To put it simply, Microsoft does not have the cohones to stop shipping Windows. Many of the illegal activities they engaged in revolved around making software developers write Windows-only code and making hardware vendors bundle Windows with their PCs. Why else did they make OEMs sign exclusive agreements? Why else would they stop shipping Java?
If Microsoft stopped shipping Windows, even for a short while, hardware and software developers would be forced to switch operating systems. If Dell has thousands of PCs that they can't ship because of Microsoft, you can bet that they will be calling on RedHat or somebody to get them out of that mess. When AutoDesk realizes that no new computers can run AutoCad, they will resume development of their Macintosh version.
If Microsoft had to stop shipping Windows for a while, the rest of the market would have a chance to catch up. There is no way that Microsoft's buggy, insecure software could compete without the benefit of a monopoly. Microsoft knows this. They are bluffing.
It's good to know that you were able to overcome the natural Mac abstraction to tweak a little
I was able to tweak a lot* using tools that Apple provides for free to anyone who wants them. I did not overcome any "natural" tendancies of the OS anymore than removing the training wheels from a bike is overcoming its "naturally" poor turning ability. It's designed to work that way. If you can't figure out how to get the tools, you're better off not having them.
* I neglected to mention tools like ResEdit that let you edit the internal datastructure of applications and even the OS itself or the other tools used by Mac power users. Just because you don't know how to use it doesn't mean that the system is inferior.
This is from the Apple.com store. I'd imagine the price is 'competitive' by Apple standards.
Next, let's take a look at a pre-built system from local wholesale outlet
You are comparing wholesale to retail. In other words, your comparison starts off on the wrong foot.
he old Mac OS was a buggy, crashing piece of unworthy shit that never gave me a peek into the vitals of the machine
You obviously had no clue what you were doing. Apple gave away a programmer's shell (MPW) on their website. It gave you a CLI-like shell for really gettig into the machine. They also gave away MacsBug, a powerful low-level debugger that ran beneath the OS. I could at any time drop into the debugger and disassemble code, play w/ registers etc. I could even execute assembly routines, examine(and search!) memory, etc. The old Mac OS did hide the internals from CASUAL users. Power users could get deep into the machine. If you buy a car, you are not required to know how to change your head gasket. If you want to you can, but it is not required of you. With Windows and Linux, the underpinnings of the OS thust themselves upon novice users, causing them to fear the computer. Windows users associate ease of use with lack of power. That is because they are using an OS that copied the interface of the Mac w/out a firm understanding of its subtly hidden power. With a Mac, the newbies can get work done and the power users can play with the internals. All is as it should be.
Some corrections: Apple does give software away: iTunes, iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie, etc. Apple is a computer company. They sell you a complete package of hardware and software designed to work together. Because of this, they will never sell just the OS for use on non-Apple hardware. That would make as much sense as Ford designing and selling seats for Hondas.
As far as price goes, anyone who has ever bothered to calculate the REAL cost of a PC in terms of downtime, unreliability, repair costs, and inefficiency would realize that not only is Apple competatively priced, but they actually undersell the competition. My G4 from 1999 is still a fine machine that runs quickly enough for just about any application you'd care to thow at it. I see two and three year old PCs being retired all the time.
So not only will I get more use out of my Mac, but I'll have to upgrade less frequently. It will need fewer repairs, and function properly for a greater percentage of the time. There was a study that showed Mac users to be more productive than PC users, probably because of the fact that Apple has user interface guidelines that improve productivity and are designed ergonomicly. Lets not forget that when I finally do replace my G4 (probably in late '03 or early '04), my old machine will be worth more than any PC from 1999. So I not only get more work out of my Mac for a longer period of time, but it actually costs me less in maintainence and depreciation.
A company I did work for had an open relay running. I discovered this when I was unable to send e-mail to the FSF. The admin has since fixed the problem.
Messages like this help close open relays:
<gcc@gcc.gnu.org>:
In an effort to cut down on our spam intake, we block
email that is listed by certain open-relay tracking
services.Unfortunately you may have just discovered the
hard way that sometimes non-spam mail gets caught
accidentally.
In most cases you can clear this up by an upgrade to
your mail server or sometimes by getting an erroneous
listing removed.
The IP number that I'm denying mail from is
[CENSORED]
The list that you're on is ORBL. See: http://search.orbl.o rg/cgi-bin/search2.cgi
for more information about this list and why you are
on it.
Many companies just don't know that they are running an open relay. If the server is supposed to be for employees only, they brobably don't have an abuse@ box. Only by informing the users will these unintentional open relays be closed.
I'm just glad that my old SCSI Yamaha 8x4x24 actually works in OS X using the built in Disc Burner and iTunes. Burning CDs was just about the last thing justifying keeping OS 9 on my G4.
