Apple made their repuptation with 'Think Different' (a jibe at IBM's old 'THINK!' slogan) and have always denegrated the corporate culture, prefering to be the hip, arty guys in black, roll-neck sweaters. They have always encouraged cultish behavior and a sense of (misplaced) elitism in their user base.
I don't suppose differently-thinking marketing execs at Apple ever thought they'd want to sell into big, bad corporations. But oh look! suddenly they do!
I guess the old adage 'you reap what you sew' fits nicely.
>>some people use MS apps that arent compatible with much
Some people?
1) The overwhelming number (like 99.87%) of businesses use the MS Office suite, and expect others to do the same, just so they can do 'business' with each other and stuff.
2) The things that MS apps aren't compatible with == nobody gives a shit!
Whether you like this situation or not, it is the status quo.
No amount of wishfull thinking, bitching and moaning or fantasizing is going to change it.
Absolutley. Freedom to some people just means they are free to go on a rampage and murder the very neighbours they peacefully coexisted with under the previous 'tyrany'.
IMHO the period of the Cold War was one of the safest and most peaceful ever. It kept the lid on a lot of hate (religious, racial, territorial etc.).
Just like Saddam in Iraq - that's the leadership they needed! A "strong man". A brute that would keep them in line!
Now what have they got? Freedom(tm) and total chaos and destruction.
Working intensly on one single thing (esp. software) just fucks your brain eventually.
Your partner, kids, family and friends should be the biggest kick in your life, not some stupid pile of fucking code.
I used to be really proud to be a software designer, thinking software apps were a big boon to mankind. The more I look around me, the more I think that computer tech (and particularly the web) is isolating and dehumanising us all.
True, but this mini runs nothing but Windows XP. I have another mini that runs nothing but OS X. I use a cheap little Belkin KVM to share keyboard and mouse but each mini has it's own LCD panel. Mac Minis are cheap and small enough for this to be viable solution for me. Maybe I'll get a third to run some flavor of Linux - they look very neat stacked up!
How does it show MS is a monopoly (which it is, but your reasoning doesn't prove it) ?
Win 98 and ME will keep on chugging along until the hardware dies and then the user will buy a Dell or somesuch with XP (or maybe Vista!). It won't suddenly stop working because it's EOL'd.
What would you have MS do - support obsolete products for ever? Yeah - like all OS vendors do (not).
Do you just get off on making stupid and inane statements like that?
Whoo hoo - look at me everybody! I'm Alien54 and I can make stupid and crass comments about rich and powerful people on the Interweb and nobody will ever know it's me!!!
I agree that crappy install (and uninstall) software can leave a few files and registry entries lying around, but I fail to see how this will make a system significantly slower and slower over time.
I have about 20 W2K SP2 boxes that run 24x7 under heavy transaction loads (serving midlayer COM components to front-end DB2). None of these have had an unscheduled reboot in over 2 years. No resource creep. No performance degredation. In fact, no issues at all.
I think the old gripe of "windows won't stay up for more than a few days" is wearing very, very thin indeed.
It's not 'interesting', it is just pure BS and FUD in equal measure.
I run OSX, Win2K WinServer2003, and WinXP - I *never* have to reboot due to performance problems or stability issues.
I have used various Linux distros and OSS apps and the word 'predictability' doesn't exactly spring to mind!
I like Linux for non-interactive roles such as servers (web/mail) servers in particular, but no way is it hitting my desktop or my clients' desktops any time soon.
Actually the new Intel Duo core Macs do a fine job of running XP under bootcamp. Solid as a rock, and fast too. I have a mini as a desktop (running XP about 75% of the time for dev work) and a MacbookPro on order. It's the best of both worlds!
I think Windows gets a bad rap for stability largely because people insist on running it on shitty hardware.
They impose a new design with IMO rather poor usability. They don't provide an article where users can comment. Comments in other threads are then deemed 'offtopic'.
Well done to the people who designed this gadget. It's very neat, but more importantly, it points the way ahead for 'commodity' computing, I think.
I imagine soon, everyday computing for most people will revolve around one or more I/O devices they have access to (mobile phones, TV's, terms in public spaces and cafes etc.)
CPU power, memory, bandwidth, storage and usage of applications will be provided by large network suppliers.
Nobody's going to stop you running and maintaining your own box, but most people will just buy the I/O device (display, cam, audio, keyboard, mouse 'unit' etc.) packaged in whatever form they prefer - much as they buy cellphones now.
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Exactly!
Apple made their repuptation with 'Think Different' (a jibe at IBM's old 'THINK!' slogan) and have always denegrated the corporate culture, prefering to be the hip, arty guys in black, roll-neck sweaters. They have always encouraged cultish behavior and a sense of (misplaced) elitism in their user base.
I don't suppose differently-thinking marketing execs at Apple ever thought they'd want to sell into big, bad corporations. But oh look! suddenly they do!
I guess the old adage 'you reap what you sew' fits nicely.
>>Not to mention a spelling-free zone.
Absofeckinlutely!
BTW very good link -> no2id!!
I think you're confusing Slashdot's editorial standards with those that operate in the real world.
This is a grammer-free zone.
>>some people use MS apps that arent compatible with much
Some people?
1) The overwhelming number (like 99.87%) of businesses use the MS Office suite, and expect others to do the same, just so they can do 'business' with each other and stuff.
