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Free DVD Recording Tool For Linux?

jobsagoodun writes " cdrecord-ProDVD is OK for burning DVDs but (i) it grumbles pointlessly about device names and (ii) it has a weird binary-only license that expires every six months or so. There are some Free forks off cdrtools - dvd+rw/+r/-r ,dvdrtools and this patch - do any of them make a good replacement?"

160 comments

  1. Some info by Guiri · · Score: 5, Informative
    I use dvd+rw-tools and works pretty good.

    To burn a DVD I just do:

    growisofs -Z /dev/burner -R -J /path/to/data

    A very good option for doing all this very easily is to get K3b which is part of the KDE distribution.

    For authoring DVDs I recently discovered Qdvdauthor, and it works like a charm!, I was able to create my own DVDs with menus with custom backgrounds, sound, etc.

    Also check my homepage for help about video conversions: http ://dvdripping-guid.berlios.de

    1. Re:Some info by Corhonio · · Score: 5, Informative
      I've been using dvd+rw-tools (my distro is gentoo) exlusively for burning dvds since I got a plextor 708A last xmas.

      I never had a single problem with it from day 1 :)

      I'd like to mention that with the -overburn flag I can squeeze a bit more of data (above 4.7 billion bytes but below 4.7 million Kbytes(Kbyte=1024 bytes)) when needed.

      In addition I update my dvd burners firmware with PXUpdate for UNIX http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employee s/joerg.schilling/private/firmware.html, something which is very important for people that don't dual boot.

      As demonstrated in https://expressivefreedom.org/Projects/PVR/Firewir e-Methodology.html a 4gb+ single file (ie a backup tar/bz2ball) can be squeezed in dvd, which is something that propably(I can't say for sure since I haven't used windows for ages) can't be done in windows.

      Chris. PS Use the above at your own risk

    2. Re:Some info by slobbargoat · · Score: 3, Informative

      A very good option for doing all this very easily is to get K3b which is part of the KDE distribution.

      Just note that you don't need the entire KDE distribution to have K3b, you only need kdelibs from the KDE distribution.

    3. Re:Some info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      4gb+ single file (ie a backup tar/bz2ball) can be squeezed in dvd, which is something that propably(I can't say for sure since I haven't used windows for ages) can't be done in windows

      Sure it can be done in Windows. Why do think that your aging Windows knowledge is still current?

    4. Re:Some info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure it can be done in Windows. Why do think that your aging Windows knowledge is still current?

      Why do you think he thinks that? He did say "propably(I can't say for sure since I haven't used windows for ages)".

      What do you suppose he meant by that?

    5. Re:Some info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Don't forget -dvd-compat if you want it to work on all DVD-readers.

      After first trying cdrecord-prodvd a couple of times, I've switched to only using growisofs on Linux and FreeBSD.

  2. k3b by FireChipmunk · · Score: 3, Informative

    k3b works great for burning DVDs.

    1. Re:k3b by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 1

      This was modded redundant, it was posted in the same minute as the previous, and theres another one underneath that gets informative. Parent probobly hit reply before the other was posted.

    2. Re:k3b by unixmaster · · Score: 3, Informative

      FYI K3B recently got fixed to compile/run properly on FreeBSD .

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    3. Re:k3b by tiger99 · · Score: 1
      Thanks for that piece of info. I will update it when I get a chance. My FreeBSD machine is dual-boot with SuSE, so I have not yet tried to write a DVD under FreeBSD, although all the other KDE stuff seems to be in good order.

      I will say one thing about k3b, it does not mess with the system and cause bugs and instability the way Adaptec/Roxio used to, and apparently still does, on Windoze. Of course Open Source users and developers simply would not tolerate that, it would have to be fixed, either by the original developer, or by someone who could tolerate the problems no longer. But my DVD burning machine has never seen Windoze, so it does not have that problem. Sometimes, as here, Open Source really is better, sometimes there is little difference. But altogether I am very pleased with KDE, (for example Konqueror really is an integrated web and file browser, which works, like what M$ tried to achieve) and although I have much less experience of Gnome, it looks rather good too.

  3. K3B by g-to-the-o-to-the-g · · Score: 5, Informative

    K3B, dvdbackup, and dvdshrink (ran under wine, 3.0b5) work awesome.

  4. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was thinking the same... here is the official web site link
    k3b.org

  5. Re:Is this a joke? by sH4RD · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not everyone uses KDE, so why would everyone know about it? Sure you can run it under other window managers, but most KDE users have never heard of lots of Gnome utils, and many Fluxbox users don't use those type of GUI utils anyway.

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  6. dvdrecord??/ by kidgenius · · Score: 1, Informative

    I could be mistaken, but I thought there was a counterpart to cdrecord called dvdrecord.

  7. Re:Is this a joke? by zulux · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear Slashdot,
    I've been having fun with my new Mandrake install - but coming from a Windows world, I'm puzzeled...

    Does Linux have a text editor?

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  8. dvdrtools by mishan · · Score: 4, Informative
    I use dvdrtools (dvdrecord), which works completely perfectly for me. Debian even has dvdrtools in their distribution already. I use it just like cdrecord.
    dvdrecord -v dev=/dev/dvdrw driveropts=burnproof -dao -data MY_DVD_IMAGE.ISO
    1. Re:dvdrtools by KingPunk · · Score: 1

      agreed. but um, 2.6 branch of the linux kernel, supports atapi burning. no need for direct device replace dev=/dev/foo with dev=ATAPI and burn free ;)

      Make Love, Not Iraq!

    2. Re:dvdrtools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are misinformed. dev=ATAPI:x,y,z has been in since 2.4. It is a slow, broken interface (no DMA) only added because ide-scsi did not (does not?) work with PCMCIA connected devices.

      dev=/dev/foo or dev=ATA:x,y,z (there should not be a technical difference in between these two, just two different ways to specify the same thing) is the prefered interface on 2.6.x.

  9. Re:Install Windows XP by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Windows XP doesn't have native DVD burning abilities.

    Longhorn is supposed to, but with all the things that MS is cutting, it may not.

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  10. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I have never heard of it.
    Never used KDE either.

  11. dvdrtools by james+b · · Score: 4, Informative
    dvdrtools in Debian unstable works pretty well.
    I use it like this:
    mkisofs -f -udf -V "Your Disc Label" -o currentcd.img -r "your-directory-of-data"
    dvdrecord dev=/dev/hdd -dao currentcd.img

    It gives a warning about accessing the drive via /dev/hdd being depracated, but works fine.
  12. Re:Is this a joke? by eille-la · · Score: 1
    Sure you can run it under other window managers, but most KDE users have never heard of lots of Gnome utils, and many Fluxbox users don't use those type of GUI utils anyway.

    If all linux desktop user had to Ask Slashdot for this kind of question...
    Freshmeat.net exists and its platform and even license independent. If you visit slashdot enough to use the ask slashdot feature, it is weird that you don't know the existance of freshmeat.net or at least use it if you already know it.
  13. growisofs is your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just use growisofs! It comes with the dvd+rw-tools and it works like a charm. It only requires mkisofs.

