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iPod & iTunes: The Missing Manual, 2nd Edition

emmastory writes "When I mentioned this book to some of my friends, the response was usually either 'Doesn't the iPod come with a manual?' or 'Does the iPod even need a manual?' There is, in fact, a little CD-sized booklet that comes with the iPod, and it's true that you probably don't need much more than that if all you need to know is how to turn the thing on and play a song. But one of the great things about the Missing Manuals series is that while they tell you everything a manual ought to, they also tell you an awful lot that a manual never would." Read on for the rest of emmastory's review of iPod & iTunes: The Missing Manual, Second Edition. iPod & iTunes: The Missing Manual, Second Edition author J.D. Biersdorfer pages 349 publisher Pogue Press/O'Reilly rating 9 reviewer Emma Story ISBN 0596006586 summary An inexpensive way to get the most out of your iPod

For example, if you ask someone (like an Apple store employee) how to get MP3s off of an iPod and onto a computer, they'll tell you that the transfer is only supposed to go the other way. The idea is that you're not supposed to be able to just collect the entire music libraries of anyone who happens to drop by your home with his or her iPod. Of course, it turns out that there are plenty of legitimate scenarios in which you might want to be able to get your own music off of your MP3 player. (I certainly intend to rescue my music from my iPod should the external drive that's currently holding my files ever give up the ghost.) The Missing Manual, on the other hand, devotes several pages to detailing the various ways you can go about accomplishing the unspeakable act of iPod-to-computer copying.

And additional content isn't the only thing you'll find in this book -- there's also a significant difference in the depth and helpfulness of the respective texts. I'll compare their coverage of a common question among new iPod owners: what's going on when the iPod screen always says "Do not disconnect"? Here's the answer as given by the iPod User Guide:

Important: If it is not safe to disconnect iPod, a message on the iPod screen says "Do not disconnect." Don't disconnect iPod if you see this message. You could damage files on iPod. If you see the "Do not disconnect" message, you must eject iPod (see page 22) before disconnecting it.

Apple's apparent fear of possessives and articles aside, this is pretty much as bare-bones as you can get. It tells you one thing you can do if you're seeing this message, but not why it's happening, or what to do if ejecting the iPod doesn't make it go away. Here's an answer to the same question in the Missing Manual:

If you've turned on the "Enable disk use" box in iTunes' iPod Preferences panel, the "Do Not Disconnect" message appears on the iPod at all times. You have to unmount the iPod from the computer manually to make it go away (see page 215).

Even if you haven't set up the iPod to work as a FireWire disk, its hard drive may not have spun down properly. If it's stuck in a loop, the "Do Not Disconnect" message may also appear. Try clicking the Eject iPod button in iTunes, or dragging the iPod icon on the desktop to the Mac's Trash, to see if you get the "OK to Disconnect" message. If that doesn't work, try resetting the iPod as described on page 46 and then try ejecting it.

Note: If you live in a cross-platform household and have both Macintosh- and Windows-flavor iPods lying around, make sure you're plugging the WinPod into the PC. Macs are generally friendly towards PC-formatted 'Pods, but not vice versa. Mixing them up can lead to several error messages, including the "Do Not Disconnect" message (even as the computer won't mount or recognize the iPod) and the "This iPod is linked to another Music Library" message.

(Note that I plucked that answer from the iTunes troubleshooting section - there's also a similar response in the MusicMatch section.) I don't know about you, but this strikes me as infinitely more useful and enlightening than the User Guide's response (no offense to Apple's technical writers intended). And of course there are questions answered in the book that aren't addressed at all in the User Guide, nor on Apple's site.

There are plenty of other things that you'll find in this book that you might not already know, and that you certainly won't find in the included booklet - like information about the iPod on Linux Project, or descriptions of a number of different shareware and freeware programs you can grab to enhance your iPod. You'll find tricks to extend your battery life, ways to make the 'Pod behave even more like a PDA than it does by default, and how to boot off of your iPod should the need arise. Of course, it's true that you can find a lot of this on the web by yourself without having to pay for a book, so part of your decision about buying it will depend on whether you care more about spending $24.95 or saving yourself some time.

If you're wondering whether it's worth buying if you don't use Mac OS or if you have an older iPod, rest assured - coverage of all the different iPods is included, and there's material on both versions of iTunes, as well as MusicMatch for Windows. There's not a whole lot about using an iPod with a *nix box, although the topic isn't completely ignored (as you might expect). There's enough about the iPod itself that Linux users wouldn't be making a mistake to pick it up. On the other hand, it's probably not worth buying if you don't have an iPod and are just curious about iTunes. But iTunes is covered in almost every general Mac book out there, so you're not totally out of luck if that's the case. For most iPod owners, though, this book is a great and inexpensive way to get the most out of your new best friend (as long as your new best friend happens to be an iPod).

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201 comments

  1. Might be worth it... by DaHat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My iPod is one of my few toys that I actually would like to know more about and might be willing to pay for an added manual for... provided I learn useful things from it.

    1. Re:Might be worth it... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2, Informative

      If the book has a section on MusicMatch (which, when you consider how much better EphPod and iTunes are at managing the iPod on Windows, nobody seriously uses anymore), it probably won't have anything useful in it.

      If you want to know more about your iPod, hop on over to ipodlounge.com, or one of the dozens of other in-depth ipod fan sites out there dedicated to hacking this clever little device.

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    2. Re:Might be worth it... by foo+fighter · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are wrong.

      The book has a section on MusicMatch because the book is comprehensive in its covering of /all/ things iPod.

      That's not to say ipodlounge.com and the other in-depth ipod fan sites aren't useful resources. But this book is at least those sites' peer in terms of useful information.

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    3. Re:Might be worth it... by SkyWalk423 · · Score: 1

      I'm sure ipodlounge.com thanks you for the shoutout, but now their servers are screaming for mercy.

    4. Re:Might be worth it... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1
      That's not to say ipodlounge.com and the other in-depth ipod fan sites aren't useful resources. But this book is at least those sites' peer in terms of useful information.

      And there lies the rub - who would pay for dead tree when the info is available online for free? Not to say this book doesn't have an audience or a market, considering the success of the iPod, but they're certainly not on Slashdot.

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    5. Re:Might be worth it... by vnguyen6 · · Score: 1

      I got Ipod working in Linux using gtkpod and didn't have to do anything extra.

    6. Re:Might be worth it... by foo+fighter · · Score: 1

      There will always be a case for having a physical copy of information in your hands rather than depending on other sources.

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    7. Re:Might be worth it... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1
      Good point. I should go print out the site then.

      Well, the good bits, anyway. A couple pages will do.

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  2. If you have any trouble with your iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just rebuild the desktop.

    1. Re:If you have any trouble with your iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Just rebuild the desktop.

      ...and zap the p-ram.

    2. Re:If you have any trouble with your iPod by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or press the right combination of keys to perform a hard reset.

      (This actually isn't a joke. My iPod doesn't lock up since 2.1, but before that, pressing Menu-Play for six seconds to reboot after a lockup was a common occurance. Oh, and pressing and holding left and right bypasses the iPod software and goes straight to Firewire mode...useful for when your software config shits the bed and you want to get your MP3s off of it before restoring the software)

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  3. My opinioin by aoasus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, it's true that you can find a lot of this on the web by yourself without having to pay for a book, so part of your decision about buying it will depend on whether you care more about spending $24.95 or saving yourself some time.

    Pretty much sums it up for me....

    1. Re:My opinioin by strictnein · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      great.

      so you posted something that only pertains to you and refers to an opinion that only you know

      That's what slashdot is all about! Posting worthless posts that only you will understand

    2. Re:My opinioin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Are you saying your time is worthless, or that you think you can find it very easily, very quickly?

    3. Re:My opinioin by aoasus · · Score: 1

      Er... I think that many folks would rather spend a little time jut doing the research themselves, instead of forking over their hard earned $25. I just pointed out the most pertinent information (yes, to me) in the review.

      Unlike you, who instead of offering any information, or opinion, only tried to insult me. THAT's what Slashdot is all about? if other's think otherwise, they'll mod accordingly.

    4. Re:My opinioin by strictnein · · Score: 4, Funny

      no... i was just trying to be a jackass... ok... and insult you.

    5. Re:My opinioin by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      Yup. Book it is.

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  4. I'm too lazy to read it... by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe I can get it in audio-book format? Then I'll just load it up on my iPod...

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    1. Re:I'm too lazy to read it... by janbjurstrom · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, some folks in the iPodLinux project have done some work to get flite (a run-time speech syntheziser engine for ARM) working: See this forum thread. It should therefore be possible to have your iPod read you any text file you wish in a cool, monotone computer voice :)

      As you can read in the forum, text-2-speech (ebooks, notes, etc.) as well as a usability for blind people (menus as speech, etc.) are the main motivations (and that it's a cool hack, of course).

