In industry, of course, the free market will eventually stop such corporate fantasies
Every time i hear the term 'free market' I see someone who inherited their money. There is no free market, and you should stop hoping it's going to come in and save the day for you.
Look, you can't just wish away industrial espionage and credit card fraud. Maybe it's not a huge issue over at Little Caesars, but it's been a pressing concern for every company I've ever worked for.
I was just dashing off a quick note, not trying to be all-inclusive.
Been thinking about this a bit, and it really is an all-or-nothing issue. If I'm responsible for all traffic on my network then I'm just as open to Terra/kiddie-porn stuff coming in over the web as I am to filesharing issues.
I guess I'd like to see some boilerplate agreement I could put up on a website & then have my SSID be the URL (tinyurl.com ?). Anyone know if that'd Cover My Ass?
Good thing the world doesn't have any real problems these jerks could be applying themselves to.
Start playing whack-a-mole with usenet and we get alt.veggies.leek.die.die.die or similar.
Wonder how long it takes before sysadmins at large ISPs realize that it's less time consuming to filter the traffic to and from the RIAA than it is to filter usenet. Occam's Razor and all that.
Interesting... my ISP just forwarded a C&D email from the MPAA aimed at my IP address. I'll be curious (an understatement!) to see if they are successful in getting my snail mail address out of my ISP after the Verison decision.
I/had/ a wireless router running to provide access to anyone in range (it'll be back up after I get around to blocking off everything but 80 and 25, i guess), but I'm assuming that the whole "common carrier" exemption to network traffic only applies to corporations large enough to buy their own congressman.
So... is this the end of offering open access to your neighborhood? I have no interest in monitoring traffic over my network, but it looks like the buck stops at the little guy (as usual).
I think this thread has expanded much too far past it's original scope; an admittedly weak analogy. Hopefully my point came across even if you don't agree with it.
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Yeah, the whole site takes great pains to describe the THRUST POWER that 5 gears combined with a HUGE v8 engine provides your LENGTHY vehicle as you TOOL through country lanes. Or words to that effect.
Or maybe here. Here's a snip: "The first Computer-Aided Design programs used simple algorithms to display patterns of lines at first in two dimensions, and then in 3-D.
Early work in this direction had been produced by Prof. Charles Eastman at Carnegie-Mellon University, the Building Description System is a library of several hundred thousands architectural elements, which can be assembled and drawn on screen into a complete design concept."
I'll leave determining the whole fucking point of modeling an object in 3D as an exercise for the reader.
Additionally, getting music back off the iPod is not part of the advertised capabilities or features of the service, period, and never was
And yet, it's standard functionality for all other mp3 players. Auto companies don't explicitly state that their cars go in reverse, but it would be noteworthy if one didn't, right?
I always "saw" the "white hat" ethos as an attempt to "learn" rather than "teach". The whole "helping to improve your security" thing seems like kind of a "dodge". If you will.
Nice attitude towards human life you got there, pal. Maybe you'd like to get into a line of work where killing innocent civilians isn't something you have to make excuses for.
In industry, of course, the free market will eventually stop such corporate fantasies
Every time i hear the term 'free market' I see someone who inherited their money. There is no free market, and you should stop hoping it's going to come in and save the day for you.
Look, you can't just wish away industrial espionage and credit card fraud. Maybe it's not a huge issue over at Little Caesars, but it's been a pressing concern for every company I've ever worked for.
Hehe, my bad. You'll forgive me if I'm a little defensive and snippy for the next, oh, four years or so.
That's fine for the kids. Here in the adult world respect is gained and lost based on your actions, not the office you hold.
Now is when the lawyers find out that The Internet != Jesusland (previously, USA)
End of the Line (http://www.eotl.org) was always good for a laugh.
Wizard: Hi newbie, here is a very powerful sword. For free.
Newbie: Thanks!
Same Wizard: I see you have a weapon that is too powerful for your level. I will now dest you.
Newbie: mother****!
I was just dashing off a quick note, not trying to be all-inclusive.
