This idea was inspired by the old Acorn BBC Micro computers, the idea being that there were about 6 graphics modes all with varying resolutions and amount of colours, but to the programmer there was only one resolution of 1280*1024 (if memory serves correctly, which it doesn't tend to).
So what are you suggesting, if chat-rooms don't work, then surely by extension, on-line democracy won't work.
I agree with you to a certain degree that forums such as this one don't work once they get mass-appeal, too many posts to make a valid conversation, too much randomness and uninformed ranting etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love Slashdot, but it's more as some sort of interactive circus than a place for serious discussion.
I'm sure that I can remember when it was much better in the old days, and kuroshin used to be good, before it got too famous.
But this doesn't bode well for online democracy, if the only way that serious discussion can happen is keeping the masses out. Not too democratic is it.
Or perhaps it's the anonymity that does it. I'm sure that most of the first posters etc. wouldn't come out with the same sort of crap in a physical meeting, or perhaps I'm overestimating them.
Until these problems, phenomenons, call them what you want, are better understood then on-line democracy isn't going to work.
So why don't you set up a neighbourhood chat room? Whay don't you go round and talk to your neighbours, see which ones have got computers, organize cheap 2nd hand ones for the ones that don't.
If there's one thing that's been learnt from the Open-Source "revolution" is that it's no good just talking about it, if you've got an idea and it's feasible to do it yourself, then what are you waiting for?
So why don't you set up a neighbourhood chat room? Whay don't you go round and talk to your neighbours, see which ones have got computers, organize cheap 2nd hand ones for the ones that don't.
If there's one thing that's been learnt from the Open-Source "revolution" is that it's no good just talking about it, if you've got an idea and it's feasible to do it yourself, then what are you waiting for?
It's funny I can't remember the last time I went to the Church of the Royal Family and worshiped there.
It's the american tourists who seem to "worship" the royal family a lot more than the natives.
You really should sell your story, to have had gay relations with one of the royals, perhaps the Weekly World news or whatever it is would take it.
Who has to pay for medical treatment and who gets it for free?
Have you got a mobile phone? What is it Nokia, Errikson? All good USAian companies.
Do you use Linux? Oh of course, we just give away our innovations, whereas you stick the customer for whatever you can get (mention no names, Microsoft).
God-dammit boy, god-bless gods-own country the good ol' US of A, where a man can get life in prison for posessing weed, but it's everyones god given right to walk around with a gun.
I wish the rest of the world was as advanced as you guys. What other country could come up with the likes of hmm, let me see, Microsoft, Jerry Springer, a president that is a worldwide figure of fun, McDonalds, the KKK etc. etc.
LOL ! That's such an insightful comment. So how long do you reckon before the Linux backlash starts? A year, 2, 3?
My thinking is a year, summer 2001, GNOME inc. in conjunction with AOL have just released E-Z Linux 1.0 (NO MORE COMMAND LINE!, NO MORE CONFUSING USER ACCOUNTS!, BE THE SUPER USER ALL OF THE TIME!)and then as you say all the true hardcore will deny ever using Linux ("Well, I keep a box around, but it's just for the games").
What's it all about eh? I've been wondering about it for a while, why is it that the more obscure the O/S the more l33t you are?
How does that make any difference to his assesment of Linux, or should you judge an operating system, not on its merits, but on the personallity of the main developer?
It mentions that quantum computing will be incredibly useful for key-cracking, web-searching etc, but does anyone know what difference this will make to the end-user?
Also, how are we going to program these baby's? Surely current techniques, languages etc. will all be insufficient?
Questions, questions.
Also, while I'm at it, This is a good place for a quantum computing primer.
As the subject line says, why the excitement over Crusoe?
Admittedly it should lead to longer battery life, but it's "just" an x86 (yes, I know about the code morphing, but for all intents and purposes it's an x86).
As far as I can see, this is just some sort of cult-of-celebrity thing, ohh look, Linus Torsvalds, whatever it is must be good.
There's already an MP4 in existence, as far as I remember it's more of a MIDI on steriods type of file format. It contains a description of how the sound source is meant to sound along with the notes.
And what about the 4004 and the 8008? Intel produced these as well, before all of the ones on your list.
And the 80186 was used quite a bit, there were Research Machines (UK Education Computer) that had it, and quite a lot of ol' hard disk controllers used to use it.
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This idea was inspired by the old Acorn BBC Micro computers, the idea being that there were about 6 graphics modes all with varying resolutions and amount of colours, but to the programmer there was only one resolution of 1280*1024 (if memory serves correctly, which it doesn't tend to).
An idea way in front of its time.
So what are you suggesting, if chat-rooms don't work, then surely by extension, on-line democracy won't work.
I agree with you to a certain degree that forums such as this one don't work once they get mass-appeal, too many posts to make a valid conversation, too much randomness and uninformed ranting etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love Slashdot, but it's more as some sort of interactive circus than a place for serious discussion.
I'm sure that I can remember when it was much better in the old days, and kuroshin used to be good, before it got too famous.
But this doesn't bode well for online democracy, if the only way that serious discussion can happen is keeping the masses out. Not too democratic is it.
Or perhaps it's the anonymity that does it. I'm sure that most of the first posters etc. wouldn't come out with the same sort of crap in a physical meeting, or perhaps I'm overestimating them.
