I understand the value of searching for other planets but seriously in another galaxy? WTF? Does relavancy matter? Look for stuff in the Milky Way at least, we'll NEVER get there unless we figure out FTL and even finding intelligent life in another galaxy sending a message to another galaxy is so impractical that dozens of generations would pass before getting a response and then responding to that you'd pass a dozen more generations.
Our nearest star at least is what, 4 light years away? I mean, there is a neato factor to this but how much labor went into this rather then finding a solid gold meteor we could mine more 'immediate' research topics.
"One must master one-self before one can master others."
Lets get a good mastery of our own solar system before we go running off looking up Andromeda's skirt!
What I cannot figure out for my life is why they implement virtual processors in VM technology but don't bother giving the admins the ability to set execution thresholds on those virtual processors. It's a pain because we could do so much more with that fine grain control for writing SLA contracts which gets Linux in more enterprises where SLAs are required.
The examples you list, even ESX doesn't have facilities for SLA based provisioning.
"It's a would like to have" scenario. Based on your response Linux developers had no business event looking into KVM.
The whole point of progress is to look for new features and new opporunties. I can think of quite a few service providers that would love having SLA based provisioning in the linux kernel so they done have to spend $10,000 per MIP on a mainframe from IBM provisioning Counter Strike servers for example while being able to tuck a Gentoo Portage DistCC host on the same iron.
In large enterprises no, your test environments are still "Production" machines, aka they are mission critical with the expected uptimes. The "test" part of it is what you are running in the system, not the maturity of the iron itself. When a test environment is down that is just as important as the side the consumer sees. The hardware, especially with modern VM infrastructure is all production class. The VMs which the whole point of VMs is to isolate an environment.
Bare Iron in virtual infrastructure is just a resource now in most enterprises. It has become a Fabric of sorts now with SAN, ISCSI, etc. Along with clustering and failover the model has changed drastically on how hardware and software are managed.
Virutal Machines have changed the data center and now VMs result in hardware pools and fabrics rather then discrete machines.
This is important for EOM\EOQ\EOY system activity.
By establishing high\med\low power fabrics VMs can be shifted as needed based on expected hardware resources.
During End of Month say at a bank you may transfer all of your test VMs to a low power fabric to allow production to capitalize all the power. As certain development phases come and go you may want to shift which fabric your VM is running on. This is also crucial for testing VM functionality in various LOCATIONs within the network fabric.
Example Before we promote this code to production lets move the ACPT systems to HPERF Pool (where production always exists) to see if traffic is routed correctly (transforming the ACPT environment VMs effectively into a DRESS rehersal envionrment.)
For performance testing this may be necessary for mid-sized corporation that cannot afford to duplicate their high performance fabric. So we know that given the 3rd week of second quarter the activity on HIPERF1 is at 5% so we can move the ACPT environment to HIPERF1 and run a full load test and reserve the existing HIPERF1 applications 10% (so our load test can pin the system up to 90%).
That kind of provisioning is a pain in user space but soo damn useful. Same for facility relocation or hardware maintenance. Shutting down MEDPERF1 fabric for hardware maintenance? Shove 50% of the VMs onto HIPERF1 and 50% to LOWPERF1 until maintenance is complete.
The idea is that if you have a production ANYTHING in a VM then it is usually part of a cluster or pool. If a test VM, or any VM, is capable of bringing down the whole bare iron system then you wouldn't have VMs at all to being with. So if you do have PROD VMs then the risk of another VM dropping the system has already been defined as an acceptable risk.
This is what is driving the debate with cloud computing and why mainframes still are around. Some things you can virtualize with low risk, some things can live in the cloud, and for everything else there is a mainframe.
This stunt is dangerous. This rookie kid might just as well land the RIAA a win. The odds may look good for Kiwi right now but if the rookie screws up he may end up handing the RIAA a free ticket to tyranny.
Remember he could lose and set more case precident in favor of the RIAA. This guy is gambling and the stakes are incredibly high.
I am not amused at this, it's risking everyone rights and the future of fair use, by putting the case in his hands. He has noting to lose in this, he'll get his 15 minutes of fame either way. If he wins, great a blow to intellectual tyranny. If he loses, the law suit lottery flood gates are blown wide open.
Going on the offense against an industry who is backed by both parties, who have pretty much hand picked damn near ever appeals judge out there, sounds like about the dumbest idea since the Sword-Chucks from 8 bit theatre.
