Talk about hypocrisy. Slashdot wants you to think it loves the artist because it is trying to fight on behalf of the artist against this evil mega-alliance called the RIAA. This is a disingenuous load of crap at best. (Obviously by "Slashdotter" I'm speaking of the stereotypical anti-copyright, anti-RIAA type who is so popular here.)
Slashdot hates - HATES - the artists. More than anyone even, including the RIAA - and that's saying something. Ultimately, Slashdot wants to control the artist, to shape him into a being that exists solely for the pleasure of the Slashdotter - an entertainment slave. To this end, because offering CDs for reasonable amounts of money and expecting the Slashdotter to pay for them would be out of the question, Slashdotters want to see artists forced into a nomadic life of perpetual touring, surviving in a state of poverty on the meager funds brought in by low ticket prices and merchandise sales. Slashdotters hate for bands to be successful. Any band playing amphitheaters or arenas has "sold out" to the "mainstream" and does not deserve to be patronised. This is because the "mainstream" is beyond the control of slashdot, and any artist entering it is, in turn, freeing himself from the shackles of Slashdotters' self-centered desires. Slashdotters want to choose how much - and WHETHER! - to pay for the music they download. Most importantly, that music MUST be encoded in ______ [obscure format] at ____ [bitrate] with ____ [special encoder switches] or they will REFUSE to pay - but will STILL demand to be able to download this music anyway. (It is curiously both free and sub-optimal at the same time.)
"But whenever I use P2p, I send the artist a buck!" Sure you do, and that disheveled homeless drunkard who just asked me for a quarter really only wants it because he's trying to catch a bus ride to see his mom in the hospital. "Micropayments" seem like a great idea around here because they are just what they sound like - small payments, which are better than big payments, right???
Slashdot is full of grand ideas about how the copyright system is totally and completely fucked. I don't know - maybe it is. But when you consider that the underlying motivation for the perpetuation of this viewpoint in discussions here is the deep-seated desire to get cool stuff, like big-name music and movies, for free, maybe it's not the copyright system that's so fucked... maybe it's Slashdot and its head-up-the-arse notions of morality and fairness.
they must have met some pretty stupid and/or conservative ladies because most of the research into circumcision has shown that circumcized men both get and give less pleasure. Friction (less pleasurable) vs. gliding (more pleasurable).
I'm so sick and tired of seeing (certain) {geek(s),nerd(s)} speak in (a) way(s) that makes their language look like programming code and makes them look like (a) total neurotic (horse's) {ass(es),cock(s)}.
there really isn't any other explanation, is there? I mean come on... open-source coders release code and don't make a dime off it... Company comes along and profits off it... $$$ ---> company, ___ ----> OSS coders. Jealousy.
where what's more important than the fact that a hurricane devastated a country is the issue of what specifically the hurricane did to the country's wifi network and TLD.
easy, just download x source code, adjust makefiles, compile it, edit your config files, start x with the proper command, wait for it to crash, check your logfiles, diagnose the error, and fix it.
OF COURSE it's not a direct analogy Captain Literal. The point is that the demand for something (high-level tech jobs, watch repairers) that used to necessarily be high-skill and technical is decreasing due to increasing technological commodification.
Why did you not check your AC box? Now it's down on your permanent record that you've been conversing with the proletarians. PLUS now you've lost karma which has pulled you down a little closer to our level of dirtiness and away from the refined, civilized intelligentsia. Why is your threshold not set to +4? Browsing at 0 only dilutes the concentrated yay-for-Leenix circle-jerking experience.
Just to point out, not saying that I agree with you or disagree, your reasoning is not very strong. Is it morally relevant whether space science is directly or indirectly responsible for X? If not, hasn't space science contributed immeasurably to the development of e.g. rocket technology enabling pinpoint long-range destruction? If you propose that space funding should be diverted from military funding, isn't it true that although war causes short-term strife, it can bring about long-term stability and peace? I'm not trying to criticize or anything, it's just that, we need to look at the big picture.
It was an honest question, don't put words in my mouth like ire, consternation, disapproval... I don't approve or disapprove of the space program or any Mars missions. I just think it's important that given our finite resources, it's important to contemplate our priorities and not to go around with big heads trying to tell everybody else why we're right and everybody else is stupid and wrong. (That includes both sides of course)
Exactly, crappy technologies like Unix and Windows and C have stunted innovation in the tech industry for so long that we've just become accustomed to them and grown to expect them. So much so that even though we have a lot of clues about how things could be done better, we're resistant to implementing them (even though they've been implemented before in systems which have failed) because... I don't know. Unix is too eleet to change or something. Unix's EXTREME cultural entrenchedness is one of the reasons the dozens of superior competitors that have emerged out of companies and research labs over the years have failed.
