A wget combined with some regular expressions and importing into OpenOffice Calc (couldn't be bothered with perl) shows that your acquaintance probably is involved with The Book of Cool - Learn from the best!:)
They're the only ones that paid exactly $4000 for a single ad. They're also #17 on the list of who paid the most money.
Man, I'm bored...
Funny thing was that I noticed that ad for some reason before going through the above steps. Now they get a link from Slashdot too. Oh well. Moving on to the beer.
Wow, thanks a lot! That was incredible. People, check it out! Don't forget to turn up the volume. I played 20 rooms before realising that there probably was a soundtrack as well. The sound is very important for the experience.
I'd consider it an installation more than a game, though (don't know if "installation" is the correct word in English, they're usual in modern art exhibitions, and usually technical in nature).
Yeah, I bought a Nikon Coolpix 7900 from Cameta, and they were great. It was cheap, inkluded a lot of accessories (bag, mini tripod, extra battery, extra CF card and more), delivered swiftly.
I will give them my business in the future:)
The gift-marking didn't fool the Norwegian Customs, though...
But have you ever examined the idea of astrology seriously? There's 4000 years worth of empirical evidence for it.
OK, that does it. Say WHAT!?
On thread, replying to your post(No karma bonus): I see your argument as being against an intelligent designer, here's why: If this designer is intelligent (and non-evil), why do we have an appendix that serves no function (as far as I know the cancer argument is not proven), but can be fatal to you? Why haven't hegdehogs evolved to NOT huddle in the same place when a car is coming? Why do wolves, bears and other predators kill far more prey than they need, given the opportunity? Why do moths willingly fly into open fire that will kill them?
Yes, I'm worried. My beef is not with belief. People can go around in their own homes believing that the sky is green, I don't care. Belief is a great boon to a lot of people, nothing wrong with that.
What worries me is that the youth in the arguably most powerful nation on Earth should be "presented with both sides", which implies that ID (=creationism in disguise) is scientific. Those kids might believe that the tactics of ID is valid science, and may fall for similar rhetoric in other, far more serious cases. Even worse, they ridicule the principles of logic and reason, which are essential tools for all persons, not only scientists.
Even as a non-USian, I worry. You guys (I assume that you're from the US) have quite a bit of impact in countries other than your own.
Hey, we're sig-mates! The names of countries, nationalities, and specific languages should be capitalized. Thus, English and German:) Like your general nouns, I believe?
While I agree with you (see my other posts), please go easy on the ridicule. That's their strategy, not ours:) It'll backfire. Creationism isn't a scientific theory, -hypothesis or -anything, because it doesn't fit the formal requirements for being one (not testable, no predictions, an so on). Thus your flamebait mod. And now, my turn:)
The 1337 haxx0r that, after social-engineering your receptionist, your security people and your colleagues, wants to get a copy of your customer database and your shadow file before you get back from getting another coffee:)
Yup. Cue the chain e-mails: "Did you know that $organization is HEATHEN? They support this 'evolution' exhibition, which is like spitting in the face of God! BOYCOTT! And forward this to all your friends!"
It is sad. But, corporates don't want that kind of attention.
As a side note, various large US retailers greet their customers with 'Happy Holiday' instead of 'Merry Christmas', since a significant percentage of their customers don't celebrate Christmas. They celebrate Kwanza, Chanukkah (sp?) an so forth. This has altso caused chain e-mails from Christians.
As to my knowledge, they have yet to find fossils of the "half-breed" (for lack of a better term) creatures that were part this and part that.
Either your knowledge is bad, or you're just flogging the dead horse about "gaps" in the succession of fossils. A common request from creationist is for proponents of evolution to "supply the intermediate fossil". They do, and then: "Oh, but now you have TWO gaps. Find the two intermediate fossils". Which leads to four "gaps".
Do you have any idea how rare the circumstances under which a fossil will be created really are? In spite of that, paleontologists have closed a whole freaking lot of gaps. Side note: That's a conundrum in itself to young earthers: Since the circumstances are so rare, why so many fossils?