      Unsure whether anyone's got it working adequately yet. Check with the devs/users in the iPodLinux forums.

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    2. Re:I'm too lazy to read it... by tcr · · Score: 1

      It should therefore be possible to have your iPod read you any text file you wish in a cool, monotone computer voice :)

      Cool! I'll start with Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time"... :-)

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  5. But will it tell me how to get Linux on there? by blueZ3 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That's what I want to know :-)

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    1. Re:But will it tell me how to get Linux on there? by MacGoldstein · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:But will it tell me how to get Linux on there? by RussR42 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Sweet!

      But does it support DRM?

    3. Re:But will it tell me how to get Linux on there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure! Just use the chmod command and you can lock yourself out of your own files. DRM on Linux uses the honor system :)

  6. Worth it? by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Interesting
    While the iPos looks nice, and admittedly has the best interface of all the MP3 players (owing to the simple design Macintosh has become a master of), is it worth dropping a couple hundred on it?

    I've heard of two design flaws now -- both of which they seem less than inclined to fix beyond a short period of ownership -- and have noticed that PDAs in a similar price range can do MP3, video, and even word processing. If it was reliable I'd buy one tomorrow, but are they yet?

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    1. Re:Worth it? by nearlygod · · Score: 1

      iPos... as in Piece of Sh...?

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    2. Re:Worth it? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Funny

      In a word: Yes.

      The PDAs in the iPod's range have drastically lower disk space and drastically slower sync interfaces. They are not as sturdy as the iPod. Their interfaces are not usable with one hand and the buttons are more fragile.

      Finally, as cool as it may sound to do word processing and watch video on a handheld, in practice you will never do these things. I sold my Toshiba palmtop for way less than it was worth to buy my 30 gig 3G iPod the day it came back. I have never regretted this decision in the least.

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    3. Re:Worth it? by gray+peter · · Score: 1

      Not sure what you mean by "reliable". My mini was perfectly reliable 'till I dropped my bag and the screen cracked. Those suckers are expensive to fix, but I'm fixin' it 'cuz my mini rocks. What design flaws are you interested in? Yes you can play MP3s on a PDA, but can you store practically your entire MP3 collection on your PDA? My Sony Clie plays MP3s, but it can only hold a couple albums worth of music (depending on which memory stick you put in there) and the interface for the music player is nowhere near as slick as the ipods. Using the ipod with itunes is stupid simple as well. I give the ipod and itunes 4/4 apples.

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    4. Re:Worth it? by taped2thedesk · · Score: 3, Informative
      The third-generation (3G) non-mini iPods (15/20/40 GB) are very reliable, AFAIK. I have the 20GB model, and haven't had a single problem with it.

      I believe they had some problems with the 1G iPods, and as everyone knows, with the iPod minis - but the consensus seems to be that if you're concerned about reliability, buy a 3G.

      From the accounts I've heard, they've been very good about fixing the defects lately - they usually ask to keep it overnight for testing, then either repair or replace it. There's a ton of repair stories on ipodlounge.com. In any case, I'd say go for it, especially if you just want the regular iPod. Now that I have one, I'm not sure if I could live without it.

    5. Re:Worth it? by thephotoman · · Score: 1

      Millions of iPod users (myself included) would say that yes, it's worth the few hundred dollars that it'll cost you. Generally, I've found that I don't want to run down my PDA battery, which goes dead rather quickly, whereas the iPod battery does last a while (no, the battery isn't that bad, if you take care of it and don't let it run down too much too often). Yes, they're reliable. The only problem I have with mine is hooking it up to my desktop, but that's because WinXP totally messed up my desktop and the Firewire ports on it don't work. As for video, I've found that most users wouldn't use their iPods for video anyway, given the size of the device. The screen is just too small for that. So yeah, it is worth the money. I wouldn't consider recommending anything less to those in the market for an MP3 player.

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    6. Re:Worth it? by mattkime · · Score: 1

      If it was reliable I'd buy one tomorrow, but are they yet?

      Congratulations proud soon-to-be ipod owner! Yes, they are reliable. Its the most reliable portable electronics device that I've owned. Yes, I'm sure you've heard horror stories about ipod problems but they're actually quite rare - dare you to find a product that doesn't have horror stories. Even the battery issue is overblown. You can pick up higher capacity replacement batteries that even ship with a tool to open the ipod. Its really not that much worse than installing RAM.

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    7. Re:Worth it? by jazman_777 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Now that I have one, I'm not sure if I could live without it.

      Just another sign of Western Decadence: people will die if you take away their iPods.

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    8. Re:Worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The software interface is nice, but the hardware interface is horrible. Touch sensitive buttons are not friendly to those who want to use the thing while moving (hiking, biking, in a car, etc.). Plus, you have to be looking at the thing to run it, you can't just feel for the right button (cause touching it even slightly activates it).

      MilesTeg

    9. Re:Worth it? by Kenja · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The price is higher its true, however for my dollar you get more. Also the storage space is an issue, but I dont realy need to carry around more then half a gigs worth of songs at a time.

      As for the rest....
      I pull the CF/SD card out and stick it into a USB2/IDE/SCSI flash reader. How is that a "drastically slower sync interface"?

      I would put the sturdiness of many PDAs on par with the iPod. Sory to tell ya, but plastic and alunimun are prety much the same regardless of the logo.

      I have a touch screen on my PDA, 100% customizable interface with no hardware buttons. Works great one handed, while in my pocket etc...

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    10. Re:Worth it? by martingunnarsson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So true. Think about it, you can listen to music almost no matter what you are doing, but watching video requires your attention. That's why portable video players never will be as big a hit as portable music players. Also, the iPod runs pretty long on one charge. I think the specs say 8 or 9 hours, and that ain't very far from the truth with a new unit. I love my iPod, I rarely leave home without it.

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    11. Re:Worth it? by toasted_calamari · · Score: 1

      I pull the CF/SD card out and stick it into a USB2/IDE/SCSI flash reader. How is that a "drastically slower sync interface"?

      If I recall correctly, flash memory writes at 4 MB/s, much less then a firewire linked harddrive.

      I might be wrong though.

    12. Re:Worth it? by dave420 · · Score: 0, Redundant
      And those PDAs at a similar price range have how much storage? Certainly not 40gigs... That's the killer part about the iPod - sheer storage space, in such a small form. PDAs can't compete with that, as they have so much extra hardware in them. It all takes up space.

      The flaws in the iPod (which, btw?) are not enough to stop it being one hell of a useful tool. I'm an IT guy/developer-type and I use it to take gigs of stuff to the office and back, and play me music on the way. PDAs aren't good for that at all :)

    13. Re:Worth it? by athakur999 · · Score: 1

      "Drastically slower sync interface" is misleading, but I can see how an iPod would be faster in transferring files. Your average notebook sized hard drive such as those used in the iPod probably has a faster write speed than most Flash memory devices, so writing a large amount of data would be faster.

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    14. Re:Worth it? by Kenja · · Score: 1

      The last benchmark I've seen shows the iPods having a write speed of 2594k/sec over firewire. However I'm not sure if that was the minis or the older versions.

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    15. Re:Worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, probably more a sign of the "superlativization" speech pattern we see so much of (especially from the Mac camp, under the firm guidance of Mr. RDF).

      I used to loathe the "OMG I LOVE MY $Apple_Thing OMG OMG!!"-meme(s) ...well, I still do, but as they're pretty much legion in society today I guess I've learnt to 'tune out'. I own an iPod (3g), and while it's a good gadget, it's still just a gadget. /jb

    16. Re:Worth it? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's a very detailed set of benchmarks for you.

      Time to copy 100 megs of MP3s to my 24x CF card over a firewire multireader: 4:32.

      Time to copy those same 100 megs to the iPod: 48s.

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    17. Re:Worth it? by ktulu1115 · · Score: 1

      Short answer: Yes.

      Granted I havn't had mine (20gb model) for a week yet, but so far I love the thing. Great for taking to the gym and I can't *wait* until winter comes to go snowboarding with it.

      Warning: iTunes sucks a big one. I think a group of monkeys could write better software, oh wait sorry that was Windows. If you're going to get one and use it on a Windows platform (I have to, Firewire doesn't work well on my Linux desktop system yet), get EphPod. Good software with a lot of features.

      Now that I'm on ths topic I might also mention that EphPod does not store your song ratings, if you want to backup/edit them check out this thread.

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    18. Re:Worth it? by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Just for sake of discussion, I think iTunes kicks holy ass. The smart playlists and database organization (rather than relying on ID3 tags) are features I didn't even know I was missing from Winamp.

