And that doesn't even factor the number of moves without progress, whether or not each side has castled, and the entire list of those previous moves without progress, all of which are technically unique positions (due to the moves without progress, castling, and repitition rules).
Chess algorithms generally do an optimised version of a minimax tree search. It's easy to distribute different parts of the tree to different clients. The problem is that the number of calculations vs. the number of moves ahead you are searching is exponential. So if you have 10,000 processors, you can only search say 2-5 extra levels deep.
With out some way to compensate folks who create intellectual property-be they recording artists, writers, professors or management consultants-the incentives to produce quality content disappears.
Without some way to compensate folks who fight forest fires, arrest criminals, educate the public, keep our environment clean, build highways, explore outer space, prosecute criminals, adjudicate criminal lawsuits, create legislation, heal the poor, and house orphans, the incentives to do those things disappear as well. Just because science and the useful arts are an economic good doesn't mean that copyright is the only solution.
Who makes money in software anyway? Microsoft? I'm sure if Linux was nearly as good as Windows Hewlett Packard and Dell would be happy to pay the programmers who work on it.
I was pointing out that visual studio dosen't exist on your platform
My platform is Windows 2000.
If you check mozilla.org I believe win32 uses the gcc compiler
I'm not sure what compiler it uses, but it requires Visual C++, that's the point.
VS costs like 50$ or so on student discount, have some college kid get it for you.
That's of questionable legality, and if I were going to do that, I'd just go all out and make a copy from someone else. If I'm not going to distribute the binaries, no one's going to find out anyway. In any case, I don't think it's worth $50 or breaking the law just to help AOL fix bugs in its software. The fact that I have to pay $50 and/or break the law just to compile the source of mozilla on my operating system pretty much defeats the purpose of it being GPLed for that operating system, as far as I'm concerned.
Visual Studio Professional is $1,079. So we both were wrong. Still way too much to pay to be able to compile mozilla on the operating system I use. Frankly I'm surprised this loophole in the GPL hasn't been closed.
Unlicensed NLOS with a range up to 20 miles. Only supports 14Kb/sec or so, but that's all CDPD supports, and it costs $30/month. Now why hasn't anyone come out with cards running on MURS frequencies? I sure would buy one.
And buying wireless LAN equipment to connect the server to my laptop costs less than the quiet case in the article.
Yeah but then you have to use your laptop screen to view everything. Maybe you have a killer laptop, but I never could deal with a laptop screen for more than a short period of time.
Reason, you can never, ever trust slashdot or similar system for MD5 sums of software.
Nor can you trust http. Nor can you trust ftp. Technically you can't even trust https, or scp, or any method of transfer. Maybe if you build the machine yourself from the ground up, transister by transister, then you can trust it. Nope, even then you have to trust that the transister itself wasn't designed improperly. Gee, I guess you can't trust anything, can you?
There is no way to justify posting MD5 sums out of the official site. Never-ever do it.
The only reason I mentioned the +5 was the fact that many people saw the post increased the probability that someone would have noticed if I had posted the wrong MD5. I wouldn't download an executable from gnutella and run it unless there was an MD5. The fact that someone posted the MD5 on slashdot would possibly convince me. In any case, I didn't realize that AOL had already posted the MD5 on their ftp site. I would have just pointed people to that, if I did.
Cool. I didn't know about that page. I would have just posted a link to it instead of the md5 if I did. Why they don't put it on an https site, I don't know (of course, maybe they do).
Securitywise, all that md5 sum means is that no one changed it after you posted it on gnutella. For all I know, you trojanized it yourself, or you downloaded it from somewhere else pre-trojaned.
If that were the case it's quite likely that someone would have noticed and pointed that out. I downloaded my copy from mozilla.com, so it's highly unlikely that it's pre-trojaned.
So basically for an md5 sum to be any good, the md5 sum has to come from a reputable, secure source, such as mozilla.org, not some random person on slashdot.
Personally I'd settle for a relatively long-time slashdot user who uses his real name and was modded to 5. In the unlikely case that someone spent a year posting on slashdot and building up a reputation just so s/he could plant a trojan into the 1.0 release of mozilla, and that you happened to download the exact same copy from gnutella that s/he had distributed, it would eventually be discovered, and that person could easily be traced by IP address and reported to the FBI.
So while I agree with you that my MD5 sum wasn't military grade security, I think it does present some additional security. Even more if others respond to confirm the MD5. And I hope others put mozilla into their gnutella sharing directory.
