Nobody is telling me, as a consumer, what I can/can't do. If I want 64 oz of soda, I can still buy 64 oz of soda, just in smaller containers. If I want to drink 64 oz of soda, I can drink it just like I always could.
The only people being restricted here are the vendors. No sky-is-falling slippery slope arguments about big brother will change that fact. Vendors have been using psychological tricks to get people to buy larger and larger drinks and spend more and more money for ages now; it's well past time that we put the clamps on them.
And thus the poor who are less likely to be able to come back for a refill (like construction workers on a break)
If they were that poor, they could pack a 2 liter bottle that cost $0.99 to work.
Also, construction workers are poor? Out in my neck of the woods, they actually make pretty decent wages and usually some sort of benefits compensation. I think the 'poor' people you're wanting are more like employees of fast food restaurants and big box retail stores that get shit (usually part time) wages and *no* benefits (because they're part time).
It's already been pointed out that if it's OK for government to tell you what not to eat, they can also tell you what to eat. Don't like broccoli? Tough-- you're required to eat it twice a week.
This is bullshit. Cite one source of any government, ever, anywhere, that required its citizens to eat any amount of broccoli, or any other vegetable.
The rest of your post was also offtopic bullshit, but this just stunk the worst.
You force socialized medicine down our throats and then when the costs get out of hand
The costs were already out of hand. Seriously, do some basic fucking research.
Also, this "shoving down our throats" bullshit whining has got to stop. Legislation gets passed all the time that not everybody agrees with; somehow, the only people that ever complain about having stuff "shoved down their throats" are anti-government retards.
This is just amazing to me. They are literally saying that educating people about global warming will increase their skepticism, and therefore actually transmitting sound scientific information would be bad.
That's not how I read that statement at all, but then I'm not coming at it from the perspective that they're spewing propaganda.
I read it as an understanding of the fact that the facts don't actually matter, because people will continue to believe what they already believe.
Then maybe you should pick a different career where you CAN make money. If there are too many musicians, just as there are too many hamburger & fry flippers, than the income will plummet and be crappy. So choose a higher-paying income, rather than being a musician or McDonalds employee.
You know what? Fuck you and your comparison of people making music and flipping burgers. I'm not a musician, though I have played in the past, but to become decent at an instrument takes a lot of hard work and practice. As a society, we should be encouraging people to get good at stuff that others enjoy.
You know what else? Fuck you and your implication that someone who flips burgers for a living doesn't deserve to have a decent living. It's a job, it needs done, and the person doing it has to pay their bills. What magical threshold of "worthiness" does someone have to reach in your eyes before they get to live the dream of making rent and having a little left over?
For the record, I do pretty well, and have never worked in food service or derived income from music. I don't automatically dismiss people who do those things as being somehow below me with the shit-rolls-downhill that you apparently believe in. It bugs the hell out of me when I see very talented people who aren't able to do what they are good at because it doesn't pay enough, so instead they take your advice and take the job that pays the bills, and the world is poorer for it.
Democrats attack their own when they do stupid shit like this. Republicans attack their own when they do something as unbelievable as suggesting that, hey, maybe gay marriage won't destroy the nation, or that maybe taxing the people who have all the money isn't socialism.
And are you suggesting that the two situations are exactly the same? Surely you're not that dense.
I was bullied.
Ahh yes, the "I survived, therefore I'm strong and fuck everybody else" attitude. That seems to be pretty prevalent on Slashdot. I think it mostly comes from people who actually never really did get over that bullying.
Anytime someone gets in the car and unnecessarily risks other people's lives (and property -- gotta remember property, because safety features have made risk of death much lower) they're an asshole. If that unnecessary risk is something very easily prevented like eating or cuddling with your lap dog or texting or driving while impaired, the person engaging in that risk deserves punishment. Fuck them.
If you want to be an apologist for these people, fuck you too. When I'm driving, I don't answer the phone and I don't read or respond to texts. I'm not perfect, and I realize this, so I do what I can to pay attention to contribute to a safer driving experience not only for myself but also for everyone else.
No, not anybody you don't agree with. High UID accounts with very few posts that mostly happen to be first posts and a fairly predictable set of talking points.
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Nobody is telling me, as a consumer, what I can/can't do. If I want 64 oz of soda, I can still buy 64 oz of soda, just in smaller containers. If I want to drink 64 oz of soda, I can drink it just like I always could.
The only people being restricted here are the vendors. No sky-is-falling slippery slope arguments about big brother will change that fact. Vendors have been using psychological tricks to get people to buy larger and larger drinks and spend more and more money for ages now; it's well past time that we put the clamps on them.
--Jeremy
And thus the poor who are less likely to be able to come back for a refill (like construction workers on a break)
If they were that poor, they could pack a 2 liter bottle that cost $0.99 to work.
Also, construction workers are poor? Out in my neck of the woods, they actually make pretty decent wages and usually some sort of benefits compensation. I think the 'poor' people you're wanting are more like employees of fast food restaurants and big box retail stores that get shit (usually part time) wages and *no* benefits (because they're part time).
--Jeremy
A slippery slope argument is not, in fact, a valid argument.
--Jeremy
It's already been pointed out that if it's OK for government to tell you what not to eat, they can also tell you what to eat. Don't like broccoli? Tough-- you're required to eat it twice a week.