      So, hey! Different solutions for different humans.

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    19. Re:Worth it? by Drawkcab · · Score: 1

      I can see how the interface wouldn't suit everyone, but I personally disagree. I use my iPod (2nd gen, 3G) only when moving, either at the gym, walking, or biking, and I don't have any troubles with the interface. It does require toggling the "hold" switch on and off frequently, but the device is so small in the palm of the hand that I don't find that to be inconvenient. And when I had an old-school flash mp3 player, I had to do the exact same thing, because even push buttons can be pushed accidentally when the player is in a pocket or being bounced around. I recently "downgraded" to a mini, and the interface is even less susceptible to those sorts of problems because its a combination of push button and touch sensitive slide wheel, so the worst that happens from a minor accidental touch is that the volume is slightly adjusted.

    20. Re:Worth it? by aaronl · · Score: 1

      24x CF are 3600KB/s. It should have taken approximately 27.78s to copy that to your card.

      Cards are of varying quality, as are readers, but you still should have been getting over 1MB/s. Unless you have a CF card made by SanDisk, which are just horribly slow. Try getting an IBM or Pretec card.

    21. Re:Worth it? by Kenja · · Score: 1

      So you claim to get around 370Kb/s off of a 24x CF card? Hate to tell you, but there is somthing wrong with your reader or your card. Thats about 10x too slow.

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    22. Re:Worth it? by pdxmac · · Score: 1

      Dood, come on.

      I sat in the parking lot at CompUSA when they were introduced, and bought the first one at the store. I now have a 40GB model. Both have worked perfectly.

      But... it is not (really) a PDA. Yeah, yeah, contacts and appointments. But, without an input method, not really that useful.

      But it is a kick-ass music player.

    23. Re:Worth it? by contradyction · · Score: 1

      Your average notebook sized hard drive such as those used in the iPod probably has a faster write speed than most Flash memory devices, so writing a large amount of data would be faster.

      However the iPod hard disk runs with much less power and spins slower than a notebook hard disk. From what I've seen, a decent quality CF card writes at about the same speed as an iPod.

    24. Re:Worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But, without an input method, not really that useful.

      Whatever do you mean?! ipodlinux comes with both the 'minix' shell and 'sash'! Fine shells both, and with some hacks to provide a usable (if not comparatively very efficient) interface :)

    25. Re:Worth it? by Stinking+Pig · · Score: 1

      In a word, no. I bought myself an iRiver iHP-120 for about $100 less than a 20GB iPod; it supports Ogg and WMA in addition to MP3, has a radio tuner and a voice recorder, and plugs into anything as a simple hard drive without any hiding of the music.

      My wife bought a mini-ipod. It looks better, I'll give it that -- but neither of us likes the user interface, I had to set up a windows machine so she could use the Audible and iTunes software, and she can't figure out how to make either do what she wants. She's a long-time Linux user, but doesn't care to sit at a computer and make it do what she wants -- Evolution, Mozilla, Gaim, acroread and OpenOffice are all she really uses.

      My iRiver gets daily use from both of us; the mini iPod is gathering dust until some rainy day when we can devote time to figuring it out. Just a satisfied user, not an iRiver shill.

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    26. Re:Worth it? by jonfelder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ephpod works fine under wine. Windows is not necessary.

      Precisely what does she want the software to do? The device plays mp3s. The software transfers mp3s to the device and allows the creation of playlists.

      It honestly isn't that complicated. If you find it difficult to use, you're doing something wrong.

      Hint, it won't play video, open cans, drive your car, etc.

    27. Re:Worth it? by merikus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have a 1st Gen iPod.

      About a year and a half ago, I was in a major accident involving slipping off a road and flipping down an embankment about six times. Myself and all the other passengers in the car were injured from the accident.

      The next day I went back to take pictures and find my iPod. I found it about 10 feet from the car, buried in the snow. I pressed play and it worked; it still works to this day.

      If that isn't rugged, I don't know what is.

    28. Re:Worth it? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      ipodlinux is a retarded fucking idea.

      I want my ipod to play music, and play it well.

      When I want to put data into it, I will sell it.

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    29. Re:Worth it? by taped2thedesk · · Score: 1

      Heh... actually, I'm not really a huge fan of Apple at all. It's actually not the iPod that is so great to me, just the fact that I can have all of my music with me everywhere I go. It's made slow days at work and long roadtrips much more tolerable. I can put my entire music collection in my pocket, rather than lug around a bunch of CDs or my laptop to do it. It's made my life a little bit better, which is exactly what gadgets should do.

    30. Re:Worth it? by Xenna · · Score: 1

      Also, the iPod runs pretty long on one charge. I think the specs say 8 or 9 hours

      Funny, that's one of the main reasons I didn't buy an iPod but went with the iRiver H140 which has double the battery life.

      The other main reason is that the iRiver is accessible as a normal disk, no problems copying files from it. I hate it when Apple decides what I can and - most importantly - can't do with my files for some silly reason.

    31. Re:Worth it? by ktulu1115 · · Score: 1

      Rather than replying on ID3 tags? That's exactly what iTunes does - you *have* to use ID3 tags to organize your collection, and hence the reason I despise it so much.

      I personally think they are a pain and don't bother using them, I just put all the info I want in my filenames and sort my MP3's hierarchically by genre, band (alphabetically), album (chronologically), then track number.

      IE:
      /mnt/storage/multimedia/mp3/3 - Alternative/5 311 - Transistor/04 311 - Beautiful Distaster.mp3
      /mnt/storage/multimedia/mp3/3 - Alternative/9 311 - From Chaos/12 311 - I'll Be Here Awhile.mp3.

      Seems to work the best for my purposes.

      However, if you like ID3 tags and have all your MP3's tagged already then you'd probably like iTunes... It's all a matter of opinion, but I am glad to hear that at least someone out there enjoys it.

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    32. Re:Worth it? by martingunnarsson · · Score: 1

      Thanks to the copy restrictions, Apple has got the support of the big record labels. They think it's perfectly fine that you buy a song at the iTunes music store, and copy it to your iPod (any number of iPod's as a matter of fact. They wouldn't have been OK with this if you could use the iPod to copy the songs to your friend's computers.
      Yes, I know there are ways, but the average Joe doesn't know about them. And that's what's most important.

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      Martin
    33. Re:Worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear ya - and feel the same way about my ipod. (And just to be clear, I really didn't mean to pin the "MacFanBoi" label on you specifically; I saw now how it could be read like that, sorry. The "superlativization" part had to do with your post, but the extrapolation to my 'I-hate-[mac]-fanboyism' vent was meant as a general case, not 'taped2thedesk-is-one,-the-bastard!' ;) ) /jb

    34. Re:Worth it? by taped2thedesk · · Score: 1
      Gotcha.

      You'd be surprised how often I get "'taped2thedesk-is-one,-the-bastard!'" :)

    35. Re:Worth it? by Moofie · · Score: 1

      The key feature of iTunes is that it parses the ID3 tags into a searchable database, so it doesn't have to do like Winamp and open...
      each...
      file...
      sequentially...
      to...
      get...
      the...
      data...
      from...
      the...
      tag.

      I had no idea how big of a difference this made until I started using the smart playlist feature.

      I used to use an organization scheme like you do. But being able to query the database and get back exactly the music I wanted, regardless of the file system structure, is an absolute killer feature. But whatever floats your boat...

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    36. Re:Worth it? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised by the ruggedness of most Apple designs. Not to say that I haven't had the occasional problem (the sagging CD drives of pre-slot loading 'books, the hinges on the titanium iBook, the prone to cracking when dropped four feet onto the concrete from a fast moving bicycle Pismo) -- but for the most part, I've dropped, smacked, slid, and scratched most of my Apple gear to hell and it keeps coming back for more. I had a blue and white CRT fall five feet and honest-to-god BOUNCE, and the thing still worked great. My poor ipod has been abused to death, multiple droppings (many at the gym) and it's as good as the day I bought it. Part of that is thanks to the iSkin case. But most of it is the sturdy, solid design that covers the screen and sinks most of the controls into the body.

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    37. Re:Worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There, there dasmegabyte. Your assertions seem to make the notes/calendar/contacts functions 'bloating' the Apple firmware equally retarded ideas (and playlist manipulation like ratings is obviously "putting data into it"), so none of that is for you I take it ;).

      However, the "what-can-be-done?" factor is certainly there for quite a few people. Perhaps not a 'necessity-itch' to scratch for most, but some people want to have general flashcard reader support (photographers), high-quality sound recording (sound engineers), OGG Vorbis/FLAC support (geeks), etc. - ipodlinux might provide solutions where Apple has not.