    So to burn a data DVD:
    growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -r -J my_directory

    and to burn a video DVD:
    growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video my_dvd

    I don't know the story behind cdrecord-prodvd and all that license cruft (was Mr. Joerg "you must use SCSI" Schilling involved with that nonsense?)

    The less you have to deal with Schilling the better.

    1. Re:growisofs is your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Schilling is an obsolete currency and has been superseded by Euro. :P Burn on!

    2. Re:growisofs is your friend by Chris+Siegler · · Score: 3, Informative

      The less you have to deal with Schilling the better.

      Amen! Back before dvd+rw tools came out and all there was were some hacks to cdrecord I tried to buy ProDVD but gave up. As far as I could tell there's no way to actually buy it. When searching the newsgroups all I found were several Schilling rants, several people like me trying to buy it without luck, and finally a patch to an old cdrecord version that didn't require a license. If it was an intelligence test you needed to pass to get the damn license I failed miserably.

    3. Re:growisofs is your friend by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

      When I got my DVD writer I had already been using xcdroast (and implicitly cdrtools) for a long time with CD's. It seemed the simplest to just get cdrecord-prodvd for this setup.

      It amounted to downloading one (1) binary file, placing it as executable in the xcdroast bin dir and a copy/paste operation of the license key from a README found at the same place as the binary.

      It worked right away, took a couple of minutes not counting the download and now I can use xcdroast with DVD's as well as CD's without any headache at all.

      True, the license is only for home and personal use and will expire after about a year, but really, for a home user that's all I need.

      I like my DVD/CD writing graphical, so there. By comparison with xcdroast, K3B always seemed like a kitchen sink to me. I've tried it several times but couldn't get used to it. Since so many people seem to be very happy with K3B I must be the odd one out.

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  14. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    in case you haven't noticed, k3b burns DVDs using those very programs he mentioned in the summary.

    it it just a front-end for programs like mkisofs and cdrecord.

  15. Re:Is this a joke? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Funny
    Perhaps for the next Ask Slashdot we could have a question about free web browsers? Or maybe a free Linux C compiler?
    • Web browser - Chimera. Has an Athena-based X11 user interface, supports modern GIF images, and can retrieve data from HTTP, FTP and Gopher servers.
    • C compiler - various exist, including the Tiny C Compiler. Other possibilities for porting include Sozobon C Compiler and Open Watcom.
    Hope that helps!
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  16. DVD for? by gmuslera · · Score: 1
    A lot will answer k3b and the tools it uses to do its "magic", but not sure it could count as a dvd producer in the movie sense.

    But for burning data, or formatting DVDs, or even copying or burning a DVD iso is very good.

    Even love the kde trick of putting a blank dvd and offering me to launch (even by default) k3b to burn something there.

  17. What I'd like to see... by polyp2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is a a good DVD-Authoring system. Its easy enough to burn DVD's on linux and has been for some time K3b uses the command line tools to do its work seamlessly.

    But i'd like it to be easier to dump footage via my DV Camcorder over firewire and dump it on a DVD with a nice little menu. Just by clicking a couple of buttons. Alas I havent come across anything like this yet. Which is why im still hankering after a powerbook.

    Nick ...

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    1. Re:What I'd like to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd like to see that, too, although I am alot happier to discover that video DVDs do NOT REQUIRE menus! Because, personally, I just want to pop in a disc and go. I don't want to do more work than press play, and I doubt my presently-DVD-less parents want anything different from the "play/stop/rewind/ff" interface of a VCR they're familiar with either.

      So here's my formula to get DV to DVD without crufty menus. With almost minimum fuss.

      1. use kino to grab the DV and do basic editing. It can't do much editing (i.e. you can't trim in between clips) and it's sluggish in some respects but it works like a charm.
      2. Inside kino go to EXPORT->MPEG and select option 8 for the file format.
      This uses mpeg2enc, which is amazingly SLOW, but does a good job. Expect many hours encoding 1 hour of footage. My FX-53 is about 1/10th real time. If you want to retain chapters, make sure to select "scene split" before exporting!
      3. So now you have one or more .mpeg files. Use dvdauthor to construct the directory. First you must make an XML file (the second-most annoying part of the whole procedure after mpeg2enc slowness).
      <dvdauthor>
      <vmgm />
      <titleset>
      <titles>
      <pgc>
      <vob file="/path/to/first.mpeg" />
      <vob file="/path/to/next.mpeg" />
      </pgc>
      </titles>
      </titleset>
      </dvdauthor>
      4. Generate the DVD file structure.
      dvdauthor -o my_dvd -x my.xml

      5. Burn it with growisofs
      growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video my_dvd

      Voila! Alot of steps and very slow, but not too painful otherwise. And no annoying menus!

    2. Re:What I'd like to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use Kino and dvdauthor.

    3. Re:What I'd like to see... by AstroDrabb · · Score: 4, Informative
      You can get MainActor for Linux. A professional multi-platform editor. Some info from the site:
      MainActor 5 for Linux offers professional features almost identical to the features you already know from the Windows version, including DV capture and MPEG-1/2 import and export in a new interface.
      You can download the demo and give it a whirl. I think it cost about $99.

      For lighter work, there is Q DVD-Author. It is FOSS and works well for making DVD's with menus, etc.

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    4. Re:What I'd like to see... by julesh · · Score: 1

      I use it under Windows, rather than Linux, but DVDStyler (its on sourceforge, not sure of the exact project name) works well for me. Its a wxWindows based GUI, drag & drop. Very intuitive interface. I think you'll need to convert your files to MPEG beforehand, though.

    5. Re:What I'd like to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >But i'd like it to be easier to dump

      You probably don't. This isn't one of those applications where you can "save" money by using cheap non-integrated hardware or applications --in fact, you can "lose" a lot of money trying to make a system like that work. You are probably better off sticking with tape if you can't go with the PowerBook as you planned. (Also, if you are supposed to be a computer expert (and who on /. isn't) and you turn out DVDs that are just "dumps" of raw video footage with "a nice little menu", you will also look pretty stupid when the kid who cuts your lawn shows you what he did with the $800 eMac at school in under 10 minutes.)

      On Mac, not only can you "dump" your footage, but with a couple of mouse-clicks, you can mix-in background music from iTunes (and the per-track feature of iTunes Music Store), add still-shot photos from iPhoto, do non-linear editing, all kinds of transitions and titles and instead of a "nice little menu", you can choose from a library of canned professional templates (or make your own). All of this software is included free with Mac OS X. (Note: Make sure to get a Mac that has a SuperDrive built-in --adding after market DVD burners will mess up your world)

      To do this on Intel requires a lot more than a utility to "dump" stuff. You need processors that suck upwards of 100W+ of power, hard drives that don't violate the ATA spec (as many do), an operating system that was designed to handle huge amounts of real-time uncompressed datastreams in a production environment and alot of trial-n-error patience to find the best "after market" DVD burner/firmware/driver combo. As far as integrated applications, forget it. You could try Adobe Premier or Windows Movie, if they work with the new SP2, but this is a far cry from Apple's iLife. Maybe the "open source community" will mysteriously "come to the rescue" with some magic code that instantly catepults Linux past decades of R&D (like it did with SMP, journaled filesystems and clustering). Of course, since most of the "open source community" (I love that term) is now buying PowerBooks (or retiring from the "open source community") I think that there is a Fat chance of that happening.

