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One-Tweet Wonders

theodp writes "TIME has seen-the-future-and-it-is-Twitter. Slate, on the other hand, is more fascinated with the phenomenon of orphaned tweets, the messages left by people who sign up for Twitter, post once, then never return (not unlike one-blog-post wonders). While some orphan tweets betray skepticism about microblogging ('I don't get it... what's the point of this thing?'), other one-and-done Twitterers demonstrate keen enthusiasm before disappearing ('I'm here!'), and some tweets hint that tragedy has cut a promising Twittering-life short ('it hurts to breathe. should I go to the hospital?'). Slate notes that studies of Twitter accounts by Harvard and Nielsen suggest the service has been better at signing up users than keeping them, including the one-tweet wonders."

170 comments

  1. Social Stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is basically Retarded. Enough said.

    1. Re:Social Stuff by _merlin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thank you for proving that the stereotype of the antisocial geek is spot on. Now I have even less chance of getting laid.

    2. Re:Social Stuff by $1uck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And here you are posting in community forum. How very social of you.

    3. Re:Social Stuff by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Is basically Retarded

      "It hurts to breathe, should I go to the hospital?"

      That's too dumb to be real. Pranksters and trolls are everywhere. But, you know, slashdot is a social site of sorts, so if you believe social sites are retarded, what does that say about you?

    4. Re:Social Stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      And here you are posting in community forum. How very social of you.

      I'ts not social, it's slashdot

    5. Re:Social Stuff by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      Not all social stuff is retarded, just Twitter....I really don't give a damn what my friends are doing all day. They'll tell me the important stuff next time I see them. All twitter is for the most part are unimportant people thinking that other people beyond the 2 friends they have really care about all the boring stuff they do. If something is so important I have to know right away, I have email and a cell phone already. At least those take some effort to use and keep the noise level down a bit.

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    6. Re:Social Stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't be less chance. You are on Slashdot, thus you already had no chance of getting laid.

    7. Re:Social Stuff by Chiindi · · Score: 1

      You just can't get enough info in 140 characters for instructions and help in keeping your Lithium 6 Deuteride dry, or making a deal for those old Krypton switches on eBay.

  2. Universal Law of Twitter ... by krou · · Score: 4, Funny

    Krou's law: There is, on average, only one tweet per twit.

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    'If Christ had tweeted the sermon on the mount, it might have lasted until nightfall.' - John Perry Barlow
    1. Re:Universal Law of Twitter ... by Random2 · · Score: 1

      Makes you wonder about the people who make thousands of tweets....

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      "Our goal each year should be to increase the number of goals we set for ourselves!"
    2. Re:Universal Law of Twitter ... by jo42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      From the Twitter lexicon, thousands of tweets is "twatter" thus making the poster a "twat".

    3. Re:Universal Law of Twitter ... by TinBromide · · Score: 1

      Recently, this Twit has one tweet on his account. I registered a while ago to save my name and tweeted. I think that may be the dynamic. If Harvard and Nielsen managed to get thier names and not squatters, they may have been doing the equivalent of protecting their tweet space name.

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    4. Re:Universal Law of Twitter ... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Perhaps we should say more precisely: The mode of all twits is one tweet.

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    5. Re:Universal Law of Twitter ... by joeyspqr · · Score: 1

      the generic term for any amount of has been with us for years ... twaddle

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    6. Re:Universal Law of Twitter ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      twat is that suppose to mean?

    7. Re:Universal Law of Twitter ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Blogging and Twitter follow along on a kind of trajectory based on positive emotional feedback. If the first tweets or blogs postings leave the person feeling emotionally flat, or with a negative emotion, like say if they feel that what they've said is not insightful or of little value, then they are unlikely to continue the act. Obviously millions of people apparently lack the sense of self reflection needed to make that assessment honestly. IMHO it's like a monkey pressing a button to get a reward. I think that's why within moments of signing up for twitter (out of curiosity) I had "people" who wanted to follow my tweets even before I had actually tweeted something.

