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SUSE 9.1 Personal ISO Available For Free Download
twener writes "DistroWatch.com was the first to report that a complete, bootable, and installable ISO image of SUSE LINUX 9.1 Personal has appeared on SUSE's ftp server and its mirrors. No public announcement on SUSE's website is available yet. This is the first time ever that SUSE makes an ISO for i386 of one of its product flavors available. Don't forget that after installation you can install the packages of the SUSE 9.1 FTP version with GPL'ed YaST to gain an almost (commercial parts missing) SUSE 9.1 Professional installation."
This should help the adoption rate of SUSE, much like it did for Red Hat.
This is the first time ever that SUSE makes an ISO for i386 of one of its product flavors available
Except of course for the LiveCDs.
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I saw it just now and wondered what it was. It's only 1 CD though... is it the same as the boxed set of the SuSE Personal Edition, or did they leave stuff out?
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Wow! I mean so what? It was never all that difficult to get SuSE before. Are they worried that everyones going to go for a free distro instead, like they have been all this time.
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Is an AMD64-architecture ISO available?
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SuSE will be at higher grounds if thay fully support personal distribution and it will take away some many users of (RH) Fedora
Insomnia struck and I decided to try out Linux again. I got the Live CD first, then pulled down the personal ISO at 300 KB/sec from GA Tech.
I guess I got lucky. If someone will setup a tracker, I'd be glad to seed for a while.
Looks like just more of Novell moving SUSE in the direction of its own vision. Ximan Desktop, Exchange connector, GPL of Yast, etc. This isn't really that much of a shock. Though, it is another welcome change.
I just downloaded the whole i386/9.1 tree minus the src directory and burned it to a DVD using mkisofs and an iso burning program, and it worked fine for me. It was a professional edition.
This is plainly false. This is not the first time SuSE distributes their Linux Distro CD image. I remember back in 1997 or so, SuSE used to distribute their ISO's. That was even before their split their product versions in personal and professional. Last version I kind of remember they did that was 6.4.
About a year and a half ago I wrote a script to parse the file list on the SuSE FTP server, find which files go on which CDs, download them, and create ISOs, then using the boot section off of their network install CD make the first one bootable. Full SuSE professional (commercial parts missing) for free! All on CDs!
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9.1 has to be the biggest threat to windows yet. I dropped the DVD in and everything *everything* I needed was there and ready to use. Even things like my Wifi network worked without any configuration and it played every video/music file I tried to open. On the install it updated all the installed modules from a local FTP server with nothing more than a mouseclick. These are the things that if they don't work out of the box can throw off people who are not willing to search google for 45 minutes to find out how it set up.
This is the first distro I have seen that I would consider the real "Windows Killer". The release of an ISO will put it into the hands of a LOT more people.
The only concern I have is that some of the more useful features may have been yanked due to space limitations. I believe the DVD is over 2GB, versus a 600MB ISO...
What post? The one you're carrying inside your rusty innards!
YaST is now GPL but how does that apply to the rest of the software in Suse personal and professional? I downloaded a copy of the ISOs for SuSE pro 9.1 from a private FTP site that I found on LinuxISO.org. But I've never been sure how legal that was.
A Linux Users Group that I am a member of was asked a couple of years ago to stop selling or even giving out copies of SuSE. They said they didn't mind if you copy for a friend but any organized duping they would take action against.
Has this changed? And could someone point to an offical statement from SuSE?
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In my opinion, the mirror system is so outdated. Who is going to take the first step to make these ISO available via BitTorrent? I only have a 50gb monthly bandwidth allowance on my host; I am not sure that this would be enough to run a tracker for such a (presumably - because I use Fedora) popular download.
Quote: "Download from here: SUSE-9.1-personal-x86.iso (700MB) or try one of the official SUSE mirrors"
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I have not heard anything that YaST was actually GPL'd yet. Where can I download it?
Main FTP now running at 10.6 kb/s steady for US West Coast.
It is holding up well for being slashdoted.