Ultimately, the problem should be solved by AOL putting the MD5 on https://www.mozilla.org/. But I checked, and if they have, I couldn't find it.
I guess the idea is that encryption software would help the citizens of these countries organize revolts against their oppressive governments... Err, wait a second...
The benevolent dictatorship model has proven to be by far the most efficient model for open source programming (Linux kernel).
And the great advantage of open source software is that the threat of forking forces the dictatorship to be benevolent. It's actually amazing how well the threat of forking is high enough to ensure that huge mistakes are not made, while still giving the dictator the freedom to make small decisions in the way s/he feels best. In other words, the cost of forking is high enough to maintain the dictatorship, as long as the dictator remains benevolent.
It's nearly impossible to build software without someone being in charge. In traditional software development, that's your manager, or the CTO, or the CEO, etc. In linux, there's linus to guide the direction of the software the way he wants it to go.
I bet you'll see that even with the major projects with 4 people working on it, there is a definitive one that stands out as the lead developer. Testing and bug fixing can be worked on by many people independently, but when it comes to developing the actual software, there needs to be a single person to make the ultimate large scale decisions.
But note one of the axioms of Special Relativity is that the laws of Physics are the same in all inertial (non-accelerating) frames of reference. Hence by testing the theory of Relativity we are testing this very axiom.
No... That axiom can't be tested. It is equally valid to say that the speed of light is not constant, it's just that things shrink and slow down when they move at certain speeds with respect to the ether. No experiment has yet been done to prove that axiom.
Perhaps you're saying that this test somehow does that? The linked article was extremely light, so I'd certainly like to see just how this experiment proposes to do that.
I have to believe that this test is somewhat different from the previous ones, not just a more accurate version. What I'd like to see is a test which pits Relativity against Ether Gauge Theory or some other similar theory which assumes the existence of an ether and has not yet been disproven.
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And that doesn't even factor the number of moves without progress, whether or not each side has castled, and the entire list of those previous moves without progress, all of which are technically unique positions (due to the moves without progress, castling, and repitition rules).
My guess would be that perfect chess played by both sides would result in a draw.
Personally I think the very first move is a zugzwang, and black wins in perfect chess.
Ok, ok, I don't actually think that, but I'll give you $10,000 if you prove me wrong.
Chess algorithms generally do an optimised version of a minimax tree search. It's easy to distribute different parts of the tree to different clients. The problem is that the number of calculations vs. the number of moves ahead you are searching is exponential. So if you have 10,000 processors, you can only search say 2-5 extra levels deep.
With out some way to compensate folks who create intellectual property-be they recording artists, writers, professors or management consultants-the incentives to produce quality content disappears.
Without some way to compensate folks who fight forest fires, arrest criminals, educate the public, keep our environment clean, build highways, explore outer space, prosecute criminals, adjudicate criminal lawsuits, create legislation, heal the poor, and house orphans, the incentives to do those things disappear as well. Just because science and the useful arts are an economic good doesn't mean that copyright is the only solution.
Who makes money in software anyway? Microsoft? I'm sure if Linux was nearly as good as Windows Hewlett Packard and Dell would be happy to pay the programmers who work on it.
Remind me now how this is better than Windows?
The distro CD is free.
I didn't realize you were referring to a bug. Works for me in 6.0...
First of all, Michael is right..."blog" has become extremely overused, much like "P2P."
And much like "troll". Just because I post something stupid, that doesn't mean I was "trolling for newbies".
I was pointing out that visual studio dosen't exist on your platform
My platform is Windows 2000.
If you check mozilla.org I believe win32 uses the gcc compiler
I'm not sure what compiler it uses, but it requires Visual C++, that's the point.
VS costs like 50$ or so on student discount, have some college kid get it for you.
That's of questionable legality, and if I were going to do that, I'd just go all out and make a copy from someone else. If I'm not going to distribute the binaries, no one's going to find out anyway. In any case, I don't think it's worth $50 or breaking the law just to help AOL fix bugs in its software. The fact that I have to pay $50 and/or break the law just to compile the source of mozilla on my operating system pretty much defeats the purpose of it being GPLed for that operating system, as far as I'm concerned.
Calling slashdot a blog, or calling it journalism.
Visual Studio Professional is $1,079. So we both were wrong. Still way too much to pay to be able to compile mozilla on the operating system I use. Frankly I'm surprised this loophole in the GPL hasn't been closed.
Unlicensed NLOS with a range up to 20 miles. Only supports 14Kb/sec or so, but that's all CDPD supports, and it costs $30/month. Now why hasn't anyone come out with cards running on MURS frequencies? I sure would buy one.