2) The things that MS apps aren't compatible with == nobody gives a shit!
Whether you like this situation or not, it is the status quo.
No amount of wishfull thinking, bitching and moaning or fantasizing is going to change it.
And when where you elected to speak for 'everyone here at Slashdot'?
Absolutley. Freedom to some people just means they are free to go on a rampage and murder the very neighbours they peacefully coexisted with under the previous 'tyrany'.
IMHO the period of the Cold War was one of the safest and most peaceful ever. It kept the lid on a lot of hate (religious, racial, territorial etc.).
Just like Saddam in Iraq - that's the leadership they needed! A "strong man". A brute that would keep them in line!
Now what have they got? Freedom(tm) and total chaos and destruction.
Freedom is a great thing! Yay!
I think there's truth there.
Working intensly on one single thing (esp. software) just fucks your brain eventually.
Your partner, kids, family and friends should be the biggest kick in your life, not some stupid pile of fucking code.
I used to be really proud to be a software designer, thinking software apps were a big boon to mankind. The more I look around me, the more I think that computer tech (and particularly the web) is isolating and dehumanising us all.
Sorry all,
My manager thought it would be nice to post a few mindless, incenduary comments while I was away from my desk.
Good job Garry Copeland - you fucking jerk.
More God-bothering, greedy, gun-obsessed, sickos and psychos!
Just what the World needs.
Yes, I know. My comment was made slightly tongue in cheek.
Much as I prefer FireFox, I don't think IE is quite so bad these days. Lessons have been learned - even at Redmond.
True, but this mini runs nothing but Windows XP. I have another mini that runs nothing but OS X. I use a cheap little Belkin KVM to share keyboard and mouse but each mini has it's own LCD panel. Mac Minis are cheap and small enough for this to be viable solution for me. Maybe I'll get a third to run some flavor of Linux - they look very neat stacked up!
>> would be nuts not to force employees to use Firefox for everything
Well, so much for the cornucopia of choice that free software offers! User must be FORCED to use application X for EVERYTHING.
Way to go buddy!
Oh, don't be so ridiculous!
How is MS 'kissing them off' ?
How does it show MS is a monopoly (which it is, but your reasoning doesn't prove it) ?
Win 98 and ME will keep on chugging along until the hardware dies and then the user will buy a Dell or somesuch with XP (or maybe Vista!). It won't suddenly stop working because it's EOL'd.
What would you have MS do - support obsolete products for ever? Yeah - like all OS vendors do (not).
Or get Bootcamp for nothing.
I have a Duo Core Mac Mini running XP just fine. Best Windows box I've ever had. No issues whatsoever.
Nobody actually 'needs' or 'wants' Lotus Notes - it's an abortion!
Windows user might need or want Exchange, but Notes - never!
Oh boy! Sure!
Do you really think there is a little department at Redmond that is in charge of 'exploits running free'?
Honestly. Sometimes I think slashdotters should get their fucking heads out of their assholes and smell the fresh air!
Kinda squishy and squelchy - ugh!!!
What the hell is your problem?
Do you just get off on making stupid and inane statements like that?
Whoo hoo - look at me everybody! I'm Alien54 and I can make stupid and crass comments about rich and powerful people on the Interweb and nobody will ever know it's me!!!
Way to go sonny!
Past your bedtime I think.
I agree that crappy install (and uninstall) software can leave a few files and registry entries lying around, but I fail to see how this will make a system significantly slower and slower over time.
I have about 20 W2K SP2 boxes that run 24x7 under heavy transaction loads (serving midlayer COM components to front-end DB2). None of these have had an unscheduled reboot in over 2 years. No resource creep. No performance degredation. In fact, no issues at all.
I think the old gripe of "windows won't stay up for more than a few days" is wearing very, very thin indeed.
How the hell was parent modded 'interesting' ?
It's not 'interesting', it is just pure BS and FUD in equal measure.
I run OSX, Win2K WinServer2003, and WinXP - I *never* have to reboot due to performance problems or stability issues.
I have used various Linux distros and OSS apps and the word 'predictability' doesn't exactly spring to mind!
I like Linux for non-interactive roles such as servers (web/mail) servers in particular, but no way is it hitting my desktop or my clients' desktops any time soon.
I think you and your boss both have tourettes syndrome. HTH
I sympathize.
;)
#1 Linux annoyance for me is other Linux users
Actually the new Intel Duo core Macs do a fine job of running XP under bootcamp. Solid as a rock, and fast too. I have a mini as a desktop (running XP about 75% of the time for dev work) and a MacbookPro on order. It's the best of both worlds!
I think Windows gets a bad rap for stability largely because people insist on running it on shitty hardware.
Typical Slashot arrogance.
They impose a new design with IMO rather poor usability. They don't provide an article where users can comment.
Comments in other threads are then deemed 'offtopic'.
Nice!
Well done to the people who designed this gadget. It's very neat, but more importantly, it points the way ahead for 'commodity' computing, I think.
I imagine soon, everyday computing for most people will revolve around one or more I/O devices they have access to (mobile phones, TV's, terms in public spaces and cafes etc.)
CPU power, memory, bandwidth, storage and usage of applications will be provided by large network suppliers.
Nobody's going to stop you running and maintaining your own box, but most people will just buy the I/O device (display, cam, audio, keyboard, mouse 'unit' etc.) packaged in whatever form they prefer - much as they buy cellphones now.