    6. Re:What I'd like to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried MainActor on my gentoo box a while ago, got dependency problems and glibc issues. Not like i could roll my own version from source, so I decided it wasnt worth the hassle.

      Nick ...

  18. Re:Is this a joke? by \/\/ · · Score: 5, Informative

    I did not think there could be any desktop user that has not heard of k3b...

    I did not think there could be any desktop user that doesn't understand k3b is a GUI FRONTEND to several command line tools, one of them being cdrecord-ProDVD for writing DVDs. Without these backends, your k3b will DO NOTHING. Another option for writing DVDs are the dvd+rw-tools, which also work for DVD-R now. THAT is what the question is about, not your GUI-of-the-day.

    Perhaps for the next Ask Slashdot we could have a question about free web browsers? Or maybe a free Linux C compiler?

    Or maybe have a question about what's the difference about a GUI frontend and an actual work-performing backend?
  19. A bit difficult, but: by Sheetrock · · Score: 1
    The best DVD recording solution I have found was to take virtualization software such as QEMU and hack in direct ATAPI calls for the DVD device. There is some work involved in figuring out which device on the spoke is the DVD, and I don't recommend allowing direct ATAPI calls to everything (might collide with Linux's use of hda, etc.) but you should be able to determine this from the '-scanbus' call to cdrecord/dvdrecord.

    The other thing to do is to dump some form of Windows (from 95 up to XP) to the virtualization program and install one of the more contemporary DVD recorders on it (Nero works well, but shop around.) QEMU works fast enough that DVD burning can be a reality under this setup, but you'll need to set up something like Samba on the Linux side or NFS under Windows in order to bridge the systems for DVD authoring using your Linux material.

    Hope this helps -- if at all curious, please drop by #linux on EFnet and ask for more information.

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    1. Re:A bit difficult, but: by maskedbishounen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know of a guy who runs Nero under WINE and claims to have no problems with it. Would be great if they released a native linux version. I would certainly buy a copy, at least.

      The inability to burn certain (most) image formats with some (all?) of the existing tools drives me crazy more times than not. I know that there are some image conversion utilities, but still..

      I keep a Window box around for burning. It makes me sad....

      Before you reply that you need not burn anything other than ISO, just think of when Windows users come to you wanting a CD/DVD burned of a backup image (let's presume something legal, even! ;P), only to find out it's not something you can work with. Oh, how great those moments are great..!

      "Sorry, I can't burn your CD of backed up data.. ask a Windows user!"

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    2. Re:A bit difficult, but: by hummassa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This most absolutely never happened to me. There is no win format my machine refused to read as of the current date. The contrary happened a lot: somebody brings a disc no-one can read, I dd_rescue it, fiddle a little with the image, and voila... all works again.

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    3. Re:A bit difficult, but: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a URL of that bit of code up somewhere? I'd be interested in how you managed direct-to-device command translation...

    4. Re:A bit difficult, but: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, man, that sounds so much easier than using cdrecord with the free dvdpatch...

      NOT.

      Troll!

    5. Re:A bit difficult, but: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VMware + IDE-SCSI works great for burning with windows tools on linux.

  20. Re:Is this a joke? by sH4RD · · Score: 1

    It is his problem he doesn't use the internet, and to defend myself, it's true, many users of other window managers have not heard of programs designed for different WMs, however he is dumb for not using Google or freshmeat. I was simply pointing out that he was't stupid. However, the real question is why the Slashdot newsposters thought it was newsworthy.

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  21. Re:Is this a joke? by ccharles · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Probably it's not a joke. I'm aware of K3B, and I've even used it. I agree: it's an excellent application. It works well, and it's *extremely* easy to use. There's just one problem: it depends on Qt.

    I don't use KDE, and I try to avoid installing its libraries if I can. This is very hard to do sometimes, because some very good programs, like K3B, depend on those libraries. However, I like to run a lean system, so I try to steer clear of KDE-ized apps.

  22. cd-text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to know if there is any good linux soft that REALLY write the cd-text.
    I tryed a lot (including k3b and others), and none worked.
    Thanks

    1. Re:cd-text by Doug+Neal · · Score: 1

      Not all drives support writing cd-text, check that yours does.. I've written cd-text with k3b and cdrdao without any problems.

  23. Global images by vuvewux · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know of any Linux DVD burning software to burn global images? (Sonic RecordNow .gi)

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    1. Re:Global images by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Why exactly does every windows dvd/cd burning tool have to create its own propriatory format for the images? What's wrong with standard iso images?

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    2. Re:Global images by rusty0101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Standard ISO images don't lock the user into the proprietary tools that the proprietary software company wants the end user to buy as add-ons or upgrades to the free copy of whatever they got with the DVD(+|_|+_)(R|RW) burner the user bought.

      That isn't to say that the proprietary varient isn't a simple variation of the ISO image, (perhaps both an md5 and/or sha1 signature attached to the end of the image to assure integrity, or additional information the tool does not use in the actual burning, but may update each time the image is used, or even checked to see if the user is 'authorized' to burn this iso, say a hash of the authorization key for the product.

      From what I have seen, all of the burners out there can use the ISO format to burn CDs and DVDs, but everyone seems to like vendor lock in for some reason, and may not provide the ability to create an ISO in the 'free' version included with drives.

      Then again, what do I know.

      -Rusty

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    3. Re:Global images by ionpro · · Score: 2, Informative

      One reason that pops to mind is that some people are still running Windows XP on FAT32 volumes. Those people have a 4GB maximum file size limit, which may cause a problem for large DVD ISOs. This, of course, isn't a problem on NTFS, where the default maximum file size (dependant on cluster size) is something like 16 terabytes (minus 64KB).

    4. Re:Global images by vuvewux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because standard ISO images won't take audio tracks. They don't take Dreamcast images. They only take ISO9660 filesystems.

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    5. Re:Global images by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1

      Sometimes the vendor-specific file is just an ISO image with a proprietary header. Look for the signatures of the beginning of the ISO, and strip what is before that (dd if= of= skip= should do). Then try to "mount -o loop" the image, and if you succeed, burn it.

    6. Re:Global images by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      They can take other filesystems too, true about audio tho.. ISO images are just for a single track

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    7. Re:Global images by Soruk · · Score: 1

      losetup and its -o (offset) option may well be considerably faster than trying to keep cutting it up with dd - once you have found the right offset (this could even be scripted), you then know what you can trim using dd.

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  24. 11th Commandment by Apreche · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thou shalt not ask slashdot a question which can be answered by searching the gentoo forums.

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    1. Re:11th Commandment by October_30th · · Score: 2, Interesting
      And why not?

