I am happy that this 9.x release occurred for the people who need it, but the 10.x version will install, out of the box, with ZFS root straight out of the box.
Either way, you don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict that your favorite OS + ZFS is a big step forward.
If you took all the insecurities of every other OS out there from 1995 and combined them, they could touch all the problems and insecurities DOS/windows had with a 10 foot pole.
in Solaris, if you use/usr/bin/clear instead of/usr/bin/tput clear , be aware of what is inside of the/usr/bin/clear command.
% cat/usr/bin/clear
#!/usr/bin/sh
# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
# All Rights Reserved
# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
# actual or intended publication of such source code.
#ident "@(#)clear.sh 1.8 96/10/14 SMI"/* SVr4.0 1.3 */
# Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Microsoft Corporation
# All Rights Reserved
# This Module contains Proprietary Information of Microsoft
# Corporation and should be treated as Confidential.
# clear the screen with terminfo.
# if an argument is given, print the clear string for that tty type
I am not surprised at linux's lower cost, I am surprised Solaris was so high. Other than Sun's high licensing costs I'm at a loss on why Solaris would be so much higher.
Had the report not come from IBM, I would have been suprised also. Solaris has come free of charge from Sun in one form or another since ver 2.6 (current version 10). And currently, it is not only free but also open source - http://www.opensolaris.org/
Solaris, afaik, is currently the most popular and widely deployed commercial unix implementation, with IBM's AIX coming in somewhere behind that. Other popular (YMMV) commercial unix's would include SGI Irix, HP-UX and SCO
Yeah, well, the Windows version is not as much of an improvement. And although acrobat reader is a slow loader, the REAL chore is when you make the mistake of clicking on a PDF on a web-page and its trying to display through your browser--ug. Just agonizing. Painfully slow. I almost always just kill the process, go back, and save the file to my desktop.
Sorry to hear that you are having problems with Acrobat reader 7 on windows. Why I haven't used any ms products myself in over 10 years, I had formed the opinion from reading other post that Acrobat Reader had improved in the windows environment also. Obviously not for everyone.
I know in the unix/unix clone environment there are several other alternative products for working with pdf's. And there is certainly no shortage in the Mac OS X environment.
Are there not any non-Adobe Acrobat pdf utilities in the windows environment?
Loading the PDF viewer is SLOW. I am constantly reminded that I need to 'update' something. In fact, the viewer on two of my computers is stuck in an update loop- where it thinks I need to update something that has already been updated.
Once a large PDF is loaded, it is still SLOW to scroll pages. And when I hit a page with some pictures, I need to wait a few seconds for them to load.
If your pdf viewer is slow, I would guess that you are still using Acrobat reader version 5.x or 6.x. Acrobat reader 7.x is much faster, at least for me either on Solaris or Mac OS X.
Also, the pdf file format is an open one. If you don't like Adobe's pdf reader or creator, there are others available, both commercial or FOSS.
You know, there's a RealPlayer for Linux. It's not that bad either.
Of course, I use MPlayer + mplayerplug-in.
Problem solved, unless you're not on x86.ni-gul
Why should that matter whether your on an x86 system or not. Real Player (and MPlayer) both work well for me on my Sparc powered Solaris 10 system and my PowerPC MacOS X system.
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Or have a service person drive out to the machine?
I believe you really meant to say "field engineer".
Pun intended.
I know I asked this before, but, Dell has an R&D?
Back in the day Dell had their own Sys V Unix.
http://virtuallyfun.supergloba...
Now.... not so much.
Plan B.
Just go and buy a used Cisco or Juniper router off of eBay or Craigslist.
The Sys V rc directories are still in place and functional in current Solaris 10 & 11 versions, plus all of the various Solaris based distro's.
At least I'm safe with all my servers on C Shell. Thank you Bill Joy!
I have long since given up the use of passwd's for DSA keys in ssh.
I had always considered Bob Beck's post the definitive guide concerning ssh'ing as root, but it seems a number of users feel otherwise.
http://archives.neohapsis.com/...
