At the very least, he violated a couple of Truth-in Advertising Laws. He might have the right to rebrand it, but he didn't have the right to lie about the features it contained.
And before anyone says something about the machines being insecure, I was talking to the election commisioner for the county. She made sure they were as secure as they could be made. I'm not gonna worry about it.
In other words, you were talking to an authority figure and you were so impressed that someone of her authority would be talking to little old you -- you began to trust everything she said.
And not only do you want us to take her word for it, I guess you also want us to take your word for it, because as we all know -- people on Slashdot never lie and never spout their mouth off.
"*Did you know that grocery chains make far more money selling customer data than they do selling groceries?*"
"no.
are you high or just wacko? did you even stop for a second to think what you were saying?"
The original poster seems to be talking of profits, not revenues.
The sale of customer information feels probably like pure profit to supermarkets. The marginal cost of acquiring and centralizing this customer information is probably very low if you take into account that most supermarkets are using cheap bar-coded plastic cards as unique identifiers.
The marginal cost of smart shopping carts however, is probably nothing to sneeze at. Naive venture capitalists are probably footing the bill for now. And those venture capitalists are probably thinking of the day when the shopping carts will be able to do the check out transactions themselves and Safeway will be able to fire half of its staff as a result.
By the way, did the debit transaction show up on your bank statement? If they had arrested you and the transaction had showed up on your bank statement, there would have been hell to pay.
"*sigh* I'm talking about viruses and malware, not remote exploits - don't worry though, I'm used to people mixing the two up. "
He wasn't criticizing what you said, he was criticizing your reasoning behind what you said. If what you said is true for "viruses" and "malware", why wouldn't it be also true for "remote exploits"?
It sounds to me like you came up with an overgeneralization and now you're trying to rationalize it in face of contradictory evidence. *sight* You can be as impatient with us as you want and you can patronize us all you want, but your backtracking rationalization about the technical proficiency of users doesn't hold much water. For me, the only reason I first installed Apache was because I had no clue about how I could install Microsoft's Personal Web Server. I suspect it's the same for most users. Apache simply worked out of the box, that's it magic and that's partly why it has the biggest marketshare.
"And if I find the mother-f***er that gave the entire company my cell phone #, they are dead!!"
If you're serious about this, change your cell phone number, and get an unlisted/caller id blocked number. Pay the necessary charge, or tell the phone company you're getting harrassing phone calls. Either way, you can take control of this situation and you have noone else to blame if you chose not to.
Furthermore, there is basically no risk of outsourcing garbagemen to India.
Some can still be laid off. In my town, the garbage trucks are using robotic arms to pick up the trash and put it in the bin. This move seems to have cut the manual labor required in half.
I like the hard statistics they give, they sound very precise and credible.
"About 95 percent of music retail businesses in the country have failed in the last five years."
"Since the launch of these sites, domestic CD sales have nose-dived by nearly 50 percent."
And they come from a credible unbiased source.
"It was two years ago when Seoul music store owner Jang Kyung-hee"
Personally, I'd like to see percentages of CD sales broken down by speciality music stores, big box stores (whatever is their equivalent of Walmart), local online shopping malls, and foreign shopping malls (such as iTunes). There are many factors that could be affecting these stats.
Ever seen a movie on regular tv with no adverts? its heaven!
You call that regular tv! Here in the US, we can get some decent cable channels for the same price you're paying for your "regular tv". If you think about it, there is no difference between regular cable in the US and regular tv in the UK, except for the fact that cable isn't being forced down our throats here in the US.
By the way, have you ever seen a good feature movie without having it interrupted with an hour long newscast? Or have ever had a dinner without being forced to watch surgery on BBC1 and a different kind of surgery on BBC2? Watching a movie without long interruptions is heaven I tell you.
And don't even get me started on those bird obsessions BBC has. I am sick and tired of those bird watching around the clock tv reality shows.
"Now, as to who would want an AOL branded IE, I know I wouldn't, but I imagine they will introduce some value-add to make it interesting to the typical non-technical user."
Value-added? This non-technical AOL user doesn't seem to see it that way. Personally, I can't quite figure out what she's talking about, but the way she's describing it -- this new feature looks more like a nuisance than anything else. And besides, there is no need to add value when your customers are already locked into your service.
That is, this current law might not be about making commercial-skipping illegal, butabout making it legal to skip offensive material in movies and the like.
