St. Petersburg is the second largest city in the metro area, which is called Tampa Bay
From Wikipedia: "The Census Bureau currently estimates the population for the CMSA at 4,228,855 as of 2010 during consolidation.[3] as of July 1, 2008, making it the second most populous metropolitan area in Florida and fourth in the Southeast."
You should come to one of the SLUG meetings or hacking sessions.
We have talks ranging from programming languages (especially new/interesting ones), robotics, war stories, etc. We have had some guest speakers in the past,
including the first person to setup a webserver in North America.
Disclosure: I've been a member for the last decade; and I'm also the president and meeting coordinator for the Pinellas meetings.
The city was named St. Petersburg by a Russian immigrant and railroad tycoon, Peter Demens (Pyotr Alexeyevitch Dementyev, cyrillic: slashdot won't display)
Slashdot is not written in PHP, though, and uses mysql as just a "data dump", from what I understand.
Slashdot is written in perl, which has first class functions, namespaces, and higher-order functions (map, grep, etc). PHP has none of these, and is something that would take any language designer about a week to implement.
It doesn't really have documentation, and what docs I have are on a server that isn't functioning right now. But if you want a "living manual", I'm dylan in #ccdevnet on freenode.
I think the grandparent was saying most free software / open source programmers program for them selves.
Example: I wrote a replacement for make, which has its own perl-like scripting language. Chances of other people using this? Probably zero. But it annoys me a lot less than the other hundred make replacements, so I use it a lot.
I'd like to point out statically typed languages don't have to be more verbose. With type inference, they can be as terse as dynamically typed languages. See o'caml, haskell, etc.
In my experience, female coders make more elegant code... I'm also amazed at how my girlfriend can explain abstract concepts (types, closures, etc) far better than I can, when she's practically a newbie programmer.:-)
I'd actually think that there is still a good future for native code. However, not C or C++. But perhaps something like ocaml, which can compile to bytecode or native code, but has all the niceties of garbage collection and so on. This would be nice, as ocaml is actually type safe (Java's type system has holes in it, but at least it has generics now...)
I think you need to study the history of folk music before you dismiss the works created by a community of passionate non-artists.
That's how folk music worked. People would take songs, sing them a bit differently. Change the lyrics. Change the tune. Make them longer, or make them shorter.
If you have enough people doing this, and give them enough time and cultural isolation, you end up with a great body of music and culture.
There's nothing more sad than a community without music.:(
Some people play first person shooters for fun. Other people write operating systems. Me, I get my jollies by designing new programming languages.
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Ruby is technically an object oriented language, not a functional one. It has blocks like Smalltalk, but that doesn't make it functional.
Also, PHP is already a larger language than perl, having 3,000 built in functions. And worse, it still doesn't have namespaces. Thankfully PHP 5 actually has some decent OO features.
I've never had much problems with hunting myself. I just wish people were forced to do it without guns or bow and arrow.
Subsistance hunting is different, but very little hunting is that... If you want to hunt for the sport of it, it should be by your own power.;)
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I fondly remember technocrat.net. I promise to submit interesting articles if it is resurrected. :)
Perhaps screwing the pooch would be a better term. Stop having sexual relations with my dog, damnit.
I was looking for a way to mark "Slashdot Staff" as a foe...
Have you ever read the story of the goose that laid the golden egg?
St. Petersburg is the second largest city in the metro area, which is called Tampa Bay
From Wikipedia: "The Census Bureau currently estimates the population for the CMSA at 4,228,855 as of 2010 during consolidation.[3] as of July 1, 2008, making it the second most populous metropolitan area in Florida and fourth in the Southeast."
You should come to one of the SLUG meetings or hacking sessions. We have talks ranging from programming languages (especially new/interesting ones), robotics, war stories, etc. We have had some guest speakers in the past, including the first person to setup a webserver in North America. Disclosure: I've been a member for the last decade; and I'm also the president and meeting coordinator for the Pinellas meetings.
The city was named St. Petersburg by a Russian immigrant and railroad tycoon, Peter Demens (Pyotr Alexeyevitch Dementyev, cyrillic: slashdot won't display)
No, it's ./configure --without-evil.
"I'll make mincemeat outta you!"
in my state (Florida) it is illegal for telemarketers to call cell phones. it's about $1,000 per incident, I believe. Quite nifty, really.
Depends on how you write the program. The glasgow haskell compiler has some truely amazing optimizations.
O'Caml is probably optimizable for that situation, might require treaking the asm it generates, though.
Try writing a crappy haskell program that compiles. :)
:)
Or an O'Caml one.
Slashdot is not written in PHP, though, and uses mysql as just a "data dump", from what I understand.
Slashdot is written in perl, which has first class functions, namespaces, and higher-order functions (map, grep, etc).
PHP has none of these, and is something that would take any language designer about a week to implement.
Dude, you're from the future?
heh, well then, http://gna.org/projects/bake.
It doesn't really have documentation, and what docs I have are on a server that isn't functioning right now. But if you want a "living manual", I'm dylan in #ccdevnet on freenode.
I think the grandparent was saying most free software / open source programmers program for them selves.
Example: I wrote a replacement for make, which has its own perl-like scripting language. Chances of other people using this? Probably zero. But it annoys me a lot less than the other hundred make replacements, so I use it a lot.
ML had garbage collection in the mid-70's, and is statically typed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ML_programming_langua ge
But eiffel is still very interesting. :)
I'd like to point out statically typed languages don't have to be more verbose. With type inference, they can be as terse as dynamically typed languages. See o'caml, haskell, etc.
In my experience, female coders make more elegant code... I'm also amazed at how my girlfriend can explain abstract concepts (types, closures, etc) far better than I can, when she's practically a newbie programmer. :-)
I'd actually think that there is still a good future for native code.
However, not C or C++. But perhaps something like ocaml, which can compile to bytecode or native code, but has all the niceties of garbage collection and so on. This would be nice, as ocaml is actually type safe (Java's type system has holes in it, but at least it has generics now...)
I think you need to study the history of folk music before you dismiss the works created by a community of passionate non-artists.
:(
That's how folk music worked. People would take songs, sing them a bit differently. Change the lyrics. Change the tune. Make them longer, or make them shorter.
If you have enough people doing this, and give them enough time and cultural isolation, you end up with a great body of music and culture.
There's nothing more sad than a community without music.
Some people play first person shooters for fun. Other people write operating systems. Me, I get my jollies by designing new programming languages.
Ruby is technically an object oriented language, not a functional one. It has blocks like Smalltalk, but that doesn't make it functional.
Also, PHP is already a larger language than perl,
having 3,000 built in functions.
And worse, it still doesn't have namespaces.
Thankfully PHP 5 actually has some decent OO features.
I've never had much problems with hunting myself. I just wish people were forced to do it without guns or bow and arrow. Subsistance hunting is different, but very little hunting is that... If you want to hunt for the sport of it, it should be by your own power. ;)
What makes you think there are not females interested in time travel?