Yeah, the reaction of everyone laughing at it forced them to look for a way to back out of it. They're calling it a hoax after gettig a little free market research!
Exactly correct: "(unless they participate directly in those actions)"
the law suit alleges that they did take a direct role when the company took control of the business and the legal liability:
"Hummer Winblad invested about $13 million in Napster and took control of its business and legal liabilities, with Barry assuming an interim CEO role. "
they're no longer a simple investor, the parent company is running the show.
"the end of the stock market" --don't blow things out of proportion. If IBM created a company and wholly owned it for the sole purpose of committing copyright infringement, you bet someone can come after them. A subsidiary shouldn't be used an excuse to commit a crime
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I've only got 640k, I was told that's all I'd ever need.
I think this whole anti-RDRAM thing comes from when it was first introduced
arguably RDRAM is a supior technology but when it was introduced in the chipsets of the late Pentium III era it gave no benefit over SDRAM systems. This was because the FSB of those pentiums ran at 133 mhz. Despite all the benchmarks and analysis done by review sites, Intel + RAMBUS ran around yelling about how their 800 mhz RDRAM blows the doors off the competition and that it will enhance EVERY aspect of computing and bascially convinced people that it was worth $1000 for 256 mb (YES remember it was that expensive back then)
Now that the P4 has fast FSB speeds, the benefits of RDRAM are starting to shine through but most enthusiests have a very bad attitude towards RDRAM, not because of its technology, but because of a distrust of a company that
a) Has no problem in outright lying about its products capabilities in a real world setting
b) Seems to have very little respect for standards and committing fraud to get pantented ICs into industry standards
c) has no qualms about using these ill-gotten standards to enforce these patents and try to charge royalties well after the technology has been adopted.
Personally, I never want to buy a RAMBUS product and I'd like it very much if they didn't see $.01 of my money. I don't support companies that operate like this and I certainly don't support companies that outright lie about their product's capabilities (I'm also done bying intel after the whole RDRAM thing is better marketing blitz).
so while it may be better technology, RAMBUS has certainly dug itself a hole in the PR department.
A-Men If parents don't vaccinate their children, the state takes them out of school. If a dog consistently attacks people, the authorities put it down. If someone commits three felonies, they are put away for life. This is because the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the one.
In this case who is deciding when the needs of the many are greater? the state. The parent down the street doesn't decide when your child is not vaccinated enough to attend school, concerned citizens do not decide when to put sparky to sleep, and if someone commits three felonies a statute passed by the state legislature dictates that you get a life sentence. In all three of these cases there is due process and an agency or institution that oversees this process
Allowing you to shutdown processes on another's computer without an overseeing body is vigilate justice. Then what constitutes a "malicious process"
If someone pings me 100 times and I don't like it, can I go in and stop their ping process?
There are plenty of solutions that network admins can employ. If you have enough time to kill a process on a rogue machine, then you have enough time to firewall their IP, secure your own machine, or contact their ISP.
This country is not about vigilante justice and neither should the internet.
If a state like Wisconsin loses $300 million or $400 million or $500 million a year in revenue because of untaxed catalog sales, someone, someplace in the Badger State is going to pick up the difference.
Who? You and I; through either increased income or property taxes.
Yes, but in that sense, "you and I" are also the people who are buying and "saving" the money. In the end its a wash. The average person who spends money online will save X and will then pay Y in increased taxes. I've got a feeling that X and Y are pretty close.
Really? I mean how many aspects of our behavior do we have to change based on the social context. As a college student swearing is rather 2nd hand nature but if I do it to a professor or boss, saying that I do it so much that it isn't my fault won't cut it. I see internet speak everywhere these days and quite frankly it drives me nuts (even online) when people ignore the difference between to,too, and two as well as there, their and they're. I'm not perfect in my grammar and spelling but I think that if something is important enough to say, then it should be compsed as such. I get kind of offended when poeple IM me but don't take the time to spell out complete words and such. Oh well I'll stop being a language troll and get back to the books;)
Yeah I agree with you on that. The university I work for had its bandwidth sucked up (I can't remember what we've got but its a pretty big pipe for the size of our university). Something like 70% of it was taken up by the dorms. They had to section the whole thing off and cut the bandwidth, and they're disciplining the top abusers to try to make the network manageable.