This is open source, dude, so fix the bugs yourself.
Let me compile it without paying $3000 for Visual Studio.
Actually, they are probably musicians, it's the sound recording industry that will probably be the main market for this box...
Huh? Why would the sound recording industry put loud computers in the same room as the microphones?
And buying wireless LAN equipment to connect the server to my laptop costs less than the quiet case in the article.
Yeah but then you have to use your laptop screen to view everything. Maybe you have a killer laptop, but I never could deal with a laptop screen for more than a short period of time.
Reason, you can never, ever trust slashdot or similar system for MD5 sums of software.
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Nor can you trust http. Nor can you trust ftp. Technically you can't even trust https, or scp, or any method of transfer. Maybe if you build the machine yourself from the ground up, transister by transister, then you can trust it. Nope, even then you have to trust that the transister itself wasn't designed improperly. Gee, I guess you can't trust anything, can you?
There is no way to justify posting MD5 sums out of the official site. Never-ever do it.
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The only reason I mentioned the +5 was the fact that many people saw the post increased the probability that someone would have noticed if I had posted the wrong MD5. I wouldn't download an executable from gnutella and run it unless there was an MD5. The fact that someone posted the MD5 on slashdot would possibly convince me. In any case, I didn't realize that AOL had already posted the MD5 on their ftp site. I would have just pointed people to that, if I did.
Cool. I didn't know about that page. I would have just posted a link to it instead of the md5 if I did. Why they don't put it on an https site, I don't know (of course, maybe they do).
Securitywise, all that md5 sum means is that no one changed it after you posted it on gnutella. For all I know, you trojanized it yourself, or you downloaded it from somewhere else pre-trojaned.
If that were the case it's quite likely that someone would have noticed and pointed that out. I downloaded my copy from mozilla.com, so it's highly unlikely that it's pre-trojaned.
So basically for an md5 sum to be any good, the md5 sum has to come from a reputable, secure source, such as mozilla.org, not some random person on slashdot.
Personally I'd settle for a relatively long-time slashdot user who uses his real name and was modded to 5. In the unlikely case that someone spent a year posting on slashdot and building up a reputation just so s/he could plant a trojan into the 1.0 release of mozilla, and that you happened to download the exact same copy from gnutella that s/he had distributed, it would eventually be discovered, and that person could easily be traced by IP address and reported to the FBI.
So while I agree with you that my MD5 sum wasn't military grade security, I think it does present some additional security. Even more if others respond to confirm the MD5. And I hope others put mozilla into their gnutella sharing directory.
Ultimately, the problem should be solved by AOL putting the MD5 on https://www.mozilla.org/. But I checked, and if they have, I couldn't find it.
I guess the idea is that encryption software would help the citizens of these countries organize revolts against their oppressive governments... Err, wait a second...
Or use gnutella. The MD5 is 684461f4bef2888271cb05bd3d80af28 for mozilla-win32-1.0-installer.exe.
The benevolent dictatorship model has proven to be by far the most efficient model for open source programming (Linux kernel).
And the great advantage of open source software is that the threat of forking forces the dictatorship to be benevolent. It's actually amazing how well the threat of forking is high enough to ensure that huge mistakes are not made, while still giving the dictator the freedom to make small decisions in the way s/he feels best. In other words, the cost of forking is high enough to maintain the dictatorship, as long as the dictator remains benevolent.
It's nearly impossible to build software without someone being in charge. In traditional software development, that's your manager, or the CTO, or the CEO, etc. In linux, there's linus to guide the direction of the software the way he wants it to go.
I bet you'll see that even with the major projects with 4 people working on it, there is a definitive one that stands out as the lead developer. Testing and bug fixing can be worked on by many people independently, but when it comes to developing the actual software, there needs to be a single person to make the ultimate large scale decisions.
But note one of the axioms of Special Relativity is that the laws of Physics are the same in all inertial (non-accelerating) frames of reference. Hence by testing the theory of Relativity we are testing this very axiom.
No... That axiom can't be tested. It is equally valid to say that the speed of light is not constant, it's just that things shrink and slow down when they move at certain speeds with respect to the ether. No experiment has yet been done to prove that axiom.
Perhaps you're saying that this test somehow does that? The linked article was extremely light, so I'd certainly like to see just how this experiment proposes to do that.
I have to believe that this test is somewhat different from the previous ones, not just a more accurate version. What I'd like to see is a test which pits Relativity against Ether Gauge Theory or some other similar theory which assumes the existence of an ether and has not yet been disproven.