Not really, if you have a factory and the workers strike, they block the entrance of the factory so that those willing to work can't enter. It's a bit the same: you make sure others can't work because the service you provide (because you get blamed if the shit hits the fan) is not working.
Unfortunately for those of us that keep our stuff together, they probably wouldn't notice because our services would keep working through the whole day.
Who says that you can't simply turn of the services with a cron-script at midnight and turn them back on with another cron script when the day of strike is done? At least, that's how I'd do it.
Okay, so your point is that, with the help of a very knowledgeable system administrator, anyone can use Linux comfortably?
While it's not his point (his point is: that using is possible for the non-technical, even though it needs a bit coaching from time to time) However, I'd like to add to that "With the help of a very knowledgeable system administrator, anyone can use WINDOWS comfortably.".
Why do I say this? Because I haven't met a single non-technical person that doesn't have big bad nasty problems with Windows. Most of those problems are caused by shoddy software, malware, and of course running Admin by default. When I take a computer and reinstall it and secure it, (no, they don't get Admin), those installs go on for ages troublefree.
The big problem is that Windows is sold as "no administrator required". I dare to say, that's a lie. Just as it is a lie that Linux doesn't require a system administrator either.
Mainly because the "base system" is purely text based, if you want to do something with the system, you do it on the command line, there's no GUI based procedure in the FreeBSD handbook.
Strange, I was under the impression that Debian's base install has no GUI either. As a matter of fact, I have a Debian Postgresql server that has never seen anything related to X.
Yes, dogs being pack animals, go insane when alone. That's why you shouldn't get a dog when you're not often at home (or get two dogs and let them in the garden) Having one dog and keeping it in a closed residence is animal cruelty.
I know Blue Pill and Blue Pill isn't a BIOS virus. It doesn't infect the BIOS, it essentially installs a hypervisor under the operating system, which then runs the operating system itself in it. At no point this needs a BIOS modification. MBR is enough.
She could very well just have the TV on for something to listen to while she goes about her hobbies all day
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We leave the TV on for the dog/cat/parrot/other pet so it doesn't get lonely
Both these statements are ridiculous. If she's doing something else and wants some noise, she can turn on the radio or a CD (cassette, LP, according to the timeline). No need to have the TV running that will actually distract you from your occupation.
The "pet" argument is just plain insane.
Besides, I was off with my calculation... I said from 16h00 to 24h00, but that's a mere 8h... For 16h, you need to turn it on at 8h00 in the morning and turn it off at 24h00. Am I the only one that find that absolutely insane? The 8h, I can come into... Kids come home, TV, some soaps, a movie, and your 8h are through, even though that it would be better that the TV is turned off during dinner.
For 16h, the housewife going shopping needs to leave it turned on, for the pet? Is anyone really doing that? Back when I was a kid, we were yelled at if we left the TV running because a friend from the neighborhood went out to play and we forgot to turn it off. We were constantly reminded that electricity costs *real* money.
If your wife passes her whole day before TV, you have bigger problems (cue in Peggy Bundy). As for kids, they should go to school: no 16h of TV for them either.
There is no logical reason to have a TV running 16h per day. As I said, 8h is even a far stretch... That would imply, turning on the TV at 16h00 and watching it till 24h00 every day of the year. That's a truly horrific thought. Not even mentioning the ecological implications of wasting so much electricity.
I can remember quaking in fear when I read about a virus that was polymorphic, stealth, boot-sector infecting, "hold your partition table to ransom", able to transfer to floppies, hard disks and even CD's (WOW!), plus across IPX networks, randomising data destruction etc.
16h per day for a TV?!? Wow... And someone watching all the time, or was it just wasting electricity? It's a shame I was modded Troll (yeah, yeah, I know about my nick) for pointing out the obvious.
Hmmmm... With the multitude of different BIOSes out there, I doubt it is possible to have code that would work on every machines. From time to time one hears of BIOS viruses and the like, but I frankly think they're urban myths.
On the other hand, the MBR is on a fixed position on your harddisk and modern operating systems do not need the BIOS to write to it. It might thus be possible to write the MBR without he BIOS noticing.
Yeah, but the novice user will click "Allow" to get back to work.... Doesn't help. Limited User on XP simply doesn't allow you to do anything that's dangerous. No dialog boxes, no passwords: simply "Access denied" which is how it should be. You want to install something of change configuration login as Admin or use RunAs.
Of course, that would mean that the user knows what he's doing, and we're back to the weakest chain in the link... *sigh*
Far better to let those of us who WANT to contribute to such efforts, make such contribution as we see fit, and with the organization we feel is most likely to do the job properly.
Reality check: most people wouldn't care, and you wouldn't ever get enough funds together. Fund Mission to Mars or see Britney's snatch on TV? You do know what most people will choose, don't you?
Strange, I enjoy drinking my cool beer in the twilight, when the heat of the sun is gone and it's actually bearable.... and I live in continental Europe, where 35C is considered very hot (in the middle of the summer).
It's a very simple compromise: I don't use their machine in my spare time, but I don' *work* for them in my spare time either. I'm not there and you send me an email? Though shit: don't expect a reply.
You see, many employers hope/expect that you work in your spare time (like process emails after hours). That's the same kind of double standard that employees use justify the usage of their work computer for play.