      I ask questions on public "forums" like /. or usenet because I really can't be bothered to figure out what niche forums I should be searching in the first place - especially when I am pretty sure that someone else on /. has already found the answer.

      You don't have to answer any questions you don't feel like answering, but don't bash people for asking on-topic questions.

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    2. Re:11th Commandment by Taladar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So you can't be bothered to look through the top 5 search results in Google (which are pretty useful for this question if you use something like "linux dvd burn" as search string) but you can be bothered to search through hundreds of slashdot comments?

    3. Re:11th Commandment by October_30th · · Score: 1
      So you can't be bothered to look through the top 5 search results in Google (which are pretty useful for this question if you use something like "linux dvd burn" as search string)

      Let's try googling for DVD burning linux free .

      "Pretty useful"? I don't think so. Do you see the solution there? I don't. Believe me, I do check Google first, but if the excerpts on the first search page don't show much promise I'm not going to go about clicking on the links.

      search through hundreds of slashdot comments?

      You ask a question on /. or usenet and see if anyone replies to your post. What's the problem?

      I for one am sick and tired of the elitist RTFM or TTFG (try the fucking/friendly google) attitude. It's all about ego and making other people to re-invent the wheel.

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    4. Re:11th Commandment by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Informative

      Let's try googling for DVD burning linux free

      That's a poorly-crafted search term. Too many words in the query means fewer good responses. In this case, the word "free" is basically redundant with "linux", and "burning" is just extra-syllables onto "burn" (try to use the root form of words whenever possible). "Linux DVD Burn" would've been better.

      But regardless of that, the page of results given by your query is indeed useful. Two of the results go to forum discussions on LinuxQuestions.org, where a person has asked almost exactly the same question, and gotten almost exactly the same response ("Get K3B") as Asking Slashdot produced.

    5. Re:11th Commandment by EsbenMoseHansen · · Score: 1

      searching for "DVD burning linux" (excluding free) would get you such links as "DVD Editing/Authoring/Burning with Linux" and "How to burn a DVD-Video under Linux with mkisofs and dvdrecord".

      So in this case, the asker-of-questions didn't do his homework. Searching for 5 variations on google is common courtesy. And yes, this includes clicking on those 5 links.

      Also, when asking Linux question, searching his/hers distribution, a Wiki and perhaps linuxquestions.org would be in order, too.

      In other words, do 1 hour worth of research before wasting 5 minutes of hundreds of people's time.

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  25. Re:Is this a joke? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Freshmeat.net exists and its platform and even license independent.

    First, note that "k3b" is one of the least-informative program names imaginable. It provides ZERO descriptive data (aside from possibly the fact that it uses KDE). Nobody can be expected to guess that she wants "k3b" to make DVDs. So what happens if you search for a "DVD burner" on freshmeat.net?

    Searching for "DVD burner" gives 0 hits. "DVD burn" gives 8 hits, but k3b isn't one of them. "cd burn" gives 7 hits, again without mentioning k3b.

    Searching for "DVD" by itself produces 128 results, but again, k3b isn't in there. So apparently a freshmeat search is useless, unless you already knew the cryptic 3-character app name.

    A google-search (such as for "linux dvd burn") would've faster and more fruitful. Rather sad that freshmeat isn't a good place to search for Free software...

  26. k3b by tiger99 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When I last stuck a blank DVD in the drive some weeks ago, it just worked. k3b did indeed open, it was so uncannily like the way a certain broken OS works for CD writing, if something like Roxio is installed.

    I become more impressed with kde each time I use it, which is daily. The level of integration must surely be the equal of its closed-source rivals.

    BTW I do most of my work on SuSE 9.1, but it (kde) seems much the same on the other machines, Xandros, FC2 and even FreeBSD (although I have not yet tried DVD writing on the latter).

    I get the impression that each of kde and gnome is in itself a much bigger achievement than the kernel, and certainly they are important because new users or prospective users see the GUI first. They don't care about the window manager, or the X implementation, or even the kernel. But Linux distros are clearly doing something right.

    BTW my DVD writer is multi-mode (+/-R and RW, and RAM) and the type of blank disc was correctly identified without any messing about by me, much to my surprise, as I have seen the "other" OS have problems.

  27. I don’t know by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I don't know whether there is any free DVD recording software for Linux, but I am sure that "DVD Jon" will gladly write it in no time, provided that doing so would violate copyright, DMCA and/or patent law.

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    1. Re:I don’t know by cbrocious · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure he has better things to do. CSS is long since cracked, and there's still a lot of work to do involving iTunes/iTMS.

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    2. Re:I don’t know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll. There are a lot of tools to both create DVDs and burn them.

  28. Since the post was rather questionable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    let's ask another question that might be more interesting to the majority who seem to already be using K3B.
    I heard that one of the big changes in the 2.6 kernel was that the SCSI emmulation was dropped for optical burning and that this should improve performance.
    Well sure enough, my CD writing speeds went nuts. I had never burnt a CD at 20X using that PC which, granted was only a K62 500, but Nero had never gotten to speeds that high without using up the buffer in a few seconds. But with the 2.6 kernel I was getting 20X sustained without even touching the buffer. I was truly impressed.
    BUT!
    Unfortunately, the same thing didn't hold true for DVD. My DVD burner, which is the same machine, an 8X+/-RW CyQue AKA MET, that was giving me the insane CD writing speeds was still quite slow with DVDs.
    This was disappointing because using the bundled Nero that had come with the burner I could get 4X easily even writing over the network and 8X was technically doable although it spent more time refilling the cache than writing. After seeing the CD write speed so high, I really hoped that the 2.6 kernel would give me equally fast DVD write speeds. Instead, my DVD write speeds are less than one speed which is quite slow.
    However, I'm not saying Nero on Windows is better even though it is faster. I still use 2.6 kernel and K3B to write DVDs because Linux doesn't choke on filenames like Windows does and cheap media that fails in Nero still at least writes in K3B.
    On this last note, I want to clarify that I've used many different media and all of them seem to give the same result. So, this isn't a cheap media related issue.
    There's a better ask slashdot topic.

    1. Re:Since the post was rather questionable by waferhead · · Score: 2, Informative

      One word: DMA.

      hdparm -iI will reveal all.

      Also try a UDMA 66/100 (80 wire) cable.

    2. Re:Since the post was rather questionable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds interesting, but I tried this

      hdparm -iI /dev/scd0

      And I got "operation not supported on SCSI disks" Of course this is actually an IDE DVD writer, but it is mounted as /dev/scd0 at boot up. I assume I could re-mount it though, but when I mount it as iso9660 will I get this same error?
      Probably I should try it first. But where I'm at, it's almost 5Am. I'll have to check back tomorrow.

    3. Re:Since the post was rather questionable by BillyBlaze · · Score: 1

      It's not actually mounted, that's just the device. What the error means is that you're still using IDE-SCSI emulation for that drive. Check to make sure you don't have anything like hdc=ide-scsi in your kernel's command line. Either check /etc/lilo.conf, and run lilo after making changes, or mount /boot and check /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst or grub.conf.

