Did someone say yet that this is just a matter of maybe amending a couple laws and educating law enforcement? Maybe. It's new. Who cares? As a practical matter, it has gotta end up being something along the lines of secured vs. unsecured resources, similar perhaps to another public space called hmmm... the web?
Anything else will fail in the courts and become a mute anyway. Note however, that I would not want to be the test case myself:-)
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What does airwaves have to do with it? This is a public space, where or what it is doesn't matter.
Why does it matter that this guy is a priest? Or does that have something to do with the "child photography" thing?
Cops make mistakes, just like, ummm...humans. They aren't lawyers.
It is fair for providers to insist that customers secure their wireless hubs or not use them.
Alright...So what _is_ the big deal?
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What is this obsession with life? Isn't it just some chemical process involving particular elements, one that humans as organisms just happen to have a particular affinity for?
This probe is merely a speck on a speck on a speck of the total matter that makes up this "untouched" moon. Even if it did kill off life it certainly isn't going to make any difference to Europa!
Suggested response: Get over it. The universe will go on pretty much as it always has even if we succeed in killing ourselves off.
The Wright Brothers worked on aircraft engine technology, developed wind tunnel techniques for modeling wing shape, and developed the aileron concept (as wing warping) that remains the primary method of controlling flight today.
They certainly were the first in these areas. The only possible debate would be if you could consider Pearse's flight "controlled" since he did not use anything like wing warping or ailerons to maintain the roll stability that is the critical to modern aircraft design and flight.
They did not as far as I know ever use a catapult mechanism. On 17 Dec 1903 three flights were made, the first being the shortest. They were all much further than anything other than self powering the machine could account for.
So where does all this other crap come from? The Wright's worked extensively with european inventors over the years. They were very insistant on maintaining secrecy and patents, but were not strangers to collaberative efforts. My guess is that they themselves had little interest in being remembered as "first".
This whole thing about Americans trying to claim credit for everything is bullshit. There has been enough of this whacko nationalism. If it makes folks happier then they could research the ethnographic background famous American inventors and steel their silly national pride for the many inventors born and often educated overseas before emigrating to the United States.
And in case no one knew it, anthropologists think the wheel, which the 1903 had none of, was invented in Egypt. Or was it China?
No actually the real distinction isn't that... although you were close.
You see there really isn't any evidence that games connect to real world behavior. In fact, the most violent games are _just_ as popular in countries that see a lot lower incidence per capita of murder and rape crimes than the state of California.
Politicians latch on to these stupid ideas because it makes them look good to their constituency, perpetuating the illusion that "little people can get big changes made". In the meanwhile people like Kenneth Lay and Bernard Ebbers get their butts kissed. Oh yeah I forgot, they _are_ going to nail Martha Stewart for stealing $40000 or being a self made woman...err...i can't remember which it was.
So what would we guess? Is it the video games kids play that cause crime or is it the fact that kids see people who are _obviously_ criminals get off scot free every day in the real life that contributes to increased crime in the U.S.?
Note that CNN.com (RIAA member Time Warner) ran the story about the 261 lawsuits in the top spot _all_ day long yesterday, despite a fairly busy news day with Dubyuh's speech and the Palestine situation.
Today, no mention of the targeted 12 year old girl on either CNN.com or ABCnews.com (RIAA member Disney).
CBSnews.com (now expanding their holdings to include Universal) is running the 12 year old girl story in the number two position today.
at how many young kids there are that don't have a clue that they are doing something "wrong"...or that the files they are downloading are automatically being shared by the client software.
And did anyone mention that these sales lost to file sharing seem a bit ridiculous?
Other factors?
poor economy...
ebay...
walmart...
cheap cd burners...
There is justification for government involvement. We're not talking about just the IT industry, the current movement to India also involves a wide range of service industry jobs.
The problem is that corporate interests that too rapidly weaken the US economy will produce hardship on a global scale and ultimately hurt everyone, for a period of time. While seeking cost savings, large coporations are or should be mindful of the possibility of hurting sales by putting too many of their customers out of work.
IMHO it would be prudent for the U.S. government to take reasonable non-tariff related action to slow but not stop the exportation of jobs. One way to accomplish this is by limiting L-1 Visas.
Globalization is an inevitable process and in the long run will benifit everyone. Keep in mind that developing economies across the globe will increase the total number of IT positions available and provide healthy markets for U.S. exporters.
But moderate and fair government intervention is a good thing, and I would say probably inevitable as well, in this case.