This is bullshit. Cite one source of any government, ever, anywhere, that required its citizens to eat any amount of broccoli, or any other vegetable.
The rest of your post was also offtopic bullshit, but this just stunk the worst.
--Jeremy
You force socialized medicine down our throats and then when the costs get out of hand
The costs were already out of hand. Seriously, do some basic fucking research.
Also, this "shoving down our throats" bullshit whining has got to stop. Legislation gets passed all the time that not everybody agrees with; somehow, the only people that ever complain about having stuff "shoved down their throats" are anti-government retards.
--Jeremy
I'm willing to give that hypothesis a try. It's been quite a while since we've had a chance to.
--Jeremy
I'll crack a Koran as soon as you crack a Bible. Also, see if you can pass one of the many Bible/Koran quizzes like this one
You can find passages from both that are equally silly, equally bullshit, and equally abhorrent.
--Jeremy
Religious folks (like myself) will appeal to a higher standard
Yeah, the one that tells you to kill anyone who works on the sabbath and not wear clothing made of two different fibers? Some standard.
Also, I think you're confusing "higher" with "imaginary."
--Jeremy
Modern day China is not even remotely close to communism.
Apologies for having to spell it out for you.
--Jeremy
climate is changing as it always has
This is a disingenuous argument and doesn't address concerns with AGW *at all*.
--Jeremy
This is just amazing to me. They are literally saying that educating people about global warming will increase their skepticism, and therefore actually transmitting sound scientific information would be bad.
That's not how I read that statement at all, but then I'm not coming at it from the perspective that they're spewing propaganda.
I read it as an understanding of the fact that the facts don't actually matter, because people will continue to believe what they already believe.
--Jeremy
God you're an idiot.
Yeah. When you make up strawmen to attack, it's easy to make someone else look like an idiot, when in fact you're the one lying through your teeth.
In short: your argument is a strawman and nobody has ever advocated that.
Good call on the "killing all the plants would kill us" bit though. Very informative. Yeah.
--Jeremy
Sorry, you don't get to just define words however you see fit, and then use them to distort the debate in your favor.
--Jeremy
And water isn't poisonous either ... unless you drink too much of it.
--Jeremy
In my book people who pull race cards or "think of the children" cards are leftists.
"If I don't like them, then I can lump them all in one category and summarily dismiss them." Makes it tough to take anything you say seriously.
--Jeremy
That, or be accused of putting together a coherent thought. She makes Palin sound like Dawkins in comparison.
--Jeremy
In other words, you never really had much in the way of computing needs, and now a smartphone is enough to suit those needs.
--Jeremy
40k. Before taxes. Split between the whole band.
Yeah, I think they're going to need day jobs.
--Jeremy
Then maybe you should pick a different career where you CAN make money. If there are too many musicians, just as there are too many hamburger & fry flippers, than the income will plummet and be crappy. So choose a higher-paying income, rather than being a musician or McDonalds employee.
You know what? Fuck you and your comparison of people making music and flipping burgers. I'm not a musician, though I have played in the past, but to become decent at an instrument takes a lot of hard work and practice. As a society, we should be encouraging people to get good at stuff that others enjoy.
You know what else? Fuck you and your implication that someone who flips burgers for a living doesn't deserve to have a decent living. It's a job, it needs done, and the person doing it has to pay their bills. What magical threshold of "worthiness" does someone have to reach in your eyes before they get to live the dream of making rent and having a little left over?
For the record, I do pretty well, and have never worked in food service or derived income from music. I don't automatically dismiss people who do those things as being somehow below me with the shit-rolls-downhill that you apparently believe in. It bugs the hell out of me when I see very talented people who aren't able to do what they are good at because it doesn't pay enough, so instead they take your advice and take the job that pays the bills, and the world is poorer for it.
--Jeremy
Pakistan. What do I win?
--Jeremy
Democrats attack their own when they do stupid shit like this. Republicans attack their own when they do something as unbelievable as suggesting that, hey, maybe gay marriage won't destroy the nation, or that maybe taxing the people who have all the money isn't socialism.
--Jeremy
And are you suggesting that the two situations are exactly the same? Surely you're not that dense.
I was bullied.
Ahh yes, the "I survived, therefore I'm strong and fuck everybody else" attitude. That seems to be pretty prevalent on Slashdot. I think it mostly comes from people who actually never really did get over that bullying.
--Jeremy
Anytime someone gets in the car and unnecessarily risks other people's lives (and property -- gotta remember property, because safety features have made risk of death much lower) they're an asshole. If that unnecessary risk is something very easily prevented like eating or cuddling with your lap dog or texting or driving while impaired, the person engaging in that risk deserves punishment. Fuck them.
If you want to be an apologist for these people, fuck you too. When I'm driving, I don't answer the phone and I don't read or respond to texts. I'm not perfect, and I realize this, so I do what I can to pay attention to contribute to a safer driving experience not only for myself but also for everyone else.
--Jeremy
No, not anybody you don't agree with. High UID accounts with very few posts that mostly happen to be first posts and a fairly predictable set of talking points.
Just like you.
--Jeremy
Probably, yeah. Another sockpuppet account to score some easy karma and mod points.
--Jeremy