    4. Re:Since the post was rather questionable by computer_chacham · · Score: 1

      Note--

      4X DVD = ~36X CD

    5. Re:Since the post was rather questionable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you dufus, it's about twice as fast so
      4XDVD =~8XCD

    6. Re:Since the post was rather questionable by computer_chacham · · Score: 1
  29. Media Recording in Linux by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 3, Informative

    For any kind of Linux-related media recording whatsoever, you should definitely check out dyne:bolic, i.e. a free multimedia studio in a GNU/Linux live CD:

    "dyne:bolic is shaped on the needs of media activists, artists and creatives, being a practical tool for multimedia production: you can manipulate and broadcast both sound and video with tools to record, edit, encode and stream, all using only free software.

    "dyne:bolic is a GNU/Linux distribution simply running from a CD, without the need to install anything, able to recognize most of your devices and periferals: sound, video, TV, network cards, firewire, usb devices and more.

    "It is optimized to run on slower computers, turning it into a full media station: the minimum you need is a pentium1 or k5 PC 64Mb RAM and IDE CD-ROM, or a modded XBOX game console--and if you have more than one, you can easily do clusters."

    It is unquestionably invaluable to explore if you are not sure which software do you need to install and use on your own GNU/Linux system (e.g. Debian or Gentoo). I hope this helps.

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  30. There's nothing I can't do... by Cytlid · · Score: 1

    ...with tkDVD and xcdroast. Had these both on my system for quite some time. Most likely require dvd+rwtools and growisofs.

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  31. Re:Is this a joke? by jobsagoodun · · Score: 1

    Not heard of K3b, & I don't use KDE & didn't want to install it that much being a happy Gnome. I've had a look now, thanks for pointing it out. It does appear to use one of the 'ProDVD' alternative tools I mentioned in my post though - rather than being a self-contained dvd burning tool in and of itself.

  32. Not so fast! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Kernel 2.6.8 has effectively killed non root users from burning CDs and DVDs.

    1. Re:Not so fast! by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Kernel 2.6.8 has effectively killed non root users from burning CDs and DVDs.
      I had no idea what this guy was talking about either, until I read this.
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    2. Re:Not so fast! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's even worse.
      If one uses 2.6.8(.1) the resulting CDs will be unreadable, although cdrecord completes the burning process without any errors.
      This happenned to me three times. Reverted to 2.6.7 and everything went ok.

  33. UDF write support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I would really like to see packet-writing working properly on linux, so I can use my CD-Rs and CD-RW as a read-write medium like a floppy (an ever shrinking floppy in the CD-R case, but that's okay). similarly for DVDs.

    UDF and packet writing would rock!

    1. Re:UDF write support? by unixmaster · · Score: 1

      Already done. See http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/patches/packet/ 2.6/

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    2. Re:UDF write support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That's not "already done". It's not finished yet. They're over the hump, I guess, but that's still "being developed" - It's not fully in the mainstream kernel proper, the big distros haven't picked it up yet and integrated it (though fedora now has udf-read support out-of-box, at least) - it's certainly not yet to the point where one can just drag files to the window in a bog-standard KDE/GNOME desktop on a fresh Mandrake/SuSe/Fedora install as if the CD were a floppy...

    3. Re:UDF write support? by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Already done
      Has been there for a while.

      More importantly, do any GUI tools support files larger than 2GB yet? I can make a UDF filesystem on the hard drive with the command line, write large files to it, then write it to DVD, and even put that all in a script that's not too hard to use - but people still want to drag and drop their large files in something like k3b.

    4. Re:UDF write support? by iantri · · Score: 1

      The 2GB limitation is a flaw in the ISO9660 filesystem -- with UDF write support there should be no such problem. The same thing comes up in Windows in Nero if you try to write more a larger than 2GB file in pure ISO mode (it tells you to switch to UDF/ISO).

  34. Re:Is this a joke? by Taladar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Rather sad that freshmeat isn't a good place to search for Free software...
    I guess the reason for no mention of k3b on freshmeat is more kde's braindamaged way of packaging applications that anything else. They have so many apps that might be useful to non-kde-users but they insist on making some arbitary division into category-packages like "kde-network", "kde-pim",...

    That is one of the things thats really sad about the kde project. The authors of every single app in the kde project artificially reduce their userbase this way.
  35. Re:Is this a joke? by xigxag · · Score: 1

    He wasn't just asking for people to spout the names of various free recording tools. He was specifically asking if any make a good replacement for cdrecord-ProDVD. Which, I think, is a perfectly good Ask Slashdot question.

    Anyway, it appears that SuSE and Mandrake have patched versions of cdrtools which are able to write to DVD without restriction. I don't have personal experience with this tool, so perhaps someone else who regularly runs Linux can verify.

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  36. And other architectures/platforms by Bert64 · · Score: 1

    Well i always do my burning on an alphaserver, on which cdrecord-prodvd won't run.. Not because it couldn't compile, cdrecord compiles perfectly on it, but simply because the author doesnt see fit to produce a binary for my platform.

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    1. Re:And other architectures/platforms by triso · · Score: 1
      Well i always do my burning on an alphaserver, on which cdrecord-prodvd won't run.. Not because it couldn't compile, cdrecord compiles perfectly on it, but simply because the author doesnt see fit to produce a binary for my platform.

      Why don't you offer to produce the alpha binary for him?
    2. Re:And other architectures/platforms by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      I did, no response..
      Besides, that would require him to open up his precious sourcecode to me..
      I really wonder why the dvd recording portion of cdrecord is closed source and requiring 6 month expiring licenses when the cd recording portion is open source..

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    3. Re:And other architectures/platforms by triso · · Score: 1

      Hi,

      I didn't realize the dvd code is closed and only the cd portion is open. Expiring licences are used to force people to upgrade--a good idea if you have lots of bugs and a bad idea if you decide to start charging money for your product.

    4. Re:And other architectures/platforms by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Expiring licenses are just BAD..
      Example, i use a program for my work that has a new license every month. I had to go to a client site shortly before the end of the month and stay for 2 weeks, during this time my license expired and i had to search around for hours to find a cybercafe where i could login to my mailserver and retrieve a new license, something which i was loathed to do from a public terminal.

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  37. Re:Is this a joke? by Johnny+O · · Score: 1

    I use KDE on Linux and Solaris and I NEVER heard of this tool. Pretty cool front end. But it still relies on these programs in question....

    Never assume :D

  38. Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx by anagama · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Recently I installed Suse 9.1 and discovered that "cdrecord -scanbus" no longer did the job it used to do. Took me a while to figure out I could use a "dev/hdx".

    As I understand it, the author of cdrecord is livid over this issue. I've read a bit on mailing lists, but I still don't understand what the big deal is either way. Although somewhere I heard a comment that it may be a way for the author to make money off his DVD burning program ... I still don't get it.

    Can anyone summarize what this fight is all about?

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    1. Re:Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I wish I knew the answer to this as well.