On the third hand, you probably knew that. You're just trolling (Ad hominem:)
As you said, the minority is extremely vocal - still, the only reason they are persuasive enough to affect any sort of political change is because people are generally supportive of what they have to say.
I agree wholeheartedly.
One of the main problems in the Creationism-ID vs Evolution debate is that the protagonists in the debate have fundamentally different perspectives. The scientists will try to argue their points in a logically valid manner, and trust people to see that their arguments in fact ARE valid. Scientist are in search of the truth, and argue accordingly.
The creationism people are not interested in that, they already HAVE the truth, and their main point is to win the debate. In order to do so, they will try to make the scientist look stupid by any means. This includes direct and provable lies, omission of facts that don't suit them, ad hominem attacks, clever rhetoric and a range of other unscientific methods. I have seen debates where creationists in reality are pure predicants. Scientists aren't trained for this type of debate, and "lose" in the eyes of the audience even if the opposition cannot present one valid argument, whilst the scientist has many.
See Michael Schermer "Why people believe weird things" (1997, 2002), Part III "Evolution and Creationism" for an excellent discussion of this. In spite of the title, the book is very level-headed:)
The sad thing is that now the ID proponents try to introduce their rhetoric in U.S. schools as science, which may lead pupils to believe that this is valid science. Creationism is about faith, nothing bad about that, but it is NOT science until it follows scientific guidelines.
Go ahead, mod me flamebait if you must, I don't care about karma. But - read the excerpt from the book I mentioned first.
Damn, you're right. A little manual binary search discloses that it will disappear at exactly 12:00 Jan. 1st 2100. Spooky:) Maybe fourmilab has some evil, long-term plan? Too bad they gave it away in a little seemingly innocent script.
No, I think he wants to keep them from having public opinions, which may or may not include their views on the school and it's practices.
If I am wrong, he should also clean up the school's homepage. I mean, posting pictures and names like this post links to is against his policy*. So where does that leave the honesty of his reasons?
* The link really is to the school in question, strip path and subdomain from the link in the referred post to go here. Check their street address.
If I recall correctly, Spielberg wrote part of the story in an adventure game called "The Dig" from LucasArts. While not the greatest adventure game ever, I still enjoyed it a lot.
Don't know if that is relevant at all, TFA doesn't mention which type of game they will be working on (except for the information-free statement "Work has already started on the first of the three projects, which EA says will be a next generation game which appeals to a broad audience.")
This gives room above and below for expansion, and means that I know a card is faster, in that brand/generation, if the number is higher.
The consumer is not supposed to know. You remember the SE editions of 9xxx series, or the nVidia mx cards? You're supposed to buy them without knowing that they're ridiculously underpowered, contrary to what you'd deduce from the model numbers. Then you'll need to upgrade sooner. The high-end gamers always know, people like me suffer. I know, do your research prior to buying, but as long as 80% of consumers don't, they can pull off crap like that. Oh well.
Thanks for your reply! It helped clarifying what you meant a little.
"...I am willing to do some study to get a fuller understanding of that passage..." No need to do that for my sake, I have a lot of Christian friends who are happy to enlighten me:) In fact, I am not religious myself, as you probably have gathered, so I think it's a little bit unfair of me to occupy your time in this manner...
I've read the bible partly because it's a very important background to our society (Norway), and partly to be able to have somewhat intelligent discussions with my friends. Having done that, what I don't get at all is the need some Christians have to uncompromisingly defend the O.T. Frankly, it contains lots of pretty horrendous behaviour and attitudes on God's part.
FWIW, I do kind of envy the safety and joy you Christians experience because of your faith. One cannot just choose to believe, however. I just don't.
Well, nothing personal, BTW by all means educate yourself on matters of faith that interest you!
Raping? No. I know of no instance where God commanded someone to rape anyone.
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Notice that your parent post never stated that he commanded anything of the sort. He said "endorsing". (Well, of course you noticed...)
I though I remembered something about that from my (superficial) reading of the bible, this post explains it better than I can hope to.
Killing? Yes Pillaging? Yes (...) Sin (lack of doing what is completely and entirely right) must be punished. God's mercy causes Him to defer punishment, but His justice demands that sin be punished.
