sounds like cool new development model -
big biz wants to build a web frontend, edi exchange, etc. They announce a contest and everyone can enter and code it up whether you are EDS or just a kid. Winner gets the prize, EDS gets a t-shirt;-)
taking logic out is not just a matter of taste.
There are many benefits to do that; the one I like the most, it allows your action classes to evolve separately and be unit-tested separately from the JSPs. So you don't have to have all the servlet machinery running and your development will be faster.
"Refusing to believe" in good practices will go the long way competing with our outsourcing overlords;-)
So this is where it is going to stop - private key store.
If it is password-protected, it means I have to pass password to decrypt my private key with my email which will make it even more confusing, unsecure and most of email clients not compatible.
If it is not - it means someone will encrypt and sign my email on my behalf. In many jurisdictions the digital sig is just like sig on paper. If something else but me signs my data - it blows the whole PKI thing out of the water.
And, given that HTTP request object is present, this code probably was inside of a JSP. So not only it is not OO, it also has logic inside JSPs, instead of abstracting it out into some kind of action class.
Now the question is were those poor Indians the ones who came up with the design or it was pushed down by some American overlord?
Good analogy always helps.
How did Europian countries motivate people to sail Atlantic in 15th century?
People went: to find gold (same could be true about asteroid belt), to obtain religious freedom (lots of crazy cult folk would go now), to avoid prosecution (imagine ships full of downloaders fleeing RIAA;-) and convicts (we certainly have enough of those these days).
Seems like we can find enough motivated people.
It seems to me much better way to actually get space exploration going is to make it profitable for a business.
Is not it what a well-behaived capitalist government supposed to do? Promote good things, guard against the bad things but generally stay away?
Giving more money to large government agency that was flying shuttles mostly "because there were there" would not get us any further.
Congress needs to come up with a major incensive for businesses to go to space. Like a super Xprize. (or tax-free lifetime for any corp or individual participating in a Mars shot;-)
I was thinking it would be cool to have a publicly-supported.org website dedicated to our favorite software monopoly.
No dirt, no childish things, just the facts, discussions and humor.
Public as a whole has no idea how bad the microsoft thing is for the US and the mankind, education is in order and every little bit will help.
Don't forget that Trinity explosion in July 1945 was the test of the _plutonium_ device. The Hiroshima bomb was uranium. So the _untested_ device was used first in the battlefield conditions.
This tells us how design can be reliable even if it is not tested and crude.
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Let's not forget that during these 30 years Russians made steady progress with 8 space stations and over than 100 manned flights using cheap disposable launch vehicles. So definetely as a mankind we did not stand still.
IMHO, for high-end Oracle databases I would still use Solaris boxes. I was not able to reach the same level of confidence on not-so-advanced RedHat Server yet. But that is like 5% of the market.
I am with you - when a disk controller costs more than entire Dell server, the game is over.
I wonder what is going to happen to these technologies since Joy was (partially?) behind them.
I did a JavaSpaces project a while ago and it kicked butt.
Too bad Sun was holding JavaSpaces back and instead decided to milk the stupid EJB cow to death.
Change does not come in continuous giant leaps. Progress is dicrete in nature: you have a long shallow line during which people keep rehashing old things, improving already good things and so forth.
Then the leap follows when all the sudden the old things are looked at in a new way and some ground breaking technology appears as well.
The previous leap happened around WWII. It gave us antibiotics, united nations / true democracies, radar, air travel, space exploration, computer and just about anything our civilization consists of. All at the same time.
We are at the end of another long "calm" period and due for another leap. Proliferation of Internet and 9/11 are the global events/precursors to the next Leap.
I have Linksys BFGwhatever wireless AP / router / switch thing.
As a habit, every once in a while I go to the web sites that test your firewall for open ports - couple of the sites were aready mentioned in the discussion.
About a year ago I was surprised to see that my Linksys (that had only incoming SSH open for months) now showed Microsoft ports 13* open as well!!
I immediately flashed the sucker with Linksys firmware upgrade (which I neglected to do for long time) and reconfigured.
I have not seen this since then. Would not do attacker any good as all the boxes behind the Linksys were Linuxes.
what you are describing does not have to be backed by a database.
If the "common way" is described right (by set of XML schema files maybe?), it does not matter where the data is actually stored. Location transperancy is not just network transperancy, it is also independence from the actual storage mechanics.
What I envision is that _anything_ _anywhere_ can be described and accessed in some uniform way (mime types, etc) whether it is stored on giant corp. Oracle database or a cellphone.
It is possible because the logic involved with manipulating on the storage is the same (find, describe, map handler application to the mime type, etc) regardless of storage origin.
has not www / HTTP taught us anything?
hey this is cool, I think I 'll start a project like that.
there is a _huge_ design problem with EJB.
To me it manifests itself in the ass-first design: if I work with a framework, the typical scenario for OOP would be: framework provides interface, I implement it with my classes so they can play in the framework.
With EJBs, it is another way around: you define an interface and the container/framework creates classes and implements your interface for you!
Code generaton became so popular with J2EE for this very reason: there is _always_ a step where you need to produce a lot of redundant EJB artifacts so you might as well automate it.
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sounds like cool new development model - ;-)
big biz wants to build a web frontend, edi exchange, etc. They announce a contest and everyone can enter and code it up whether you are EDS or just a kid. Winner gets the prize, EDS gets a t-shirt
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/adviso ry.php?name=MDKSA-2003:090
taking logic out is not just a matter of taste. ;-)
There are many benefits to do that; the one I like the most, it allows your action classes to evolve separately and be unit-tested separately from the JSPs. So you don't have to have all the servlet machinery running and your development will be faster.