  3. Nothing too new here by orta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It happens with everything, people try it then forget to go back and continue. Personally I end up tweeting about once a month or two, I really don't care that much about the smaller details in peoples lives. And I've got a few friends who've done the whole orphan tweet thing. Nothing notably funny though, Kinda funny if they start posting now because so many people have started to follow them through the press =)

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    1. Re:Nothing too new here by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      so many people have started to follow them through the press =)

      About half the people following me are part of the associated press. I'm convinced that's all they do these days.

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  4. Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It hurts to post, should I go to the hospital?

    1. Re:Ouch by _merlin · · Score: 1

      No, you should curl up and die. You're going to one day, anyway. It's a nasty experience, so you may as well get it out of the way as soon as possible.

  5. I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tweeting seems like a great idea for people who want to start cults or for people who wish they had stalkers.

    1. Re:I don't get it. by Henk+Poley · · Score: 2, Funny

      You should have posted that on Twitter, it would fit. 140 character limit and all.

      $ echo "I don't get it. weeting seems like a great idea for people who want to start cults or for people who wish they had stalkers." | wc
            1 25 125

  6. Tweet = Prott by Cornwallis · · Score: 2, Funny

    A great old sci-fi story by Margaret St. Clair "Prott" is a "boring" alien race, who did nothing but bore humans. They looked like gigantic space-going fried eggs. The story begins with a Prott discovering a human in a spaceship; the Prott enthusiastically begins telling the human about "--ing the --." However, the man can't make out what the noun and verb in the telepathically transmitted phrase mean, so the Prott explains some more... and more... and brings equally enthusiastic friends who want to do nothing but talk about "--ing the --" ad infinitum. Reminds me of Twitter.

    1. Re:Tweet = Prott by porl · · Score: 1

      sounds interesting. i looked around but couldn't find any copy online. anyone have one? it's a pretty old story so i would assume it is legal. maybe i'm wrong though.

    2. Re:Tweet = Prott by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Informative

      i looked around but couldn't find any copy online. anyone have one? it's a pretty old story so i would assume it is legal. maybe i'm wrong though.

      Unlikely. She was born in 1911 when copyright was already 28years plus another 28 if the author filed for extension. The puts her in the "mickey mouse envelope" so unless someone really screwed up along the way, or she deliberately donated it to the public domain, pretty much everything she's written will still remain locked up in perpetuity.

      Here's a useful list of american copyright extensions.
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=249705&threshold=2&commentsort=0&pid=19855425

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      When information is power, privacy is freedom.
    3. Re:Tweet = Prott by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Tweet = Prott by OzRoy · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a digg user who keeps "accidentally the whole thing".

  7. Long term? by pHus10n · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just don't see this lasting more than another year --- and I think I'm being generous. I honestly can't understand why anyone is fascinated with reading
    It might be different if the messages were more directed, or useful. But sending messages so "my fans" (subscribers) can read them is just.... /shrug.

    1. Re:Long term? by JustOK · · Score: 1

      and you post to slashdot because...?

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    2. Re:Long term? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Responses can be long and meaningful.

    3. Re:Long term? by Darkness404 · · Score: 0

      Exactly especially whenever you can simply subscribe to SMS Facebook status updates and update your status from your phone. Plus theres the upside that most sane people only update their status once or twice a day.

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    4. Re:Long term? by pHus10n · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I post to slashdot because, by the nature of how the site is designed, it encourages people to stop by and debate a topic with multiple peope. The only restrictions I'm aware of are a) staying on topic, and b) be somewhat mature in your ramblings. Twitter is designed for people to sign up as a listener of a person's short messages (tweets). Those short messages make it more difficult to convey a thorough message. Also, it's a very one-way discussion.

      I don't know why, but after previewing my message above, part of it was cut off. My major complain with Twitter is the way it encourages a "celebrity" thought process from those tweeting. It's a lot like those blogs that people put up on the net, and abandon after one or two posts --- I'm sorry, but the majority of people out there posting their thoughts are not as interesting as they think they are. Including me.

      Otherwise, I'd probably get paid to put my thoughts out there.