An expensive watch is indeed a pretty damn difficult system to work on - it's not the most complex thing in the world but its very nature is enough of a deterrent. Especially when you don't have the tools to fix it. All those gears, and springs, and sand-grain-sized screws... good luck fixing that thing yourself when you don't even know what's wrong with it or how watches work.
You do get what you pay for when it comes to people. 2 or 3 highly experienced, insightful, and well rounded IT people can completely remove the need for 25 cheap bodies, bloated vendorware, expensive downtime, frequent upgrade costs, lost data, etc, etc, etc, That's the problem. Penny wise and pound foolish.
In some situations. But you don't need an MS in CS or EE to swap a network card or install server appliances. Companies are realizing that quite often, it's cheaper to hire someone with an associate's degree to do the menial things - which are becoming more menial every day due to improvements in technology and usability, and centralize the decision-making. The market is asking for a lower-level tech certification and higher education is responding.
Why do you even bother with/.
Maybe the opinions of the fascist geek majority are not always the "right" ones. Bitter about losing your job to a visual basic programmer, fucking holier-than-thou cocksucker?
Of course it's brain-damaged, it's unintuitive and even misleading to novices which is the last thing you want a delete command to be. Like the guy who talked about trying to delete all the.* files in a folder by typing "rm.*"... It's not his fault he just erased his whole fs - that's just absurdly stupid functionality. "But, but, it's better that way, it makes perfect sense, because....." No. It makes perfect sense only to those who have already been indoctrinated into believing that this kind of nonsense is the "sophisticated" and "correct" behavior.
Unix has design problems that go way beyond rm and that have been addressed by a multitude of other OSes before CS researchers themselves stopped caring and became used to things being the way they are. Read "The Unix Hater's Handbook" for an endless supply of '80s-era complaints that are still around. Don't be scared by the ms.com address, I am not a Windows lover either.
Notice how many of the tech mistakes posted so far involve problems with 'rm.' Unix vendors listened to these complaints for decades and ignored them, and look where they are now. Maybe just because rm (and a lot of other command-line stuff) has been brain-damaged for such a long time doesn't mean it's without fixable faults.
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All those used CDs had to come from somewhere, and when people buy them, more have to come from somewhere...
Talk about hypocrisy. Slashdot wants you to think it loves the artist because it is trying to fight on behalf of the artist against this evil mega-alliance called the RIAA. This is a disingenuous load of crap at best. (Obviously by "Slashdotter" I'm speaking of the stereotypical anti-copyright, anti-RIAA type who is so popular here.)
Slashdot hates - HATES - the artists. More than anyone even, including the RIAA - and that's saying something. Ultimately, Slashdot wants to control the artist, to shape him into a being that exists solely for the pleasure of the Slashdotter - an entertainment slave. To this end, because offering CDs for reasonable amounts of money and expecting the Slashdotter to pay for them would be out of the question, Slashdotters want to see artists forced into a nomadic life of perpetual touring, surviving in a state of poverty on the meager funds brought in by low ticket prices and merchandise sales. Slashdotters hate for bands to be successful. Any band playing amphitheaters or arenas has "sold out" to the "mainstream" and does not deserve to be patronised. This is because the "mainstream" is beyond the control of slashdot, and any artist entering it is, in turn, freeing himself from the shackles of Slashdotters' self-centered desires. Slashdotters want to choose how much - and WHETHER! - to pay for the music they download. Most importantly, that music MUST be encoded in ______ [obscure format] at ____ [bitrate] with ____ [special encoder switches] or they will REFUSE to pay - but will STILL demand to be able to download this music anyway. (It is curiously both free and sub-optimal at the same time.)
"But whenever I use P2p, I send the artist a buck!" Sure you do, and that disheveled homeless drunkard who just asked me for a quarter really only wants it because he's trying to catch a bus ride to see his mom in the hospital. "Micropayments" seem like a great idea around here because they are just what they sound like - small payments, which are better than big payments, right???
Slashdot is full of grand ideas about how the copyright system is totally and completely fucked. I don't know - maybe it is. But when you consider that the underlying motivation for the perpetuation of this viewpoint in discussions here is the deep-seated desire to get cool stuff, like big-name music and movies, for free, maybe it's not the copyright system that's so fucked... maybe it's Slashdot and its head-up-the-arse notions of morality and fairness.
We were talking about dicks. This fits right in with a thread about Saudi Arabian geeks.
the money saved from a cut in the space program could reduce it even more.
save decaying rockets!!
they must have met some pretty stupid and/or conservative ladies because most of the research into circumcision has shown that circumcized men both get and give less pleasure. Friction (less pleasurable) vs. gliding (more pleasurable).
save decaying rockets.
I'm so sick and tired of seeing (certain) {geek(s),nerd(s)} speak in (a) way(s) that makes their language look like programming code and makes them look like (a) total neurotic (horse's) {ass(es),cock(s)}.
there really isn't any other explanation, is there? I mean come on... open-source coders release code and don't make a dime off it... Company comes along and profits off it... $$$ ---> company, ___ ----> OSS coders. Jealousy.
