Stop your trolling dude. What year are we in again? When was the last time people were expected to _pay_ for a web browser? Oh, that is right, you don't have to pay for opera, but you get tons of ads shoved down your face. _And_ Opera is not even close to being as standards compliant as Moz/Firefox (or even IE for that matter). I have used both extensively and Opera just chokes on too many sites. It may be fast and lightweight, but it sucks on far too many pages.
Dang! I used up my last mod points. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Switch to a more local bank that is using _your_ money to help the community and actually employs local works? It is not like BofA (or any of the "big banks") give 10% on savings accounts or something.
Maybe that is because cbs.sportsline.com puts out some incredibly non-standards compliant HTML? Why would you blame the browser when it it the site and the "programmer" wanna-bee's that cannot generate something as simple at HTML?
Oh, and by the way, I just tried cbs.sportsline.com and had _zero_ problems with firebird 0.9 under Linux and MS Windows.
Now go back to your popups, spyware, adware and expliots in IE.
How is it extraordinary for MS to gain market share from themselves? That 50% accounted for users of other MS oses, so I don't see how it was "extraordinary" for MS to get their users to just upgrade. That basically happens when their users get a new computer. So all those Win98 users got tired of their current, slow, spyware, adware and virus infected computers and went out and bought a new computer. Where is the "extraordinary" in that? Now if MS's _total_ market share was only like 10% or so and they made it grow to 50% in three years, then yes that would be impressive. But to get thier _current_ users to just upgrade? No, there is nothing "extraordinary" there.
OS numbers also depend on what type of sites you are getting stats from . If you look at your typical "Joe User" site then Google's numbers should be correct. If you look at more technical sites, then Google's numbers are not correct.
As for the parent poster I was replying to who said:
If you just count desktop installations, Linux is such a distant third you have to use a microscope to see the market share.
I don't think a 3% to 1% share would need a "microscope to see the market share" difference.
Dude what crack are you smoking? Linux on the server is giving MS on the server a tough run for the money. And Linux on the desktop is on the heels of Mac. Nice try with spreading your Mac FUD. Oh, and according to some sites Linux on the desktop is already ahead of the Mac. It is time to step out of 1995.
huh? not sure what you mean by "pc's", as they are not dealing in pc operating systems, but linux.
PC == Personal Computer. Where in "PC" do do you see MS Windows? You can have a Linux PC and/or a Windows PC. It is still a PC i.e. based on x86. Now if it was PWC (Personal Windows Computer) or something I could see your point. But a PC can be Linux, Windows, FreeBSD, Dos, etc.
Those who continue to do this are probably going to eventually get caught
The RIAA has sued about 3,429 people. There are _atleast_ 10,000,000 people in the USA alone that are using some type of file sharing (and that is not counting the rest of the world). so (3,429 / 10,000,000 = 0.0003429) * 100 = 0.03429. So you have a.03 percent chance of being caught by the RIAA. I don't think the RIAA has the "leg up" in this situation.
I am a long time Gnome user and only recently have been using (and really liking) KDE. While it may seem to be reinventing the wheel, there is not much choie for a KDE developer. They cannot reuse GTK/Gnome stuff, since that would add more dependencies to a KDE desktop. Why would a KDE desktop user want Gnome/GTK dependencies? Just as why would a Gnome/GTK desktop user want QT/KDE dependencies? The two toolkits and desktops are very different and use different languages (C and C++) so the hope of reusing GTK/Gnome and QT/KDE is slim to none. They could reuse ideas, but not code. Just as it would be hard to reuse code between MS Windows and Mac OSX.
It all depends on where you look and what type of sites you get stats for. For more techie sites, Moz/Firefox is growing well, for your average Joe User, well they use what came in the box.
Then you would probably love Gentoo. I don't personally use it anymore, however they have an improved ports like system that is very nice, thousands of apps to install with just a simple command (and then wait on the compile).
Have you tried a Linux webcam app? GnomeMeeting is very nice. There is also a list of others here under the "Video: Security / Webcams / Monitoring" section.
Use Azureus and download the torrent. I am downloading this torrent at around 2Mbs right now on my cable modem. FTP servers and mirrors just cannot compete with a torrent.
MS may or may not have enforced their patents in recent times, I am a programmer and not an MS analyst. Howver, MS has also never been challenged the way they have been challenged recently by Linux. While MS may have the monopoly on the desktop OS, Linux has _really_ hurt them in the last few years in the server market. Linux has grabbed about 25% of all new server shipments in the last few years. The last frontier for MS is the server. Withe Linux having a strong server market and growing as much as it is, it is really a threat to MS. I wouldn't put it past MS to pull any stunt.
Man, you have no clue about the GPL do you? You can modify GPL code as much as you want. A corporation (end-user) can even modify GPL code for their own needs and never release those changes as long as they don't try to distribute those changes. So the fortune 500 that I am a senior programmer for can take any GPL app and use it internally and make any amount of changes we want without releasing those changes. You can take a GPL app and modify it as you please and keep it "top secreat". If you want to distribute those changes, the GPL states that you must also distrubute the code. If you don't distribute, those code changes belong to you only. Get a clue about the GPL before you try to put it down.