The problem is, no matter how much bandwidth they give them, it just gets sucked up and ruins the internet experience for everyone else.
Yeah random PC hardware fans can do "meta-benchmarking" and decide if the benchmarks are accurately portrayed.... now if they could only do something like that to the mods here....
I can't believe that speeds for IDE hard drives have remained at 7,200 rpm and I've heard no word of faster revisions. It'll be nice actually use the bandwidth benefits for a change.
definately get a desktop -- and take extra parts, at least then you can swap out a dead vid card or something... with the laptops if anything goes, the whole thing is dead.
Right now the US can't sign a treaty to ban land mines because of our involvement in Korea and other countries. The Korean penninsula is so small that an invading army could take south korea in a matter of days. The only thing short of a fully equipped battle ready army that can slow this kind of surprise attack are the land mines that currently occupy the area in the DMZ between the north and south.
Its not pretty but in some cases the only thing we can do is use landmines.
I think that's a really unfair statement, especially when you consider the fact that it isn't true. Any country will plant land mines when they find it necessary and lots of countries have been trying to find a way to get rid of them when they're past their use.
If you as a canadian are going to take the high road in this matter you should be criticizing your own country for not making innovations in land mine removal technology. Instead you're sitting there and smugly taking a swipe at the US.
You can't sit as a spectator for this sort of thing and dish out moral judgements and expect to be taken seriously.... but then again you're Canadian so I guess you really shouldn't expect to be taken seriously
Its going to be tough dealing with that piracy, but in terms of corporate software, there is a ton of money to be made there.
The other problem is dealing with nationalism. Many countries are starting to push their own homegrown platforms because they don't want their computing industry tethered to America.
In any case, Microsoft is the poster child of "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again" This is only the start... it will be interesting to watch.
Rambus has been pulling some rather blatant violations of anti trust laws especially with the whole JDEC thing... doesn't their upper management see that? It just seems so silly of them to pull this kind of stuff when they could continue their revenue growth based on the strength of legitimate business practices. Ethics issues aside, doesn't it make more sense to play right rather than take the risk of losing your Intellectual property and losing your money in court? They took a significant risk and lost with their legal strategy starting to crack.
Is it a sign of a greater ethics issue in the industry or is it high level management who can't figure out how to solve a problem other than to pursue a costly and risky legal battle? I think its both, and investors should be wary about putting any more money into this company.
It looks like Toshiba basically copied Apple's iPod.
I don't think so at all. Other than the shape of the player (which is a rectangle) it looks very little like the ipod. No silver polish and new features such as removable hard drives. If the form factor is what you're complaing about, you could say that apple ripped off the rio which is also rectangular;)I wouldn't worry though, nobody can provide the level of integration and sophistocation in their products like Apple.
yeah good point except that microsoft has been convicted of running an *illegal* monopoly, so while that is a integral part of the matter, its already been resolved in the eyes of the law and there isn't too much you can do about it.
yeah, I resent the fact that you pick on Iowa just like that. It just so happens that we have one of the best public education systems in the nation which means a lot of computers!
We're not technologically backward like the sterotype says... now if you'll excuse me I have to milk bessy and bail some hay...
If it turns off consumers, they'll have to remove it or lower the price. The people selling these things want to make money, which means they want to give people whatever it is that they want to pay the most for. They want to maximize profits and if they change their product and no one wants to buy it, they'll change it back in a heartbeat. That's the beauty of the market. That's why it can't get too far afield. If they get every consumer mad at them, they'll be in big trouble.
This is the most compelling part of the article. People tend to get over hyped about what the record companies are going to do, but the economics of the matter prevent them from pissing off everyone. Don't worry everything is going to be ok, you just won't have your free music anymore!
One of our great advantages over other foreign countries/terrorist groups is our technological innovation. I can't believe that we'd devote research dollars the explicitly promote that technological advantage towards homeland security.
Just because homeland security is the hot topic doesn't mean we should cut off our means of supporting ourselves in the future.
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I got one that won't, I just finished pasting my boss's IP in there and slipping under his door.
;) I like my job security prospects!
Yeah, the reaction of everyone laughing at it forced them to look for a way to back out of it. They're calling it a hoax after gettig a little free market research!