While He is benevolent, "it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
That makes no sense. Isn't he supposed to be forgiving as well?
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Mr. McKillip, is that you?
A wget combined with some regular expressions and importing into OpenOffice Calc (couldn't be bothered with perl) shows that your acquaintance probably is involved with The Book of Cool - Learn from the best! :)
They're the only ones that paid exactly $4000 for a single ad. They're also #17 on the list of who paid the most money.
Man, I'm bored...
Funny thing was that I noticed that ad for some reason before going through the above steps. Now they get a link from Slashdot too. Oh well. Moving on to the beer.
Wow, thanks a lot! That was incredible. People, check it out!
:)
Don't forget to turn up the volume. I played 20 rooms before realising that there probably was a soundtrack as well. The sound is very important for the experience.
I'd consider it an installation more than a game, though (don't know if "installation" is the correct word in English, they're usual in modern art exhibitions, and usually technical in nature).
Do you know of more games like this? Share
Yeah, I bought a Nikon Coolpix 7900 from Cameta, and they were great. It was cheap, inkluded a lot of accessories (bag, mini tripod, extra battery, extra CF card and more), delivered swiftly. I will give them my business in the future :)
The gift-marking didn't fool the Norwegian Customs, though...
You might be interested in Doom as an Interface for Process Management :)
Want to kill a process? Just frag it.
OK, that does it. Say WHAT!?
On thread, replying to your post(No karma bonus):
I see your argument as being against an intelligent designer, here's why:
If this designer is intelligent (and non-evil), why do we have an appendix that serves no function (as far as I know the cancer argument is not proven), but can be fatal to you?
Why haven't hegdehogs evolved to NOT huddle in the same place when a car is coming?
Why do wolves, bears and other predators kill far more prey than they need, given the opportunity?
Why do moths willingly fly into open fire that will kill them?
I don't know why I'm even doing this...
Haha, you got me for a second there. Want to have a look at my Write Only Memory as storage for your high security data?
Yes, I'm worried.
My beef is not with belief. People can go around in their own homes believing that the sky is green, I don't care. Belief is a great boon to a lot of people, nothing wrong with that.
What worries me is that the youth in the arguably most powerful nation on Earth should be "presented with both sides", which implies that ID (=creationism in disguise) is scientific. Those kids might believe that the tactics of ID is valid science, and may fall for similar rhetoric in other, far more serious cases.
Even worse, they ridicule the principles of logic and reason, which are essential tools for all persons, not only scientists.
Even as a non-USian, I worry. You guys (I assume that you're from the US) have quite a bit of impact in countries other than your own.
Hey, we're sig-mates! :)
The names of countries, nationalities, and specific languages should be capitalized. Thus, English and German
Like your general nouns, I believe?
While I agree with you (see my other posts), please go easy on the ridicule. That's their strategy, not ours :) It'll backfire. :)
Creationism isn't a scientific theory, -hypothesis or -anything, because it doesn't fit the formal requirements for being one (not testable, no predictions, an so on).
Thus your flamebait mod. And now, my turn
Yup. Cue the chain e-mails:
"Did you know that $organization is HEATHEN? They support this 'evolution' exhibition, which is like spitting in the face of God! BOYCOTT! And forward this to all your friends!"
It is sad. But, corporates don't want that kind of attention.
As a side note, various large US retailers greet their customers with 'Happy Holiday' instead of 'Merry Christmas', since a significant percentage of their customers don't celebrate Christmas. They celebrate Kwanza, Chanukkah (sp?) an so forth. This has altso caused chain e-mails from Christians.
Example from Snopes.
Probably St. Peter. :)
Here you go
Either your knowledge is bad, or you're just flogging the dead horse about "gaps" in the succession of fossils.
A common request from creationist is for proponents of evolution to "supply the intermediate fossil".
They do, and then: "Oh, but now you have TWO gaps. Find the two intermediate fossils". Which leads to four "gaps".
Do you have any idea how rare the circumstances under which a fossil will be created really are? In spite of that, paleontologists have closed a whole freaking lot of gaps. Side note: That's a conundrum in itself to young earthers: Since the circumstances are so rare, why so many fossils?
