Most underground music is non-RIAA, particularly most punkrock, like Epitaph Records, Fat Records, and all the smaller and more obscure labels like Slap a Ham and Taang! -Ben
Its interpreted, so you get instant feedback. Its a higher-level language then alot others, and its alot nicer then VBscript. Plus, if someday your kids move into the *nix world, they can tote their old code along with them easily. -Ben
Geek chicks are so few, that in my school, the girls get their pick of the hoardes of geek guys. So, unfortunately, most of us geek guys have to get our lovin' elsewhere. I for one would encourage MANY more women, one's with nice cute butts, to get into computing. -Ben
True, the FSF doesn't have the resources to take every 'suspect' software product into court, especially large software corps., but your suspicions are all the more reason why you should donate to the fsf. Code can only free so much, you need hard cash to put the teeth behind the GPL. -Ben
RedHat is basically the commercial face of linux. right now in the suit world linux==RedHat.
Be has such a low share of the OS market, and not a whole lot of people are talking about it, you hear more about Amiga these days than you do Be. Linux on the other hand, is everywhere, and that's good for RedHat.
Of course, maybe I'm trying to convince myself I'm right, I got alot of money riding on this thing. -Ben
I was gettin pretty excited when I read the headline. I thought "Alias|Wavefront moving to linux? I may not be able to afford it, but this sounds great!" Then I checked out the web site, and, alas, it's only the network render client.
Maybe I shouldent be griping, if my favorite modeler/renderer/animation package, Hash's Animation:Master released a render client/server for linux, I'd be one happy puppy, cause the less time I spend in MacOS and the more I spend in linux, the better. -Ben
Methinks you've got some issues here that have little, if anything, to do with Linux, and more to do with your politics and/or ideology. Code is a tool, which is by itself, neutral. Only people can put a tool to good use or to evil use. ..
Agreed, thank you for a well thought out response.
Agreed, you make a very good point. But free speech and killing are 2 different issues. If the klan uses a linux server to spread their ideology, that's one thing. If the DoD uses a linux computer to ensure that a missile destroys a truck convoy (or an embassy) that's quite another.
They should be allowed to use them, I'm not saying they don't have the right, I just feel queesy at the idea of a tool built around the premises of freedom is used to take it away.
Ethics and Technology are intertwined issues. Think of encryption and privacy, think of nuclear weapons, think of biological weapons.
If you think that ethics and technology shoulden't be discussed, you're wrong. If we ignore ethical and moral issues in our pursuit of the betterment of technology, we will destroy ourselves.
Does anyone else get the sense of conflicting ideologies between the open-source/free software community and what the military is here for?
Militaries protect national interests. Free software has no concern for national interests, it's international, it's about the freedom of mankind, not the slaughter of innocents.
I may be sounding like a pinko here, and yes, more linux boxes out there == good thing, but, something doesn't feel right about the technology we've created to help further the rights of men might be used to take those rights away.
The FSF is the soul of the Linux/Hacker community. Whether you want to admit it or not, Stallman's spirit and ideology is what fuels the engine of the free/open-source community.
And one of these days (hopefully later than sooner) when the GPL is tested in court, we're going to have to through alot of support behind these guys in order to ensure that our code is kep t free.
The GPL covers "any program or other work which contains a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distributed under the terms of this General Public License. The 'Program', below, refers to any such program or work, and a "work based on the Program" means either the Program or any derivative work under copyright law: that is to say, a work containing the Program or a portion of it, either verbatim or with modifications and/or translated into another language." So yes, you can GPL your art.
I would proudly go to jail in order to openly defy people who want to perverse the idea of 'morallity' as keeping kids from hearing naughty words. I think what these businesses are doing is much more immorral than anything they play in their theatres.
The idea that they can tell me what MY CHILD should or should not see is infuriating. It is my job to be parent. Not theirs.
There's a company called Westlake Interactive (sorry dunno the URL) that ported Unreal to the Macintosh, and I believe they were involved in the Duke Nukem ports and a bunch of other games.
This is just my little blab on government linguistics, but this just another example of how what a government service is called one thing, it usually means another, like the "Defense Department" or Nixon's "cointelpro". This "SAFE (the Security and Freedom through Encryption act" is just another example of how the title of one bill does the exact opposite of what it proposes to do, in order to decieve the public into believing that maybe progressive change is occuring.
This is absolutely true, 3 years ago I was a cashier at a walmart, I dunno if the cameras were fake, but I never found the security room in the building, and coulden't think of a place they could stick one. I was told by my superviser that if we see someone we think is shoplifting, we should get on the PA and say some crap like "Security, camera scan cosmetics" or some BS like that. Pretty funny stuff.
So yeah, i guess if yer gunna shoplift, do it at a walmart, just obey the eternal law of capitalistic justice, "Don't get caught!".
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Most underground music is non-RIAA, particularly most punkrock, like Epitaph Records, Fat Records, and all the smaller and more obscure labels like Slap a Ham and Taang!
-Ben
Its interpreted, so you get instant feedback. Its a higher-level language then alot others, and its alot nicer then VBscript. Plus, if someday your kids move into the *nix world, they can tote their old code along with them easily.
-Ben
Geek chicks are so few, that in my school, the girls get their pick of the hoardes of geek guys. So, unfortunately, most of us geek guys have to get our lovin' elsewhere. I for one would encourage MANY more women, one's with nice cute butts, to get into computing.
