performance boosting features of the drivers and do not document those. That is why if you use the Free DRI ATI drivers under Linux, you will get _very_ good 2D acceleration and OK 3D acceleration. For good 3D ATI under Linux, you need their closed drivers.
This is the why I have _always_ bought NVidia. NVidia may be totally closed, but thier unified drivers are perfect and include _all_ the feautres that their MS Windows and Mac drivers do. They are very easy to install and Just Work (tm). I personally don't care that the NVidia drivers are not open and not Free(as in speech) but only as in beer. They just work and are very fast. If ATI's drivers were as good at NVidia's drivers under Linux, I might consider buying an ATI card. Until that day, I will stick to NVidia who have _proven_ they are commited to top-notch Linux drivers.
MS will never support ogg. Howver, you don't need MS for that. You can get Ogg Vorbis DirectShow Filters to play ogg in WMP. You can also get Ogg Quicktime Components that allows Ogg encoding and playback in all MacOS and Win32 apps that use Apple Quicktime.
I have never been a big fan of Apple or MS. I make my living programming about 90% for MS Windows (GUI apps) and some J2EE under Linux. I prefer Linux as my home desktop. I love Linux for the technology and what Linux stands for. A community helping one another and giving back is a great thing.
Now that I have that out of the way, let me give my opinion on WMP10 and iTunes. I just rebooted into WinXP from FC2, downloaded and tried wmp10 and iTunes. I have used wmp a few time, but until an half hour ago, I never tried iTunes. I just don't care for the layout of wmp10. I don't like the way it presents all my music. I have to scroll way too much. When I fired up iTunes, i noticed that the GUI looks very nice, but does not fit in with the winXP theme I have. No biggie, but a little annoying. iTunes presented all my music in a great way. I could see all my artists/albums with no scrolling. I played some Cure (I am 31!), and iTunes showed me tons of Cure albums I could buy. It also showed me tons of similar late-80's early 90's music (I graduated high school in 91) that was spot-on for what I like. I have to say, iTunes is very nice. WMP-10 doesn't even come close to GUI layout or finding music that I LIKE. While I will still use Linux for my desktop, I just may boot into WinXP more then I would to fire up iTunes. I am not even close to an Apple zealot, however, credit where credit is do, I have to say
That link is to the Mozilla ActiveX Control. That lets you use the Mozilla browser (gecko) in your own applications. Just like you can build your own browser interface with IE, you can do it with Mozilla/Gecko using that control. It won't let you run ActiveX plugins from within Mozilla/Firefox. For that you need the Mozilla ActiveX plug-in.
but free and open source software also goes through the same steps 1,2,3
Huh? How does the GPL "Let people pirate your software"? Pirating implies stealing. There is no stealing with the GPL, you are _allowed_ to take the software.
How does the GPL go through #3? The _whole_ point of the GPL is to grant MORE rights then standard copyright allows, not take away rights like more strict copyrigth laws would.
You can get MainActor for Linux. A professional multi-platform editor. Some info from the site:
MainActor 5 for Linux offers professional features almost identical to the features you already know from the Windows version, including DV capture and MPEG-1/2 import and export in a new interface.
You can download the demo and give it a whirl. I think it cost about $99.
For lighter work, there is Q DVD-Author. It is FOSS and works well for making DVD's with menus, etc.
Huh? Did you read the article? Let me quote some of it for you.
All in all, Hewlett-Packard has done a good job responding to their enterprise clients who are demanding that Linux be added to a laptop - and that the whole thing be done right. SuSE 9.1, as deployed here, is a terrific operating system.
and
Hewlett-Packard should be proud of their first Linux laptop; it's quite an accomplishment.
ps. I've also got the modem working... say if you want the notes on how to do this.
Why don't you post how you got the modem working on LinModems.org so that other users can get the same modem working? This is how the Linux community works : )
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*Must be Purchased with Hardware!!*. So an end-user needs to buy some hardware. Smart end-users will know you can buy a $5.00 cable or something. Corporations can get it at $150 or so, or maybe even less depending on the number of licenses, but it is still not cheap by a long shot. Most desktops today cannot run two users at once on MS Windows XP at the same time in an efficient manner. MS does not design multi-user systems. The best they have done is the switch user junk or maybe their over priced terminal server which is slow.
I personally don't think this is a good option at all. Every app you would run would require two or more user licenses. You can get an average corporate desktop from Dell for $400 or so, so what is the point of this "solution"? In the end they cost at least double the software licenses and save very little hardware costs. When you subtract their per-user software costs, you are better off to just buy another low end corporate desktop.
Yes, thanks for the correction, I did a big typo. Since I work with regexes a lot, I always think of *|? as regex stuff over just wild cards.
I don't see what all the fuss is. If you do not like cron, updatedb, etc, just turn them off! MS Windows starts every stinking thing in the world that most home users do not need, most users are used to extra services running. The thing is, is that you can turn off what you don't want, no big deal.