      Having an open, free platform on the toy is intriguing for them/us, not to mention fun to play around with. (A shell on an mp3 player - fun!, an XML parser [e.g. picoXML] - fun!, a webserver [e.g. boa] - fun!, etc.).

      If for nothing else, just to see what can be done that Apple didn't think of, didn't want to do, or didn't know how to do (for the current price).

      Personally, the existance of the ipodlinux project was the deciding factor for getting an ipod and not some other HD music player (well, that and I got a sweet deal from an Apple employee).

    38. Re:Worth it? by funshine · · Score: 1

      well...like it or not, part of what we're paying for is the trendiness of the product. just depends on whether or not you think trendiness is worth the higher price tag, and personally, i think it is.

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      But why would I want to do a thing like that?
  7. Missing from the book: Decrypting your Tunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Missing from the book: Decrypting your Tunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not call it DFUM (Digital Fair Use Management) ... that which removes DRM (Digital "Rights" Management)

    2. Re:Missing from the book: Decrypting your Tunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why not call it DFUM (Digital Fair Use Management) ... that which removes DRM (Digital "Rights" Management)
      Why not just call it DRM? We users have rights, too.
    3. Re:Missing from the book: Decrypting your Tunes by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      Find your own TRON

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  8. Does the manual include... by The+Anointed · · Score: 2

    information on the: "apple screen of death" "two-finger suicide" Rant on.

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    1. Re:Does the manual include... by thephotoman · · Score: 1

      The Apple Screen of Death is easily cured by using the "two finger suicide". That latter is a hard reset. I've not lost data to it yet, and I've had to do it a couple times due to my computer crashing (for unrelated WinXP reasons) while I was updating my iPod.

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  9. Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by joeykiller · · Score: 4, Informative

    I thought this was impossible for a while, until I mounted the iPod as a disk in Windows and used the command line to poke around the iPod. It's very simple: All the MP3 files are stored in hidden directories, and you can copy them to your heart's content with regular DOS commands such as copy.

    The only downside is that the files are stored with cryptic names in directories with meaningless names. But if your files have correct ID3 tagging, the organization of the files won't matter much.

    1. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 4, Informative

      Try ephpod.

    2. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by SnowWolf2003 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another excellent tool to do this is EphPod

    3. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by egg_green · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What I've never been able to find out is how to recover data such as ratings and playcounts from the 'pod. I lost my harddrive back in February, and I STILL haven't re-rated all of my music!

      Any tips?

    4. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by nominanuda · · Score: 1

      You can also see the files if you just use the terminal.

    5. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by joeykiller · · Score: 4, Informative

      On my iPod this is stored in a file called iTunesDB in the folder \iPodControl\iTunes (or /iPodControl/iTunes for those of you on Linux/Unix or OS X)

      It seems to be some kind of a binary version of the xml file that is the iTunes database on your PC or Mac.

      If you're really interested, this guy has tried to document the format of the file. For me the play count and ratings are not as essential to preserve as the music files themselves.

    6. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by ilsie · · Score: 1

      Ephpod is cool, but in order to get music off my iPod, just go into iTunes and say "Add folder to library" while "Copy files to iTunes Music Folder when adding to library" is checked. Then you select whichever drive your iPod is mounted as, and it will copy all the unique files off the iPod and into your library. It skips files that are already in the library, which is nice. And, if your files are tagged properly, iTunes will organize them all nice and neat for you.

    7. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by dave420 · · Score: 1

      I wrote a simple PHP script to rip the tunes off the iPod. It parses the iTunesDB file for the song information, and copies the MP3s off into a artist/album directory structure, renaming the MP3s properly and re-writing complete ID3v2 tags. It works on linux, windows and macs.

    8. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like a neat script... can you post a link to it?

    9. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by dave420 · · Score: 1

      It's not in the wild. It's really simple - I figured if anyone wanted to use it, they could just write it themselves :-P I'd have to do too much work on it to make sure it doesn't destroy anyone's computer, and I'm rather busy at the moment ;)

    10. Re:Retreiving MP3 files off the iPod by nicky_d · · Score: 1

      If you're using iTunes on an Apple rather than on a Windows PC, the easier solution is to grab one of several Applescripts that will simply copy the selected iPod tracks to your iTunes library and / or hard drive. I use this one, which does the job just fine, but there are others. I'm sure these are covered in the book.

  10. Next time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone asks you how use an Apple product - just tell them to RTFMM!

    1. Re:Next time... by thephotoman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Correction: Next time somene asks you how to use an Apple product, give them an electroencephelogram. They might be brain dead.

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    2. Re:Next time... by thephotoman · · Score: 0

      That wasn't intended as flamebait. Generally, I've found Apple products to be idiot-proof.

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    3. Re:Next time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but slashdot moderators are a better class of idiot.

  11. So how do you copy to disk? by Thinkit4 · · Score: 1

    Religious arguments aside, how do you copy from iPod to disk? Never had one of these. I'm guessing it should just show up in a folder on the drive.

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    1. Re:So how do you copy to disk? by joeykiller · · Score: 1

      I wrote a reply on this just a couple of minutes ago. It's right here.

      Some of the replies to that comment mentions EphPod as an excellent tool for copying songs off the iPod.

  12. Geeking... by lacrymology.com · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ahhhh, how I yearn for the day when hardware came with code snippets, bound manuals, 3d-glasses, etc... If I recall, my first system (c64) came with the computer's schematics!

    -m

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    1. Re:Geeking... by eggoeater · · Score: 1

      Yeah... I once heard that, long ago, when you got a computer, you got the SOURCE code to the OS. I mean...can you imagine?!? The actual CODE to the OS... it just blows my mind! I wonder if we'll ever see those days again...

    2. Re:Geeking... by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      The c64 didn't ship with the schematics, they were a foldout in the back of the Programmer's Reference Guide - which was a seperate purchase, though you may have gotten it bundled.

      The unit only shipped with the tiny little users manual which didn't have a whole lot to say about anything. It had some BASIC code examples, that was about it.

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    3. Re:Geeking... by bahamat · · Score: 0
      Yeah... I once heard that, long ago, when you got a computer, you got the SOURCE code to the OS. I mean...can you imagine?!? The actual CODE to the OS... it just blows my mind! I wonder if we'll ever see those days again...


      While new Macs don't come with the OS source code, you can download it for free. And while it's also true that not all of the software that comes with the OS is open (read Aqua) it is the only hardware available that I know of that the source code for the software that comes with it is available.

      This wouldn't be true if there were any PCs that came with Linux in their default config from the mfgr.
    4. Re:Geeking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It started with simple basic programs, but went all the way through sprites and sound (peek, poke), and ended with connector pins overview and the ROM memory map. The last one didn't get interesting until you started doing assembly stuff.

      It didn't have the details of the programmers reference guide, though. Where the user manual only listed the entry points of every ROM routine, the programmers reference guide actually explained what each routine did.

  13. Only if . . . by Sloh_One · · Score: 0, Redundant

    It will tell me how to play my .ogg files with it. >

    1. Re:Only if . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      first, you re-rip your music into a format that other people actually use.

      then, you copy them onto the ipod with one of the many available programs.

  14. It's just a computer, right? by 14erCleaner · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want to know how to run a gnutella server on my iPod.

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    1. Re:It's just a computer, right? by sploo22 · · Score: 1

      Maybe with this?

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  15. More Knowledge = More Fun by grunt107 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any book that exposes "hidden" features or ease-of-use, IMO, makes the toys more enjoyable. Like the hidden API call/DB function that saves development and run times.

    1. Re:More Knowledge = More Fun by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      Mod parent sideways!!!!!1!!111!111!1111

      +1 reference to Secret Knowledge

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  16. Mod Parent Up! by Jackboot · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    that's all i care about

    1. Re:Mod Parent Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you don't care about battery life? Vorbis is a horribly CPU-eating format.

  17. Hymn fixes iTunes 4.6 support by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Informative

    The latest version of Hymn also works with iTunes 4.6, and still maintains the AppleID in the file.

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  18. I am thinking about buying an iPod. by Senator+Bozo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are they really so complicated that I have to buy an extra manual from a 3rd party? Normally Apple's products have a reputation of being easy to use.

    1. Re:I am thinking about buying an iPod. by phearlez · · Score: 1

      Congrats, usually people need a RTFA - you didn't even read the executive summary at the top before asking this question.

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  19. flamebait, with a kernel of truth. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I suppose most of the "missing manuals" are worthless, except maybe winxp considering the lack of a useful manual. But if you have to read a book to figure out a system or device that is supposedly the easiest to figure out... then you aren't the steriotypical slashdot reader. I guess it would be hypocritical, if Apple was the publisher of the missing manuals. But they aren't. The more functional a device is the more difficult it is going to be to learn how to use all of its functions( hey did i just make that up? I haven't heard that before, maybe i need to get out more. Or just maybe i have discovered newton's law of functionality! ALL HAIL my obvious statement put into law form!!).