"Refusing to believe" in good practices will go the long way competing with our outsourcing overlords
that is ;-)
of unemployed developers
Hushmail has patent (US6154543) on any kind of scheme with server based private key management.
So this is where it is going to stop - private key store.
If it is password-protected, it means I have to pass password to decrypt my private key with my email which will make it even more confusing, unsecure and most of email clients not compatible.
If it is not - it means someone will encrypt and sign my email on my behalf. In many jurisdictions the digital sig is just like sig on paper. If something else but me signs my data - it blows the whole PKI thing out of the water.
And, given that HTTP request object is present, this code probably was inside of a JSP. So not only it is not OO, it also has logic inside JSPs, instead of abstracting it out into some kind of action class.
Now the question is were those poor Indians the ones who came up with the design or it was pushed down by some American overlord?
not declared or initialised
I wonder if one can start new religion based on this principle!
Naturally, if it was called Slow-poke Faulty, Blindly Restrictive Procesing System I would be less inclined to trust this solution.
Good analogy always helps.
How did Europian countries motivate people to sail Atlantic in 15th century?
People went: to find gold (same could be true about asteroid belt), to obtain religious freedom (lots of crazy cult folk would go now), to avoid prosecution (imagine ships full of downloaders fleeing RIAA;-) and convicts (we certainly have enough of those these days).
Seems like we can find enough motivated people.
It seems to me much better way to actually get space exploration going is to make it profitable for a business. ;-)
Is not it what a well-behaived capitalist government supposed to do? Promote good things, guard against the bad things but generally stay away?
Giving more money to large government agency that was flying shuttles mostly "because there were there" would not get us any further.
Congress needs to come up with a major incensive for businesses to go to space. Like a super Xprize. (or tax-free lifetime for any corp or individual participating in a Mars shot
I was thinking it would be cool to have a publicly-supported .org website dedicated to our favorite software monopoly.
No dirt, no childish things, just the facts, discussions and humor.
Public as a whole has no idea how bad the microsoft thing is for the US and the mankind, education is in order and every little bit will help.
This tells us how design can be reliable even if it is not tested and crude.
_that_ would be cool!
... have been for naught?"
Let's not forget that during these 30 years Russians made steady progress with 8 space stations and over than 100 manned flights using cheap disposable launch vehicles. So definetely as a mankind we did not stand still.
4 Visual Studio licenses - $8800
2 Development Server licenses - $16000
2 Production Server licenses with CALs - $120000
Knowing that your enterprise app will be developed with the best Visual Basic traditions and patterns - priceless.
IMHO, for high-end Oracle databases I would still use Solaris boxes. I was not able to reach the same level of confidence on not-so-advanced RedHat Server yet. But that is like 5% of the market.
I am with you - when a disk controller costs more than entire Dell server, the game is over.
I wonder what is going to happen to these technologies since Joy was (partially?) behind them.
I did a JavaSpaces project a while ago and it kicked butt.
Too bad Sun was holding JavaSpaces back and instead decided to milk the stupid EJB cow to death.
Change does not come in continuous giant leaps. Progress is dicrete in nature: you have a long shallow line during which people keep rehashing old things, improving already good things and so forth.
Then the leap follows when all the sudden the old things are looked at in a new way and some ground breaking technology appears as well.
The previous leap happened around WWII. It gave us antibiotics, united nations / true democracies, radar, air travel, space exploration, computer and just about anything our civilization consists of. All at the same time.
We are at the end of another long "calm" period and due for another leap. Proliferation of Internet and 9/11 are the global events/precursors to the next Leap.
I!!! for one!!! welcome!!! our new!!! tile-embedding overlords!!!
I have Linksys BFGwhatever wireless AP / router / switch thing.
As a habit, every once in a while I go to the web sites that test your firewall for open ports - couple of the sites were aready mentioned in the discussion.
About a year ago I was surprised to see that my Linksys (that had only incoming SSH open for months) now showed Microsoft ports 13* open as well!!
I immediately flashed the sucker with Linksys firmware upgrade (which I neglected to do for long time) and reconfigured.
I have not seen this since then. Would not do attacker any good as all the boxes behind the Linksys were Linuxes.
If the "common way" is described right (by set of XML schema files maybe?), it does not matter where the data is actually stored. Location transperancy is not just network transperancy, it is also independence from the actual storage mechanics.
What I envision is that _anything_ _anywhere_ can be described and accessed in some uniform way (mime types, etc) whether it is stored on giant corp. Oracle database or a cellphone.
It is possible because the logic involved with manipulating on the storage is the same (find, describe, map handler application to the mime type, etc) regardless of storage origin.
has not www / HTTP taught us anything?
hey this is cool, I think I 'll start a project like that.
I don't know what the middle steps are but the last one -
profit!!!
when I was a kid
US Government was a bad guy.
oh wait a minute..
there is a _huge_ design problem with EJB.
To me it manifests itself in the ass-first design:
if I work with a framework, the typical scenario for OOP would be: framework provides interface, I implement it with my classes so they can play in the framework.
With EJBs, it is another way around: you define an interface and the container/framework creates classes and implements your interface for you!
Code generaton became so popular with J2EE for this very reason: there is _always_ a step where you need to produce a lot of redundant EJB artifacts so you might as well automate it.