But don't try to use them to hide behind, or twist your statements into something that they weren't.
You started off saying lumps of cells and animals are ok but not humans, trying to draw a line somewhere to differentiate. And then towards the end admitted you would kill humans if the ends justified the means.
You originally tried to draw the line at 'being able to communicate', when I showed you that it was not a very good place for the line. You didn't indicate what sort of communication, or how you would even tell if something was capable of communicating but you were listening wrong, or artificially stopping it from communicating.
In the end it was irrelevant, you decided it's ok to kill anything you want, up to and possibly including humans, as long as you 'feel it's a good idea'.
No idea why you are so fixated on the 'grown in the lab' part. Do lab grown things differ to their wild counterparts in some meaningful way?
Nope, you need to go down to the southern hemisphere where hurricanes go backwards and the volcanoes suck molten lava back into the Earth. That's where you send all the trash.
Or there is this really deep trench I've been hearing about...
It was lucky you came along to explain their 'real objection' to the military. You really showed that strawman who's boss.
Another side of the argument, are the people than think that wars should be messy. It should be a difficult choice whether or not to start one. Save them for the big stuff. Once they become too clean they become too easy to justify they become too easy to start. Yea sure take out that horrible monster of a man. And once they are all gone, do you take out the bad monsters of a man, and then the monster of a man, and then the bad man, etc. Little Rocket Man causing trouble again, assassinate. Putin getting into your business, assassinate. Kim dotcom downloading all your movies, assassinate. People in other countries telling Americans how to vote, assassinate. People in other countries telling you things you'd rather not hear, assassinate.
But I totally kicked the shit out of my strawman.
The US is lowering its coal and China increased it's coal by 0.4%, congratulations. But then why does America still use more coal powered electricity per person then China?
This site tracks coal plants and if you look at you will see that
Chinese coal plants produced 3,573 MT of CO2 in 2017
American coal plants produced 1,056 MT of CO2 in 2017
Since China has 4.2 times as many people (over a billion extra people). America uses far more coal powered electricity per person,despite people like you claiming they are clean. (ie the only reason China's coal use is bigger is because China is a much bigger country than America.)
Could it be because American households use 8x as much power as Chinese households, 3x the world average?
No electricity consumption doesn't necessarily spell carbon emissions, but in the case of America is most certainly does. Don't feel too bad, the overlap of ignorance and self-righteousness entitlement is quite high. You are not alone.
I didn't even add in all the extra natural gas you use as well, it only gets worse for you.
How about you go fuck yourself instead. Pull your head out from your ass and try to understand actual reality.
Take a look in the mirror, because ignorant people like you are a much bigger problem than coal is.
I didn't claim it was the best strategy, or even a good one. But the Chinese definitely know he means business, and is't just carrying a big stick. He proved he can wield it effectively.
He could have just threatened them,and maybe they would ignore the threat and assume he was bluffing. Now they know he wasn't,and fully realise how much power he has over them.
Got any kids you would like to volunteer for further study? Or are you volunteering for yourself? They/you will be heavily sedated, and if any of you do manage to communicate we promise to let you go, it's only ethical after all.
Your understanding of just about any topic is worth about a pinch of salt. After it's already been thrown over your shoulder in a category 5 hurricane.
3rd world anything will have issues, that's why they are 3rd world.
What's with the knife nonsense? You are much higher than other countries so you clearly have the most to cut. You also have the most money, so it should be easiest for you to cut as well.
Why are you telling all the poor countries they can't be just like you? What makes you so special you get to use so much more of the CO2 quota?
If the whole world was like India, what would happen?
If the whole world was like China, what would happen?
If the whole world was like America, what would happen?
The world would be saved, but we would all be shitting in fields.
The world would struggle on as everyone tried to cut back.
The would would basically already be destroyed...
Clearly a word got dropped when I was moving it around / changing it. Are you smart enough to tell what it was?
The topic is greenhouse gasses, CO2 and coal consumption. Try to keep up.
Who cares what direction you are heading in if you are not moving fast enough to make a difference? 25 years you have been moving 'in the right direction' and what is the result? You are still twice as bad as China.
Per capita an America uses more coal powered electricity than a Chinese person does. Due to the fact Americans use so more electricity!
Despite China's coal use, they are still less than half your per capita emissions. Like you mentioned earlier, despite the US dropping for 25 years and China rising for 25 years. You still haven't cleaned up to their level and they haven't increased to yours. The real problem is you and people like you who are too afraid to look in the mirror and see who the real polluters are. You are twice China and way above the world average but pretend to be solving the problem.
Maybe you really don't understand and think it's not you? In that case you are a much bigger problem than coal.
Either somebody hacked (or is using) you account and are taking the piss, or you are the stupidest person ever to use a computer.
You link to a post that is supposedly a lie of mine where I say this.
No, he admitted he was incorrect and even thanked you.
The opposite of what you do Windy.
When someone points out your 'mistakes' you immediately jump up and down screaming liar liar..
But it's your pants that are on fire Windy.
And then 2 posts under it I completely proved it was true! With links and everything!
It could hardly be more perfect if I had scripted it myself.
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You sure do like words.
But don't try to use them to hide behind, or twist your statements into something that they weren't.
You started off saying lumps of cells and animals are ok but not humans, trying to draw a line somewhere to differentiate. And then towards the end admitted you would kill humans if the ends justified the means.
You originally tried to draw the line at 'being able to communicate', when I showed you that it was not a very good place for the line. You didn't indicate what sort of communication, or how you would even tell if something was capable of communicating but you were listening wrong, or artificially stopping it from communicating.
In the end it was irrelevant, you decided it's ok to kill anything you want, up to and possibly including humans, as long as you 'feel it's a good idea'.