1.3 completely broke Java on Cyrix. Once you installed 1.3 you were SOL - every time a VM started, you'd get an illegal instruction error. Sun used an optional P6 instruction that Cyrix chose not to implement to keep power consumption down. Instead of checking CPUID to see if the instruction was available, they just checked the processor familly and assumed that the instructioon was there. Intel's docs clearly state that the instruction is completely optional and that apps should check a flag returned from CPUID before using it.
Sun has known about this for over a year now, but they refused to fix it. Hopefully 1.4 will actually run on by Cyrix box now.
I have a 4 year old who likes educational games and without Windows, they simply don't run.
My 6yr old sister plays educational games on her hand-me-down Performa 6200CD (from 1994). It has a 75Mhz PowerPC 603 processor, 64MB ram, a 1.2GB hd and runs System 7.5.6 (before they started calling it MacOS). She can play all the latest educational games on it w/out Windows. Hell that thing can't even run VirtualPC in DOS mode.
Oh, wait. You were probably assuming that everyone uses PCs.
What has been said about using the hard drive? In other words, if I buy a Windows PC (ugh!) and remove the hd w/out ever turning it on, can I put it in my Mac or my Linux box and play with the data I find? What if I don't even mount it in the traditional fashion and just use a disk editor?
I paid for the drive and I feel like analyzing the electromagnetic patters it contains. No I am not copying files.
If that case is too extreme, can't I sell the drive to someone who wants Windows and install a new drive so that I can install SuSE?
I'd like to see a JavaScript textbook. I teach JavaScript at the local community college and most of the books out there are just trash. One absolute requirement would be to have a table of what features are available in which browsers as well as annotations next to each use of these features in the text.
Example (not necessarily correct):
document.images["imageName"] (Netscape 3.0+, Explorer 3.0+)
If you do decide to publish one, e-mail me and I'll get the head of the department to order some for the instructors. If we like the books, we will require that our students purchase them.
One of my clients has business DSL, but instead of paying for a router from the ISP, he uses a Linksys box. When I set up his new network, the modem wouldn't connect. I changed the MAC address of the router to match the 2nd ethernet card on his old server and everything started working again. This is not difficult to circumvent.
this assumes that your outlook on yourself and life in general remains static for the rest of your life. can you really say that? i can't
No I can't say that. Since I've been keeping logs for six years now, I have looked back at my old e-mails and asked myself what in the world I was thinking at the time. All in all, my really old e-mails are as much fun as pictures from high school. I enjoy looking back and remembering how much fun I had. I find it humorous that some of my old e-mail still lists a fido net address. I wouldn't get rid of those memories -- no matter how mundane -- for the world.
In the end, all we have left are memories and friends. People change and friendships pass, but in my old age, my memories will be kept alive by photographs, old love-letters from girlfriends of long ago, e-mails, IM logs, and photographs. I would no sooner delete my logs than wipe my brain of the memories that they will evoke fifty years from now.
While this might not work for everyone, I NEVER delete an e-mail and I log all of my instant messages. My policy regarding destruction of data? If it can be used against you, don't write it. Document retention (and destruction) policies are cover-ups at best. Remember when those guys went driving around shooting people with paintballs and videotaped it? Rather than having them agree to erase the tape after X days, why make it in the first place.
I don't destroy digital records of my life. Why not? I sure as hell wouldn't be stupid enough to record anything I'm ashamed of doing.
People join user groups for more than tech support. People join user groups because they are proud to be users. They want to meet other users, because they hope to meet interesting people like themselves.
Why are there no masses of Windows fanatics? For the same reason that there are no masses of fanatical Yugo owners. There are Volkswagen clubs and such for other manufacturers.
For the most part, people use Windows because they have to or because they haven't used the alternatives. They usually don't do it by choice. They usually aren't proud of it, and they would usually rather NOT hang out with other Windows users.
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OS X works fine. I NEVER boot into OS 9 or open Classic. I've had two crashes since August 21st and my machine has been running almost constantly (I really need a UPS...). All in all, it is the most reliable computer I've ever used - including my SuSE Linux box.
I run Oroboros-X on XDarwin. I run X apps from my Linux box for the fun of it.
I've compiled lots of Linux and BSD software w/out any major hassles. The GNU Mac OS X Public Archive has ports available as source and binaries. In most cases, I just download and compile apps as if I were on my Linux box.
I have a home network with three PCs (2 Win9x, 1 Linux), two Macs (one is ancient, one is a G4 w/OS X), and an AppleTalk laser printer.
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To put it simply, Microsoft does not have the cohones to stop shipping Windows. Many of the illegal activities they engaged in revolved around making software developers write Windows-only code and making hardware vendors bundle Windows with their PCs. Why else did they make OEMs sign exclusive agreements? Why else would they stop shipping Java?