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    1. Re:flamebait, with a kernel of truth. by bcrowell · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I suppose most of the "missing manuals" are worthless, except maybe winxp considering the lack of a useful manual.
      The Apple manual is indeed pathetic.

      But if you have to read a book to figure out a system or device that is supposedly the easiest to figure out... then you aren't the steriotypical slashdot reader.
      I guess I'm not the stereotypical Slashdot reader, but I thought the iPod was extremely difficult to figure out. For instance, it may have seemed obvious to Apple how to use the circular menu selection gizmo, but it wasn't obvious to me, and the documentation didn't explain it. I spent a lot of time trying to get the menu selection to move up and down by pressing the top and bottom of the gizmo, which didn't work. It may sound silly, but I don't see why they expect users to intuit an entirely new metaphor that they've never seen before. Since when is it obvious that a line on the screen maps to a circle on the touchpad? But that was just one of many hassles I had my first afternoon with the iPod. Personally, I think emacs was a lot easier to learn than the iPod's user interface.

      If you read Apple's forums, you'll also find that there have been a lot of hardware problems, as well as lot of nasty problems caused by buggy software updates.

      My wife loves the thing, but I guess I failed to bond with it. I've also gotten spoiled by open source -- it feels really yukky to go back to using a completely proprietary system.

    2. Re:flamebait, with a kernel of truth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even with the simplest of OS interfaces, there are so many things a user can do that a reference will come in handy. These manuals save you time finding your way around so if your time is worthless then you are indeed correct.

    3. Re:flamebait, with a kernel of truth. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Emacs? Easier to use than the iPod?

      I think you're a freakin' loony.

      I'm trying to figure out how you could have held your finger still enough on the touchpad to not get it to move the cursor at all.

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    4. Re:flamebait, with a kernel of truth. by _|()|\| · · Score: 1
      I suppose most of the "missing manuals" are worthless

      The only Missing Manual I've spent any time with is for Mac OS X. So far, it has been a worthwhile purchase. I've picked up several tips in the first few chapters, especially keyboard shortcuts. These may be in the on-line help, but I'm getting up to speed more quickly with the book.

      I haven't felt the urge to get the iPod book. Maybe if I wanted to figure out how to copy songs, or boot from the iPod, it would be worth it. Even then, for one or two tasks, Google and USENET are your friends.

      One of my favorite books is Unix Power Tools. O'Reilly's Hacks series is similar, but less comprehensive. A quick peek at Mac OS X Hints was encouraging, as well. I happened upon a hint to turn off the textured metal skin of a Cocoa app. by opening a file from its package in Xcode.

    5. Re:flamebait, with a kernel of truth. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      That is assuming that it will take you longer to figure it out than the cost of the time to find a book that has what you want and read it ( in addtion to the cost of the book). Manuals are good for things that aren't obvious like programming languages, api's, assembly instructions for a boeing 777, quantam mechanics for alchemists, and why doesn't love me after finding me in bed with your mom.

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    6. Re:flamebait, with a kernel of truth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in Vancouver, I've been approached on the bus by a woman who wanted to know how to adjust the volume. She was really happy when I showed her. No, I'm not trolling. I gave her a quick tour of some other features as well.

      Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that for most people involved in technology, the method for figuring out how something works is to play with the buttons until something happens. Other people are much more cautious.

  20. Can't resist punning.... by Impeesa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it just me, or did whoever formatted the article forget to close an iTag?

  21. CD-sized booklet? by Spudley · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is, in fact, a little CD-sized booklet that comes with the iPod

    This booklet is the size of CD? What? Are they being deliberately ironic, or something?

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    1. Re:CD-sized booklet? by jellisky · · Score: 1

      I'd doubt it. The box that iPods come in (at least mine did) are cubes that have similar dimensions as the length of a CD booklet. I'd chalk it up to coincidence. The box happens to fit the whole setup pretty well.

      -Jellisky

    2. Re:CD-sized booklet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they being deliberately ironic, or something?

      Yeah, like 10000 spoons when all you need is a knife, or rain on your wedding day, or meeting the man of your dreams and then his beautiful wife (oh-god-no, he isn't even gaaaay!).

    3. Re:CD-sized booklet? by weinford · · Score: 1

      The question that arises is: when will we be far enough to use iPods for size comparions instead of CDs? "The booklet is CD size" is outdated, rather use "The booklet is about iPod size" or "double iPod mini size" would be necessary to reach all those young children who never had access to such an antique medium as a CD.

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  22. Kudos to the missing manual line... by phearlez · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... for pricing their books according to their worth and utility, rather than weight. This one, according to B&N, is a full 350 pages - a decent sized book. Despite that, it's a (comparitively?) reasonable $25. I can't count the number of books I've sat in Borders with a cup of coffee and read rather than purchased because it wasn't worth $40 for the chapter that I really needed.

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    1. Re:Kudos to the missing manual line... by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      Unless you got plain coffee you paid 2 or 3 bucks to read one chapter of that book. I'm not trying to be picky, its just that the /nerd in me feels obligated to point out that you got ripped if that book didn't have more than 20 chapters in it.

      At least i made it through the post without insulting anyone.

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    2. Re:Kudos to the missing manual line... by phearlez · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your math assumes that I drank that coffee only because I was going to read the book, rather than the more accurate analysis that I am a caffine whore of the highest order and would be drinking coffee somewhere else if I wasn't drinking it in Borders.

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  23. Other things you can do with iTunes by tobes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ok, time for some shameless self promotion.

    If you have iTunes check out Musicmobs. You can upload your XML file or sync your iTunes stats via an open source Cocoa application called Mobster.

    It will give you a profile of what you listen to, suggest new music, show you people that have similar tastes as you, and show you related artists for all of your bands.

    It's growing fast so get in now to get a low userid :)

    1. Re:Other things you can do with iTunes by gphinch · · Score: 1

      Does it also report to the RIAA which of your mp3s are stolen?

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    2. Re:Other things you can do with iTunes by tobes · · Score: 1

      No, since it doesn't know where you get your music from. For all Musicmobs knows you've ripped your whole cd collection.

    3. Re:Other things you can do with iTunes by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      ...show you people that have similar tastes as you...

      Oh goody.
      I'll be given a list of things people like me have consumed and so I'll be coerced into acting like people like me.
      For fuck's sake, people are already sensitive to the choices of the group.
      Why not codify it and bend serendipity over the coffee table?

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  24. yay slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Beowulf Cluster of Arrogant Insensitive Clods!

  25. "PDAs in a similar price range" by jbellis · · Score: 1

    ... will will have maybe 512MB of storage, and that's at the high end. So they're useful for the plug-the-mp3-player-into-your-computer-and-grab-so me-tunes-before-going-for-a-jog style of portable music, but not for the here's-my-music-collection-plus-my-home-directory style a hard-disk based player gives you.

    1. Re:"PDAs in a similar price range" by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Actually, I've never seen a PDA that had a fast enough interface to do that. My old Toshiba unit had the slooooowest internal ram, and the USB cable just performed Serial-over-USB for a grand total of 115kbit. Using the wireless ethernet was slightly better, I could maybe get 256kbit off of that...but it was still a pain to get music into it.

      I didn't know what fast was until I plugged the iPod into my firewire card and was able to transfer my whole collection in less than ten minutes. It used to take me that long to store 60 meg!

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  26. Linux on the iPod by SKPhoton · · Score: 1

    And now for the obligatory question, "Does it tell you how to put Linux on your iPod?"

    1. Re:Linux on the iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean how to use your iPod on Linux. For Linux on the iPod check out http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/.

  27. What happened to by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    iPod & iTunes: The Missing Linux Version ?

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    1. Re:What happened to by gerardrj · · Score: 1

      Ya know... people say that, but what do they mean?

      Linux the kernel operates on about 8 different major CPU/system types.
      The kernel could be custom compiled by the end users to extremely varied settings from driver selection, to memory management to being modular or monolithic.
      On each system there may be dozens of variations on what libraries are used (GNU, BSD, other), and what system layout, starup scripts, etc are used.

      There is no standard "Linux" system one can write software for because Linux isn't a platform. It isn't even an OS, it's just a kernel.

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    2. Re:What happened to by jonfelder · · Score: 1

      iPod & Ephpod & wine: The works just fine on Linux Version.

  28. Re:ipod oblivious by gray+peter · · Score: 3, Funny
    I seriously hope you're kidding....

    Play songs == Browse and then push the 1 button when it's over the song/album/playlist you want

    Adjust volume == spin the little wheel around clockwise or counterclockwise (I'll let you figure out which is which).

