People know they voted for Paul, result says zero.
I don't know that. Given the fact that RP-supporters can't seem to hold back from organized manipulation on-line polls, I don't see why I should give them the benefit of the doubt with regards to real-world polls.
I say go ahead, pull out the paper ballots (yes, everyone had a paper ballot in NH; no touch-screen votes), and count them all up. I'll betcha' Ron Paul still loses.
The problem comes when the old code doesn't "just work," and you have to fix it. It's one thing to deal with code that has multiple paths for special cases; I'm talking about poorly designed, poorly documented, and poorly written code, with 8 years of patch-work for all the bugs in it. If the code is bad enough, if really is simpler to rewrite it than to figure out what is wrong with the spaghetti. I don't have time to waste on crap that, at some point in the future, is going to make me waste even more time.
I do a lot of maintenance work, and I've got a 5-strikes rule: if I have to revisit the same spaghetti 5 times to patch critical design flaws, I chuck it and rewrite it. So far, I have yet to regret this policy.
Or, more likely, they're waiting until they can get their hands on the 4th Ed SRD (as other publishers are doing). There's no sense putting out material now when in 6 months they may have to rewrite it. The current IK Player's Guide is completely incompatible with 4th Ed. Luckily, the IK World Guide is nothing but fluff; a very wise move, IMHO. Also consider that PP isn't quite as prolific at flooding the market with books as most 3rd party publishers.
I'm hoping for a new, updated IK Player's Handbook for 4th Ed that also incorporates material from the Liber Mechanika.
Scott Rouse has said, "There will be the OGL and Wizards D&D products period. No d20 STL (tiered or otherwise) to be even more clear." Indicating there will be the OGL.
Also, "We are looking to incorporate some sort of compatibility language within the new version of the OGL. Something like 'Compatible with the 4th Edition of the Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying game...'"
Further, on the release of the SRD, "July 2008 at the latest but some publishers will get it early so they can develop products in advance."
There will be both and OGL and an SRD. 3rd party publishers can continue writing new content for 4th Ed.
There will be both a new OGL license and and SRD (system reference document [aka "D&D For Free"]). The new OGL may incorporate language to allow you to advertise 4th Edition compatibility, something that was previously only obtainable as part of the onerous d20 STL (which may be going away according to Scott Rouse).
Also, their magic system seems a lot more reasonable than memorizing spells. I always thought of spells more like skills than chunks of memory.
I believe 4th Ed addresses this. The quote I heard went something like this: "After a wizard uses all his spells for the day, he is still at 80% combat effectiveness." I think this means you can designate certain spells as "per round" usage using the new "magical implements" rules.
I wouldn't call it a "debacle," given that there was no economic backlash for WotC whatsoever. People grumbled, but they bought the books. The game still flourished. Everyone who swore they wouldn't buy 3.5E (people like me) ended up getting it eventually, anyway.
The only "lesson" to be learned is that, when given the chance to vote with their wallets, gamers will vote for WotC.
After 8 years in the wild, I think WotC has a good idea of what in 3rd Ed simply isn't fun. Save or die is not fun. Critical confirmations are not fun. Gnomes and half-orcs are not fun. OTOH, there are tons of requests for things that are fun that aren't in the rules. I think WotC is chucking things nobody ever liked, anyway.
I, for one, welcome the change. I think the new rules are a vast improvement. Note that I say this as a convert; last year I swore I would not purchase 4th because I thought it was a crass, cynical cash-in. I changed my mind when I saw what they wanted to do.
It appears (to me, at least), that many of the new rules-changes mirror popular MMO's like WOW. How much influence do the designers derive from video games; and, to the extent that D&D 4th resembles WOW, is this a conscious effort to reach the MMO-generation of gamers with table-top role-play?
I think argoff (in the comment above) did a better job contriving contextual relevance for his Ron Paul (!!!!11!1!!one!!) advertisement. Your approach was a little more ham-fisted.
I'll make you a deal: I'll give you the right to grow, smoke, and sell marijuana, free and clear, in exchange for you giving me the right to shoot your ass if you try to give any to my kids.
Heck, I think it's high time we gave the tobacco companies the same deal.
What I find ironic is that Slashdot will now adopt Jack Thompson's line of reasoning simply because it's the military making it instead of Rockstar games.
Don't protest America's Army if you don't give a crap about Grand Theft Auto.
and are free to keep the purity of their beliefs away from all that nasty lobbyist money.
Except he doesn't (I say "he" because there's only one); he loves attaching pork-barrel spending to bills he votes against knowing, cynically, they will pass anyway. Either way, he wins.
If NASA was based in Ron Paul's home district, I'd bet my dollar to your donut he'd be extolling the virtues of pork--errr... I mean--Martian exploration.
You need to dial your Cynacism-O-Meter up a notch and realize Libertarians are not so far from Democrats/Republicans as you may think.
Granted. Nevertheless, I think both parties failed miserably at protecting us from WIPO. Worse, we continue to force this corporate thuggery on other nations.
The DMCA was written by (predominately) Democratic lobbyists, advanced by Fritz "Disney" Hollings (D), and signed into law by President Clinton.
The Republicans may have been the majority party at the time, but at least own up and take some of the responsibility. This is bipartisan hatred-of-consumers.
I say go ahead, pull out the paper ballots (yes, everyone had a paper ballot in NH; no touch-screen votes), and count them all up. I'll betcha' Ron Paul still loses.