I found another mirror doing 160 kb/s but it wont last for long =(
> This is the first time ever that SUSE makes an ISO for i386 of one of its product flavors available.
And what did I get on PC-Plus October '98 edition?
BTW, it rocked and it sucked, because...
Now that I know Linux, I see that Slackware-based distros are "the best". They even are simpler, from a technical standpoint. OTOH, they're bad for newbies (compared, e.g., to Knoppix), which is what I was then.
I think that when version 8 came out, they started having an ftp install. The iso was a live-cd.
They had some special program for education at one point, and I filled out the info to get the distro mailed to me. It was the live-cd too. Woof...
I'm glad to see this, because I think it increases mindshare. If the user base is larger, people go to the trouble of writing howtos and building specific rpms.
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I downloaded the whole 7G of 9.1 because I wanted to go 2.6 kernel and I have never had so many problems with any distro. I've had 9.0 running for ages just fine.
I first tried a clean install but at the point where the installer runs up off the network (smb install) it said I had no keyboard. So I then did a clean 9.0 which went fine, follwed by a system update off the network. Right at the end it gave me an error message saying it couldn't install LILO - wtf was it trying to because I had GRUB!!
I re-did it, selected LILO instead of GRUB and it worked. I then made the mistake of pulling the kernel of the day and ended up with a system that refused to mount the root FS. That was even after a recompile to put Reiser and EXT3 in the kernel rather than modules.
I like Suse a lot - I must given I've gone back to 9.0 still. I'm just flagging that (for me at least) 9.1 was a flaky install.
I've always wondered what the advantage of paying for SUSE is? I mean from the user stand point, I understand the desire to support the "community", but when I can get all the same software from other distros for the cost of download time and a couple of blank CDs.
Mandrake is easy to install and configure, Fedora is extremely powerful, Gentoo is geeky beyond belief and Debian is solid as a rock. It seems that all niches have been filled already.
The FTP install disc was pretty good, imo.. small iso download size, and once you got the install going it isn't that much of a PITA to install...all fairly standard GUI stuff AFAI recall. My only real complaint abou t it was that you had to konw the FTP server that you were going to install from., which is maybe not something that a newb would konw how to search for all that easily...a form of querying the server and getting a list of available FTP sites would probably be a boon for users; since they've already got a live CD distro they would do well to add a "install from live CD applet a la mepis or knoppix. SuSE was the first distro that I paid foor and that was mostly because the first linux CD i got was debian's 1.2 (or was it 2.0? don't remember) CD and that debian disc wasn't too friendly an install for a newbb ....SuSE was MUCH friendlier and worth the 30$ for the box ...now, most distros are pretty much the same and have similar feature sets especially w/r/t friendliness)
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Mandrake 10 Community did the same for me -- haven't tried suse yet, I primarily use lfs with no need for testing 'new' distros.
*meh* Comments on Mandrake 10?
I've also asked about this before in the irc.freenode.net/#suse. It seems that it's GPLed, but its development is not free (i.e. in novell forge). That's the trick.
I'd love it being in novell/source-forge, I hope that with time its development will go free. In fact, anyone can already get the YAST2 source code from the ftp mirrors and start a new branch. I wouldn't be surprised if a new distro adapt yast and make it, for example, a bit less fat and slow :-).
Although a ftp intall was possible, it is nice to have an iso.
Suse made the right thing. I didn't bother with the ftp install but this will make me try Suse.
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tried to install Suse 9.1 FTP the other day. when i went to the list of network card modules, there were NONE for Linksys. wtf?