I'm not a fan of gambling with people's freedom.
Yeah I said it. Mod me whatever, but this scares the hell out of me... IANALBMWIAPL and she's pretty spooked too.
...Ask the questions in public places and seek a public response. That is the ultimate weakness of FUD and lies. They cannot stand the light of public exposure. Sunlight is the best antiseptic...
The problem is the time it takes to recognize the FUD and eliminate it all to often is too late and the damage has been done.
Bad information spreads quicker then good information because good information is usually boring and doesn't generate hits\traffic on the invisible series of tubes we call the Internet.
Still no support for SLA\95% throttling of processing power allocated to VMs.
Case in Point:
VM 1 : 80% Of processor utilization VM 2 : 20% of processor utilization
: Can borrow up to 20% of VM1's allocation
: if unused.
The scheduler does great things don't get me wrong but when it comes to provisioning systems for various clients some want a garuntee on the level of processing power that is available at any time. This is true in test systems as well where yout Integration, Acceptance, and Performance virtual environments may share Bare Iron with some production VMs.
Now this is old hat easy with mainframes (MIP allocation\weights between LPARS\SYSPLEX) but with more and more focus on VMs and hosted VMs SLAs on processing power is becoming more of an issue.
Nice values are not enough when writing contracts... Great work Linux team but could we get some more granular control over VM provisioning with SLAs in mind? Yeah we can build user space systems to help manage VMs but kernel level provisioning and auditing is something we need with KVM. Gotta have the reports to show the customer you are meeting the agreeded upon SLAs.
And for my own personal use, I'd love to be able to throttle a dos 6.22 VM to 486 speeds so some of those ancient programs can be ran for historical purposes. (Without bombing the processor with dummy NOP and other MOSLO crap so we keep our power consumption down.)
How crap kiddo it's not even 9 am where I am at. If I was writing a paper I'd at least get a cup of coffee first. You grammar nazis need to relax.
As far as Okay goes, that was the requried spelling in schools till about... 2004. At least in real schools rather then those public daycares they run now...
Me go now to the blew house and ates some nummies for break fast and den write j00 back k?;)
There is also only so much money and time so prioritizations would go:
Crime Famine (because we all to often feed gangs who steal the food so we are back to crime) DAMN NEAR EVERY OTHER PROBLEM IN THE WORLD Then Light Pollution.
Per their own lore: Prior to the Tauren and Thrall they were solely warmongering bad guys. Hijackking NAT (North American Tribal) culture was a smart move to get away from classic orcs, even if a bit insulting.
Sociologists are scientists. They do study human behavior and gangs, crime, and drug use are born out of human behavior. I'd wager if we spent as much money "curing" crime as we did "curing" other diseases I'd wager we could do with a few less prisons.
"Mystic Realms of Lore" is a fictional work I spent 15 years developing. Now that I am getting to the age where kids and married life are my priorities I decided to sit down and finalize the cannon, write a few books and get it ready to share with the generation yet to come so to speak. I spent 10 years as a dungeon master and MRL was the world I created. The Intro to the world is here:
That's just it, the arrangement isn't even all that unique. There is little snobbitry, your just not old enough or read enough to notice just how little variation there is now...
The people that would maintain the laptops are already there. No cost increase because they already maintain the computer lab. With a stripped down ebook reader effective the support goes to almost non-existent. You also have to factor in wear and tear on a book, acedemic review of the book.
I know plenty of teachers that would be more then willing to draft a text book and farm it out digitally for $5 a month. They have been trying for YEARS but state requirements prohibit buying from non-approved vendors and publishers.
1: A service design to indulge the sense of self importance by posting information that history will care little for.
2: A web site and infrastructure for passing small messages out to an open ended communication channel in which people what are extremely bored and track the likewise boring activities of others.
3: A simple text exchange in which creative people and some regular expressions can generate a swarm-like information network to gauge personal activity. For instance:
"by following a demographic of X a researcher can key in on how people feel about Y topic."
"An automatic event scheduler system can be generated by people tweeting possible event dates in which subscribers through a script can vector in and select an event date in which all or a certain threshold of particpants can agree to."
4: A method by which information is exchanged into a open ended channel. See Broadcast SMS 2.0
Wow, it must have really sucked to fly under my radar...
Anyway, I should contribute something to the discussion.