      All I can say is the entire reason I went through the hassle of SCSI on my old system was just to avoid the hassle of ide-scsi with cdrecord. The entire ide-scsi flap seems to be centered around cdrecord and Joerg Schilling's stubborn refusal to accept reality and deviate from his beloved SCSI. Never mind the reality that almost no one carries optical SCSI devices anymore! (Save hard drives you can't find SCSI *anything* anymore!)

      Schilling also has his own "make" program, IIRC, because he refuses to write a makefile that works with GNU's make. This was discussed on the amd64 gentoo forum recently.

      Then there's cdrecord-prodvd and its annoying nagware license. Again, Schilling at work.

      Then recently there was some flap on LKML, though I have not read it because, frankly, I don't know the best place to even look at LKML.

      Heck, you can almost get a sense of his attitude from the wording of his website:
      http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glon e/employee s/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html

      I saw this problem brewing in 2000 when I got my SCSI CD burner--about the last one available. The problem is as long as Schilling is the only person with disc burning software we are all subject to his whims.

      So bring on the free and open alternatives. growisofs, for example, is fantastic, although also dependent on mkisofs (which I think is also Schilling software, but at least it doesn't seem to suck yet). Take Schilling out of the loop and then we aren't 100% dependent on him.

    2. Re:Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Take Schilling out of the loop and then we aren't 100% dependent on him.

      No problem. No UDF or DVD support yet though, I think. I've heard grumbles of speed issues as well, but it is 0.2 after all.

    3. Re:Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx by calidoscope · · Score: 1
      Perhaps the following comments may clear up Schily's approach to cdrecord... BTW, he is also the author of mkisofs.

      He's stated a couple of times that cdrecord is developed under Solaris, then ported to Linux and other Unix and Unix-like OS's. While his SCSI over ATA may be baroque, it does have the advantage of being portable and consistent over the various flavors of Unix (as opposed to being convenient to use on Linux and a real pain on non-Linux environments).

      Schily is not a big fan of the GNU tools - he makes very rude noises about GNU tar (especially when comparing it with his own star (Schily TAR). Doesn't surprise me that he doesn't like GNU make either.

      He's got some strongly held opinions (which is completely unlike such gents as Stallman or de Radt) but also has considerable technical skill to bring into discussions.

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    4. Re:Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx by iantri · · Score: 1

      Cdrdao may do what you want. Only disc-at-once mode, though.

    5. Re:Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx by Soruk · · Score: 1

      I use an IDE CD burner (and DVD burner) through an external USB to IDE adaptor - item A25AT at www.maplin.co.uk. It works an absolute treat, and as far as cdrecord (I use the Mandrake patches) is concerned, it's a SCSI drive since USB Mass Storage is implemented as SCSI over USB, no messing around with the varying ATA mechanisms.

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  39. from linux weekly news: Alternatives to cdrecord by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 3, Informative
    Alternatives to cdrecord
    After last week's discussion of cdrecord, and concerns that recent releases of cdrecord may not be free software, we decided to take a look and see what alternatives exist for Linux users. The answer, unfortunately, is "not many." While there are quite a few front-ends for recording CDs under Linux, there are very few actual CD and DVD-burning applications available to Linux users. Applications like K3b, MP3Roaster, BashBurn and others all use cdrecord to burn CDs.
  40. Re:Is this a joke? by cjpez · · Score: 2, Informative
    It should be pointed out that Qt actually doesn't have anything to do with KDE, other than KDE elected to use Qt as its base. Qt can be installed perfectly fine with no other KDE components, and there's plenty of other software that relies on only Qt, and no KDE components.

    KDE is probably the most "well-known" application which uses Qt, and so they're associated together in many people's minds, but Qt doesn't depend on one inch of KDE.

  41. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Rather sad that freshmeat isn't a good place to search for Free software...

    That's because Freshmeat's search is now powered by Yahoo! Weeeeeeeeee! Don't belive me? Just look under the search box on the front page.

  42. Re:Install Windows XP by gardyloo · · Score: 0

    I SO wish I had mod points right now. I rarely agree with posts which've been marked "flamebait" -- and this one IS flamebait. But the poster is making a very good point. Perhaps not diplomatically, but who cares?

    I hereby start the concept of virtual mod points. They're just as valid at "real" mod points, only they don't show up on YOUR computer.

    +5 -- insightful

  43. I don't want to be crude, but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not upgrade you computer?
    Anyway, sooner o later, you will do that. But seems that you need more computer power, NOW!

    1. Re:I don't want to be crude, but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, why would you want a K62 500 that draws 15watts and does all you want when you could trade it in for a P4 that draws a hundred and twenty watts and offers little more.
      Sorry but if you have enough RAM, you don't need a CPU faster than that for most things with the single exception of watching compressed video.

  44. Re:Is this a joke? by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

    I don't know, have you figured out how you are supposed to add new software?

    And where can I find a list of available software to install?

    [/sarcasm]

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  45. dvdrtools/dvdrecord by kraada · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, I don't know if this is the fault of dvdrtools/dvdrecord or just the fact that I bought generic, cheap disks . . . but 1/3 disks I burn are unreadable immediately thereafter (ie- after the burn is finished, mount the disk and md5sum the files). And some 6 months later I've found that almost every disk I ever burned won't mount right . . .
    I can use readcd to get everything back with errors (~4000-5000 errors per disk), but it's really quite annoying.

    So either it's my crappy disks (bought for about 44 cents a pop online in bulk) or it's dvdrecord. I've no idea which, though I'm leaning towards blaming the dvds (in which case, just be aware that cheap dvds aren't worth it! :)

    Just my .44 worth of useless dvdness . . .

    1. Re:dvdrtools/dvdrecord by Spoing · · Score: 1
      1. So either it's my crappy disks (bought for about 44 cents a pop online in bulk) or it's dvdrecord.

      It's the media (for sure) and the burner/settings/program (unlikely).

      Why am I certian? The media failing after 6 months means that it is unstable. After all, if you burn the disk -- it works -- and it stops working later though you haven't dropped it back in the burner, how is the burner or the software to blame?

      If the failures were always immediately detected during or just after burning -- no good disks turned bad later -- the drive or software would be the likely cause. Tweaking some settings or switching to compatable media would resolve those issues. That's not what you've described, so that's not likely the problem.

      I've found that many generic brands or house brands (CompUSA btw) have very poor shelf life, lasting from days to a few months. They get clowdy or show visible defects as the days/months go by. Very annoying and the cause of some personal data loss not just video backups (I do not copy commercial movies I did not buy).

      Search Video Help site and plug in the specific details for your drive and media;

      http://www.videohelp.com

      http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia

      http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters

      The site is invaluable for detecting all sorts of DVD and CD problems -- hardware, software, yet mostly media problems.

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    2. Re:dvdrtools/dvdrecord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Also, there is no way to do a "burn+verify" with this crap. You are forced to read the ISO back in (using readcd or whatever) and then do the comparison with "diff". Unless you mess around with truncating and pad-adjusting the data-stream being read back from the DVD, you pretty much have to mount the ISO --and guess what happens under Linux if you mount a corrupt ISO. Well nothing much until you go to access the corrupt filesystem structures --then this 2-bit public domain piece of crap will lock-up or come crashing down. That's right, there is no reliable software-only way to backup a LINUX box to DVD (and be sure the DVDs were written correctly). Those that claim otherwise haven't actually had the pleasure of discovering that their past DVD-Rs aren't really totally able to restore their system or they have just gotten lucky.