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  29. Slashdotters reading... by chia_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdotters don't even RTFA. And you expect us to RTFB? Egads!

    This is an odd position to be in. We all want the most out of our toys. Most of us generally play with our toys to figure them out. And we also search online or ask our geeky friends how we can get around this and that. Then again, a book that tells us all...hmmm...

    Do we RTFB or not? Hm.

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  30. Reset iPod by bahamat · · Score: 1
    If that doesn't work, try resetting the iPod as described on page 46 and then try ejecting it.


    I'd really like to see what's on page 46. Sometimes my iPod freezes and I've tried every button and button combo that I can think of to reset it but nothing works and I have to wait for the battery to run down.

    I even tried looking at the sample chapter on O'Reilly's website which includes page 46, but didn't have anything about reseting it.

    If anyone happens to know the secret handshake that reboots the iPod, I'd love to know.
    1. Re:Reset iPod by br0ck · · Score: 1

      Hold down menu and play simultaneously for about 4 seconds.

    2. Re:Reset iPod by MikeXpop · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hold Menu and Play/Pause for 6 seconds.

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    3. Re:Reset iPod by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 1

      Just press and hold both the play/pause button and the menu button for a few seconds (both simultaneously).

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    4. Re:Reset iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely, just hold down the "Menu" and "Play/Pause" buttons until the screen goes blank (something like 5 seconds or so). Shortly after that you'll see the Apple logo and it will come back up.

    5. Re:Reset iPod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to be the one to tell you this, but your iPod is hopelessly broken and no amount of button-pressing is going to help -- it's way beyond repair and therefore worthless. Out of the goodness of my heart, and in the interests of helping a fellow geek, I'll take it off your hands for, say, $20.

      No need to thank me.

    6. Re:Reset iPod by Jaeger · · Score: 1

      That was in the little booklet that came with the iPod, which I read the day after I got it when I wanted to know what to do. (Try reading the booklet if you still have it -- it'll take ten minutes, and you'll know more than you do now.)

      As other repliers have suggested, hold the Menu and Play/Pause buttons for several seconds will reboot the iPod; you'll see the (black-and-white) Apple logo as the little computer reboots. (I recall the booklet telling me to toggle the Hold switch before resetting, which doesn't actually seem to be necessary, but it does remind me to make sure Hold isn't enabled, which will prevent the reset sequence from working.)

  31. iPodLounge by Rexz · · Score: 5, Informative
    I doubt the book contains anything that can't be found trivially at the iPodLounge

    For example, their compendium of software includes:

    A workaround for EU volume limitation
    Ripping, encoding and tagging recommendations.
    A utility to mass export Outlook contacts
    News and Weather syndication downloaders.
    By far the best way to retrieve your MP3s (a utility that sits on your iPod itself and is executable over a network!)
    The fantastic iPod Agent, which creates beautiful XML music lists as well as performing loads of useful functions

    Every other area of the lounge is equally as exhaustive - from iTunes configuration (you can do amazing things with smart playlists!) to headphones and case reviews. Visit the site instead of buying a book.

    (Oh, and I'm in no way involved with the Lounge other than being a fan.)

  32. iPod Programming? by flyinbutrs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been wondering this for a while, and this article seemed like a good place to pose the question. Is there any way to program plugins for iPod's interface? I've done a fair amount of research through google and iPod message boards, and have found precisely zilch about how to code programs for iPod. Is it possible?

    1. Re:iPod Programming? by dave420 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The software's in firmware, so you'd have to be pretty clued-in on the procedure. It sounds like a great way to ruin an iPod :-P

    2. Re:iPod Programming? by pwynne · · Score: 0

      The latest issue of MacTech (don't remember the cover date so I'm not sure if it's on the stands yet; it's not the "latest issue" at mactech.com, though) has an article on writing programs for the iPod.

      IIRC, it's a dialect of SNOBOL called SNOJOB with ROT13 applied to the code afterwards. I haven't read the entire article yet, though.

    3. Re:iPod Programming? by pwynne · · Score: 0

      Forgot to mention: apparently you can access a lot (most?) of the Carbon libs this way. The article builds a simple app to show QuickTime movies on the iPod. (Though why anyone would want to view them in such a tiny screen is beyond me.)

  33. Best interface? by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 1

    I like the Neuros Audio player interface much better. It has five programmable function buttons that you can use as shortcuts to common tasks/items. Now that is cool.
    I'll take a powerful interface that is still easy to use over one that is simply easy to use any day.

  34. convenience by SuperBanana · · Score: 1
    This booklet is the size of CD? What? Are they being deliberately ironic, or something?

    The packaging has to be at least the dimensions of a CDROM, since the windows side needs software. Thanks to the music industry there are a ton of printers who know very well how to make low-page-count, CD-sized booklets.

    1. Re:convenience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They include mac software on that CD too. I guess not everyone uses software update to get recent versions of iTunes and the iPod updater.

  35. Re:3rd post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh well, the dog had a good run.

  36. Re:Only ballbag-licking pickle puffers own iPods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I resent that, you teabag-loving fudge-packing felcher! Off with your dick!

  37. Why is this modded funny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this modded funny?

    1. Re:Why is this modded funny? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Got me son.

      Me thinks moderators slipped their finger. Luckily, I meta-mod everything as unfair anyway, so eventually this guy won't be a problem.

      --
      Hey freaks: now you're ju
  38. Re:This is the only iTunes manual I need... by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    What a stupid site. Here is a summary of their arguments:

    1. They are upset that Apple is offering music from the major record labels. They think Apple should have basically started a completely new label.

    2. They think it is too expense, because ripping a CD from a friend and sending a buck to the artist directly is cheaper.

    3. They don't like lossy compression. They don't explain anywhere what this has to do with ripping off artists.

    4. Kazaa is cheaper. How this gets money to the artists is not covered.

    The one sentence summary: iTunes doesn't give enough to the artists, so it is better to use methods that give nothing at all to them.

  39. Re:Only ballbag-licking pickle puffers own iPods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah!

    Umm.. 'Real Men Use Gramophones!' (or something)

  40. What is the target audience for this book? by bugmenot · · Score: 0

    I gave an iPod as a gift to my mother and it took me almost an hour to explain to her how it worked and how she could use iTunes to manage her songs. She would never have bought a book like this simply because she would not want to waste her time reading it. How many users actually RTFM?

    On the other hand, most of the geek population would never purchase such book because either the information is easily available on the Internet or we figured it out after playing with the iPod for 10 minutes.

    --
    This account has been seized by the GNAA. That is all.
  41. Cheap alternative by Jaycatt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're not using it for jogging, you could also look into getting an inexpensive MP3 CD player. Bring along 6 CD-R's of your favorite tunes and you've got quite a bit of storage. A $50 one I got works great in the car and never skips. Runs quite a while on the 2 AA batteries too (and it's pretty easy to throw an extra pair in wherever I'm going). Don't think it would work well for jogging, though. After a year of that, I finally broke down and got a car MP3 player, but I still use the portable player to take to parties, etc, along with a cable to patch it into friends' audio systems.

    --
    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy is increased. Thus we refute entropy" - Spider Robinson
    1. Re:Cheap alternative by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      I prefer an in-dash MP3 CD player myself as well over connecting up an iPod to the audio-in connector. The MP3 CD player gets me some of the advantages of the iPod (8-10 hours at a go, random access), but without having to reach over and fiddle with a device setting on the passenger seat when I want to change up music or flip to the next song. (In-dash MP3 players are almost always better located for eyes-on-the-road musch changing.) Changing discs by feel (with only a quick glance at the visor to pick the new disc) is easier/safer then hunting playlists on a tiny screen.

      What might be acceptable would be if there was a dash-mount accessory that holds the iPod just below eye-level on the dash. Still has the issue that you have to spend lots of eye-time to find a new playlist.

      The downsides of having a bunch of MP3 CDs, however, is the management of all those discs. OTOH, if I lose a disc, I haven't lost all of my music collection. But if I want to carry 6 different types of music, that almost guarantees that I have to carry 6 CDs because most MP3 players don't understand playlists. (Which makes doing a random shuffle of only half the songs on the disc an exercise in frustration.)

      The big advantage of the iPod is it's size and portability. Even mini-CD players (I have one... it's okay, but a mini iPod would be better) are big and bulky. However, for jogging or other types of exercise, a 128MB or 256MB flash-based unit is going to be better / lighter.

      (For the record, I have a in-dash car MP3 CD player, a portable mini MP3 CD player, a regular sized portable MP3 CD player, and a boombox that reads MP3 CDs... an iPod would definitely work replace the two portable players.)