Why use find instead of slocate? slocate is sooo much faster since it builds a DB of files. find will do a search each time it is ran. slocate should be ran nightly as a cron job. I do agree about Gentoo's setup. I dropped it because things were all over the place and the compile times as well : )
One other thing to keep in mind is that your average Linux distro has more then 4,000+ applications. Those updates are for all those apps. With MS Windows, you have just the base OS.
I think a cool feature would be binary diffs for updates. The distro implementor could build the new package with the fixes/updates and diff all the files that are part of that app, package it and then end-users just download that, it should be much smaller. Especially as you pointed out for things like OOo.org.
If you use [Gentoo|Peanut|Arch|Scooby-Doo] Linux at home, then this stuff doesn't have much to do with you.
I am sure they didn't mean it could run your application at the same speed on _slower_ hardware. Anyone with more then 3 brain cells could figure that out. Basically they are claiming on similar hardware you should not notice a speed loss.
Just because it can work cross-processor doesn't mean it works cross-platform. For example, how will it allow an MS Windows app to run on Linux or Mac OS X? The hardware part can be done. But what about all the libraries? What happens to the win32 calls under Linux or Mac OS X? What about Linux GTK+/KDE/X or Mac OS X with Quartz/etc running on M? Is this company trying to say that they ported _all_ these API's to _every_ possible platform? I doubt it. It is just like VMWare where you need to install a whole other OS? It really just sounds like marketing hype to me.
No it is not a plugin. It is a control (widget in Linux land) to allow your OWN APPLICATION to use the gecko rendering engine. IE the browser is really just a wrapper application around MSHTML the engine that does all the work. The same for Mozilla/Firefox. They are the GUI and gecko is the main engine that does all the displaying of content. With the gecko ActiveX control, you can program your _own_ web browser using gecko similar to KMeleon which is a light weight MS Windows browser that uses gecko. You can also do this in Linux such as Galeon and Epiphany, though they obviously do not use an ActiveX control.
There is nothing "Informative" about this bunk.
No, the judge just said that in this case the US Govt. is not allowed to try and stop Oracle. Oracle cannot force the PeopleSoft board to do anything. What Oracle _can_ do is throw enough money in the pot to make all the shareholders want to take the offer. After all, the board of PeopleSoft are supposed to have the best interests of the share holders in mind.
The biggest problem of this issue is attitudes like yours which reflect most/all corporations. It is the attitude of: "I am making money so I don't care about anything else. So waht if current IP laws are out of balance. They favor me, so I don't care".
This is what cable companies are doing with VOD (video on demand). I Have have had this service (no extra cost) for a good 1 1/2 - 2 years with TimeWarner/Brighthouse. I just turn to channel 1 and can scroll through the movies available. The cost per movie is about the same as Blockbuster. I hit play and the movie starts right away. I can stop/rewind/FF/Play as much as I want for 24 hours. The only thing that currently sucks about the service is the poor movie selection. Maybe 100-150 movies. Now, if the cable companies had a big library, the service would be great and I would have no need to go to Blockbuster or the local movie joint.
This is the why I have _always_ bought NVidia. NVidia may be totally closed, but thier unified drivers are perfect and include _all_ the feautres that their MS Windows and Mac drivers do. They are very easy to install and Just Work (tm). I personally don't care that the NVidia drivers are not open and not Free(as in speech) but only as in beer. They just work and are very fast. If ATI's drivers were as good at NVidia's drivers under Linux, I might consider buying an ATI card. Until that day, I will stick to NVidia who have _proven_ they are commited to top-notch Linux drivers.
Now that I have that out of the way, let me give my opinion on WMP10 and iTunes. I just rebooted into WinXP from FC2, downloaded and tried wmp10 and iTunes. I have used wmp a few time, but until an half hour ago, I never tried iTunes. I just don't care for the layout of wmp10. I don't like the way it presents all my music. I have to scroll way too much. When I fired up iTunes, i noticed that the GUI looks very nice, but does not fit in with the winXP theme I have. No biggie, but a little annoying. iTunes presented all my music in a great way. I could see all my artists/albums with no scrolling. I played some Cure (I am 31!), and iTunes showed me tons of Cure albums I could buy. It also showed me tons of similar late-80's early 90's music (I graduated high school in 91) that was spot-on for what I like. I have to say, iTunes is very nice. WMP-10 doesn't even come close to GUI layout or finding music that I LIKE. While I will still use Linux for my desktop, I just may boot into WinXP more then I would to fire up iTunes. I am not even close to an Apple zealot, however, credit where credit is do, I have to say
.That link is to the Mozilla ActiveX Control. That lets you use the Mozilla browser (gecko) in your own applications. Just like you can build your own browser interface with IE, you can do it with Mozilla/Gecko using that control. It won't let you run ActiveX plugins from within Mozilla/Firefox. For that you need the Mozilla ActiveX plug-in.
How does the GPL go through #3? The _whole_ point of the GPL is to grant MORE rights then standard copyright allows, not take away rights like more strict copyrigth laws would.
For lighter work, there is Q DVD-Author. It is FOSS and works well for making DVD's with menus, etc.