You're still missing the point. The fact that you have source means you're never dependent on a vendor (i.e. Microsoft) to fix a problem with the code. You don't have to wait for a service pack. You can hire someone to fix it yourself if it's not important enough to anyone else.
And that's one of the biggest benefits of open source in this case.
Sounds like a great area for one of the developers or even a consultant that has a lot of experience with hylafax, etc., to make a living out of working with free software.
This is certainly something I would consider once I finish school with (insert your free software project here), if Linux and Open Source is at least as big as it is now.
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That's not true though. I spend plenty for those 400Mhz+ processors. If a software modem will take 15% of the CPU time out of my system, I'll spend the extra money and get a real modem. The hit is a lot more than 1%. I think they even mention that in the article.
Same thing in New York. What I always did when I bought a used car was lie on the registration application, and say I paid a lot less than I did.
Usually the seller agrees to give me a receipt saying I paid him less than I did. Helps to pay in cash and make that part of the deal when you get the car I suppose.
I'm not sure about the legality of this, but they didn't seem to check these things very carefully anyway.
$ ping 128.119.41.46 PING 128.119.41.46 (128.119.41.46): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 128.119.41.46: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=158.6 ms 64 bytes from 128.119.41.46: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=146.0 ms --- 128.119.41.46 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 146.0/152.3/158.6 ms $ telnet 128.119.41.46 Trying 128.119.41.46... Connected to 128.119.41.46. Escape character is '^]'.
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I would tend to think so too. He had a link to the web server and it gave out an ip address. Unless he's doing some sort of trick with portforwarding, the machine's running Digital Unix.
Oh please, he gets attacked for having one too many Red Hat articles, or for posting an article about Microsoft, or for posting one too many Linux articles in a day, or for any number of other little nitpicks that anonymous cowards come up with just to try and divert the conversation to an attack on slashdot.
Heck, I know I'd get paranoid about it after I while if I was Rob.
But anyway, this is completely off topic. So let me mention something on-topic here.
There are lots of books out there that have glimpses of the future. Books liek 1984 or Brace New World, or even Fahrenheit 451. Amazing (and good!) that they make kids read this in high school. At least I had to.
Back to the topic, though, If he's just completing this, as in the story, how could it have been written way back when. Am I just losing it here?
Why don't we all just use IRC? Great instant messaging protocol. You can get rid of people, talk to as many or as few people as you want, etc. etc. etc.
We don't need no steenkin AOL or MS bull.
BTW: Did anyone every take a look at MS Comic Chat, MS's bastardized version of IRC?
Quite amusing at first, but it's really annoying after a while. Reminds me of Windows actually.
I have a roadrunner cable modem account (called Optimum Online here), and they don't officially support Linux, but it still works.
Do a lot of people use roadrunner with Linux, and do the cable companies mind much? I mean, I haven't been hassled about it, but will I be hassled about it? I don't see any reason to stop people from running whatever OS they want, but there might be evil people out there wanting everyone to run Windows for some odd reason.
There are other easier ways of dying. There's more purpose in making things that will help people out. There's no shortage of toxins or other potential problems humans would have.
Linux has far more mindshare at this point in time, and there are far more developers maintaining it. Darwin is barely a few months old. It doesn't have the momentum Linux has.
Hhahah, now this other one is more the style of a good parody. It just needs the whole site around that. I'd love to get ahold of the script that does that.
That's funny. My mom is in her late 50's and I installed Linux+KDE on her machine, and she's had no trouble using it for E-mail and for other things.
She didn't know anything about computers, so she had nothing to unlearn. It starts up in KDE for her, she logs in, checks her email, goes on the web maybe, and then logs off, and shuts down the comp.
No crashes to worry about. No DLL hell. None of that crap.:-)
To each his own, I suppose. Once Linux is installed, it's not any harder than Windows IMO.
Of course you're talking to a lot of programmers and system administrators, which are currently the hub of the user community of Linux, who have devoted their lives to computers, and it could certainly become religious.
There are many in the group who also have a lot of other interests, but there are some who are interested only in computers. This probably happens in any field.
Too bad that isn't going to happen because so many people contributed to the kernel. You would have to buy out thousands of developers, each of whom probably have convictions.
In other words, it isn't happening. Linux is going to stay free.
If you look at the source of the page, you can see the following:
//---! original index.html is backed up as index.html.old !---//
(took out greater-than and less-than signs)
Looks like the crackers were just having a little bit of fun. I found it kind of amusing. If the page is gone, at any time later, im gonna mirror it at http://high.amvalue.com/~edgy/seti in case anyone misses it.
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You sure about that? I read an article recently that he's presided over something like 50 Texas executions since he's been governor there.
I don't think either of the two candidates will do any better than the other.
America is heading to shit and no one cares and it sucks.
You're still missing the point. The fact that you have source means you're never dependent on a vendor (i.e. Microsoft) to fix a problem with the code. You don't have to wait for a service pack. You can hire someone to fix it yourself if it's not important enough to anyone else.
And that's one of the biggest benefits of open source in this case.
Sounds like a great area for one of the developers or even a consultant that has a lot of experience with hylafax, etc., to make a living out of working with free software.
This is certainly something I would consider once I finish school with (insert your free software project here), if Linux and Open Source is at least as big as it is now.