    5. Re:Long term? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The irony of it.

      On a microblog (there are better ones that twitter) I can listen to people I'm interested in, and not those I'm not. Here I get to hear your pointless opinion, which interests me not at all, just because some bozo decided to mod your insightless comment insightful.

      So anyway, why are *you* (whoever the hell you are) sending these messages?

    6. Re:Long term? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I just don't see this lasting more than another year

      You underestimate the need of the unwashed masses to say useless things to people. You know how some people are sending pointless banter in text messages constantly?

      Twitter is the evolution of idle texting.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    7. Re:Long term? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint: you're not their market. therefore your opinions on it's longevity are going to be ridiculously skewed.

      It'll probably be around another decade.

    8. Re:Long term? by jalefkowit · · Score: 1

      You must be new here.

    9. Re:Long term? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There are people that find it interesting to know how my personal life is going on a daily, sometimes hourly, basis. On the other hand, I can communicate with them by causing alternating compressions and rarefactions in the atmosphere, in a completely non-electronic manner. When that is impractical, I resort to a point-to-point protocol for electronically transmitting such compressions and rarefactions. Should that be impractical, I've been known to send short text messages in a point-to-point protocol. The advantage of the last two is that the people I need to communicate with are more likely to be carrying cell phones than monitoring an internet site.

      Anybody else is interested in what I have to say only in the case of my witnessing some event, or because they like my insightful analysis or something. For that, I either need context, or more words than Twitter will allow me on a tweet.

      If I ever do wind up in a situation where lots of devoted fans are hanging on my every short message, and they don't pay attention to "Get a life!" or "Think for yourselves!" or similar messages, I'll have no choice but to become an electronic hermit to avoid the insanity.

      So, I don't see what I could possibly want with Twitter.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    10. Re:Long term? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. When the likes of old politicians get on the bandwagon it's time for tweens to violently eject from the new shiny thing.

    11. Re:Long term? by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      Reading /.

    12. Re:Long term? by electrons_are_brave · · Score: 1

      Twitter is a fad - and like all fads I loved it for a little while. There was one time I thought it worked great - there was a small explosion followed by a fire about 2 suburbs away (I could see the big smpoke-cloud from my work window). I tweeted to find out what building it was exactly. So did a number of other people. And then someone who was in a building nearer to the fire gave details. All of this happened in 10 mins, and before the radio was giving any information other than what I knew. As it turned out the twitter eye-witness information was accurate, too.

  8. Protected updates by Emperor+Tiberius · · Score: 1

    Further proof as to why people should protect theirs: to prevent news agencies from analyzing them :-).

  9. I use twitter daily, but never tweet. by PaulGrimshaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, I have not RTFA, but - I use twitter every single day but have only posted one tweet. I only follow a few interesting people but I now find it invaluable as a way of keeping track of them. I have stopped using facebook - I realise that I now am more interested in seeing what other people say than publishing my own content, I guess a lot of people are like that.

    1. Re:I use twitter daily, but never tweet. by value_added · · Score: 4, Funny

      I only follow a few interesting people but I now find it invaluable as a way of keeping track of them

      So she finally got that restraining order? ;-)

    2. Re:I use twitter daily, but never tweet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whether you're the pitcher (tweeter) or the catcher (tweetee), at the end of the day you're still gay.

    3. Re:I use twitter daily, but never tweet. by mbenzi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is exactly the use case that the critics still don't understand. There are dozens (hundreds?) of ways to use Twitter that don't involve tweeting. @cnn @AJEnglish @woot @wxseattle @HouseFloor , etc.

      People read websites all the time w/o posting comments, no one says those people have abandoned the web. Just because Twitter allows for two-way conversions doesn't mean that is how you have to use it.

    4. Re:I use twitter daily, but never tweet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find that Twitter is very useful in keeping me updated to breaking news. That is the main function of Twitter, to me. Another way I use twitter is as a journal for my spur-of-the-moment, concise ideas.

    5. Re:I use twitter daily, but never tweet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "She always said I was a romantic - but that was before the restraining order." http://www.cafepress.com/redacted.298113352

    6. Re:I use twitter daily, but never tweet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please give an example of the breaking news that you are getting from twitter.
      Is it something like this: http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Twittering-Office-Chair/ or http://aculei.net/~shardy/hacklabtoilet/ ?