+1
I am happy that this 9.x release occurred for the people who need it, but the 10.x version will install, out of the box, with ZFS root straight out of the box.
Either way, you don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict that your favorite OS + ZFS is a big step forward.
Maybe I am just missing your /humor tag, but I thought the ZFS on linux thing had been taken care of years ago.
http://zfsonlinux.org/
Judge Jackson, where are you when we need you most?
Are you insane?
If you took all the insecurities of every other OS out there from 1995 and combined them, they could touch all the problems and insecurities DOS/windows had with a 10 foot pole.
That is because Novell had been focusing on the new GOSIP protocol stack instead of TCP/IP v4.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOSIP
and ZFS is available to Mac OS X systems as an add on. Both opensource, and as of this week, a commercial version is available.
There is very little reason to be running a system with out ZFS, unless you are running AIX, HP-UX or IRIX.
regardless of the time, it beats loosing all of your data.
and XFS worked great with IRIX. WTF happed to it with lunux???
switch??? I still use elm.
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones, and the oil age wont end because we ran out of oil
as if that had ever been a problem??
Sun has stated many times that the money headed to SCO was to open source Solaris. Unfortunately, there timing was off from a PR perspective.
% cat
#!/usr/bin/sh
# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 AT&T
# All Rights Reserved
# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
# actual or intended publication of such source code.
#ident "@(#)clear.sh 1.8 96/10/14 SMI"
# Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Microsoft Corporation
# All Rights Reserved
# This Module contains Proprietary Information of Microsoft
# Corporation and should be treated as Confidential.
# clear the screen with terminfo.
# if an argument is given, print the clear string for that tty type
exit
Richard's right about the BMP files. TIFF is the way to go.
I am not surprised at linux's lower cost, I am surprised Solaris was so high. Other than Sun's high licensing costs I'm at a loss on why Solaris would be so much higher.
Had the report not come from IBM, I would have been suprised also. Solaris has come free of charge from Sun in one form or another since ver 2.6 (current version 10). And currently, it is not only free but also open source - http://www.opensolaris.org/
Solaris, afaik, is currently the most popular and widely deployed commercial unix implementation, with IBM's AIX coming in somewhere behind that. Other popular (YMMV) commercial unix's would include SGI Irix, HP-UX and SCO
Yeah, well, the Windows version is not as much of an improvement. And although acrobat reader is a slow loader, the REAL chore is when you make the mistake of clicking on a PDF on a web-page and its trying to display through your browser--ug. Just agonizing. Painfully slow. I almost always just kill the process, go back, and save the file to my desktop.
Sorry to hear that you are having problems with Acrobat reader 7 on windows. Why I haven't used any ms products myself in over 10 years, I had formed the opinion from reading other post that Acrobat Reader had improved in the windows environment also. Obviously not for everyone.
I know in the unix/unix clone environment there are several other alternative products for working with pdf's. And there is certainly no shortage in the Mac OS X environment.
Are there not any non-Adobe Acrobat pdf utilities in the windows environment?
Loading the PDF viewer is SLOW. I am constantly reminded that I need to 'update' something. In fact, the viewer on two of my computers is stuck in an update loop- where it thinks I need to update something that has already been updated.
Once a large PDF is loaded, it is still SLOW to scroll pages. And when I hit a page with some pictures, I need to wait a few seconds for them to load.
If your pdf viewer is slow, I would guess that you are still using Acrobat reader version 5.x or 6.x. Acrobat reader 7.x is much faster, at least for me either on Solaris or Mac OS X.
Also, the pdf file format is an open one. If you don't like Adobe's pdf reader or creator, there are others available, both commercial or FOSS.
I did RTFA, but if it tells what unix they are headed back too, I missed it.
Does anyone know what unix that they are headed back to???
You know, there's a RealPlayer for Linux. It's not that bad either.
Of course, I use MPlayer + mplayerplug-in.
Problem solved, unless you're not on x86.ni-gul
Why should that matter whether your on an x86 system or not. Real Player (and MPlayer) both work well for me on my Sparc powered Solaris 10 system and my PowerPC MacOS X system.
x86 free since '93......