If Microsoft stopped shipping Windows, even for a short while, hardware and software developers would be forced to switch operating systems. If Dell has thousands of PCs that they can't ship because of Microsoft, you can bet that they will be calling on RedHat or somebody to get them out of that mess. When AutoDesk realizes that no new computers can run AutoCad, they will resume development of their Macintosh version.
If Microsoft had to stop shipping Windows for a while, the rest of the market would have a chance to catch up. There is no way that Microsoft's buggy, insecure software could compete without the benefit of a monopoly. Microsoft knows this. They are bluffing.
Slippery slime + BIG parking lot + car. It sounds like one hell of a ride to me. This could have high entertainment value.
I just get 404s. I guess they figured out which URLs were killing their server.
You don't have to be a programmer to compile software.
Quote:
It was some kind of cross-referenced circular
for(i) { for (j) {} } stuff. I had forgotten
javascript has no local scope!
-------------
To get locally scoped variables in JavaScript simply declare it with var.
for(i=1;i<5;i++){
for(i=18;i>-5;i--) {
}
}
is infinite.
for(var i=1;i<5;i++){
for(var i=18;i>-3;i--) {
}
}
is not.
You would have to use a FireWire device, USB is too slow. The store would have closed before he finished copying the files.
It's good to know that you were able to overcome the natural Mac abstraction to tweak a little
I was able to tweak a lot* using tools that Apple provides for free to anyone who wants them. I did not overcome any "natural" tendancies of the OS anymore than removing the training wheels from a bike is overcoming its "naturally" poor turning ability. It's designed to work that way. If you can't figure out how to get the tools, you're better off not having them.
* I neglected to mention tools like ResEdit that let you edit the internal datastructure of applications and even the OS itself or the other tools used by Mac power users. Just because you don't know how to use it doesn't mean that the system is inferior.
This is from the Apple.com store. I'd imagine the price is 'competitive' by Apple standards.
Next, let's take a look at a pre-built system from local wholesale outlet
You are comparing wholesale to retail. In other words, your comparison starts off on the wrong foot.
he old Mac OS was a buggy, crashing piece of unworthy shit that never gave me a peek into the vitals of the machine
You obviously had no clue what you were doing. Apple gave away a programmer's shell (MPW) on their website. It gave you a CLI-like shell for really gettig into the machine. They also gave away MacsBug, a powerful low-level debugger that ran beneath the OS. I could at any time drop into the debugger and disassemble code, play w/ registers etc. I could even execute assembly routines, examine(and search!) memory, etc. The old Mac OS did hide the internals from CASUAL users. Power users could get deep into the machine. If you buy a car, you are not required to know how to change your head gasket. If you want to you can, but it is not required of you. With Windows and Linux, the underpinnings of the OS thust themselves upon novice users, causing them to fear the computer. Windows users associate ease of use with lack of power. That is because they are using an OS that copied the interface of the Mac w/out a firm understanding of its subtly hidden power. With a Mac, the newbies can get work done and the power users can play with the internals. All is as it should be.
Some corrections: Apple does give software away: iTunes, iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie, etc. Apple is a computer company. They sell you a complete package of hardware and software designed to work together. Because of this, they will never sell just the OS for use on non-Apple hardware. That would make as much sense as Ford designing and selling seats for Hondas.
As far as price goes, anyone who has ever bothered to calculate the REAL cost of a PC in terms of downtime, unreliability, repair costs, and inefficiency would realize that not only is Apple competatively priced, but they actually undersell the competition. My G4 from 1999 is still a fine machine that runs quickly enough for just about any application you'd care to thow at it. I see two and three year old PCs being retired all the time.
So not only will I get more use out of my Mac, but I'll have to upgrade less frequently. It will need fewer repairs, and function properly for a greater percentage of the time. There was a study that showed Mac users to be more productive than PC users, probably because of the fact that Apple has user interface guidelines that improve productivity and are designed ergonomicly. Lets not forget that when I finally do replace my G4 (probably in late '03 or early '04), my old machine will be worth more than any PC from 1999. So I not only get more work out of my Mac for a longer period of time, but it actually costs me less in maintainence and depreciation.
Macs cost less to own than PCs.
Messages like this help close open relays:
Many companies just don't know that they are running an open relay. If the server is supposed to be for employees only, they brobably don't have an abuse@ box. Only by informing the users will these unintentional open relays be closed.
I'm just glad that my old SCSI Yamaha 8x4x24 actually works in OS X using the built in Disc Burner and iTunes. Burning CDs was just about the last thing justifying keeping OS 9 on my G4.
it's looking for planetbound aliens who are at roughly our technology leve
Actually, they would have to have been at our technology level thousands of years ago. Radio travels at the speed of light.