The whole point why successful dating services (yeah who would have throught MMOs and Dating Services had something in common) charge is to create a cost-of-entry that separates serious participants from the rest of the population.
By making a game free-to-play you are inviting disaster as many/.'ers have pointed out.
In fact game studios would do far better to charge MORE for certain options.
I know at least 400 VN board members that pleaded with Mythic for a 21+ and over server for DAOC. We were so damn sick of the 10 year olds playing...
Same with the hard core role players. They were willing to shell out $20 a month for a hard core, RPG server.
I'd wager you would also get some people to kick in $5 extra a month for say 40 and older servers also for people that still remember how to spell OKAY.
Seriously free-to-play means every idiot and their cousin can get on. Remember how pissed the techie crowd was with AOL and COMPUSERV for bring ever no-nothing to the Internet?
Seriously look what happened to WoW when they started their free trial program. First week alone on Tichndrius there where 200+ people spamming Gold ads in Ironforge forever renaming it LAGFORGE and SPAMFORGE.
Even after the tweaks to shut up folks on trial accounts you still had to contend with starting an alt and have 100 level 1 bots camping every spawn with some level 40 (at the time) telling you that if you want to kill stuff you had to play him 10 gold. (We had a big problem with Cross Realm extortionists back then...)
Seriously D&D Online must have sucked pretty bad for flying this low under the radar and making a free-to-play version sounds like a really really bad idea...
But hey I love being proven wrong. It happens once in a while and I find it refreshing.
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Experience + Inexperience != Experience
I understand the value of searching for other planets but seriously in another galaxy? WTF? Does relavancy matter? Look for stuff in the Milky Way at least, we'll NEVER get there unless we figure out FTL and even finding intelligent life in another galaxy sending a message to another galaxy is so impractical that dozens of generations would pass before getting a response and then responding to that you'd pass a dozen more generations.
Our nearest star at least is what, 4 light years away? I mean, there is a neato factor to this but how much labor went into this rather then finding a solid gold meteor we could mine more 'immediate' research topics.
"One must master one-self before one can master others."
Lets get a good mastery of our own solar system before we go running off looking up Andromeda's skirt!
What I cannot figure out for my life is why they implement virtual processors in VM technology but don't bother giving the admins the ability to set execution thresholds on those virtual processors. It's a pain because we could do so much more with that fine grain control for writing SLA contracts which gets Linux in more enterprises where SLAs are required.
I offer this:
Look at history, and political science and take a hard look at why republics functioned beter then pure democracy. The Internet runs the same risk.
Take heed and good luck, crowd sourcing has a hidden downside people are forgetting.
I'd rather have seen a colation of about 12 lawyers get together first and think this through... Even Babe Ruth played on a team of more then 2.
The examples you list, even ESX doesn't have facilities for SLA based provisioning.
"It's a would like to have" scenario. Based on your response Linux developers had no business event looking into KVM.
The whole point of progress is to look for new features and new opporunties. I can think of quite a few service providers that would love having SLA based provisioning in the linux kernel so they done have to spend $10,000 per MIP on a mainframe from IBM provisioning Counter Strike servers for example while being able to tuck a Gentoo Portage DistCC host on the same iron.
most crime doesn't involve rich vs. poor. It's largely poor vs. poor trying to get out of being poor.
Drugs tend to be an escape from poverty.
Theft is usually to get money for drugs.
A good bulk of crime is fraud.
Most violent crime appears to have deep mental health issues rather then just plain old anger management.
You cannot eliminate it, but you can go a great distance in treating the underlying issues that foster it.
paralegal. I throw the L on the end because people can't for the life of them guess the P alone.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win" - Sun Tzu
In large enterprises no, your test environments are still "Production" machines, aka they are mission critical with the expected uptimes. The "test" part of it is what you are running in the system, not the maturity of the iron itself. When a test environment is down that is just as important as the side the consumer sees. The hardware, especially with modern VM infrastructure is all production class. The VMs which the whole point of VMs is to isolate an environment.
Bare Iron in virtual infrastructure is just a resource now in most enterprises. It has become a Fabric of sorts now with SAN, ISCSI, etc. Along with clustering and failover the model has changed drastically on how hardware and software are managed.
Virutal Machines have changed the data center and now VMs result in hardware pools and fabrics rather then discrete machines.