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Did someone say yet that this is just a matter of maybe amending a couple laws and educating law enforcement? Maybe. It's new. Who cares? As a practical matter, it has gotta end up being something along the lines of secured vs. unsecured resources, similar perhaps to another public space called hmmm... the web? Anything else will fail in the courts and become a mute anyway. Note however, that I would not want to be the test case myself :-)
Other comments:
What does airwaves have to do with it? This is a public space, where or what it is doesn't matter.
Why does it matter that this guy is a priest? Or does that have something to do with the "child photography" thing?
Cops make mistakes, just like, ummm...humans. They aren't lawyers.
It is fair for providers to insist that customers secure their wireless hubs or not use them.
What is this obsession with life? Isn't it just some chemical process involving particular elements, one that humans as organisms just happen to have a particular affinity for?
This probe is merely a speck on a speck on a speck of the total matter that makes up this "untouched" moon. Even if it did kill off life it certainly isn't going to make any difference to Europa!
Suggested response: Get over it. The universe will go on pretty much as it always has even if we succeed in killing ourselves off.
As long as it doesn't try to automatically install and run every time a redhat 9 user accesses gnu.org or debian.org, I'm not worried.
Just write a check and send it? If you feel so strongly...do it. BTW how is W doing these days? Is he having any luck with those roids?
And why does anyone care about this?
The Wright Brothers worked on aircraft engine technology, developed wind tunnel techniques for modeling wing shape, and developed the aileron concept (as wing warping) that remains the primary method of controlling flight today.
They certainly were the first in these areas. The only possible debate would be if you could consider Pearse's flight "controlled" since he did not use anything like wing warping or ailerons to maintain the roll stability that is the critical to modern aircraft design and flight.
They did not as far as I know ever use a catapult mechanism. On 17 Dec 1903 three flights were made, the first being the shortest. They were all much further than anything other than self powering the machine could account for.
So where does all this other crap come from? The Wright's worked extensively with european inventors over the years. They were very insistant on maintaining secrecy and patents, but were not strangers to collaberative efforts. My guess is that they themselves had little interest in being remembered as "first".
This whole thing about Americans trying to claim credit for everything is bullshit. There has been enough of this whacko nationalism. If it makes folks happier then they could research the ethnographic background famous American inventors and steel their silly national pride for the many inventors born and often educated overseas before emigrating to the United States.
And in case no one knew it, anthropologists think the wheel, which the 1903 had none of, was invented in Egypt. Or was it China?
No actually the real distinction isn't that... although you were close.
You see there really isn't any evidence that games connect to real world behavior. In fact, the most violent games are _just_ as popular in countries that see a lot lower incidence per capita of murder and rape crimes than the state of California.
Politicians latch on to these stupid ideas because it makes them look good to their constituency, perpetuating the illusion that "little people can get big changes made". In the meanwhile people like Kenneth Lay and Bernard Ebbers get their butts kissed. Oh yeah I forgot, they _are_ going to nail Martha Stewart for stealing $40000 or being a self made woman...err...i can't remember which it was.
So what would we guess? Is it the video games kids play that cause crime or is it the fact that kids see people who are _obviously_ criminals get off scot free every day in the real life that contributes to increased crime in the U.S.?
Note that CNN.com (RIAA member Time Warner) ran the story about the 261 lawsuits in the top spot _all_ day long yesterday, despite a fairly busy news day with Dubyuh's speech and the Palestine situation.
Today, no mention of the targeted 12 year old girl on either CNN.com or ABCnews.com (RIAA member Disney).
CBSnews.com (now expanding their holdings to include Universal) is running the 12 year old girl story in the number two position today.
Freedom of the press!! Yay!!!
at how many young kids there are that don't have a clue that they are doing something "wrong"...or that the files they are downloading are automatically being shared by the client software. And did anyone mention that these sales lost to file sharing seem a bit ridiculous? Other factors? poor economy... ebay... walmart... cheap cd burners...
There is justification for government involvement. We're not talking about just the IT industry, the current movement to India also involves a wide range of service industry jobs. The problem is that corporate interests that too rapidly weaken the US economy will produce hardship on a global scale and ultimately hurt everyone, for a period of time. While seeking cost savings, large coporations are or should be mindful of the possibility of hurting sales by putting too many of their customers out of work. IMHO it would be prudent for the U.S. government to take reasonable non-tariff related action to slow but not stop the exportation of jobs. One way to accomplish this is by limiting L-1 Visas. Globalization is an inevitable process and in the long run will benifit everyone. Keep in mind that developing economies across the globe will increase the total number of IT positions available and provide healthy markets for U.S. exporters. But moderate and fair government intervention is a good thing, and I would say probably inevitable as well, in this case.