Dude. Calm down. Go outside...you know, the big room. Dell absolutely has a point. I'm not saying he couldn't do better and maybe having all these drivers would help.
Which drivers? I've seen WiFi drivers work on one distro and not another. I've seen them work in one version of say SuSE only to fail to work on upgraded versions. The kernel has a lot to do with what works. I'm all for Dell supporting the hardware but they would have to provide several versions of the same driver to make this happen. Like or not, he has a point. He might be using it as an excuse, which is another matter, but he makes a valid point. You can't bitch about Linux not being on the desktop when there are such varying varieties. I'm a huge Linux fan and have used it since about '99 or so. Yet, the Gnome/KDE wars along with the "this distro does X and this does Y" is both a great feature and a sticking point.
I don't want to take this on point-by-point. I think there are ways to have a user-level access XP remotely with other tools so a better comparison still could have been made.
In the long run, you are right. OSX is not perfect. I've supported Windows for many years. I'm very familiar with it and only recently switched to OSX for my main system. Their were several reasons for that. Windows doesn't offer the same set of tools as a *X based systems. Most importantly, the reduction in spyware and viruses mean I don't have to worry about my family PC becoming a little breeding ground for them. Are there problems with OSX? Sure. But when you look at the big picture, Windows is by far the most vulnerable system to be running on a regular basis. Can it be done? Sure. I have a friend who runs zero AV software and doesn't get infected. He, however, and knows what he's doing. I could do the same. I, however, have two daughters and a wife who could not.
One big problem I see lately is, a worm or exploit comes out that targets OSX and Windows users yell, "AH!" Given the thousands of exploits and huge outages that Windows exploits have caused, this is a bit short-sighted.
I agree. Buy betting on Ximian and Mono, Novell essentially decided Gnome would be the platform. Whether your Gnome or KDE inclined, you have to admit dumping KDE when that's SuSE's base was a bad idea. "Hey! I have a great idea! Let's move to another GUI platform and alienate the one set of users that bring the most to the table on SuSE!?" As for Ximian and Mono, Novell was betting on enterprise apps there. Ximian was to provide a polished look and feel and Mono would bring.Net to Linux. They forgot one key factor, no one but Miguel loves Mono. (BTW, aren't we due for another Miguel interview to pop up somewhere?)
First, my head isn't up anyone's ass. You should really calm down. I responded in spirit in which it was given. Your entire rant mentioned only server OS's. I realize that it's UNIX base makes OSX more like a server but that's really beside the point. How many XP boxen are on the Net with TS opened? AND of all of those TS servers you mentioned, how many are in a DMZ scenerio? How many were hardened? This test was spun in such a way to make it appear that someone could merely put their machine on the Net and have it hacked. The truth was, there was a remote login opened for the hacker. Was there still an exploit? Absolutely! Should Apple address it? Definitely. But was it a fair and open test? Wait, was the COVERAGE fair and clear? No.
Exactly. If you wanted to truly compare OS X to Windows in this scenerio, put a PC on the Net with TS opened and give out the user account information.
This is exactly what we had once. They wanted to move from file servers to Exchange.
"Well, we want to move away from file servers and store our data in Exchange."
"You're serious?"
"Oh yes. You can store your personal data in Personal Folders and we'll keep shared data in Public Folders."
"Uh...you're serious?"
"Oh yes!"
"Okay..."
This was crazy to me. I know isinteg must have become their friend.:o
We know this because we've discovered everything on Earth already. We ran this through our big database of shit on Earth thingy and it came up negative.
Again, I'm not completely disagreeing with you here. All I am saying is, "To think that someone could immerse themselves in violence and come away unaffected is idiocy." I didn't say ban anything.
I find it very interesting how much value Slashdotter's place on science and established scientific thinking when it comes to ID and Evolution debates, but when it applies to video gaming you're so willing to suspend it. Classical Conditioning is basic psychology, folks. Pavlov demonstrated this. Frankly, this tells me one simple truth and that is it's all nice to talk about "open-mindedness" until someone attacks something we hold dear. Then we're ready to suspend our intellect and just enjoy ourselves and expect to do so with impunity. To think that someone could immerse themselves in violence and come away unaffected is idiocy. I'm not saying we should shit-can video games. I'm not saying, "GASP! Something needs to be done!" I'm saying, "To think that someone could immerse themselves in violence and come away unaffected is idiocy."
AltaVista had a VERY short life in the spotlight compared to Google. A better illustration is Yahoo!. They were the top for probably a little longer. I think Google struck a cord in two ways: it was very well good and it was simple. Microsoft went after Yahoo! with their portal/search page and no one came. They had Yahoo! and it worked if they wanted fluff. If Microsoft follows their usual path, their search engine will be simple. Look for a look and feel much like Google. Microsoft may very well have backend code to rival Google but they will immitate where possible.
I would expect that if one is open-minded and honest that one wouldn't have to resort to ridicule. Ridicule is a sign of weakness. As for the fossil record showing trans-species evolution, this must be breaking news. I'm pretty educated and don't recall ever seeing nor hearing of such. What sounds more the case is that fossils have been re-examined to fit a given theory. That, I can by.