No idea why you are so fixated on the 'grown in the lab' part. Do lab grown things differ to their wild counterparts in some meaningful way?
You are the one who added animals to your list of things.
Your answer is 'that it's bad' except sometimes 'trade-offs' and 'it's ok' if we can try to change its mind?
Lumps of cells can certainly grow into animals even humans. Happens hundreds of thousands of times every day.
Wanting wars to be messy and 'hating the very idea of the military as a whole' is in no way the same thing? Why would you think it was?
Yes, sit near a sunny window and feel all the warming. Even cat's know this...
Was clearly implying a question. I'm surprised you didn't notice it.
Since when are animals just lumps of cells. If they are, why aren't you too?
Nope, you need to go down to the southern hemisphere where hurricanes go backwards and the volcanoes suck molten lava back into the Earth. That's where you send all the trash.
Or there is this really deep trench I've been hearing about...
It was lucky you came along to explain their 'real objection' to the military. You really showed that strawman who's boss.
Another side of the argument, are the people than think that wars should be messy. It should be a difficult choice whether or not to start one. Save them for the big stuff. Once they become too clean they become too easy to justify they become too easy to start. Yea sure take out that horrible monster of a man. And once they are all gone, do you take out the bad monsters of a man, and then the monster of a man, and then the bad man, etc. Little Rocket Man causing trouble again, assassinate. Putin getting into your business, assassinate. Kim dotcom downloading all your movies, assassinate. People in other countries telling Americans how to vote, assassinate. People in other countries telling you things you'd rather not hear, assassinate.
But I totally kicked the shit out of my strawman.
And if you had no idea how to answer the question other than proving his point, I suppose you would give that kind of a non answer.
and it isn't just
The US is lowering its coal and China increased it's coal by 0.4%, congratulations. But then why does America still use more coal powered electricity per person then China? This site tracks coal plants and if you look at you will see that
Chinese coal plants produced 3,573 MT of CO2 in 2017
American coal plants produced 1,056 MT of CO2 in 2017
Since China has 4.2 times as many people (over a billion extra people). America uses far more coal powered electricity per person,despite people like you claiming they are clean. (ie the only reason China's coal use is bigger is because China is a much bigger country than America.)
Could it be because American households use 8x as much power as Chinese households, 3x the world average?
No electricity consumption doesn't necessarily spell carbon emissions, but in the case of America is most certainly does. Don't feel too bad, the overlap of ignorance and self-righteousness entitlement is quite high. You are not alone.
I didn't even add in all the extra natural gas you use as well, it only gets worse for you.
How about you go fuck yourself instead. Pull your head out from your ass and try to understand actual reality.
Take a look in the mirror, because ignorant people like you are a much bigger problem than coal is.
I didn't claim it was the best strategy, or even a good one. But the Chinese definitely know he means business, and is't just carrying a big stick. He proved he can wield it effectively.
He could have just threatened them,and maybe they would ignore the threat and assume he was bluffing. Now they know he wasn't,and fully realise how much power he has over them.
Everyone's merchandise is sourced from China, it's kind of their thing.
Since he was donating his blood, not selling it.He likely only got a biscuit and maybe a cup of tea.
Got any kids you would like to volunteer for further study? Or are you volunteering for yourself? They/you will be heavily sedated, and if any of you do manage to communicate we promise to let you go, it's only ethical after all.
The US is the greatest country in the world! Why would a US citizen want to go to any other country, which are all Hellholes?
They are not all hellholes, I think some of them are shitholes instead.
Your understanding of just about any topic is worth about a pinch of salt. After it's already been thrown over your shoulder in a category 5 hurricane.
3rd world anything will have issues, that's why they are 3rd world.
That must be why they are already using it, and someone wrote a slashdot article about it...
Did you ever figure out when?
Or was it simply too hard for you so you just gave up?
What's with the knife nonsense? You are much higher than other countries so you clearly have the most to cut. You also have the most money, so it should be easiest for you to cut as well.
Why are you telling all the poor countries they can't be just like you? What makes you so special you get to use so much more of the CO2 quota?
If the whole world was like India, what would happen?
If the whole world was like China, what would happen?
If the whole world was like America, what would happen?
The world would be saved, but we would all be shitting in fields.
The world would struggle on as everyone tried to cut back.
The would would basically already be destroyed...
Clearly a word got dropped when I was moving it around / changing it. Are you smart enough to tell what it was?
The topic is greenhouse gasses, CO2 and coal consumption. Try to keep up.
Who cares what direction you are heading in if you are not moving fast enough to make a difference? 25 years you have been moving 'in the right direction' and what is the result? You are still twice as bad as China.
Per capita an America uses more coal powered electricity than a Chinese person does. Due to the fact Americans use so more electricity!
Same old Windy, same tired old claims.
Despite China's coal use, they are still less than half your per capita emissions. Like you mentioned earlier, despite the US dropping for 25 years and China rising for 25 years. You still haven't cleaned up to their level and they haven't increased to yours. The real problem is you and people like you who are too afraid to look in the mirror and see who the real polluters are. You are twice China and way above the world average but pretend to be solving the problem.
Maybe you really don't understand and think it's not you? In that case you are a much bigger problem than coal.
Either somebody hacked (or is using) you account and are taking the piss, or you are the stupidest person ever to use a computer.
You link to a post that is supposedly a lie of mine where I say this.
No, he admitted he was incorrect and even thanked you. The opposite of what you do Windy. When someone points out your 'mistakes' you immediately jump up and down screaming liar liar.. But it's your pants that are on fire Windy.
And then 2 posts under it I completely proved it was true! With links and everything!
It could hardly be more perfect if I had scripted it myself.