  10. If you don't read TFA by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This says about all there is to say about Twitter:

    In at least one instance, two orphan tweets appear to have been in conversation.

    marcbresseel getting ready for cannes - printing latest briefing - I hate folding my shirts
    8:36 AM Jun 14th, 2008

    Kolcott @Marcbresseel You fold your shirts?
    9:13 AM Jul 10th, 2008

    A lone call followed by a lone response; a social network of two.

    The best and worst of this new media, done and done. We can all move along now.

    1. Re:If you don't read TFA by cptdondo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Makes you wonder how many of these are some sort of throwaway code.

      getting ready for cannes == set the date
      Printing latest briefing == getting the drugs
      Folding shirts == meet at designated spot

      and so on.... Seems that twitter would be a great way to use one-time pads and code phrases.....

    2. Re:If you don't read TFA by patro · · Score: 1

      Seems that twitter would be a great way to use one-time pads and code phrases.....

      Sounds like a terrorist tool. We should ban it.

      (Apparently, the terrorist-argument can actually be used for the common good in some cases.)

    3. Re:If you don't read TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact we should gather all using these terrorist tools and detain them for future briefing at an undisclosed time in the future once everything has become clean once again with terrorism :)

    4. Re:If you don't read TFA by story645 · · Score: 1

      Researcher Says Social Networks Link Terrorists and I remember something about intelligence organizations looking at social networks for coded messages.

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  11. Gerge J's first and last tweet: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Help!

    Jane, how do you stop this crazy thing!

  12. Whiners of all countries, unite! by cerberusss · · Score: 1, Insightful

    For all the people who hate Twitter, don't get it, like to make remarks about using twitter to inform others of bowel movements, how trivial it is to build it, et cetera:

    Please reply to this thread to contain the complaining

    Every story even remotely connected to Twitter gets the trolls crawling under their stones, mumbling how much they hate it.

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    1. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by value_added · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Every story even remotely connected to Twitter gets the trolls crawling under their stones, mumbling how much they hate it.

      Feeling the love, huh?

      What you're referring to are are just parenthetical comments. The underlying question, and one that's yet to be answered, can be summed in a way that a Twitterer like yourself can appreciate:

      What's the fucking point?

      Absent one-off scenarios (the Obama campaign), I've yet to see any value in any of it. What I do see is a large number of people engaged in what could generously be described as trivia, and dragging down the quality of discourse for the rest of us to levels too embarassing to ponder.

      I'll cite one example. Consider CNN, hardly known for its journalistic excellence, but an outlet with mass appeal. The guy that does the lunchtime shift (you know, the moron who tries to appear empassioned about news stories by shouting rhetorical but trollish questions at his audience and guests like a Tourette's sufferer). He spends much of his time actually reading tweets! And instead of brief headlines being appearing on the CNN scroller, we're now forced to read the contributions by every anonymous illiterate out there who has an opinion, an internet connection, and a fondness for extraneous ASCII characters.

      Seriously, is this the kind of society we want to live in?

    2. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, is this the kind of society we want to live in?

      Shitcock! (drool)

    3. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by superdana · · Score: 1

      What's the fucking point?

      Having fun with your friends.

      Of course, you have to have friends. And you have to be capable of experiencing joy.

      It's not supposed to be a "tool," and it's not supposed to be fucking "discourse." If you want discourse, go read the Journal of Philosophy. Not everything has to be serious, substantive, functional or important. Is there nothing in your life that's frivolous? If not, that might explain why you're so grumpy.

    4. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

      Forums started off with wordy posts and in-depth discussion. Then the fashion moved towards one-word posts, witty acronyms and image macros. Now we're all (supposedly) on twitter, where the message itself is restricted to 140 characters. I can see where this is heading.

    5. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the fucking point?

      Having fun with your friends.

      That's the point of 4chan also. Maybe that's why I have the about the same opinion of both.

    6. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by Peganthyrus · · Score: 1

      I finally figured out the appeal of Twitter a while back: it's like keeping an IRC window open allll day long. Except it can go onto your cellfloam as well as your computer if you want it to.