      I long for the days of Linux 1.2 --when functionality was limited, but it was all reliable. Linux 2.4 and 2.6 are really fragile pieces of crap compared to 1.2. Can you believe those idiots who are actually selling Linux 2.6 for $350 a pop? Want to see how fast they will be out of business? Just go to finance.yahoo.com and punch in their stock-tickers --filled with investigation/corruption charges and takeover rumors. Even the non-public companies are hemoraging their founders leaving a sort of motley crew of hapless idiots behind. Unless these people hire kernel experts and _permanently_ fork away from the main Linux tree, I can't see any of them surviving. Of course, once these guys start to diverge (trying to find stability on their own), then we are back to the Tower of Babble problem that UNIX suffered from for its first 20 years. I think I'm babbling...this is, after all, /. --and very few of the readers have a clue of what I'm referring to, other than they don't like to hear Linux being "dis'ed" because it "rulzes" so much better than "windows". Heh, what a shit world we live in now.

  46. Re:Is this a joke? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Informative

    I guess the reason for no mention of k3b on freshmeat is more kde's braindamaged way of packaging applications

    Wrong. Freshmeat has a page for k3b, independent of any larger "kde-tools" package. But you can't find it by searching by reasonable keywords like "DVD burn"- you have to already know that k3b is what you want to search for.

    The problem's not the completeness of freshmeat, but the lack of a good way to browse/search.

  47. If you're using scsi emulation by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Informative

    You should already have DMA, since it's on by default in scsi emulation (I used to turn scsi emulation on for just that purpose). Still, you're better off w/o scsi emulation, it can do weird things with the device nodes. Check your lilo.conf or grub.conf for the line 'hdc=ide-scsi' and remove it.

    If you want better speed, upgrade to the latest DVD+/-rw-tools. There's a ton of recently fixed speed bugs with newer drives. Install from source is easy. just make && make install as root and it'll copy itself in /usr/local where k3b will find it (you'll have to go in and tell k3b to use the new binaries). I couldn't set my speeds correctly until I upgraded, and was left choosing between 8x (not happening on my 4x media) or 1x. Once I upgrade everthing just worked.

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  48. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps Qt doesn't depend on KDE, but gods know K3B needs all the KDE crap.

    Are there any *significant* Qt applications that don't require KDE's idiotic ways of doing things? At least there are a few people using GTK that don't require you to install all the Gnome idiocies just to display a window.

  49. Verifying issues with k3b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    K3b works great for me when writing CD-R's, but I'm finding that DVD's of all sorts will write but then fail the md5sum verify that k3b performs. I'm trying to figure out if it's a hardware issue, a kernel issue, or related to autofs and scsi emulation. Has anyone else had experience with this?

    1. Re:Verifying issues with k3b by olddoc · · Score: 1

      Ditto. All CDs work and verify 100% I record at 40x using 40x media on a 52x recorder.
      All DVDs fail to MD5SUM verify although they look complete when mounted. I use 2.4x DVD+RW and 4x DVD-R on a 12x DVD recorder that also handles the way cool DVD-RAM format.
      I have K3B 0.11.13 under Fedora 2 and custom 2.6.7 kernel.

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  50. That's only if you want... by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    A UDF filesystem split across multiple sessions.

    And don't forget you need tons of space in your Local Settings/Temp folder (at least as much as you want to copy in an increment).

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  51. Re:Is this a joke? by LibrePensador · · Score: 2, Informative

    Scribus, Audacity and lots more. Do a bit of research.

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  52. Re:Is this a joke? by julesh · · Score: 1

    Does Linux have a text editor?

    True story -- I was installing SuSE personal the other day, just to see what you got on a 1cd distribution these days.

    I went through my usual application selection routine, disabling the stuff that I can't stand (e.g. vim, joe).

    By the time I was finished, the only console based text editor installed on the system was 'ed'.

    WHAT? No emacs? Not even an emacs-compatible editor? (I used to be a big fan of jove -- like emacs, only loaded _instantly_, even on my old 386).

    Was most disappointed. Hooked straight up to their FTP site to download the missing rpms.

  53. Free DVD burning tools ... for Windows? by julesh · · Score: 1

    OK, I'm serious here. I've been attempting to use ProDVD under Windows for the last 3 months, but Schilling doesn't seem to be responding to requests for new licenses (there isn't a public one for Windows like there is for Linux), so I've abandoned that idea. I'm currently using Nero, but I would much rather have a _free_ _command line_ tool that I can do this with, because then I can integrate it with DVDStyler and have author & burn in a single step. I can burn CDs just fine with cdrdao, but I haven't found anything equivalent for DVDs. Any suggestions?

    1. Re:Free DVD burning tools ... for Windows? by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

      Here you go, a completely free graphical DVD/CD burner for Windows: CDBurnerXP.

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  54. OSS DVD Extensions by stock · · Score: 3, Interesting
    checkout http://freshmeat.net/projects/ossdvd/

    install the RPMS for your distro, and after that its a breeze to burn/read your DVD stuff from the commandline:

    http://crashrecovery.org/oss-dvd/HOWTO-ossdvd.html

    Robert

  55. Schilly is the Dawes of CD recording by Nailer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Makes a great tool, but screws it up in his desire for control. Schilly cdrecord is no longer Open Source in its most recent versions due to a license change. GIYF.

    Use the cdrecord that comes in your distro. Red Hat, Suse, and most others now come with patched versions of older cdrecord that handle DVDs fine.

    1. Re:Schilly is the Dawes of CD recording by swv3752 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You forgot Mandrake, who pays the developer who actually maintains the cdrecord fork.

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  56. Re:Install Windows XP by Sexy+Bern · · Score: 1
    C:\Documents and Settings\Bern>dvdburn /
    Usage: dvdburn <drive> <image> [/Erase]
    Give it an ISO and it will burn it...
  57. use -scanbus dev=ATA by Hal+XP · · Score: 2, Informative
    cdrecord -scanbus should still work. But with the new ide direct access (minus the ide-scsi emulation layer), you have to pass an argument to -scanbus to get the bus, etc, ID of your burner. To view the possible arguments, try cdrecord -scanbus dev=help. In my case to get the bus ID I use cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA. To burn a DVD I use something like cdrecord dev=ATA:1,1,0 (which is functionally, I think, equivalent to dev=/dev/hdd).

    That's unless SuSE did something really insane with their fork of cdrecord.

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  58. Simple Answer - Lxdvdrip by newdles · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=l xdvdrip This above link is where you can find the software. This link below is how you can use it to perfection. Lxdvdrip is quite literally configurable to a 1 click dvd backup software. You can set it up to where all you do is click an icon and you're done as it does everything else for you (if configured right and with a dvd r/w and a seperate dvd rom to read from unless you want to switch dvd's in the middle of the process). http://pcpitstop.ibforums.com/index.php?showtopic= 59445&hl=lxdvdrip Read this thread here and you'll find out how to configure it to work for you as well as delete all the temp files when done.