Look, if I name a scientist, you will simply say, "Hey, I've never heard of him, therefore he doesn't matter."
As for trans-species evolution, there simply is no record. No fossil evidence exists at all. This is why evolutionists rely on mutations and radiation exposure to account for it. It's the same thing over and over. You will belittle Creationists because it fits your preconceptions and your accepted belief system. But to say " Creationists are ridiculed because they typically don't understand the theories they're attacking" is to say you believe no credible scientists that are Christians exist. This is very naive and frankly undercuts your credibility for me. Among your peers, however, this probably bolsters your position.
Ahemm...I think you know I was referring to the theory thereof. I don't deny mutations, evolutionary changes within species, etc. It really doesn't matter. If you search the archives you'll find most people who take a counter position to the Theory of Evolution are ridiculed by "Open-minded, Truth-Seeking" bretheren from the world of scientific facts. It's odd when so many scientists even doubt the theory.
What is more fascinating than their knee-jerk reactions to anyone who doubts the theory is the extent to which they go to vehemently paint Christianity and religion in general as idiots and morons. The cursing and harsh language is quite depressing. This is not always the case, mind you, but more so than not.
This is why I believe most Evolution defenders, on Slashdot anyway, seem to be wanting to justify something. Elevating this Theory kills their notion of "god" thus justifying whatever it is they feel guilty about or whatever blame they feel they need to place on God. But I digress.
No matter which side of the argument you may lie, the mob-mentality that comes when you question this theory is a sad commentary on the spirit of science itself; which is to question, explore, and learn.
These guys are a riot! I mean, great anecdote!...no wait, they're serious? If you own Samsung stock you must be so proud of watching money thrown out on this venture. If only rival companies had gone after the OS market with such frivolty, we might have had stronger alternatives by now. OT, I know, blah blah...
MPAA/RIAA sues little guys...more people stop buying CD's....sales go down...MPAA/RIAA think, "Wow! Our sales are down! There must be more pirating than we thought! Crank up the lawsuit machine!"...more people get sued...less people buy CD's...sales go down...more lawsuits come....more people are sued....less people buy CD's...sales go down...more lawsuits come....I'm getting dizzy....
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Dude. Calm down. Go outside...you know, the big room.
Dell absolutely has a point. I'm not saying he couldn't do better and maybe having all these drivers would help.
Which drivers? I've seen WiFi drivers work on one distro and not another. I've seen them work in one version of say SuSE only to fail to work on upgraded versions. The kernel has a lot to do with what works. I'm all for Dell supporting the hardware but they would have to provide several versions of the same driver to make this happen. Like or not, he has a point. He might be using it as an excuse, which is another matter, but he makes a valid point. You can't bitch about Linux not being on the desktop when there are such varying varieties. I'm a huge Linux fan and have used it since about '99 or so. Yet, the Gnome/KDE wars along with the "this distro does X and this does Y" is both a great feature and a sticking point.
I don't want to take this on point-by-point. I think there are ways to have a user-level access XP remotely with other tools so a better comparison still could have been made.
In the long run, you are right. OSX is not perfect. I've supported Windows for many years. I'm very familiar with it and only recently switched to OSX for my main system. Their were several reasons for that. Windows doesn't offer the same set of tools as a *X based systems. Most importantly, the reduction in spyware and viruses mean I don't have to worry about my family PC becoming a little breeding ground for them. Are there problems with OSX? Sure. But when you look at the big picture, Windows is by far the most vulnerable system to be running on a regular basis. Can it be done? Sure. I have a friend who runs zero AV software and doesn't get infected. He, however, and knows what he's doing. I could do the same. I, however, have two daughters and a wife who could not.
One big problem I see lately is, a worm or exploit comes out that targets OSX and Windows users yell, "AH!" Given the thousands of exploits and huge outages that Windows exploits have caused, this is a bit short-sighted.
I agree. Buy betting on Ximian and Mono, Novell essentially decided Gnome would be the platform. Whether your Gnome or KDE inclined, you have to admit dumping KDE when that's SuSE's base was a bad idea. "Hey! I have a great idea! Let's move to another GUI platform and alienate the one set of users that bring the most to the table on SuSE!?" As for Ximian and Mono, Novell was betting on enterprise apps there. Ximian was to provide a polished look and feel and Mono would bring .Net to Linux. They forgot one key factor, no one but Miguel loves Mono. (BTW, aren't we due for another Miguel interview to pop up somewhere?)
I disagree. AD is simply painted up better. AD is a direct rip-off of NDS and frankly NDS replicates better.
First, my head isn't up anyone's ass. You should really calm down. I responded in spirit in which it was given. Your entire rant mentioned only server OS's. I realize that it's UNIX base makes OSX more like a server but that's really beside the point. How many XP boxen are on the Net with TS opened? AND of all of those TS servers you mentioned, how many are in a DMZ scenerio? How many were hardened?