You can just wget the whole 9.1 directory and use that to install using NFS or FTP over your own network. It's fast and no need to swap out CD drives to systems that don't normally use them.
well good thing i didnt order the personal eddition, came close to getting it just to have an easy install for faimly and friends machines. I think this is a great move for SuSE, i currently use 9.1 pro and love it, just need to find away to finsh getting my MS apps moved over to SuSE, with evolution and exchange connector i am down to just 1 app, MSN Messenger 6.x i use it for webcams with famliy, if i can just get them moved over to linux :) then i can get off windows
I was running SuSE 9.1 Pro (Base with Develop install) and I could not play a DVD without XINE complaining about dropping too many frames, probably because of a lack of processor power. Machine is 500MHz PII with 256 MB RAM and 2x80 MB HD's, ATI Radeon 7500 LE video and SB16 audio (may be a dinosaur but it still rocks!). Reinstalled Slack 9.1 (full install) and after fixing permissions for the drives, I can run a full compile and watch a DVD in full screen with no hiccup or complaint from XINE as where with SuSE it was XINE only in a small screen. I wonder if this may be a possible sign of F/OSS software bloat trying to be all for all and trying to be better than M$ configurations. When I change the mobo to Athlon64, I may consider using the 64-bit version of SuSE 9.1 but I am really worried that SuSE will be a resource hog. Both installs were stock with no tweaking or trimming. I realize that this was not a scientific test whatsoever but first impressions count greatly, especially for the newbie starting to investigate using F/OSS. The answer to 64-bit question will have to wait for the fall.
I lose my internet connection at least every two hours and would love to have even a 28.8 connection.
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An ISO is a dream come true for people like me. Way to go SUSE! Now I can see what all the hoopla is about.
I recently bought the Suse personal 9.1 box, and although it was impressive how easy it was to get a working KDE desktop system, I really felt hemmed in afterward. The Suse repository only has a very limited set of applications. When I asked around about how you install other apps, people told me either "Oh, generic RPMs usually work," or "Here are a couple of sites where people will point you to individuals' web pages where they host RPMs." I guess I've just been spoiled by FreeBSD's ports system, which has thousands of apps, including virtually every app I ever need to run. I'm really not that excited about downloading binary RPMs from people I don't know -- that's a little too much like unsafe sex. If generic RPMs usually work, that's cool, but then what's the advantage of Suse?
My impression is that Mandrake has a much bigger set of apps available -- is this correct? Even if you have to join Mandrake Club to get them from Mandrake, at least joining the club is an option, and if you don't join, you're just in the same situation as with Suse: werbsurf for someone's personal site where they've packaged the app.
Please don't take this as a troll or a "my distro is better than yours" post -- I'm really curious to know what people think about Mandrake versus Suse. Although I'm now using FreeBSD myself, I'm curious what would be a good distro to recommend to a newbie, and AFAICT Suse isn't it.
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While they may have offered FTP install, many of us prefer something we can actually download and install OFF-LINE, for various reasons.
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Does the SuSE 9.1 personal edition include the development stuff like gcc compilers?
I'm a Suse user, I'm typing this on my Suse 9.1 box right now. I love Suse, but I have to say that from what I've seen, the personal releases are crap. /. it seemed like only the proprietary software and some advanced server stuff would be missing.
I remember not too long ago, a friend of mine was wanting to try out a new Linux distrobution. He'd used Mandrake a bit, but still hadn't learned a lot about linux. I suggested that he go buy a copy of Suse 9.1 because the manuals are really nice, and the ftp version wasn't available yet.
He took my advice, but got the personal version to save money (who can blame him). I didn't think there would be too much difference, I've only used pro, but from reading comments here on
Nope
Suse 9.1 personal is more like a Windows install than a Linux install. It comes with practically nothing you would assume would be in a linux installation. No server software at all, no development tools, it was a very anorexic distrobution in my opinion.
It seems to me it would be much nicer if Suse would have released ISOs of what can be had from the ftp version so people could torrent it.
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This makes no sense to me. If all the software SUSE distributes on this ISO is licensed under the GNU GPL (or if it is all licensed under any set of free software licenses), anyone should be able to distribute copies for profit. One of the criteria for a license to qualify as a free software license is that it must allow commercial distribution.
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Someone at OSNews.com posted that tux.org has SuSE ISOs, and I found torrents here.
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http://www.tux.org/pub/distributions/SuSE/i386/
No, you will have to install them with Yast from ftp if you need them.