On the third hand, you probably knew that. You're just trolling (Ad hominem
Stupid of me, I misspelt the author's name, it's "Michael Shermer". :)
Just in case anyone wants to check it out
I agree wholeheartedly.
One of the main problems in the Creationism-ID vs Evolution debate is that the protagonists in the debate have fundamentally different perspectives. The scientists will try to argue their points in a logically valid manner, and trust people to see that their arguments in fact ARE valid. Scientist are in search of the truth, and argue accordingly.
The creationism people are not interested in that, they already HAVE the truth, and their main point is to win the debate. In order to do so, they will try to make the scientist look stupid by any means. This includes direct and provable lies, omission of facts that don't suit them, ad hominem attacks, clever rhetoric and a range of other unscientific methods. I have seen debates where creationists in reality are pure predicants. Scientists aren't trained for this type of debate, and "lose" in the eyes of the audience even if the opposition cannot present one valid argument, whilst the scientist has many.
See Michael Schermer "Why people believe weird things" (1997, 2002), Part III "Evolution and Creationism" for an excellent discussion of this. In spite of the title, the book is very level-headed
The sad thing is that now the ID proponents try to introduce their rhetoric in U.S. schools as science, which may lead pupils to believe that this is valid science. Creationism is about faith, nothing bad about that, but it is NOT science until it follows scientific guidelines.
Go ahead, mod me flamebait if you must, I don't care about karma. But - read the excerpt from the book I mentioned first.
Damn, you're right. A little manual binary search discloses that it will disappear at exactly 12:00 Jan. 1st 2100. :)
Spooky
Maybe fourmilab has some evil, long-term plan? Too bad they gave it away in a little seemingly innocent script.
Damn, the link to the post didn't seem to work.
Here is the linked photo from the site
No, I think he wants to keep them from having public opinions, which may or may not include their views on the school and it's practices.
If I am wrong, he should also clean up the school's homepage. I mean, posting pictures and names like this post links to is against his policy*. So where does that leave the honesty of his reasons?
* The link really is to the school in question, strip path and subdomain from the link in the referred post to go here. Check their street address.
Are you sure your link shouldn't be pointing to http://tinyurl.com/a5m6m?
:)
Just had to try tinyurl, I think it was designed for uses just like this
If I recall correctly, Spielberg wrote part of the story in an adventure game called "The Dig" from LucasArts. While not the greatest adventure game ever, I still enjoyed it a lot.
Don't know if that is relevant at all, TFA doesn't mention which type of game they will be working on (except for the information-free statement "Work has already started on the first of the three projects, which EA says will be a next generation game which appeals to a broad audience.")
The consumer is not supposed to know. You remember the SE editions of 9xxx series, or the nVidia mx cards?
You're supposed to buy them without knowing that they're ridiculously underpowered, contrary to what you'd deduce from the model numbers. Then you'll need to upgrade sooner.
The high-end gamers always know, people like me suffer.
I know, do your research prior to buying, but as long as 80% of consumers don't, they can pull off crap like that.
Oh well.
Thanks for your reply!
:)
:)
It helped clarifying what you meant a little.
"...I am willing to do some study to get a fuller understanding of that passage..."
No need to do that for my sake, I have a lot of Christian friends who are happy to enlighten me
In fact, I am not religious myself, as you probably have gathered, so I think it's a little bit unfair of me to occupy your time in this manner...
I've read the bible partly because it's a very important background to our society (Norway), and partly to be able to have somewhat intelligent discussions with my friends. Having done that, what I don't get at all is the need some Christians have to uncompromisingly defend the O.T.
Frankly, it contains lots of pretty horrendous behaviour and attitudes on God's part.
FWIW, I do kind of envy the safety and joy you Christians experience because of your faith. One cannot just choose to believe, however. I just don't.
Well, nothing personal, BTW by all means educate yourself on matters of faith that interest you!
Take care
Notice that your parent post never stated that he commanded anything of the sort. He said "endorsing". (Well, of course you noticed...)
I though I remembered something about that from my (superficial) reading of the bible, this post explains it better than I can hope to.
That makes no sense. Isn't he supposed to be forgiving as well?