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Not really, if you have a factory and the workers strike, they block the entrance of the factory so that those willing to work can't enter. It's a bit the same: you make sure others can't work because the service you provide (because you get blamed if the shit hits the fan) is not working.
Who says that you can't simply turn of the services with a cron-script at midnight and turn them back on with another cron script when the day of strike is done? At least, that's how I'd do it.
While it's not his point (his point is: that using is possible for the non-technical, even though it needs a bit coaching from time to time) However, I'd like to add to that "With the help of a very knowledgeable system administrator, anyone can use WINDOWS comfortably.".
Why do I say this? Because I haven't met a single non-technical person that doesn't have big bad nasty problems with Windows. Most of those problems are caused by shoddy software, malware, and of course running Admin by default. When I take a computer and reinstall it and secure it, (no, they don't get Admin), those installs go on for ages troublefree.
The big problem is that Windows is sold as "no administrator required". I dare to say, that's a lie. Just as it is a lie that Linux doesn't require a system administrator either.
Hehehe.... Brilliant reply!
Not married to a "fashionista", I guess?
Strange, I was under the impression that Debian's base install has no GUI either. As a matter of fact, I have a Debian Postgresql server that has never seen anything related to X.
Yeah, I found that strange too.... Guess having a wife is "Funny" on slashdot ;-)
Yes, dogs being pack animals, go insane when alone. That's why you shouldn't get a dog when you're not often at home (or get two dogs and let them in the garden) Having one dog and keeping it in a closed residence is animal cruelty.
I know Blue Pill and Blue Pill isn't a BIOS virus. It doesn't infect the BIOS, it essentially installs a hypervisor under the operating system, which then runs the operating system itself in it. At no point this needs a BIOS modification. MBR is enough.
I am truly amazed and disgusted....
Thanks for posting, all hopes I had in humanity have now been destroyed. :-(
Both these statements are ridiculous. If she's doing something else and wants some noise, she can turn on the radio or a CD (cassette, LP, according to the timeline). No need to have the TV running that will actually distract you from your occupation.
The "pet" argument is just plain insane.
Besides, I was off with my calculation... I said from 16h00 to 24h00, but that's a mere 8h... For 16h, you need to turn it on at 8h00 in the morning and turn it off at 24h00. Am I the only one that find that absolutely insane? The 8h, I can come into... Kids come home, TV, some soaps, a movie, and your 8h are through, even though that it would be better that the TV is turned off during dinner.
For 16h, the housewife going shopping needs to leave it turned on, for the pet? Is anyone really doing that? Back when I was a kid, we were yelled at if we left the TV running because a friend from the neighborhood went out to play and we forgot to turn it off. We were constantly reminded that electricity costs *real* money.
If your wife passes her whole day before TV, you have bigger problems (cue in Peggy Bundy). As for kids, they should go to school: no 16h of TV for them either.
There is no logical reason to have a TV running 16h per day. As I said, 8h is even a far stretch... That would imply, turning on the TV at 16h00 and watching it till 24h00 every day of the year. That's a truly horrific thought. Not even mentioning the ecological implications of wasting so much electricity.
What the hell are you doing 16h per day at home? Haven't you got a job?
I don't even have a TV in my bedroom... I read a good book before going to bed, unless my wife has other ideas....
16h per day for a TV?!? Wow... And someone watching all the time, or was it just wasting electricity? It's a shame I was modded Troll (yeah, yeah, I know about my nick) for pointing out the obvious.
Assuming a whopping 8h per day viewed: 100000h / 8h per day = 12500 days / 365.25 days per year = 34.2 years.
For a 25 year old TV? I doubt your statement.
Hmmmm... With the multitude of different BIOSes out there, I doubt it is possible to have code that would work on every machines. From time to time one hears of BIOS viruses and the like, but I frankly think they're urban myths.
On the other hand, the MBR is on a fixed position on your harddisk and modern operating systems do not need the BIOS to write to it. It might thus be possible to write the MBR without he BIOS noticing.
Yeah, but the novice user will click "Allow" to get back to work.... Doesn't help. Limited User on XP simply doesn't allow you to do anything that's dangerous. No dialog boxes, no passwords: simply "Access denied" which is how it should be. You want to install something of change configuration login as Admin or use RunAs.
Of course, that would mean that the user knows what he's doing, and we're back to the weakest chain in the link... *sigh*
Reality check: most people wouldn't care, and you wouldn't ever get enough funds together. Fund Mission to Mars or see Britney's snatch on TV? You do know what most people will choose, don't you?
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I'm pretty sure you can only do that when you're Admin.... Use "Limited User" for crying out loud!
Strange, I enjoy drinking my cool beer in the twilight, when the heat of the sun is gone and it's actually bearable.... and I live in continental Europe, where 35C is considered very hot (in the middle of the summer).
Flamebait? With an explicit smilie? I guess the truth must hurt hard, eh?
You're excused ;-) I get it, but that's really a minority of laptops out there....
It's a very simple compromise: I don't use their machine in my spare time, but I don' *work* for them in my spare time either. I'm not there and you send me an email? Though shit: don't expect a reply.
You see, many employers hope/expect that you work in your spare time (like process emails after hours). That's the same kind of double standard that employees use justify the usage of their work computer for play.