    1. Re:Simple Answer - Lxdvdrip by etrnl · · Score: 1

      Very cool. Thanks for this link, I'll have to check it out tonight.

      K3B works great for burns but not being able to do backups kinda sucks.

  59. Re:Is this a joke? by Ice_Balrog · · Score: 2, Funny
    Does Linux have a text editor?
    No. Real men (Linux users) use dd to write files to /dev/hd[a-z][1-9], and cat to read 'em.
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  60. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet oddly, for, searching for some wild term like, oh "DVD burning" gives..K3b, right as the first result. Who'd have thought using sensible search terms might give sensible results? Not you, apparently.

  61. Re:Install Windows XP by slaker · · Score: 1

    Of course, you need to install Cygwin and a bunch of GNU tools to general ISOs on the fly, which is mildly annoying, but if all you're doing is dumping the ISOs you grab from Fasttrack or the the MSDN Parter downloads site, it's really handy.

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  62. Re:Install Windows XP by slaker · · Score: 1

    That should be "generate", not "general".

    While I'm at it, I hope that someone gets around to making a better command-line tool to generate those ISOs sometime. The batch files I'm using to do it are really, really ugly.

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  63. DVD Shrink in Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Warder had put together a nice script for DVD backing up to 4.7G Discs found here.

    Does the same thing as DVD Shrinks as per winblows.

    Gary "MUD" - Nexlinks

  64. lwn.net coverage by pyg · · Score: 2, Informative
    Lwn.net has had articles about cdrecord for two weeks in a row. The first being about the development of cdrecord and the role GNU/Linux distributers (Red Hat, et. al.) play in adding dvd capabilities. The second is about alternatives to cdrecord.

    In case you happen to live under a rock somewhere lwn.net is possibly the best Linux/FOSS news source on the net.

  65. Re:Is this a joke? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Funny
    First, note that "k3b" is one of the least-informative program names imaginable. It provides ZERO descriptive data (aside from possibly the fact that it uses KDE).

    Excellent point! I'd stick with something more logical like "Roxio" if I were you.

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  66. Re:Is this a joke? by swv3752 · · Score: 1

    It works fine in Mandrake.

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  67. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did not think there could be any desktop user that doesn't understand k3b is a GUI FRONTEND to several command line tools, one of them being cdrecord-ProDVD for writing DVDs.

    Guess what? 99% of computer users are the type which you don't believe exist. :)

    Sometimes the whole point of the GUI is that people don't have to know anything about the command line, or even that such tools exist.

  68. port the good stuff by nazsco · · Score: 1

    on my BeOS i can use good software to do that

  69. Re:Install Windows XP by stekman · · Score: 1

    When I try to burn my dvd:s with movies from my DV camera under Windows with the program I bought, I get "Compilation Failed" as error message and no help how to solve it... The support from the company says: Buy again, it is solved in the new version... They just want my money, as always in the Windows world.

  70. Re:Install Windows XP by Jafar00 · · Score: 1

    The topic is "Free DVD Recording Tool For Linux?"
    Windows XP is not free either in price or useage ;)

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  71. Re:Is this a joke? by readme.txt · · Score: 1

    Opera's webbrowser is another good example for a QT application.

  72. Re:Install Windows XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows XP is free as in free sex with children. You can have it for free, but you can be sued for that.

  73. Re:Is this a joke? by 10Ghz · · Score: 1
    Perhaps Qt doesn't depend on KDE, but gods know K3B needs all the KDE crap.


    KDE-libs and maybe KDE-base. But it doesn't need any of the other KDE "crap".
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  74. cdrtools mailing list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Please subscribe to the cdrtools mailing list to stay informed about all the recording to cd and dvd tools.

  75. Re:Is this a joke? by Pope · · Score: 1

    "Roxio" is the company name, the products they offer on the Windows platform include Easy Media Creator, Easy DVD Copy, and Easy CD & DVD Creator.

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  76. Seriously by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 1

    My post was moderated as "-1, Flamebait" but I seriously admire this guy. I remember a recent discussion on Slashdot:

    "Does anyone know Jon's doctor?
    "I want to know if he really does have testicles made of brass."
    "Not only are they made of brass, but he's got five of them."
    "I want to meet Jon's tailor. I hear he makes pants that fit like a glove."

    This is exactly how I feel. Moderating my post as "-1, Flamebait" was a serious mistake.

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  77. dvd+rwtools by shurdeek · · Score: 1

    I use the dvd+rw-tools (the fy.chalmers.se URL you posted). My experience is very good, it works flawlessly. The only problem is if you need to burn something that mkisofs can't create (e.g. audio tracks, video DVD or I don't know what) on the second+ track. I personally find growisofs sufficient (I use my burner basically only for backups), but I can imagine there are people who want more.

    At first I tried the closed source cdrecord-DVDplus, but somehow couldn't get it working satisfactorily.

    MfG shurdeek

    1. Re:dvd+rwtools by iantri · · Score: 1
      FYI, mkisofs has done DVD-video for some time now.. in fact, growisofs simply passes the --dvd-video flag through to mkisofs.

      By audio I'm not sure what you mean.. DVD-Audio is just a bunch of properly encoded files burned in the proper layout in an ISO9660 file system (Just like DVD-Video).

      All you need to do for either should be growisofs -M /dev/scd0 -R -J [--dvd-video] /filepath.

  78. Re:Is this a joke? by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

    "Roxio" is the company name, the products they offer on the Windows platform include Easy Media Creator, Easy DVD Copy, and Easy CD & DVD Creator.

    Which reminds me: no more Roxio burning software in the near future.

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  79. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are there any *significant* Qt applications that don't require KDE's idiotic ways of doing things?

    Scribus, Audacity and lots more.

    Doesn't Audacity use wxWidgets instead of Qt?

  80. How about real UDF filesytem support from a GUI? by dbIII · · Score: 1
    with UDF write support there should be no such problem
    Exactly - but is there a GUI cdwriter that supports UDF writing correctly yet? The one's I've seen use a broken method to generate the UDF filesystem which is unable to produce files bigger than 2GB - they don't use something that works like "mkudffs".

    Once you have the image file, you can burn it with just about anything - but "mkudffs" is just a bit too complex for a lot of users to deal with, even if you give them a simple script that takes everything in a directory and turn it into a UDF file system. They just want to drag and drop the same way they do in Nero.

  81. Thanks a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now were going to have to fight off old man Jack Valenti as well as Darl McBride and Bill Gatus of Borg. Way to go you insensitive clods. ;)

  82. Do you use GNOMEified apps? by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    They also drag in a trainload of dependencies. I use both, load all the libraries and be damned with the overhead. That's what having a multi-GHz processor and gigabyte-range RAM is all about. Contrary to MS-Windows, KDE is getting noticeably slimmer and faster these days, and thanks to constant whining from (forex) Mandrake Cooker denizens, the apps are becoming more modular as well (with the notable exception of Kontact and friends).

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