That's not true though. I spend plenty for those 400Mhz+ processors. If a software modem will take 15% of the CPU time out of my system, I'll spend the extra money and get a real modem. The hit is a lot more than 1%. I think they even mention that in the article.
Same thing in New York. What I always did when I bought a used car was lie on the registration application, and say I paid a lot less than I did.
Usually the seller agrees to give me a receipt saying I paid him less than I did. Helps to pay in cash and make that part of the deal when you get the car I suppose.
I'm not sure about the legality of this, but they didn't seem to check these things very carefully anyway.
$ ping 128.119.41.46
PING 128.119.41.46 (128.119.41.46): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 128.119.41.46: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=158.6 ms
64 bytes from 128.119.41.46: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=146.0 ms
--- 128.119.41.46 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 146.0/152.3/158.6 ms
$ telnet 128.119.41.46
Trying 128.119.41.46...
Connected to 128.119.41.46.
Escape character is '^]'.
Digital UNIX (eternity.cs.umass.edu) (ttyp3)
login:
I would tend to think so too. He had a link to the web server and it gave out an ip address. Unless he's doing some sort of trick with portforwarding, the machine's running Digital Unix.
Uhh, everybody else doesn't have to pay taxes? There's no taxes for transactions done over the phone, etc. Try thinking outside of the box for once.
Oh please, he gets attacked for having one too many Red Hat articles, or for posting an article about Microsoft, or for posting one too many Linux articles in a day, or for any number of other little nitpicks that anonymous cowards come up with just to try and divert the conversation to an attack on slashdot.
Heck, I know I'd get paranoid about it after I while if I was Rob.
But anyway, this is completely off topic. So let me mention something on-topic here.
There are lots of books out there that have glimpses of the future. Books liek 1984 or Brace New World, or even Fahrenheit 451. Amazing (and good!) that they make kids read this in high school. At least I had to.
Back to the topic, though, If he's just completing this, as in the story, how could it have been written way back when. Am I just losing it here?
Why don't we all just use IRC? Great instant messaging protocol. You can get rid of people, talk to as many or as few people as you want, etc. etc. etc.
We don't need no steenkin AOL or MS bull.
BTW: Did anyone every take a look at MS Comic Chat, MS's bastardized version of IRC?
Quite amusing at first, but it's really annoying after a while. Reminds me of Windows actually.
I have a roadrunner cable modem account (called Optimum Online here), and they don't officially support Linux, but it still works.
Do a lot of people use roadrunner with Linux, and do the cable companies mind much? I mean, I haven't been hassled about it, but will I be hassled about it? I don't see any reason to stop people from running whatever OS they want, but there might be evil people out there wanting everyone to run Windows for some odd reason.
There are other easier ways of dying. There's more purpose in making things that will help people out. There's no shortage of toxins or other potential problems humans would have.
I mentioned this on an IRC channel that I'm a member of, and 2 or 3 people from the channel immediately went, "No way! Where is it?"
Then minutes later, "Looks like I got to get my shit together and install Linux"
:-) This can only be good for Linux.
Sure you can. I've bought in blocks of 200 shares, blocks of 75, blocks of 50 shares, anything you want.
Linux has far more mindshare at this point in time, and there are far more developers maintaining it. Darwin is barely a few months old. It doesn't have the momentum Linux has.
Hhahah, now this other one is more the style of a good parody. It just needs the whole site around that. I'd love to get ahold of the script that does that.
That's funny. My mom is in her late 50's and I installed Linux+KDE on her machine, and she's had no trouble using it for E-mail and for other things.
:-)
She didn't know anything about computers, so she had nothing to unlearn. It starts up in KDE for her, she logs in, checks her email, goes on the web maybe, and then logs off, and shuts down the comp.
No crashes to worry about. No DLL hell. None of that crap.
To each his own, I suppose. Once Linux is installed, it's not any harder than Windows IMO.
What does this have to do with anything? We already know Linux is more reliable than NT in general.
So, why would you spend more money to get something that is less reliable?
Oh darn! I was going to get that thing out of the closet and use it for something useful.
:-)
:)
That thing was pretty cool though, for its time. Too bad I used up all its 16K ram trying to write a program for it once.
I must have been like 12 years old back then
Of course you're talking to a lot of programmers and system administrators, which are currently the hub of the user community of Linux, who have devoted their lives to computers, and it could certainly become religious.
There are many in the group who also have a lot of other interests, but there are some who are interested only in computers. This probably happens in any field.
Too bad that isn't going to happen because so many people contributed to the kernel. You would have to buy out thousands of developers, each of whom probably have convictions.
In other words, it isn't happening. Linux is going to stay free.
If you look at the source of the page, you can see the following:
//---! original index.html is backed up as index.html.old !---//
(took out greater-than and less-than signs)
Looks like the crackers were just having a little bit of fun. I found it kind of amusing. If the page is gone, at any time later, im gonna mirror it at http://high.amvalue.com/~edgy/seti in case anyone misses it.
How come Sweden, which has so many guns per capita still has a low crime rate?
Crime rate really doesn't correlate to guns.
Uhh, what does the Internet have to do with OSS?
There are companies making money with Open Source and it hasn't killed Linux.
If you're gonna say something, then have some sort of backing behind it.
No, AC, everyone at MS is looking for a big open source disaster. Unfortunately, it isn't going to happen.
Gee, seems like it takes more skill to run an NT box efficiently than a Linux box.