Exactly correct: "(unless they participate directly in those actions)"
the law suit alleges that they did take a direct role when the company took control of the business and the legal liability:
"Hummer Winblad invested about $13 million in Napster and took control of its business and legal liabilities, with Barry assuming an interim CEO role. "
they're no longer a simple investor, the parent company is running the show.
"the end of the stock market" --don't blow things out of proportion. If IBM created a company and wholly owned it for the sole purpose of committing copyright infringement, you bet someone can come after them. A subsidiary shouldn't be used an excuse to commit a crime
I've only got 640k, I was told that's all I'd ever need.
Right but the legalese will appear in a similar case to this when someone reverse engineers the chip and b00m we have a DMCA case.
This is good though, because its another rediculous invocation of the DMCA that will eventually lead to the court challenge that brings it down.
I think this whole anti-RDRAM thing comes from when it was first introduced
arguably RDRAM is a supior technology but when it was introduced in the chipsets of the late Pentium III era it gave no benefit over SDRAM systems. This was because the FSB of those pentiums ran at 133 mhz. Despite all the benchmarks and analysis done by review sites, Intel + RAMBUS ran around yelling about how their 800 mhz RDRAM blows the doors off the competition and that it will enhance EVERY aspect of computing and bascially convinced people that it was worth $1000 for 256 mb (YES remember it was that expensive back then)
Now that the P4 has fast FSB speeds, the benefits of RDRAM are starting to shine through but most enthusiests have a very bad attitude towards RDRAM, not because of its technology, but because of a distrust of a company that
a) Has no problem in outright lying about its products capabilities in a real world setting
b) Seems to have very little respect for standards and committing fraud to get pantented ICs into industry standards
c) has no qualms about using these ill-gotten standards to enforce these patents and try to charge royalties well after the technology has been adopted.
Personally, I never want to buy a RAMBUS product and I'd like it very much if they didn't see $.01 of my money. I don't support companies that operate like this and I certainly don't support companies that outright lie about their product's capabilities (I'm also done bying intel after the whole RDRAM thing is better marketing blitz).
so while it may be better technology, RAMBUS has certainly dug itself a hole in the PR department.
A-Men
If parents don't vaccinate their children, the state takes them out of school. If a dog consistently attacks people, the authorities put it down. If someone commits three felonies, they are put away for life. This is because the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the one.
In this case who is deciding when the needs of the many are greater? the state. The parent down the street doesn't decide when your child is not vaccinated enough to attend school, concerned citizens do not decide when to put sparky to sleep, and if someone commits three felonies a statute passed by the state legislature dictates that you get a life sentence. In all three of these cases there is due process and an agency or institution that oversees this process
Allowing you to shutdown processes on another's computer without an overseeing body is vigilate justice. Then what constitutes a "malicious process"
If someone pings me 100 times and I don't like it, can I go in and stop their ping process?
There are plenty of solutions that network admins can employ. If you have enough time to kill a process on a rogue machine, then you have enough time to firewall their IP, secure your own machine, or contact their ISP.
This country is not about vigilante justice and neither should the internet.
If a state like Wisconsin loses $300 million or $400 million or $500 million a year in revenue because of untaxed catalog sales, someone, someplace in the Badger State is going to pick up the difference. Who? You and I; through either increased income or property taxes.
Yes, but in that sense, "you and I" are also the people who are buying and "saving" the money. In the end its a wash. The average person who spends money online will save X and will then pay Y in increased taxes. I've got a feeling that X and Y are pretty close.
Really? I mean how many aspects of our behavior do we have to change based on the social context. As a college student swearing is rather 2nd hand nature but if I do it to a professor or boss, saying that I do it so much that it isn't my fault won't cut it. I see internet speak everywhere these days and quite frankly it drives me nuts (even online) when people ignore the difference between to,too, and two as well as there, their and they're. I'm not perfect in my grammar and spelling but I think that if something is important enough to say, then it should be compsed as such. I get kind of offended when poeple IM me but don't take the time to spell out complete words and such. Oh well I'll stop being a language troll and get back to the books ;)
Yeah I agree with you on that. The university I work for had its bandwidth sucked up (I can't remember what we've got but its a pretty big pipe for the size of our university). Something like 70% of it was taken up by the dorms. They had to section the whole thing off and cut the bandwidth, and they're disciplining the top abusers to try to make the network manageable.