Damn right, if you won't let me see breast on Superball, you better let me skip those monestat commercials.
Well, you have to pay for public tv in other countries too. So what?! You prefer crappy commercials every three minutes? Producing tv costs money and the bbc produces great stuff. If you watch HBO in the US (another great producer) you have to pay too.
In the US, PBS only gets a small fraction of its budget funded by the government and that small source of funding might completely dry up very soon.
Also on the topic of HBO, if you have a TV, noone forces to pay for HBO, it is a choice you're given.
Yeah, but the other channels, the ones that get ten times the viewership, don't get any of that money, and BBC does get that money. That's why I call it the BBC license fee.
The BBC is a coercive organization which does philanthropic ventures. In that sense, it's no better than the mafia.
£121 a year is £2.32 a week Thats nothing. I pay £20 a month for a hundred cable channels full of crap
Yeah, but at least you have a choice to pay for that crap. BBC doesn't give you that choice. You have a TV, you must pay the BBC license fee. And if you don't pay the TV license fee, then you must be lying because everyone has a TV.
Compared to many other broadcoasters the BBC has a long and excellent record of producing great programms AND embracing the web/technology.
Certainly a good 'partner' to support... compared to companies like Real...
For the non-UK people may be, but £121 a year (or roughly $206 American dollars per year) That's a lot of money for a lot of people. When my mother staid in London, she didn't have a TV, but she still had some BBC hoodlum banging on her door and try to force his way in to make her pay the fee.
Why mandate anything? The banks that have insecure systems will bear the cost of their insecure systems. And the merchants that accept insecure paiments with delivery addresses to South Korea will also bear some of that cost. There is no need to panic.
Intereting that you use L.A. as an example of how a high tech area looks like. The first time I went to L.A. I was surprised how low tech the area looked like to me...
Have you ever been to a mountain where there is no wind and no sound and it's just very peaceful there. Now just imagine hearing the same silence over their capital, because there is not even one car or one sound you can hear. I was watching a documentary on this and that's basicely how the guy described it, startling silence.
And how can we be screwed? Pray tell. Do those hackers have magical powers or something? Do you think they can take out the internet permanently with clever VB viruses? Or DOS attacks? Do you think that those hackers can social engineer their way into getting US government/corporate passwords/manuals?
I doubt it. Any attack they make will only make the internet stronger and more resilient. Besides, it's the virus of the mind N Korea should be worrying about. Just you wait until those hackers get infected with Slashdot and Searchlores. Those hackers are probably the sons and daughters of the elite in their government. This elite will regret exposing their kids to so much foreign information.
Can someone give an example of terrorists striking the phone system? Anywhere, ever?
(Need I remind people that terrorism isn't new or unique to the US.. )
In Iraq and in Palestine, the US and the Israelies indiscriminately cut off the phone, the water supply, and the electricity of entire cities as "softening measures".
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Why invest in a newspaper ad when we could reach our audience through cheap popup ads?
At the very least, he violated a couple of Truth-in Advertising Laws. He might have the right to rebrand it, but he didn't have the right to lie about the features it contained.
In other words, you were talking to an authority figure and you were so impressed that someone of her authority would be talking to little old you -- you began to trust everything she said.
And not only do you want us to take her word for it, I guess you also want us to take your word for it, because as we all know -- people on Slashdot never lie and never spout their mouth off.
"no. are you high or just wacko? did you even stop for a second to think what you were saying?"
The original poster seems to be talking of profits, not revenues.
The sale of customer information feels probably like pure profit to supermarkets. The marginal cost of acquiring and centralizing this customer information is probably very low if you take into account that most supermarkets are using cheap bar-coded plastic cards as unique identifiers.
The marginal cost of smart shopping carts however, is probably nothing to sneeze at. Naive venture capitalists are probably footing the bill for now. And those venture capitalists are probably thinking of the day when the shopping carts will be able to do the check out transactions themselves and Safeway will be able to fire half of its staff as a result.
By the way, did the debit transaction show up on your bank statement? If they had arrested you and the transaction had showed up on your bank statement, there would have been hell to pay.
He wasn't criticizing what you said, he was criticizing your reasoning behind what you said. If what you said is true for "viruses" and "malware", why wouldn't it be also true for "remote exploits"?