Been thinking about this a bit, and it really is an all-or-nothing issue. If I'm responsible for all traffic on my network then I'm just as open to Terra/kiddie-porn stuff coming in over the web as I am to filesharing issues.
I guess I'd like to see some boilerplate agreement I could put up on a website & then have my SSID be the URL (tinyurl.com ?). Anyone know if that'd Cover My Ass?
Good thing the world doesn't have any real problems these jerks could be applying themselves to.
Start playing whack-a-mole with usenet and we get alt.veggies.leek.die.die.die or similar.
Wonder how long it takes before sysadmins at large ISPs realize that it's less time consuming to filter the traffic to and from the RIAA than it is to filter usenet. Occam's Razor and all that.
Yeah, they don't care. They actually offer a service where I can resell bandwidth like this, but don't mind if I give it away.
Interesting... my ISP just forwarded a C&D email from the MPAA aimed at my IP address. I'll be curious (an understatement!) to see if they are successful in getting my snail mail address out of my ISP after the Verison decision.
/had/ a wireless router running to provide access to anyone in range (it'll be back up after I get around to blocking off everything but 80 and 25, i guess), but I'm assuming that the whole "common carrier" exemption to network traffic only applies to corporations large enough to buy their own congressman.
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So... is this the end of offering open access to your neighborhood? I have no interest in monitoring traffic over my network, but it looks like the buck stops at the little guy (as usual).
I think this thread has expanded much too far past it's original scope; an admittedly weak analogy. Hopefully my point came across even if you don't agree with it.
I'll wager sixty quatloos on the newcomer.
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No dude, the whole idea is to patent a LOGICALLY obvious combination of ideas A and B...
Idea A: Thee Sledge
Idea B: Thee Wheel
TOTALLY NOVEL IDEA THAT YOU SHOULD PAY US FOR: A cart.
See? Nevermind that the wheel was invented to make the sledge easier to move around, it's fair game since nobody explicitly stated such.
In the words of Triumph, "did it hurt when they surgically removed your sense of shame?"
That's just the BSOMI.
Yeah, the whole site takes great pains to describe the THRUST POWER that 5 gears combined with a HUGE v8 engine provides your LENGTHY vehicle as you TOOL through country lanes. Or words to that effect.
Or maybe here.
Here's a snip: "The first Computer-Aided Design programs used simple algorithms to display patterns of lines at first in two dimensions, and then in 3-D. Early work in this direction had been produced by Prof. Charles Eastman at Carnegie-Mellon University, the Building Description System is a library of several hundred thousands architectural elements, which can be assembled and drawn on screen into a complete design concept."
I'll leave determining the whole fucking point of modeling an object in 3D as an exercise for the reader.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/27/sony_mp3_v id_player/
Maybe you should send a sharp note to Sony.
Really? I just went through the Lincoln website and couldn't find that anywhere.
"Ford Trucks: Ours go backwards"
Additionally, getting music back off the iPod is not part of the advertised capabilities or features of the service, period, and never was
And yet, it's standard functionality for all other mp3 players. Auto companies don't explicitly state that their cars go in reverse, but it would be noteworthy if one didn't, right?
push (@linky, "item");
print "=p";
"I'm serious, dammit!"
000100 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
000200 PROGRAM-ID. SeriousSinglyLinky.
000300 AUTHOR. Some Sad Bastard.
000400
000500 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
000600
000700 CONFIGURATION SECTION.
ok, that joke stopped being fun pretty quickly...
I always "saw" the "white hat" ethos as an attempt to "learn" rather than "teach". The whole "helping to improve your security" thing seems like kind of a "dodge". If you will.
We don't want to kill anyone we don't have to
Nice attitude towards human life you got there, pal. Maybe you'd like to get into a line of work where killing innocent civilians isn't something you have to make excuses for.
You use the words 'absolute' and 'truth' like a lot of people use the word 'genius' nowadays. I'm going to pray that you get a charlie horse.
Unless you live on the West Coast, where good coffee and good beer go hand-in-hand with an enlightened viewpoint.
We can leave Humbolt and Bellingham out of this discussion, I think...