      --
      Wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?
  42. iPod & iTunes: The Missing Manual by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...it's always in the last place you look!

    CB

    1. Re:iPod & iTunes: The Missing Manual by infinidim · · Score: 1

      What kind of idiot finds what he's looking for and then keeps looking?

    2. Re:iPod & iTunes: The Missing Manual by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 1
      What kind of idiot finds what he's looking for and then keeps looking?

      ...the same kind of people that read slashdot all day and post comments.

      CB

  43. Re:This is the only iTunes manual I need... by thephotoman · · Score: 0

    1. They've already ticked off Apple Records (a label started by the Beatles and owned by EMI) a few times by simply calling themselves Apple Computers. There's currently a lawsuit over the trademark infringment over the existance of iTunes and the iPod. 2. How do they possibly think they could send a buck directly to the artists? And the artist isn't the only person involved in the production of a CD. You've got the studio, the producer, and a bunch of technicians that work on the recording as well. They've got families to feed as well. 3. It's either having lossy compression and getting the files in decent time on a high-speed connection and take up as little space on your hard drive as possible, or having non-lossy compression that takes up more space and takes forever to download. 4. Of course Kazaa is cheaper, but can you consistently get high-quality encoding of the songs you want on it? What about the aforementioned personel in number 2?

    --
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  44. If you like ephod try sharepod by jomas1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ephod has to be installed for you to retrieve mp3s and while that may not be a big deal on your home computer you may want to try sharepod which allows you to copy songs from your ipod to your computer without any installation. Useful when dealing with someone else's computer. Here's a link:
    Sharepod.
    Here's a quote from the page:
    " wrote this program because none of my friends have an iPod, so of course don't have Ephpod/iTunes or similar installed on their computers. With SharePod, nothing needs to be installed, the program is stored and run from your iPod. All you need to do is plug your iPod into a computer and run SharePod.exe SharePod reads your iPod database and allows you to extract music files to your hard drive, either individually or by playlist. You can also create Winamp playlists from the music on your iPod so you can listen to it without needing to copy the mp3 files to your computer. If you are on a network, (e.g. at work/university) and you share the iPod drive on the network, other users can run your copy of SharePod from their own computers, and download music directly from your iPod! This allows P2P type music sharing just by plugging in your iPod :) There are several programs out there which do these things and more, but are required to be installed on each computer first, or require large supporting files to be downloaded, which is a pain when round at a friends house. VB source code is also available"

  45. Zero-need. by ksilebo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There really is no need more than what the instruction booklet that comes with the iPod and a google/Apple KB search for everything else.

    If all of that confuses you, you probably should stick to a discman, sans MP3 support.

    I have problems justifying books anymore when a search online yields information faster and usually more accurate than a book ever could. So if some kind of information dark age ever did come about, and there was no Internet, I ask that someone put me out of my misery...

    1. Re:Zero-need. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      So, you're not interested in paying for the value add of somebody collating and editing the information presented in this book.

      That's fine. What makes you think that there don't exist people who disagree with you?

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
    2. Re:Zero-need. by jonfelder · · Score: 1

      So, you're not interested in paying for the value add of somebody collating and editing the information presented in this book.

      Most of the information presented in the book can probably be found at: http://www.ipodlounge.com/

      In the time it takes you to:

      1. Order the book and have it shipped
      or
      2. Go to the store and pick up the book.

      You could've easily googled the info and had it with no cost to you and considerably less of a time investment.

      I'm not particularly interested in paying for the value add of somebody collating and editing the information presented on a single website. If you are, and know of other like minded individuals I can start work on a book of +5 moderated slashdot comments.

      That's fine. What makes you think that there don't exist people who disagree with you?

      That's the interesting thing. It doesn't matter what the issue is, how morally reprehensible it is, how disgusting, etc...there's always someone who disagrees with you. In this case, it doesn't make it less stupid.

    3. Re:Zero-need. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Dude! Don't buy the book if you don't think it's valuable!

      I've already learned a few things in the blurb of this article, and in the discussion of the book, that I haven't learned combing iPodLounge. And yes, I read iPodLounge regularly.

      What on Earth could be "morally reprehensible" about publishing a book some people might find useful? Should everybody ask you before they try to publish a book, to find out if you think it's "morally reprehensible" or not?

      The value of the book is editing and collating knowledge. There's lots of knowledge out there, and lots of people make their living collating and organizing it.

      Just because Google exists doesn't mean that libraries are not useful.

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
    4. Re:Zero-need. by jonfelder · · Score: 1

      I've already learned a few things in the blurb of this article, and in the discussion of the book, that I haven't learned combing iPodLounge. And yes, I read iPodLounge regularly.

      You didn't have to buy the book to get it either. BTW...put your money where your mouth is. What did you learn that cannot be located via iPodLounge or google? If I cannot locate that information on the iPodLounge or via google within ten minutes after reading the post, I will concede. This, of course, will be done on the honor system.

      I never said that publishing a book was morally reprehensible.

      I said:

      It doesn't matter what the issue is, how morally reprehensible it is, how disgusting, etc...there's always someone who disagrees with you. In this case, it doesn't make it less stupid.

      In this case the issue is stupidity. I could put out a book describing a thorough examination of the smells of dog crap from different breeds of dog and someone will buy it. It's just the way it is.

    5. Re:Zero-need. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that the book might have even more info in it than the blurb and the discussion.

      And, specifically, the particular piece of data that I obtained is that Windows formatted iPods work with Macintoshes, but not vice versa. I was unable to find a useful discussion about that subject on iPodLounge when I looked for it.

      The piece of data I wanted may very well have been there, but it wasn't close to hand.

      I'm not dissing iPodLounge, it's a great resource. But books are also useful to some people. Maybe not to you...that's cool.

      But deciding that a book is stupid because the information might exist somewhere else is, well, stupid.

      Go ahead and write your dog crap book. Somehow I doubt that it'll sell as well as this book will.

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
    6. Re:Zero-need. by jonfelder · · Score: 1

      The information you "learned" was incorrect.

      From the faq:

      Can I convert a mac ipod to a windows ipod or vice versa

      If you meant use it without changing the format:

      From the faq again:

      Can I use my iPod on both my Mac and Windows computers?

      If you want specifically to use a Windows formatted iPod on a mac. From the faq yet again:

      Can I use my Windows formatted iPod on a Mac computer?

      Vice versa? You guessed it from the faq:

      Can I use my Mac formatted iPod on a Windows PC?

      Time to type in the url for ipodlounge and click help->ipod faqs: 10 seconds.

      Time to read faq page: approx 1 minute. The book is stupid because it provides information that can be found easier, cheaper, and faster without it.

    7. Re:Zero-need. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Like I said, iPodLounge is a great resource. Had the Search feature brought me these links, it would have solved my problem. However, I didn't happen to find the FAQ link under the Javascript. You knew where to find it, and that's great.

      However, thanks for the linkage and the pointer to the FAQ. I'm sure that there is useful information in there as well.

      But I still don't quite understand why you've got such a mad on for people who publish books. You think O'Reilly should go out of business because people should just read HOWTOs?

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
    8. Re:Zero-need. by jonfelder · · Score: 1

      Like I said, iPodLounge is a great resource. Had the Search feature brought me these links, it would have solved my problem. However, I didn't happen to find the FAQ link under the Javascript. You knew where to find it, and that's great.

      I had no problem with the search. I tried it with "windows ipod on mac". It pulled up a bunch of crap. The crap was sorted by date and appeared to to do an or search instead of an and search. So, then I clicked "advanced search", typed in the same criteria again, click "search for all terms", and click "search in title".

      I got 8 hits. The first 3 weren't relevant, but here's the last 5:

      4
      Can I use my Windows formatted iPod on a Mac computer?

      Yes, however this process is not supported by Apple, and may yield weird results.

      Dec 24, 03

      5
      Can I use my Mac formatted iPod on a Windows PC?

      Yes, however you must purchase third party software such as MacOpener to do so. Otherwise, you will...

      Dec 24, 03

      6
      Can I use my iPod on both my Mac and Windows computers?

      Yes. Install and format your iPod for use on a Mac with the iPod Software for Mac. Install Ephpod,...

      May 31, 03

      7
      Can I convert a Mac iPod to a Windows iPod or vice versa?

      Yes. You can convert either format iPod to the other. To convert a Windows iPod into a Mac...

      Feb 16, 03

      8
      If I enable FireWire Disk mode on my iPod, can I just manually copy over MP3s and playlists to my iPod using Mac Finder or Windows Explorer?

      You certainly can manually copy MP3s (or any other files for that matter) to your iPod once...