It sounds to me like you came up with an overgeneralization and now you're trying to rationalize it in face of contradictory evidence. *sight* You can be as impatient with us as you want and you can patronize us all you want, but your backtracking rationalization about the technical proficiency of users doesn't hold much water. For me, the only reason I first installed Apache was because I had no clue about how I could install Microsoft's Personal Web Server. I suspect it's the same for most users. Apache simply worked out of the box, that's it magic and that's partly why it has the biggest marketshare.
Well, I think you're aiming too high. I'd prefer that people have a basic grasp of spelling before they'd try to write about "prec[e]dents".
but don't worry, here at Slashdot we'll love you anyway.
I take it logic puzzles were never your strong point.
If you're serious about this, change your cell phone number, and get an unlisted/caller id blocked number. Pay the necessary charge, or tell the phone company you're getting harrassing phone calls. Either way, you can take control of this situation and you have noone else to blame if you chose not to.
Some can still be laid off. In my town, the garbage trucks are using robotic arms to pick up the trash and put it in the bin. This move seems to have cut the manual labor required in half.
"About 95 percent of music retail businesses in the country have failed in the last five years."
"Since the launch of these sites, domestic CD sales have nose-dived by nearly 50 percent."
And they come from a credible unbiased source.
"It was two years ago when Seoul music store owner Jang Kyung-hee"
Personally, I'd like to see percentages of CD sales broken down by speciality music stores, big box stores (whatever is their equivalent of Walmart), local online shopping malls, and foreign shopping malls (such as iTunes). There are many factors that could be affecting these stats.
Then, technically they don't have to tax the viewers who watch the other channels. Right?
You call that regular tv! Here in the US, we can get some decent cable channels for the same price you're paying for your "regular tv". If you think about it, there is no difference between regular cable in the US and regular tv in the UK, except for the fact that cable isn't being forced down our throats here in the US.
By the way, have you ever seen a good feature movie without having it interrupted with an hour long newscast? Or have ever had a dinner without being forced to watch surgery on BBC1 and a different kind of surgery on BBC2? Watching a movie without long interruptions is heaven I tell you.
And don't even get me started on those bird obsessions BBC has. I am sick and tired of those bird watching around the clock tv reality shows.
Value-added? This non-technical AOL user doesn't seem to see it that way. Personally, I can't quite figure out what she's talking about, but the way she's describing it -- this new feature looks more like a nuisance than anything else. And besides, there is no need to add value when your customers are already locked into your service.
Damn right, if you won't let me see breast on Superball, you better let me skip those monestat commercials.
In the US, PBS only gets a small fraction of its budget funded by the government and that small source of funding might completely dry up very soon.
Also on the topic of HBO, if you have a TV, noone forces to pay for HBO, it is a choice you're given.
The BBC is a coercive organization which does philanthropic ventures. In that sense, it's no better than the mafia.
Yeah, but at least you have a choice to pay for that crap. BBC doesn't give you that choice. You have a TV, you must pay the BBC license fee. And if you don't pay the TV license fee, then you must be lying because everyone has a TV.
For the non-UK people may be, but £121 a year (or roughly $206 American dollars per year) That's a lot of money for a lot of people. When my mother staid in London, she didn't have a TV, but she still had some BBC hoodlum banging on her door and try to force his way in to make her pay the fee.
Why mandate anything? The banks that have insecure systems will bear the cost of their insecure systems. And the merchants that accept insecure paiments with delivery addresses to South Korea will also bear some of that cost. There is no need to panic.
Have you ever been to a mountain where there is no wind and no sound and it's just very peaceful there. Now just imagine hearing the same silence over their capital, because there is not even one car or one sound you can hear. I was watching a documentary on this and that's basicely how the guy described it, startling silence.
And how can we be screwed? Pray tell. Do those hackers have magical powers or something? Do you think they can take out the internet permanently with clever VB viruses? Or DOS attacks? Do you think that those hackers can social engineer their way into getting US government/corporate passwords/manuals?
I doubt it. Any attack they make will only make the internet stronger and more resilient. Besides, it's the virus of the mind N Korea should be worrying about. Just you wait until those hackers get infected with Slashdot and Searchlores. Those hackers are probably the sons and daughters of the elite in their government. This elite will regret exposing their kids to so much foreign information.
In Iraq and in Palestine, the US and the Israelies indiscriminately cut off the phone, the water supply, and the electricity of entire cities as "softening measures".
Milton Friedman has a similar saying, although I don't remember the exact wording of it.