      If I wanted to keep a regular stream of distracted chat up with my friends, I might think Twitter was awesome. But I would rather just go off by myself and draw most of the time.

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    7. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're a tool.

    8. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Absent one-off scenarios (the Obama campaign), I've yet to see any value in any of it. What I do see is a large number of people engaged in what could generously be described as trivia, and dragging down the quality of discourse for the rest of us to levels too embarassing to ponder.

      The value is that I have a lot of friends and far too little time to hang out with all of them (kids, baseball leagues, house projects, etc.). It's kind of nice to see that Rob just finished a chapter of his newest novel, and Jon shaved 5 seconds off his circuit time over last year, and Jayson had some luck getting his RAID card working. There's no way I want to get an email about each of those things, but I like having a terse chronological display of what my far-flung friends are up to. It makes them seem not so distant.

      Honestly, the alternative to Twitter and Facebook for most people I know would be to permanently lose contact with them. In some cases that wouldn't be a bad thing, but I enjoy knowing that my high school buddy is having fun being a dad and that my old neighbor in California is still making those weird sculptures.

      That is the point, for me at least, and yes, that's the kind of society I want to live in.

      And if you still don't get it, consider that Twitter is a less verbose and topical version of Slashdot. You could make the same arguments against this site ("Twitter for geeks. Less concise."), but here we are.

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    9. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by zenslug · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are several points to Twitter, but not all or none of them may apply to you. The one that has the most value to me is search. If there is an earthquake or some other breaking news story, you'll read about it online soonest via Twitter search.

      Twitter content is like content on the web: some of it is valuable, but most of it is garbage. If you have a good search tool, you can more quickly get to the real value and out of the noise. Don't be distracted by the mindless chatter. And, if it turns out to be a fad, it will be gone soon enough.

    10. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by DeepHurtn! · · Score: 1

      Nah, by the time forums came along, it was already too late. Twitter is just another symptom of the September that Never Ended! Now get off my lawn!

    11. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      I've yet to see any value in any of it. What I do see is a large number of people engaged in what could generously be described as trivia

      I know a number of people who live in the same city, and we are all entrepreneurs. We are all very busy and not really friends, but rather colleagues. Sometimes we cooperate on projects. We keep eachother up-to-date via twitter. It enables us to talk about something else rather than work, as well.

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    12. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      Having fun with your friends.

      I get it.

      But it's a massive, massive downgrade from IRC and Usenet.

      It's like hanging out on the internet for people who were too stupid to even qualify as AOL users from the March of '94 to November of '98 era.

    13. Re:Whiners of all countries, unite! by inu_maru · · Score: 1

      I use twitter as a persistent IRC among a bunch of friends. It has less features, but higher mobility, less hassle. I don't see why should anybody be so upset about it.

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  13. That is the end of Twitter by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Once it makes to the cover of Time, it is a sure sign it has peaked. If you see the bull (or bear) dressed in a suit on the cover of Time or Newsweek that will be a 3 year high (or low) and if both mags have the bull (or bear) in the same week, it will be a five year high (or low).

    It is much like that apocryphal story about a shoeshine boy (or a taxi driver) telling JFK's Dad (Patrick Kennedy?) to get into the stock market and JKF's dad figuring, if these guys are in, it is time to get out.

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    1. Re:That is the end of Twitter by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

      JFK's dad was JFK, just an average Joe.

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    2. Re:That is the end of Twitter by Miseph · · Score: 1

      Just an Average Joe who made a fortune running booze in from Canada and bought up tons of real estate and small businesses with the proceeds. The Kennedys since him haven't actually had to work very hard for their money, it just never really runs out.

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    3. Re:That is the end of Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously.

      This is the same magazine that didn't have enough web savvy to stop the utter pwnage of their Top 100 most influential people of 2009 by a bunch of pimply kids from 4chan.

      THIS is the magazine that declares Twitter the future? Meh.