This test was spun in such a way to make it appear that someone could merely put their machine on the Net and have it hacked. The truth was, there was a remote login opened for the hacker. Was there still an exploit? Absolutely! Should Apple address it? Definitely. But was it a fair and open test? Wait, was the COVERAGE fair and clear? No.
Wow! Looks like you've solved the "is this really true" puzzle, haven't you!
Exactly. If you wanted to truly compare OS X to Windows in this scenerio, put a PC on the Net with TS opened and give out the user account information.
This is exactly what we had once. They wanted to move from file servers to Exchange. :o
"Well, we want to move away from file servers and store our data in Exchange."
"You're serious?"
"Oh yes. You can store your personal data in Personal Folders and we'll keep shared data in Public Folders."
"Uh...you're serious?"
"Oh yes!"
"Okay..."
This was crazy to me. I know isinteg must have become their friend.
We know this because we've discovered everything on Earth already. We ran this through our big database of shit on Earth thingy and it came up negative.
Second City Transport Protocol!? John Candy would be proud!
"will allow us to break free from the office and actually socialise more"
You know, like the Romans!...
Ironic, isn't it? (grin)
Again, I'm not completely disagreeing with you here. All I am saying is, "To think that someone could immerse themselves in violence and come away unaffected is idiocy." I didn't say ban anything.
I find it very interesting how much value Slashdotter's place on science and established scientific thinking when it comes to ID and Evolution debates, but when it applies to video gaming you're so willing to suspend it. Classical Conditioning is basic psychology, folks. Pavlov demonstrated this. Frankly, this tells me one simple truth and that is it's all nice to talk about "open-mindedness" until someone attacks something we hold dear. Then we're ready to suspend our intellect and just enjoy ourselves and expect to do so with impunity. To think that someone could immerse themselves in violence and come away unaffected is idiocy. I'm not saying we should shit-can video games. I'm not saying, "GASP! Something needs to be done!" I'm saying, "To think that someone could immerse themselves in violence and come away unaffected is idiocy."
AltaVista had a VERY short life in the spotlight compared to Google. A better illustration is Yahoo!. They were the top for probably a little longer. I think Google struck a cord in two ways: it was very well good and it was simple. Microsoft went after Yahoo! with their portal/search page and no one came. They had Yahoo! and it worked if they wanted fluff. If Microsoft follows their usual path, their search engine will be simple. Look for a look and feel much like Google. Microsoft may very well have backend code to rival Google but they will immitate where possible.
I would expect that if one is open-minded and honest that one wouldn't have to resort to ridicule. Ridicule is a sign of weakness. As for the fossil record showing trans-species evolution, this must be breaking news. I'm pretty educated and don't recall ever seeing nor hearing of such. What sounds more the case is that fossils have been re-examined to fit a given theory. That, I can by.
Look, if I name a scientist, you will simply say, "Hey, I've never heard of him, therefore he doesn't matter."
As for trans-species evolution, there simply is no record. No fossil evidence exists at all. This is why evolutionists rely on mutations and radiation exposure to account for it. It's the same thing over and over. You will belittle Creationists because it fits your preconceptions and your accepted belief system. But to say " Creationists are ridiculed because they typically don't understand the theories they're attacking" is to say you believe no credible scientists that are Christians exist. This is very naive and frankly undercuts your credibility for me. Among your peers, however, this probably bolsters your position.
You win. Where do I send the prize?
Ahemm...I think you know I was referring to the theory thereof. I don't deny mutations, evolutionary changes within species, etc. It really doesn't matter. If you search the archives you'll find most people who take a counter position to the Theory of Evolution are ridiculed by "Open-minded, Truth-Seeking" bretheren from the world of scientific facts. It's odd when so many scientists even doubt the theory.
What is more fascinating than their knee-jerk reactions to anyone who doubts the theory is the extent to which they go to vehemently paint Christianity and religion in general as idiots and morons. The cursing and harsh language is quite depressing. This is not always the case, mind you, but more so than not.
This is why I believe most Evolution defenders, on Slashdot anyway, seem to be wanting to justify something. Elevating this Theory kills their notion of "god" thus justifying whatever it is they feel guilty about or whatever blame they feel they need to place on God. But I digress.
No matter which side of the argument you may lie, the mob-mentality that comes when you question this theory is a sad commentary on the spirit of science itself; which is to question, explore, and learn.
That's fine as long as they don't question Evolution.
Just try questioning it on Slashdot and watch what happens.
Anything that drains cash from that tabloid works for me.
All that and they'll still lose!
These guys are a riot! I mean, great anecdote!...no wait, they're serious?
If you own Samsung stock you must be so proud of watching money thrown out on this venture. If only rival companies had gone after the OS market with such frivolty, we might have had stronger alternatives by now.
OT, I know, blah blah...
MPAA/RIAA sues little guys...more people stop buying CD's....sales go down...MPAA/RIAA think, "Wow! Our sales are down! There must be more pirating than we thought! Crank up the lawsuit machine!"...more people get sued...less people buy CD's...sales go down...more lawsuits come....more people are sued....less people buy CD's...sales go down...more lawsuits come....I'm getting dizzy....
These people are teaching our children, folks! Well, Canadian children....