This is important for EOM\EOQ\EOY system activity.
By establishing high\med\low power fabrics VMs can be shifted as needed based on expected hardware resources.
During End of Month say at a bank you may transfer all of your test VMs to a low power fabric to allow production to capitalize all the power. As certain development phases come and go you may want to shift which fabric your VM is running on. This is also crucial for testing VM functionality in various LOCATIONs within the network fabric.
Example
Before we promote this code to production lets move the ACPT systems to HPERF Pool (where production always exists) to see if traffic is routed correctly (transforming the ACPT environment VMs effectively into a DRESS rehersal envionrment.)
For performance testing this may be necessary for mid-sized corporation that cannot afford to duplicate their high performance fabric. So we know that given the 3rd week of second quarter the activity on HIPERF1 is at 5% so we can move the ACPT environment to HIPERF1 and run a full load test and reserve the existing HIPERF1 applications 10% (so our load test can pin the system up to 90%).
That kind of provisioning is a pain in user space but soo damn useful. Same for facility relocation or hardware maintenance. Shutting down MEDPERF1 fabric for hardware maintenance? Shove 50% of the VMs onto HIPERF1 and 50% to LOWPERF1 until maintenance is complete.
The idea is that if you have a production ANYTHING in a VM then it is usually part of a cluster or pool. If a test VM, or any VM, is capable of bringing down the whole bare iron system then you wouldn't have VMs at all to being with. So if you do have PROD VMs then the risk of another VM dropping the system has already been defined as an acceptable risk.
This is what is driving the debate with cloud computing and why mainframes still are around. Some things you can virtualize with low risk, some things can live in the cloud, and for everything else there is a mainframe.
This stunt is dangerous. This rookie kid might just as well land the RIAA a win. The odds may look good for Kiwi right now but if the rookie screws up he may end up handing the RIAA a free ticket to tyranny.
Remember he could lose and set more case precident in favor of the RIAA. This guy is gambling and the stakes are incredibly high.
I am not amused at this, it's risking everyone rights and the future of fair use, by putting the case in his hands. He has noting to lose in this, he'll get his 15 minutes of fame either way. If he wins, great a blow to intellectual tyranny. If he loses, the law suit lottery flood gates are blown wide open.
Going on the offense against an industry who is backed by both parties, who have pretty much hand picked damn near ever appeals judge out there, sounds like about the dumbest idea since the Sword-Chucks from 8 bit theatre.
I'm not a fan of gambling with people's freedom.
Yeah I said it. Mod me whatever, but this scares the hell out of me... IANALBMWIAPL and she's pretty spooked too.
...Ask the questions in public places and seek a public response. That is the ultimate weakness of FUD and lies. They cannot stand the light of public exposure. Sunlight is the best antiseptic...
The problem is the time it takes to recognize the FUD and eliminate it all to often is too late and the damage has been done.
Bad information spreads quicker then good information because good information is usually boring and doesn't generate hits\traffic on the invisible series of tubes we call the Internet.
...And Futurama is animated so you're not limited by budgets and CGI...
Actually most animation is now computer driven so it is actually CGI but considerably cheaper then the old animation methods. 2-D CGI is still CGI.
That is the problem, no way to throttle the VMs on commodity hardware, thus the whole point of the post.
Still no support for SLA\95% throttling of processing power allocated to VMs.
Case in Point:
VM 1 : 80% Of processor utilization
VM 2 : 20% of processor utilization
: Can borrow up to 20% of VM1's allocation
: if unused.
The scheduler does great things don't get me wrong but when it comes to provisioning systems for various clients some want a garuntee on the level of processing power that is available at any time. This is true in test systems as well where yout Integration, Acceptance, and Performance virtual environments may share Bare Iron with some production VMs.
Now this is old hat easy with mainframes (MIP allocation\weights between LPARS\SYSPLEX) but with more and more focus on VMs and hosted VMs SLAs on processing power is becoming more of an issue.
Nice values are not enough when writing contracts... Great work Linux team but could we get some more granular control over VM provisioning with SLAs in mind? Yeah we can build user space systems to help manage VMs but kernel level provisioning and auditing is something we need with KVM. Gotta have the reports to show the customer you are meeting the agreeded upon SLAs.
And for my own personal use, I'd love to be able to throttle a dos 6.22 VM to 486 speeds so some of those ancient programs can be ran for historical purposes. (Without bombing the processor with dummy NOP and other MOSLO crap so we keep our power consumption down.)