    4. Re:That is the end of Twitter by saforrest · · Score: 1

      JFK's dad was Joe Kennedy. Here is an example of the story you mentioned (which I hadn't heard before):

      http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1996/04/15/211503/index.htm

    5. Re:That is the end of Twitter by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      The thing is, it's artificially peaked, due to being pumped up by the media. People at my work, social gatherings, etc always mention/talk about facebook; I've never, ever heard someone say "twitter" or "tweet" out loud. It's only peaked (piqued?) in the social consiousness because of the media and it's use for advertising. For inter/intra personal communication it's a poor medium and that's why it will never take off like the media keeps saying it will. It has it's uses, but in general people don't need their own RSS feeds. Better tools exist, even if they don't use SMS to accomplish it.

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    6. Re:That is the end of Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the time I get with it and sign up for a Twitter account, Twitter will have already ended.

      I just got this great new tape player called a "Walkman." It's so new, I'm having trouble finding new content for it.

      Gotta run - I have to pick up my powder blue tux at the cleaners.

      Wow! Three tweets already and I'm not even a member.

    7. Re:That is the end of Twitter by slackerboy · · Score: 1

      JFK's dad was JFK, just an average Joe.

      Close. His initials were JPK

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  14. I switched... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use to twit now I twat.

  15. the reason by ilblissli · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the reason these people sign up in the first place is to follow tweets of others. be it someone famous and worthless like ashton kutcher, or to follow news tweets like cnn.com regardless, you can't subscribe to someone's tweet stream unless you have signed up. people probably sign up for that reason, post once just because they feel that urge to push the shiny red button. then they just dip back into the shadows to lurk and watch other people's lives unfold.

    1. Re:the reason by manly_15 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, you can subscribe to just about any stream of data from twitter with RSS. Of course, most non-techies won't know how to do that, but it's quite possible to be a pure twitter follower with nothing other than an RSS client.

      Where twitter accounts do become useful is how they're a bridge between the informal aspects of IRC and IM and the persistence of email. Rather then spamming your friends with email or IM with a link to an interesting news story, you can just tweet it, and give them the control to follow up, ignore, or filter as they see fit.

    2. Re:the reason by ilblissli · · Score: 1

      how true how true.

    3. Re:the reason by Elbowgeek · · Score: 1

      Regarding the news Tweets, how is that any different than what RSS was supposed to do for us? The only difference is that Tweets are limited to 140 characters, therefore a step back in terms of information available.

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  16. useless by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can we just say that Twitter is public masturbation and be done with it?

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    1. Re:useless by Virak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd never sully the good name of exhibitionism in such a manner.

    2. Re:useless by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Would be nice if the term "tweet" hurries up and finishes its one-hit wonder cycle, going back to what it used to mean: the sound a bird makes.

    3. Re:useless by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Given that "masturbation" literally means "self-harm", I'd fully agree with calling tweets public masturbation.

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  17. Twitter by kenp2002 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Twitter (n):

    1: A service design to indulge the sense of self importance by posting information that history will care little for.

    2: A web site and infrastructure for passing small messages out to an open ended communication channel in which people what are extremely bored and track the likewise boring activities of others.

    3: A simple text exchange in which creative people and some regular expressions can generate a swarm-like information network to gauge personal activity. For instance:

    "by following a demographic of X a researcher can key in on how people feel about Y topic."

    "An automatic event scheduler system can be generated by people tweeting possible event dates in which subscribers through a script can vector in and select an event date in which all or a certain threshold of particpants can agree to."

    4: A method by which information is exchanged into a open ended channel. See Broadcast SMS 2.0

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  18. Either you are, or you aren't by Tyr_7BE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I tried blogging, that fizzled out the night I started. I tried microblogging using facebook and twitter, that petered out after a month or so. I can only assume that once we have nanoblogging, I won't be into that either. Some people need a forum to sound off to the world. Others, like me, are indifferent.

    1. Re:Either you are, or you aren't by albedoa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Some people need a forum to sound off to the world. Others, like me, are indifferent.

      He said, on a forum.

    2. Re:Either you are, or you aren't by Tyr_7BE · · Score: 1

      Yeah I was thinking that as I posted it. I think it's because forums are directional communication. You reply to something that is said to you, or you comment on a story. It's available to anyone who wants to read it, but it's not broadcast out.