Until these problems, phenomenons, call them what you want, are better understood then on-line democracy isn't going to work.
So why don't you set up a neighbourhood chat room? Whay don't you go round and talk to your neighbours, see which ones have got computers, organize cheap 2nd hand ones for the ones that don't.
If there's one thing that's been learnt from the Open-Source "revolution" is that it's no good just talking about it, if you've got an idea and it's feasible to do it yourself, then what are you waiting for?
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So why don't you set up a neighbourhood chat room? Whay don't you go round and talk to your neighbours, see which ones have got computers, organize cheap 2nd hand ones for the ones that don't.
If there's one thing that's been learnt from the Open-Source "revolution" is that it's no good just talking about it, if you've got an idea and it's feasible to do it yourself, then what are you waiting for?
I'm in good company.
It's one of the best things about Slashdot these days, a good USA/UK slanging match.
Thankyou very much sir, I shall look forward to that beer. (I haven't got anything against USA either, it's all just a bit of a laugh, innit !)
Where you been Street Lawyer? Haven't seen you around for ages.
Good argument mate, you've completely talked me round. Go USA !
There's plenty of Burger Kings in USA, so some of your countrymen must like that.
What can I say, there's idiots everywhere regardless of country.
It's funny I can't remember the last time I went to the Church of the Royal Family and worshiped there.
It's the american tourists who seem to "worship" the royal family a lot more than the natives.
You really should sell your story, to have had gay relations with one of the royals, perhaps the Weekly World news or whatever it is would take it.
Who has to pay for medical treatment and who gets it for free?
Have you got a mobile phone? What is it Nokia, Errikson? All good USAian companies.
Do you use Linux? Oh of course, we just give away our innovations, whereas you stick the customer for whatever you can get (mention no names, Microsoft).
Sorry to shatter your illusions, but Linux wasn't invented in the USA, therefore what are you doing here if you don't want non-USA stuff?
I don't know if anyones ever explained to you what the first two W's in WWW stand for?
Or what nationality Tim Berners-Lee is? Or what country Charles Babbage or Alan Turing came from, or where electricity was discovered?
No didn't think so America boy. You stick your head back up your arse, it's probably a lot safer for you, nothing to challenge your way of thinking.
As long as I don't have to eat McDonalds!
Such as? And, excuse me for asking, but if you're a white american, where the hell do you think your ancestors came from?
Oh say can you see.......
God-dammit boy, god-bless gods-own country the good ol' US of A, where a man can get life in prison for posessing weed, but it's everyones god given right to walk around with a gun.
I wish the rest of the world was as advanced as you guys. What other country could come up with the likes of hmm, let me see, Microsoft, Jerry Springer, a president that is a worldwide figure of fun, McDonalds, the KKK etc. etc.
to expect a yank to have anything like a realistic view of anywhere else in the world.
LOL ! That's such an insightful comment. So how long do you reckon before the Linux backlash starts? A year, 2, 3?
My thinking is a year, summer 2001, GNOME inc. in conjunction with AOL have just released E-Z Linux 1.0 (NO MORE COMMAND LINE!, NO MORE CONFUSING USER ACCOUNTS!, BE THE SUPER USER ALL OF THE TIME!)and then as you say all the true hardcore will deny ever using Linux ("Well, I keep a box around, but it's just for the games").
What's it all about eh? I've been wondering about it for a while, why is it that the more obscure the O/S the more l33t you are?
Oh well...
No way is VMS cryptic compared to *NIX
Examples;
SHOW SYSTEM - ps
DELETE - rm
SET DEFAULT - cd
and it goes on and on.
In my opinion VMS is much more powerfull and easy to use than UNIX, but it's just a shame it's such a closed OS.
WTF does it matter who he's met?
How does that make any difference to his assesment of Linux, or should you judge an operating system, not on its merits, but on the personallity of the main developer?
Also this mythical "new amiga" seems to be the same thing, platform independant binaries. I wonder which one will come out top?
It mentions that quantum computing will be incredibly useful for key-cracking, web-searching etc, but does anyone know what difference this will make to the end-user?
Also, how are we going to program these baby's? Surely current techniques, languages etc. will all be insufficient?
Questions, questions.
Also, while I'm at it, This is a good place for a quantum computing primer.
As the subject line says, why the excitement over Crusoe?
Admittedly it should lead to longer battery life, but it's "just" an x86 (yes, I know about the code morphing, but for all intents and purposes it's an x86).
As far as I can see, this is just some sort of cult-of-celebrity thing, ohh look, Linus Torsvalds, whatever it is must be good.
Why do you getting so excited about security exploits? To re-inforce your stereotypes about a certain group of people?
To take your elitist attitude to it's logical conclusion Linus should have kept the kernal to himself because "the general public can barely hack it".
Just curious...
Why can't they exist together? As long as you've got a player I don't see why you should bother converting your MP3's.
There's already an MP4 in existence, as far as I remember it's more of a MIDI on steriods type of file format. It contains a description of how the sound source is meant to sound along with the notes.
This is probably a good place to start looking.
And what about the 4004 and the 8008? Intel produced these as well, before all of the ones on your list.
And the 80186 was used quite a bit, there were Research Machines (UK Education Computer) that had it, and quite a lot of ol' hard disk controllers used to use it.