Just some musings as Linux rolls along...
How crap kiddo it's not even 9 am where I am at. If I was writing a paper I'd at least get a cup of coffee first. You grammar nazis need to relax.
As far as Okay goes, that was the requried spelling in schools till about... 2004. At least in real schools rather then those public daycares they run now...
Me go now to the blew house and ates some nummies for break fast and den write j00 back k? ;)
True but as a barrier of entry a 10 year old will have a hard time justifying the extra cost to mom and dad.
There is also only so much money and time so prioritizations would go:
Crime
Famine (because we all to often feed gangs who steal the food so we are back to crime)
DAMN NEAR EVERY OTHER PROBLEM IN THE WORLD
Then Light Pollution.
Per their own lore: Prior to the Tauren and Thrall they were solely warmongering bad guys. Hijackking NAT (North American Tribal) culture was a smart move to get away from classic orcs, even if a bit insulting.
Sociologists are scientists. They do study human behavior and gangs, crime, and drug use are born out of human behavior. I'd wager if we spent as much money "curing" crime as we did "curing" other diseases I'd wager we could do with a few less prisons.
"Mystic Realms of Lore" is a fictional work I spent 15 years developing. Now that I am getting to the age where kids and married life are my priorities I decided to sit down and finalize the cannon, write a few books and get it ready to share with the generation yet to come so to speak. I spent 10 years as a dungeon master and MRL was the world I created. The Intro to the world is here:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddq2ctmg_50cf4v6fdx&pageview=1&hgd=1&hl=en
That's just it, the arrangement isn't even all that unique. There is little snobbitry, your just not old enough or read enough to notice just how little variation there is now...
The people that would maintain the laptops are already there. No cost increase because they already maintain the computer lab. With a stripped down ebook reader effective the support goes to almost non-existent. You also have to factor in wear and tear on a book, acedemic review of the book.
I know plenty of teachers that would be more then willing to draft a text book and farm it out digitally for $5 a month. They have been trying for YEARS but state requirements prohibit buying from non-approved vendors and publishers.
Twitter (n):
1: A service design to indulge the sense of self importance by posting information that history will care little for.
2: A web site and infrastructure for passing small messages out to an open ended communication channel in which people what are extremely bored and track the likewise boring activities of others.
3: A simple text exchange in which creative people and some regular expressions can generate a swarm-like information network to gauge personal activity. For instance:
"by following a demographic of X a researcher can key in on how people feel about Y topic."
"An automatic event scheduler system can be generated by people tweeting possible event dates in which subscribers through a script can vector in and select an event date in which all or a certain threshold of particpants can agree to."
4: A method by which information is exchanged into a open ended channel. See Broadcast SMS 2.0
Wow, it must have really sucked to fly under my radar...
Anyway, I should contribute something to the discussion.
The whole point why successful dating services (yeah who would have throught MMOs and Dating Services had something in common) charge is to create a cost-of-entry that separates serious participants from the rest of the population.
By making a game free-to-play you are inviting disaster as many /.'ers have pointed out.
In fact game studios would do far better to charge MORE for certain options.
I know at least 400 VN board members that pleaded with Mythic for a 21+ and over server for DAOC. We were so damn sick of the 10 year olds playing...
Same with the hard core role players. They were willing to shell out $20 a month for a hard core, RPG server.
I'd wager you would also get some people to kick in $5 extra a month for say 40 and older servers also for people that still remember how to spell OKAY.
Seriously free-to-play means every idiot and their cousin can get on. Remember how pissed the techie crowd was with AOL and COMPUSERV for bring ever no-nothing to the Internet?
Seriously look what happened to WoW when they started their free trial program. First week alone on Tichndrius there where 200+ people spamming Gold ads in Ironforge forever renaming it LAGFORGE and SPAMFORGE.
Even after the tweaks to shut up folks on trial accounts you still had to contend with starting an alt and have 100 level 1 bots camping every spawn with some level 40 (at the time) telling you that if you want to kill stuff you had to play him 10 gold. (We had a big problem with Cross Realm extortionists back then...)
Seriously D&D Online must have sucked pretty bad for flying this low under the radar and making a free-to-play version sounds like a really really bad idea...
But hey I love being proven wrong. It happens once in a while and I find it refreshing.