Well the intent of the patent is for use with PocketPC PDA's. The patent is simply launching different application behaviors based on how the application is launched. Patents have been granted for less.
Ahhh, a Microsoft apologist! I guess you speak officially for Microsoft? You are assuring everyone that MS will _never_ use this bogus patent to stop competition? No, not Microsoft, never!
What a troll. Where is this story being misleading? Yahoo! is up to crap IMO, that is one reason why I _never_ use yahoo.
Oh, and about your sig;
Everyone should respect the copyright of the GPL. By the way, the RIAA is evil for going after copyright infringers.
What one GPL app is suing thousands of end users for sharing code? The whole point of the GPL is to give end users more rights then what copyright gives. Obviously you are just trolling and don't have a clue about the GPL. Please give one example of where a GPL app tried to remove right from and end-user? The RIAA is always tring to remove right from end-users.
I don't see Sun making Solaris Free (as in speech), just as Java really isn't Free (as in speech). Sun may totally open the source to Solaris, however that is still far from Free. You cannot go out an make your own Java implementation since it would not be "certified", and I see Sun doing the same thing with Solaris.
Also, IMO, Solaris is really only good on Sparc hardware. It just sucks on x86. The stability is not there and most software that is certified on Sparc/Solaris is not certified on x86/Solaris. Solaris's tool chain is also very, very old and crusty compared to Linux or FreeBSD. If I need some _really_ big iron, then Sparc/Solaris has always been a good choice, however for anything else, Linux/FreeBSD is just better (tm).
So basically this will be a free (as in beer) Solaris that really only runs well on expensive, proprietary hardware. So how is this any different from today? Solaris Sparc is free as in beer already. Will Sun allow a large community to contribute to Solaris? They don't with Java.
I personally think Sun should take all of their Solaris knowlege and put that into Linux. It would really lower their development costs since Sun would not have to hanlde the entire OS. They can just tweak Linux to make sure it runs great on their sparc hardware. With lower development costs, they could lower costs of their hardware and take back a good portion of the mid-range server market and even the low-end server market.
So just what was that link supposed to show asshat? Grab the change log for 2.6.6 (ChangeLog-2.6.6). Use grep and a regex to search for ibm change entries (not just the string ibm), there should be about 160 or so. No use grep and a regex to search for total changes, there should be about 1,696 or so changes. So that is what? About 9% of the changes to kernel 2.6.6 were from ibm. I wouldn't call that A large portion of linux development would suddenly halt as your original post tried to claim.
Is IBM's development important and appreciated? Yes. Would it really slow down the Linux kernel much? Nope. Someone else would pick up and run with the ball. That is one of the benefits of OSS.
It seems you are confused about how open source works and its benefits. Imagine 3 detectives looking over a murder crime scene for clues. There is only so much that three detectives can do. Now imagine 1,000 detectives all looking over the same crime scene for clues. Your odds of finding clues goes up considerably. This is similar to open source. An open source voting application would literally draw thousands (including myself) of developers interested in looking at the code. The final code would be a version that ran through the "guantlet" and passed. You wouldn't put out just any-ole-code. That would be silly and _would_ defeat the purpose of open source and would make it easier for a crimianl to under-hand the system. The code that we would use in the voting machine would be the code that passed the communities scrutiny and thus most likely found all possible holes, espeicially those that a criminal would want to take advantage of.
A large portion? Please give us links to this "large" portion of Linux development. Most of IBM's development is focused around the _Linux Kernel_. Linux will go on with or without IBM. IBM's generosity helps a lot and is much appreciated, espcially by me. However, if IBM dropped Linux, it would be just a blip on the radar of Linux development. And development would continue as normal.
You must have the brains of a rat and those who modded this "Insightful" must have equal brain power. Please tell me, what is "Insightful" in
It sounds like what he wanted was employment. Being able to make a living off of a hobby is a lofty and unrealistic goal.
Where is the "Insightful" knowledge that I should have gained from this comment? What it comes down to is this was _not_ a hobby for this guy. He worked full time and a few $BIG_COMPANIES promised him $XYZ in payment if he delivered $ABC. He delivered $ABC, and those $BIG_COMPANIES did not deliver $XYZ in payment. Most likely becuase his code was under the GPL and they could use it without his consent or their payments.
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Stop your trolling dude. What year are we in again? When was the last time people were expected to _pay_ for a web browser? Oh, that is right, you don't have to pay for opera, but you get tons of ads shoved down your face. _And_ Opera is not even close to being as standards compliant as Moz/Firefox (or even IE for that matter). I have used both extensively and Opera just chokes on too many sites. It may be fast and lightweight, but it sucks on far too many pages.
That is one important part of Moz/Firefox. You get a consistent user experience not matter what OS.
Dang! I used up my last mod points. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Switch to a more local bank that is using _your_ money to help the community and actually employs local works? It is not like BofA (or any of the "big banks") give 10% on savings accounts or something.
Oh, and by the way, I just tried cbs.sportsline.com and had _zero_ problems with firebird 0.9 under Linux and MS Windows.