The problem is, no matter how much bandwidth they give them, it just gets sucked up and ruins the internet experience for everyone else.
Yeah random PC hardware fans can do "meta-benchmarking" and decide if the benchmarks are accurately portrayed.... now if they could only do something like that to the mods here....
A-Men!
I can't believe that speeds for IDE hard drives have remained at 7,200 rpm and I've heard no word of faster revisions. It'll be nice actually use the bandwidth benefits for a change.
definately get a desktop -- and take extra parts, at least then you can swap out a dead vid card or something... with the laptops if anything goes, the whole thing is dead.
look at the other other point.
Right now the US can't sign a treaty to ban land mines because of our involvement in Korea and other countries. The Korean penninsula is so small that an invading army could take south korea in a matter of days. The only thing short of a fully equipped battle ready army that can slow this kind of surprise attack are the land mines that currently occupy the area in the DMZ between the north and south.
Its not pretty but in some cases the only thing we can do is use landmines.
as most land-mines were planted by them
I think that's a really unfair statement, especially when you consider the fact that it isn't true. Any country will plant land mines when they find it necessary and lots of countries have been trying to find a way to get rid of them when they're past their use.
If you as a canadian are going to take the high road in this matter you should be criticizing your own country for not making innovations in land mine removal technology. Instead you're sitting there and smugly taking a swipe at the US.
You can't sit as a spectator for this sort of thing and dish out moral judgements and expect to be taken seriously.... but then again you're Canadian so I guess you really shouldn't expect to be taken seriously
Its going to be tough dealing with that piracy, but in terms of corporate software, there is a ton of money to be made there.
The other problem is dealing with nationalism. Many countries are starting to push their own homegrown platforms because they don't want their computing industry tethered to America.
In any case, Microsoft is the poster child of "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again" This is only the start... it will be interesting to watch.
Just think what the pr0n industry would do with this! They're always early adopters - wireless pr0n!
Rambus has been pulling some rather blatant violations of anti trust laws especially with the whole JDEC thing... doesn't their upper management see that? It just seems so silly of them to pull this kind of stuff when they could continue their revenue growth based on the strength of legitimate business practices. Ethics issues aside, doesn't it make more sense to play right rather than take the risk of losing your Intellectual property and losing your money in court? They took a significant risk and lost with their legal strategy starting to crack.
Is it a sign of a greater ethics issue in the industry or is it high level management who can't figure out how to solve a problem other than to pursue a costly and risky legal battle? I think its both, and investors should be wary about putting any more money into this company.
It looks like Toshiba basically copied Apple's iPod.
;)I wouldn't worry though, nobody can provide the level of integration and sophistocation in their products like Apple.
I don't think so at all. Other than the shape of the player (which is a rectangle) it looks very little like the ipod. No silver polish and new features such as removable hard drives. If the form factor is what you're complaing about, you could say that apple ripped off the rio which is also rectangular
yeah good point except that microsoft has been convicted of running an *illegal* monopoly, so while that is a integral part of the matter, its already been resolved in the eyes of the law and there isn't too much you can do about it.
For all you Iowa bashers... remember one of the earliest computers was built at Iowa State University
Anyway, I'm glad something is being done about the Windows tax that's been put on OEM computers all these years. Make 'em pay!
yeah, I resent the fact that you pick on Iowa just like that. It just so happens that we have one of the best public education systems in the nation which means a lot of computers!
We're not technologically backward like the sterotype says... now if you'll excuse me I have to milk bessy and bail some hay...
If it turns off consumers, they'll have to remove it or lower the price. The people selling these things want to make money, which means they want to give people whatever it is that they want to pay the most for. They want to maximize profits and if they change their product and no one wants to buy it, they'll change it back in a heartbeat. That's the beauty of the market. That's why it can't get too far afield. If they get every consumer mad at them, they'll be in big trouble.
This is the most compelling part of the article. People tend to get over hyped about what the record companies are going to do, but the economics of the matter prevent them from pissing off everyone. Don't worry everything is going to be ok, you just won't have your free music anymore!
One of our great advantages over other foreign countries/terrorist groups is our technological innovation. I can't believe that we'd devote research dollars the explicitly promote that technological advantage towards homeland security. Just because homeland security is the hot topic doesn't mean we should cut off our means of supporting ourselves in the future.