The problem comes when the old code doesn't "just work," and you have to fix it. It's one thing to deal with code that has multiple paths for special cases; I'm talking about poorly designed, poorly documented, and poorly written code, with 8 years of patch-work for all the bugs in it. If the code is bad enough, if really is simpler to rewrite it than to figure out what is wrong with the spaghetti. I don't have time to waste on crap that, at some point in the future, is going to make me waste even more time.
I do a lot of maintenance work, and I've got a 5-strikes rule: if I have to revisit the same spaghetti 5 times to patch critical design flaws, I chuck it and rewrite it. So far, I have yet to regret this policy.
Or, more likely, they're waiting until they can get their hands on the 4th Ed SRD (as other publishers are doing). There's no sense putting out material now when in 6 months they may have to rewrite it. The current IK Player's Guide is completely incompatible with 4th Ed. Luckily, the IK World Guide is nothing but fluff; a very wise move, IMHO. Also consider that PP isn't quite as prolific at flooding the market with books as most 3rd party publishers.
I'm hoping for a new, updated IK Player's Handbook for 4th Ed that also incorporates material from the Liber Mechanika.
Where did you hear this?
Scott Rouse has said, "There will be the OGL and Wizards D&D products period. No d20 STL (tiered or otherwise) to be even more clear." Indicating there will be the OGL.
Also, "We are looking to incorporate some sort of compatibility language within the new version of the OGL. Something like 'Compatible with the 4th Edition of the Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying game...'"
Further, on the release of the SRD, "July 2008 at the latest but some publishers will get it early so they can develop products in advance."
There will be both and OGL and an SRD. 3rd party publishers can continue writing new content for 4th Ed.
There will be both a new OGL license and and SRD (system reference document [aka "D&D For Free"]). The new OGL may incorporate language to allow you to advertise 4th Edition compatibility, something that was previously only obtainable as part of the onerous d20 STL (which may be going away according to Scott Rouse).
The game is only as fun as the people you play with.
I believe 4th Ed addresses this. The quote I heard went something like this: "After a wizard uses all his spells for the day, he is still at 80% combat effectiveness." I think this means you can designate certain spells as "per round" usage using the new "magical implements" rules.
I wouldn't call it a "debacle," given that there was no economic backlash for WotC whatsoever. People grumbled, but they bought the books. The game still flourished. Everyone who swore they wouldn't buy 3.5E (people like me) ended up getting it eventually, anyway.
The only "lesson" to be learned is that, when given the chance to vote with their wallets, gamers will vote for WotC.
After 8 years in the wild, I think WotC has a good idea of what in 3rd Ed simply isn't fun. Save or die is not fun. Critical confirmations are not fun. Gnomes and half-orcs are not fun. OTOH, there are tons of requests for things that are fun that aren't in the rules. I think WotC is chucking things nobody ever liked, anyway.
I, for one, welcome the change. I think the new rules are a vast improvement. Note that I say this as a convert; last year I swore I would not purchase 4th because I thought it was a crass, cynical cash-in. I changed my mind when I saw what they wanted to do.
It appears (to me, at least), that many of the new rules-changes mirror popular MMO's like WOW. How much influence do the designers derive from video games; and, to the extent that D&D 4th resembles WOW, is this a conscious effort to reach the MMO-generation of gamers with table-top role-play?
I think argoff (in the comment above) did a better job contriving contextual relevance for his Ron Paul (!!!!11!1!!one!!) advertisement. Your approach was a little more ham-fisted.
Is this the same phenomenon that occurs when a twin absorbs its uteral room-mate, or is that different?
Augh! I wasn't going to do it until you warned me not to! You should have warned me away from your warning!
I'll make you a deal: I'll give you the right to grow, smoke, and sell marijuana, free and clear, in exchange for you giving me the right to shoot your ass if you try to give any to my kids.
Heck, I think it's high time we gave the tobacco companies the same deal.
News for nerds. In this audience, it has great import.
What I find ironic is that Slashdot will now adopt Jack Thompson's line of reasoning simply because it's the military making it instead of Rockstar games.
Don't protest America's Army if you don't give a crap about Grand Theft Auto.
I spent about two minutes reading this comment, trying to figure out the double entendre before realizing there wasn't one.
I've been reading Slashdot too much.
You expect us to read the FAQ's? You must be new he--oh, wait... nevermind.
Except he doesn't (I say "he" because there's only one); he loves attaching pork-barrel spending to bills he votes against knowing, cynically, they will pass anyway. Either way, he wins.
And all Ron's people said, "Paul-men."
If NASA was based in Ron Paul's home district, I'd bet my dollar to your donut he'd be extolling the virtues of pork--errr... I mean--Martian exploration.
You need to dial your Cynacism-O-Meter up a notch and realize Libertarians are not so far from Democrats/Republicans as you may think.
Granted. Nevertheless, I think both parties failed miserably at protecting us from WIPO. Worse, we continue to force this corporate thuggery on other nations.
The DMCA was written by (predominately) Democratic lobbyists, advanced by Fritz "Disney" Hollings (D), and signed into law by President Clinton.
The Republicans may have been the majority party at the time, but at least own up and take some of the responsibility. This is bipartisan hatred-of-consumers.
Girly push-ups don't count. Knees off the floor!
Ooh, and he's got evasion. No damage.
Truly, it was ahead of its time, then.