Now go back to your popups, spyware, adware and expliots in IE.
OS numbers also depend on what type of sites you are getting stats from . If you look at your typical "Joe User" site then Google's numbers should be correct. If you look at more technical sites, then Google's numbers are not correct.
As for the parent poster I was replying to who said:
I don't think a 3% to 1% share would need a "microscope to see the market share" difference.Dude what crack are you smoking? Linux on the server is giving MS on the server a tough run for the money. And Linux on the desktop is on the heels of Mac. Nice try with spreading your Mac FUD. Oh, and according to some sites Linux on the desktop is already ahead of the Mac. It is time to step out of 1995.
I am a long time Gnome user and only recently have been using (and really liking) KDE. While it may seem to be reinventing the wheel, there is not much choie for a KDE developer. They cannot reuse GTK/Gnome stuff, since that would add more dependencies to a KDE desktop. Why would a KDE desktop user want Gnome/GTK dependencies? Just as why would a Gnome/GTK desktop user want QT/KDE dependencies? The two toolkits and desktops are very different and use different languages (C and C++) so the hope of reusing GTK/Gnome and QT/KDE is slim to none. They could reuse ideas, but not code. Just as it would be hard to reuse code between MS Windows and Mac OSX.
It all depends on where you look and what type of sites you get stats for. For more techie sites, Moz/Firefox is growing well, for your average Joe User, well they use what came in the box.
Have you tried a Linux webcam app? GnomeMeeting is very nice. There is also a list of others here under the "Video: Security / Webcams / Monitoring" section.
Use Azureus and download the torrent. I am downloading this torrent at around 2Mbs right now on my cable modem. FTP servers and mirrors just cannot compete with a torrent.
Yes, this code way paid for by the Bush campaign.
MS may or may not have enforced their patents in recent times, I am a programmer and not an MS analyst. Howver, MS has also never been challenged the way they have been challenged recently by Linux. While MS may have the monopoly on the desktop OS, Linux has _really_ hurt them in the last few years in the server market. Linux has grabbed about 25% of all new server shipments in the last few years. The last frontier for MS is the server. Withe Linux having a strong server market and growing as much as it is, it is really a threat to MS. I wouldn't put it past MS to pull any stunt.
Man, you have no clue about the GPL do you? You can modify GPL code as much as you want. A corporation (end-user) can even modify GPL code for their own needs and never release those changes as long as they don't try to distribute those changes. So the fortune 500 that I am a senior programmer for can take any GPL app and use it internally and make any amount of changes we want without releasing those changes. You can take a GPL app and modify it as you please and keep it "top secreat". If you want to distribute those changes, the GPL states that you must also distrubute the code. If you don't distribute, those code changes belong to you only. Get a clue about the GPL before you try to put it down.
Oh, and about your sig;
What one GPL app is suing thousands of end users for sharing code? The whole point of the GPL is to give end users more rights then what copyright gives. Obviously you are just trolling and don't have a clue about the GPL. Please give one example of where a GPL app tried to remove right from and end-user? The RIAA is always tring to remove right from end-users.Also, IMO, Solaris is really only good on Sparc hardware. It just sucks on x86. The stability is not there and most software that is certified on Sparc/Solaris is not certified on x86/Solaris. Solaris's tool chain is also very, very old and crusty compared to Linux or FreeBSD. If I need some _really_ big iron, then Sparc/Solaris has always been a good choice, however for anything else, Linux/FreeBSD is just better (tm).
So basically this will be a free (as in beer) Solaris that really only runs well on expensive, proprietary hardware. So how is this any different from today? Solaris Sparc is free as in beer already. Will Sun allow a large community to contribute to Solaris? They don't with Java.
I personally think Sun should take all of their Solaris knowlege and put that into Linux. It would really lower their development costs since Sun would not have to hanlde the entire OS. They can just tweak Linux to make sure it runs great on their sparc hardware. With lower development costs, they could lower costs of their hardware and take back a good portion of the mid-range server market and even the low-end server market.
Is IBM's development important and appreciated? Yes. Would it really slow down the Linux kernel much? Nope. Someone else would pick up and run with the ball. That is one of the benefits of OSS.
It seems you are confused about how open source works and its benefits. Imagine 3 detectives looking over a murder crime scene for clues. There is only so much that three detectives can do. Now imagine 1,000 detectives all looking over the same crime scene for clues. Your odds of finding clues goes up considerably. This is similar to open source. An open source voting application would literally draw thousands (including myself) of developers interested in looking at the code. The final code would be a version that ran through the "guantlet" and passed. You wouldn't put out just any-ole-code. That would be silly and _would_ defeat the purpose of open source and would make it easier for a crimianl to under-hand the system. The code that we would use in the voting machine would be the code that passed the communities scrutiny and thus most likely found all possible holes, espeicially those that a criminal would want to take advantage of.
A large portion? Please give us links to this "large" portion of Linux development. Most of IBM's development is focused around the _Linux Kernel_. Linux will go on with or without IBM. IBM's generosity helps a lot and is much appreciated, espcially by me. However, if IBM dropped Linux, it would be just a blip on the radar of Linux development. And development would continue as normal.