You are not locked into the iPod with AAC dipshit.
where what's more important than the fact that a hurricane devastated a country is the issue of what specifically the hurricane did to the country's wifi network and TLD.
you and six other people...
easy, just download x source code, adjust makefiles, compile it, edit your config files, start x with the proper command, wait for it to crash, check your logfiles, diagnose the error, and fix it.
the allies figured this out in ww2. Nazi dam bombing
OF COURSE it's not a direct analogy Captain Literal. The point is that the demand for something (high-level tech jobs, watch repairers) that used to necessarily be high-skill and technical is decreasing due to increasing technological commodification.
Why did you not check your AC box? Now it's down on your permanent record that you've been conversing with the proletarians. PLUS now you've lost karma which has pulled you down a little closer to our level of dirtiness and away from the refined, civilized intelligentsia. Why is your threshold not set to +4? Browsing at 0 only dilutes the concentrated yay-for-Leenix circle-jerking experience.
Just to point out, not saying that I agree with you or disagree, your reasoning is not very strong. Is it morally relevant whether space science is directly or indirectly responsible for X? If not, hasn't space science contributed immeasurably to the development of e.g. rocket technology enabling pinpoint long-range destruction? If you propose that space funding should be diverted from military funding, isn't it true that although war causes short-term strife, it can bring about long-term stability and peace? I'm not trying to criticize or anything, it's just that, we need to look at the big picture.
It was an honest question, don't put words in my mouth like ire, consternation, disapproval... I don't approve or disapprove of the space program or any Mars missions. I just think it's important that given our finite resources, it's important to contemplate our priorities and not to go around with big heads trying to tell everybody else why we're right and everybody else is stupid and wrong. (That includes both sides of course)
What do Mars mission supporters think about dying children on earth, specifically deaths due to massive poverty and lack of resources?
Sorry, I was being sarcastic, the rm command really does need a basic sanity check as does the whole rest of the system if you ask me.
Exactly, crappy technologies like Unix and Windows and C have stunted innovation in the tech industry for so long that we've just become accustomed to them and grown to expect them. So much so that even though we have a lot of clues about how things could be done better, we're resistant to implementing them (even though they've been implemented before in systems which have failed) because... I don't know. Unix is too eleet to change or something. Unix's EXTREME cultural entrenchedness is one of the reasons the dozens of superior competitors that have emerged out of companies and research labs over the years have failed.
An expensive watch is indeed a pretty damn difficult system to work on - it's not the most complex thing in the world but its very nature is enough of a deterrent. Especially when you don't have the tools to fix it. All those gears, and springs, and sand-grain-sized screws... good luck fixing that thing yourself when you don't even know what's wrong with it or how watches work.
You do get what you pay for when it comes to people. 2 or 3 highly experienced, insightful, and well rounded IT people can completely remove the need for 25 cheap bodies, bloated vendorware, expensive downtime, frequent upgrade costs, lost data, etc, etc, etc, That's the problem. Penny wise and pound foolish.
In some situations. But you don't need an MS in CS or EE to swap a network card or install server appliances. Companies are realizing that quite often, it's cheaper to hire someone with an associate's degree to do the menial things - which are becoming more menial every day due to improvements in technology and usability, and centralize the decision-making. The market is asking for a lower-level tech certification and higher education is responding.
Why do you even bother with /.
Maybe the opinions of the fascist geek majority are not always the "right" ones. Bitter about losing your job to a visual basic programmer, fucking holier-than-thou cocksucker?
Of course it's brain-damaged, it's unintuitive and even misleading to novices which is the last thing you want a delete command to be. Like the guy who talked about trying to delete all the .* files in a folder by typing "rm .*" ... It's not his fault he just erased his whole fs - that's just absurdly stupid functionality. "But, but, it's better that way, it makes perfect sense, because....." No. It makes perfect sense only to those who have already been indoctrinated into believing that this kind of nonsense is the "sophisticated" and "correct" behavior.
Unix has design problems that go way beyond rm and that have been addressed by a multitude of other OSes before CS researchers themselves stopped caring and became used to things being the way they are. Read "The Unix Hater's Handbook" for an endless supply of '80s-era complaints that are still around. Don't be scared by the ms.com address, I am not a Windows lover either.
It's not him that's dumb, it's Unix that's dumb.
(all 3 of you)
Notice how many of the tech mistakes posted so far involve problems with 'rm.' Unix vendors listened to these complaints for decades and ignored them, and look where they are now. Maybe just because rm (and a lot of other command-line stuff) has been brain-damaged for such a long time doesn't mean it's without fixable faults.
What are you talking about? It's supposed to be that way. It's been that way for decades. It's The Unix Way - The Right Way. Shut up.