1.3 completely broke Java on Cyrix. Once you installed 1.3 you were SOL - every time a VM started, you'd get an illegal instruction error. Sun used an optional P6 instruction that Cyrix chose not to implement to keep power consumption down. Instead of checking CPUID to see if the instruction was available, they just checked the processor familly and assumed that the instructioon was there. Intel's docs clearly state that the instruction is completely optional and that apps should check a flag returned from CPUID before using it.
Sun has known about this for over a year now, but they refused to fix it. Hopefully 1.4 will actually run on by Cyrix box now.
I have a 4 year old who likes educational games and without Windows, they simply don't run.
My 6yr old sister plays educational games on her hand-me-down Performa 6200CD (from 1994). It has a 75Mhz PowerPC 603 processor, 64MB ram, a 1.2GB hd and runs System 7.5.6 (before they started calling it MacOS). She can play all the latest educational games on it w/out Windows. Hell that thing can't even run VirtualPC in DOS mode.
Oh, wait. You were probably assuming that everyone uses PCs.
Why is there a copy of this posted on every LOTR article? I admit it was funny in 1995, but this is getting -1 redundant.
What has been said about using the hard drive? In other words, if I buy a Windows PC (ugh!) and remove the hd w/out ever turning it on, can I put it in my Mac or my Linux box and play with the data I find? What if I don't even mount it in the traditional fashion and just use a disk editor?
I paid for the drive and I feel like analyzing the electromagnetic patters it contains. No I am not copying files.
If that case is too extreme, can't I sell the drive to someone who wants Windows and install a new drive so that I can install SuSE?
I'd like to see a JavaScript textbook. I teach JavaScript at the local community college and most of the books out there are just trash. One absolute requirement would be to have a table of what features are available in which browsers as well as annotations next to each use of these features in the text.
Example (not necessarily correct):
document.images["imageName"] (Netscape 3.0+, Explorer 3.0+)
If you do decide to publish one, e-mail me and I'll get the head of the department to order some for the instructors. If we like the books, we will require that our students purchase them.
Are you actually attributing curly quotes to M$? I suppose they invented fonts too, right? Hah!
One of my clients has business DSL, but instead of paying for a router from the ISP, he uses a Linksys box. When I set up his new network, the modem wouldn't connect. I changed the MAC address of the router to match the 2nd ethernet card on his old server and everything started working again. This is not difficult to circumvent.
this assumes that your outlook on yourself and life in general remains static for the rest of your life. can you really say that? i can't
No I can't say that. Since I've been keeping logs for six years now, I have looked back at my old e-mails and asked myself what in the world I was thinking at the time. All in all, my really old e-mails are as much fun as pictures from high school. I enjoy looking back and remembering how much fun I had. I find it humorous that some of my old e-mail still lists a fido net address. I wouldn't get rid of those memories -- no matter how mundane -- for the world.
In the end, all we have left are memories and friends. People change and friendships pass, but in my old age, my memories will be kept alive by photographs, old love-letters from girlfriends of long ago, e-mails, IM logs, and photographs. I would no sooner delete my logs than wipe my brain of the memories that they will evoke fifty years from now.
While this might not work for everyone, I NEVER delete an e-mail and I log all of my instant messages. My policy regarding destruction of data? If it can be used against you, don't write it. Document retention (and destruction) policies are cover-ups at best. Remember when those guys went driving around shooting people with paintballs and videotaped it? Rather than having them agree to erase the tape after X days, why make it in the first place. I don't destroy digital records of my life. Why not? I sure as hell wouldn't be stupid enough to record anything I'm ashamed of doing.
People join user groups for more than tech support. People join user groups because they are proud to be users. They want to meet other users, because they hope to meet interesting people like themselves.
Why are there no masses of Windows fanatics? For the same reason that there are no masses of fanatical Yugo owners. There are Volkswagen clubs and such for other manufacturers.
For the most part, people use Windows because they have to or because they haven't used the alternatives. They usually don't do it by choice. They usually aren't proud of it, and they would usually rather NOT hang out with other Windows users.
OS X works fine. I NEVER boot into OS 9 or open Classic. I've had two crashes since August 21st and my machine has been running almost constantly (I really need a UPS...). All in all, it is the most reliable computer I've ever used - including my SuSE Linux box.
Smbclient is built-in
I've never had a chance to try to use smb printer sharing. Sorry.
Smb sharing is done just like it is under Linux.
I run Oroboros-X on XDarwin. I run X apps from my Linux box for the fun of it.
I've compiled lots of Linux and BSD software w/out any major hassles. The GNU Mac OS X Public Archive has ports available as source and binaries. In most cases, I just download and compile apps as if I were on my Linux box.
I have a home network with three PCs (2 Win9x, 1 Linux), two Macs (one is ancient, one is a G4 w/OS X), and an AppleTalk laser printer.