      But I still don't quite understand why you've got such a mad on for people who publish books. You think O'Reilly should go out of business because people should just read HOWTOs?


      I'm not angry and no. Many O'reilly books are an excellent resource. I'm sure this one is too. The reason why is because they provide a complete resource for information that is often scattered all over the place. In addition the books are often written by the very people who designed (or are intimately involved with) the original software they cover.

      For example perl books written by Larry Wall or Randal Schwartz. They aren't just references, they are definitive references.

      I'm sure you're no stranger to this, but the howtos and docs for many pieces of software both OS and CS are crappy. If it's programming books you are reading, they provide incite into programming concepts and the best way to do things...stuff that the docs won't tell you and that if you weren't already knowledgable you wouldn't find yourself online (you could find it, for example a sorting routine, but unless you are knowledgable you may not know if it's the best one). The howtos often don't contain examples, provide a complete description, or are full of technobabel.

      I don't like this particular book. I believe it's a waste of time and money...not for the author, they will probably make something off it, but for the reader. I seriously doubt there's anything in the book that isn't in iPodLounge. I doubt the book explains it any better than the articles in iPodLounge. I doubt you can find it any faster than in iPodLounge. It also costs more money than iPodLounge. Finally, it's written by someone who is basically a technology enthusiast. I could've searched iPodLounge and put this book together.

      Compare that with my favorite O'reilly book, "The Perl Cookbook". It contains information that you could not find from a single source. The information is often times the best or most concise way of doing whatever it describes. For many topics the author presents multiple recipies. Some are faster, some are more concise, some are more reliable. The author describes which are which and why in good detail (information you would not get when looking up the topics yourself). The book is written by one of the best "perl experts" in the world...it's almost like by buying the book you get a pass to one his courses or speaking engagements. In short, the book provides value.

    9. Re:Zero-need. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      That's cool man. It may well be that I was looking last year, before a lot of these articles went online. I don't currently own an iPod, but I was checking them out for, uh, budgeting purposes.

      Some people like the structure of reading a book. I read O'Reilly's Palm Pilot book from cover to cover. Same thing with their Lego Mindstorms book. Lots of the data in both of these books is readily available on the Internet, but I bought the books because I was paying for structure and organization of knowledge.

      It may well be that you COULD write this book by just parsing iPodLounge. If you did so, it might be worth $20 to some people.

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
  46. Any can tell me? by enjoilax · · Score: 1

    is iPodSoft mentioned? yes i am part of it and no i dont have the money/time to get the book myself.... :-( Working 2 jobs and school sucks.

  47. Overpriced Junk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should I mention that there are equivalent players out there made by other companies that do pretty much what the iPod does, but hold more and cost less?

    Nah. Wouldn't wanna upset the fanboys.

    1. Re:Overpriced Junk by mdarksbane · · Score: 1

      So go buy one and stop bitching.

      It's definitely enjoyable to use, and I don't feel like I got ripped off. Just because someone can make something cheaper does mean that the iPod's a bad value, just possibly not the best.

  48. Yes, but how long does it take... by mrgeometry · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... to move a 17 MB file from one folder to another?

  49. audioscrobbler much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  50. The book also covers iTunes by swell · · Score: 3, Informative



    The book also covers iTunes. This simple fact seems to have eluded 99% of Slashdoughters. The title begins with "iPod & iTunes: The Missing Manual"

    Has the glitter of hardware so completely overwhelmed us that the software and the shopping concept is lost in the dust? The cute iPod is only the tangible aspect of a concept that is revolutionizing the entertainment industry. A small aspect at that.

    The software and the link to the store are important to be sure, but I'd like to mention a small insidious part of the iTunes grab for world domination.

    In its friendly way, iTunes offers to organize your music for you. It places the music on your disk or iPod and provides you convenient access to it. You can rearrange your playlist in many useful ways.

    But suppose that some day in the future you decide that you like another music player better. Suppose you decide to move your gigabytes of music to the new player and leave iTunes behind.

    You are in for a sad surprise. Your files are nested into subfolders so deep that it may take months to bring them out into daylight where you and other software can see them. Those MP3s or AACs or whatever are buried where only iTunes can find them. The convenient indexing features are dependent upon data stored in files that other software doesn't understand- don't expect your new software to be able to use them.

    Apple will encourage you to use iPhoto and other programs which use proprietary file systems to order their files too. The name of the game is control. You want convenience, you give up control, you become dependent and the manufacturer has you right where they want you.

    Many manufacturers offer proprietary methods of managing your documents which seem very convenient until you consider a move away from their product. Try moving your financial data from one mfgr's product to a competitor's product as an example.

    There is a pressing need for new methods of organizing data on media, but reliance upon these proprietary systems is probably not in your best interest.

    --
    ...omphaloskepsis often...
    1. Re:The book also covers iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the 'iTunes Music Library.xml' file sitting in your iTunes folder that describes your entire library and all your playlists in nice standard parseable XML? Real obscure.

  51. look around a bit more before deciding by dekeji · · Score: 1

    While the iPos looks nice, and admittedly has the best interface of all the MP3 players (owing to the simple design Macintosh has become a master of),

    I wouldn't take this on faith; go play around with some other MP3 players at a big electronics store (one that keeps them running) and see for yourself. The software part of the iPod seems OK, but I like the actual hardware controls on other devices better. And other devices are often cheaper.

    Another problem with the iPod is that you can't recharge it through USB (at least last I looked at it)--when you travel, you need to travel with a power supply and other stuff. With other MP3 players, all you need is the player and a standard USB cable (and if you forget that, you can buy it anywhere). You can recharge the iPod through a thick FireWire connector, but most laptops don't have those, and even many desktops don't.

  52. he's right, you know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's right. iPods look nice, but there are better, more functional MP3 players out there.

    But, of course, the vocal and zealous Apple fan base wouldn't allow you to hear about this: that's why they mod down anything critical of Apple instead of responding.

  53. My printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Came with a quick setup guide, but no manual *cires* It's criminal, though I did manage to work out though the pictures they had included of the accessories that the ethernet adapter was just a parrell-port dongle, shame.

  54. nested into subfolders so deep by guet · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple will encourage you to use iPhoto and other programs which use proprietary file systems

    err, I hate to deflate your paranoia, but in fact iTunes stores the music neatly in folders at

    Music > Artist > Album1 > .MP3 or .AAC files for that CD

    So all the music is neatly ordered on your hard disk. If you don't like AAC you can easily choose . MP3 to encode the files with instead in the preferences. Other programs can play AAC files through quicktime (though not the copy protected ones you might have bought from the music store). This is on a mac, I don't have a PC to see what they do there. There's a neat little .xml file too that you could parse if you actually did want to get some of the itunes info out. Actually the information in your MP3s is stored in ID3 tags, which are understood by just about every other music player.

    As for iphoto, all the photos are stored as jpegs (last I heard that was an open standard), and exporting them is as simple as dragging and dropping out of the program. If you want the captions there are several export plugins for iphoto I believe, for going to HTML etc. The folder structure is a complete mess (incompetence or malice, you decide), but they have now added aliases to all your photo albums so you could easily write a script to extract those images if you choose to do it without a plugin. There is also an xml file with all the Album data.

    Much as I agree that proprietary/closed file formats are evil, the two programs you cite just don't use them, and are in fact good examples of extending open formats (MP3, XML) to add value without locking in customers.

  55. 'Pod and iPod have the same number of characters. by puargsss · · Score: 1

    So why abbreviate it? I don't understand!

  56. Open terminal, use mv */*/* . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The files are stored in $musicdirectory/artist/album, so if you open up a terminal window, navigate to your music directory, and type "mv */*/* .", everything will end up in a vile mess in a single directory. If you change the iTunes preferences for encoding, select everything in the library and choose "Convert to $format" from the menus, your pooter will chug for a while and reproduce everything in the new format. You may have to leave your iBook plugged in for a decent collection, tho.

  57. Re:This is the only iTunes manual I need... by morgue-ann · · Score: 1

    They think Apple should have basically started a completely new label.

    Apple could have.

    It's quite reasonable for a computer and consumer electronics company to want to remain that, but Apple is big enough and has built the distribution channel (iTunes + iPod) to start another label. They are doing "exclusive" content at ITMS, so someone's realized that content can drive iPod sales.

    CDs for sale at Starbucks are from Hear Music which only sell there and at one of the five company-owned stores. They do license tracks from Big 5 record labels, but in the past, they signed their own artists. They seem to have shifted to "Artist's Choice" and other compilations exclusively, but this model is still open for exploitation. How 'bout a label that sells burned-on-site CD-Rs at independent coffeeshops?

  58. anapod by guitarded · · Score: 0

    why is it that this always gets left out.

    this is my fav ipod app by far

    http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/