-Ben
I love my linuxppc box, fast little bugger, they need to fold the PPC code into the 'official' kernel.
-Ben
True, the FSF doesn't have the resources to take every 'suspect' software product into court, especially large software corps., but your suspicions are all the more reason why you should donate to the fsf. Code can only free so much, you need hard cash to put the teeth behind the GPL.
-Ben
18 to 20 bucks I'd say, if it goes above that, wait to buy it in 2 weeks.
I'm just a geek, not the Amazing Creskin.
-Ben
RedHat is basically the commercial face of linux. right now in the suit world linux==RedHat.
Be has such a low share of the OS market, and not a whole lot of people are talking about it, you hear more about Amiga these days than you do Be. Linux on the other hand, is everywhere, and that's good for RedHat.
Of course, maybe I'm trying to convince myself I'm right, I got alot of money riding on this thing.
-Ben
It's a craps shoot, I signed up for about 2000, I could get em all, I could get 2, depends on how much etrade can fill my order.
-Ben
I was gettin pretty excited when I read the headline. I thought "Alias|Wavefront moving to linux? I may not be able to afford it, but this sounds great!" Then I checked out the web site, and, alas, it's only the network render client.
Maybe I shouldent be griping, if my favorite modeler/renderer/animation package, Hash's Animation:Master released a render client/server for linux, I'd be one happy puppy, cause the less time I spend in MacOS and the more I spend in linux, the better.
-Ben
Sounds like alot of good linuxppc publicity, though I kinda feel that the distro is 'dumbed down' a bit for old mac users new to linux.
I'm gunna get my hands on TurboLinux for PowerPC, it seems like it would be more in my arena. Or possibly Debian. I really wanna try out Yellow Dog.
Anyone know of any other Distros for PowerPC?
And I didn't get the letter, but because I got an account on etrade a few months back, I apparently have my foot in the door for some share.
We shall see though.
Methinks you've got some issues here that have little, if anything, to do with Linux, and more to do with your .
politics and/or ideology. Code is a tool, which is by itself, neutral. Only people can put a tool to good use or to
evil use. .
Agreed, thank you for a well thought out response.
Agreed, you make a very good point. But free speech and killing are 2 different issues. If the klan uses a linux server to spread their ideology, that's one thing. If the DoD uses a linux computer to ensure that a missile destroys a truck convoy (or an embassy) that's quite another.
They should be allowed to use them, I'm not saying they don't have the right, I just feel queesy at the idea of a tool built around the premises of freedom is used to take it away.
Ethics and Technology are intertwined issues. Think of encryption and privacy, think of nuclear weapons, think of biological weapons.
If you think that ethics and technology shoulden't be discussed, you're wrong. If we ignore ethical and moral issues in our pursuit of the betterment of technology, we will destroy ourselves.
Oppenheimer knew this...
Does anyone else get the sense of conflicting ideologies between the open-source/free software community and what the military is here for?
Militaries protect national interests. Free software has no concern for national interests, it's international, it's about the freedom of mankind, not the slaughter of innocents.
I may be sounding like a pinko here, and yes, more linux boxes out there == good thing, but, something doesn't feel right about the technology we've created to help further the rights of men might be used to take those rights away.
The FSF is the soul of the Linux/Hacker community. Whether you want to admit it or not, Stallman's spirit and ideology is what fuels the engine of the free/open-source community.
And one of these days (hopefully later than sooner) when the GPL is tested in court, we're going to have to through alot of support behind these guys in order to ensure that our code is kep t free.
based on the Program" means either the Program or any derivative work under copyright law: that is to say, a work containing the Program or a portion of it, either verbatim or with modifications and/or translated into another language." So yes, you can GPL your art.
One interesting project underway involving GPL'd art is the Free Music Philosophy.
hmmm, I'm in an oi band, I'm almost considering writing some hooligan songs and releasing them as mp3's.
hmmm.
Russia?
Welcome to the 90's President Reagan.
I would proudly go to jail in order to openly defy people who want to perverse the idea of 'morallity' as keeping kids from hearing naughty words. I think what these businesses are doing is much more immorral than anything they play in their theatres.
The idea that they can tell me what MY CHILD should or should not see is infuriating. It is my job to be parent. Not theirs.
Why if kids see movies that have pictures of people's naughty bits in them, what next!
They may end up going to museums and seeing painitngs of nude women or people copulating!
Oh the horrors!
I believe it was Thoreau who said "if a law or practise is unjust, you are morally obligated to defy it."
I think we would live in a much better world if all lived by that creed.
There's a company called Westlake Interactive (sorry dunno the URL) that ported Unreal to the Macintosh, and I believe they were involved in the Duke Nukem ports and a bunch of other games.
This is just my little blab on government linguistics, but this just another example of how what a government service is called one thing, it usually means another, like the "Defense Department" or Nixon's "cointelpro". This "SAFE (the Security and Freedom through Encryption act" is just another example of how the title of one bill does the exact opposite of what it proposes to do, in order to decieve the public into believing that maybe progressive change is occuring.
This is absolutely true, 3 years ago I was a cashier at a walmart, I dunno if the cameras were fake, but I never found the security room in the building, and coulden't think of a place they could stick one. I was told by my superviser that if we see someone we think is shoplifting, we should get on the PA and say some crap like "Security, camera scan cosmetics" or some BS like that. Pretty funny stuff.
So yeah, i guess if yer gunna shoplift, do it at a walmart, just obey the eternal law of capitalistic justice, "Don't get caught!".