SUSE-9.1-personal-iso.torrent
SUSE-9.1-personal-iso.torrent
If I want to sell disks, is that OK. I'd like to start selling linux boxen locally but as things stand now, there's no way I could compete paying more than a few bucks for the OS. You just couldn't compete with Dell/Gateway/etc's hardware buying power and then tag on $50 bucks for an OS after that. The margines are already too slim and people are too happy to take Dell's "free" tech support (never mind how worthless it is).
Sure there's Mandrake/Fedora/Debain, but they've all given me _tons_ of problems on the elcheap hardware I've tried loading them on (oddly enough, old Gateway computers).
And yeah, I know I should support SuSu, and $5 or $10 bucks a box would be fine. But I doubt I could sell enough boxes to buy a large OEM contract (there's Linspire, but I've yet to get it loaded and usable on anything less than a 700mhz processor, but I havn't tried it with the ultra fast Gnome 2.6 though).
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I feel kind of lucky that I put off actually buying the easy-to-install version of SuSE now that I can download it for free. $30 is a good deal; free is better.
seed it on Bittorrent? The bandwidth will be more useful.
Trying to install from the ISO under VMWare 4.5.1 Build 7568... at the point where YAST initializes the display splits into 4 quarters and becomes nearly impossible to make out...
Somebody's paying for it. Just not you.
is every new release of a distribution newsworthy? are *any* new releases newsworthy at this point? /. would do better to have a 'latest release news box' and leave it at that.
I've had few problems with SuSE at all...
When I do have a problem, manpages, newsgroups and manual digging fixed things more frequently than the manuals ever did. Often enough the answer is on the SuSE website in plain english to be printed out for explicit use.
I buy the updates these days and then do a fresh install. I have 9.0 and don't intend to update the thing until I have problems building tarballs from scratch.
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There's also a tutorial on the forums on Linuxiso.org Here which details how to download a copy of the FTP mirror, and create a full bootable DVD from the mirror, which contains everything the professional DVD has, barring the proprietary stuff.
i got the 5Cds SuSe9.1 Pro. pure deception.
/etc files for the new one. Besides all the packages are so tweaked to fit in suse's "fixes" that you will NEVER be able to run some outsider.
My 700mhz Atlhon couldn't keep it up. Almost 20s~1min to open apps (from kmail, to yast)
And yast is now just like the package manage from irix. 30min reading the installed ones. 30min tweaking the
Well, i'm back to windows (yeah, you read right) with my slackware sidekick.
My gf is now using it. it runs better in hers 1.3ghz duron. But she's stuck with the suse rpms. For example, if you try to install firefox 0.9 NOTHING will work until you reinstall the 0.8 from the rpm.
The only thing i was able to run was Xine. Because i endured the headache to make it work... screw codec pattent.
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Can some suse expert here post the exact easy step by step to get the professional ISO for a suse noob like me?
I have installed many of the other linuxes no sweat, but suse has failed for me everytime. Those ftp installs are absolutely brutal.
I'm curious what would be a good distro to recommend to a newbie, and AFAICT Suse isn't it.
I've recently tried out the Linspire distro (formerly Lindows), and can attest that it is by far the most user friendly newbie distro around. The Click-N-Run menu is spectacular for non-techies who want to run certain popular programs but would run screaming away from compiling them. What's especially nice is that Linspire is actually a modified version of Debian, so newbies have the choice of using apt-get and Synaptic as they feel more comfortable with Linux, or get tired of paying $5 a month for the convenience of Click-N-Run. (And to be honest, $5 a month isn't much to pay to keep Mom happy.) I highly recommend checking it out.
Holy cow, 7.4K/sec if I'm lucky. And that's from a very lightly used T1. 14 hours left.. ugh.
Anybody have a US mirror of this ISO yet?
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get SuSE installed without getting hit by worms? You need to get online to get the patches, and as soon as I do my computer reboots! I should also mention that I am against routers because of religious belief.
I'm kidding, but seriously, download the torrent