      Sort of like the difference between having a conversation in a public place, and two people shouting at each other as loud as they can to make sure all their friends hear their conversation.

  19. Name reservation? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One possible reason for people to have unused accounts is simple to reserve the name. That is to say, to ensure that nobody can go around tweeting "in their name".

    1. Re:Name reservation? by basementman · · Score: 1

      It's not your average joe going out registering a name they might use in the future. It's a few name squatters who get a list of popular baby names and register a shit ton of accounts. Then hopefully in the future they can sell those accounts if twitter ever becomes more than just hype.

    2. Re:Name reservation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then Jesus better get his name reserved, and quick.

      Enough crap gets carried out 'in His name' as is, no need to add innane tweets to the list.

  20. Microblog by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    I feel like I'm just tweeting into the ether. And I have little or no interest in the various tweets floating around. Most regular blogs suck. So do streams of tweets.

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  21. This was my initial tweet by EdgeyEdgey · · Score: 1

    First!

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  22. One-tweet-whores? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a strange kind of bird!

  23. I don't understand the hate... by $1uck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really its a tool. Something like a cross between IM, a mailing list and a personal RSS feed. It has its own niche. If its not useful to you, don't use it. I can only presume all the hate comes from its sudden popularity and the rather stupid name (both of which bring to mind obnoxious teenage fads). Oh well I would think people would be smarter than just hating on a tool b/c of two superficial reasons.

    1. Re:I don't understand the hate... by Push+Latency · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This service is popular because it has removed the technology-related aspects of a function that has basically been around for decades. Now that folks can make use of the internet without needing to know *anything* at all, it's acceptible to the masses. Even BBCode was too much to ask; RSS is not really simple to simpletons; e-mail has spam, scary header data, etc. Twits want something with a dickhead name that lets them move on with pure use-ability, and no background tech-noise.

      It provides a "turn-key" CMS.

      I'd write a novel in Twits, just to piss-off the service, but I just can't stand it enough to want to use it to foil it.

    2. Re:I don't understand the hate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Also, don't hate a tool because you don't have a personal use for it.

      I'm a mail courier (I don't have constant access to a computer and I don't have an iPhone). I love twitter because it's like a open chat room where anyone can talk, but I get to choose who I listen to. I get to have conversations with friends (who may not have cell phones) via sms, and they can even be private messages. SMS has a much lower power cost than an always on java instant messenger. Plus, they are all stored in a centralized location so if they send me a neat link I can't check out on my phone's awful browser, I don't have to go through a process to get it on my home computer later. And while you may not care that I am announcing that I'm going to have lunch at Chipotle on Miramar rd, one of my friends may want to meet me there.

      People are valid in complaining about spam or marketers and other dregs, but does that mean we should be complaining about email or snail mail because I get sunday saver coupon books and ads?

    3. Re:I don't understand the hate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh well I would think people would be smarter than just hating on a tool b/c of two superficial reasons.

      Doubt it. This is Slashdot, afterall.

    4. Re:I don't understand the hate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I don't understand the hate"

      It's because of all the hype and buzz about a tool that is exactly as you described: niche.
      This causes confusion and frustration among the more tech savvy readers of slashdot who know there are better tools out there to accomplish the same tasks. So for them it's like "US" magazine of the web for slobbering fans who want to know what the stars of "The Hills" think about what they are having for lunch.

    5. Re:I don't understand the hate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My experience so far is it's a great way to get short commentary or requests to busy professionals/celebs whom you typically can't find an e-mail address for. Think about folks with 4,000 e-mails a week that they can't possibly respond to. A memorable tweet that makes an important point may stick in their memory better. It's certainly less intimidating than a full Inbox.
      Also it is probably helping (a little) toward improving the collective societal wit, since a good zinger is what makes most of the people worth following, worth following.

    6. Re:I don't understand the hate... by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
      Not hate - backlash.

      Mainly backlash against the arty, trendy, luvvy types who think tweeter is such a wonderful, novel concept and how they can't imagine why everyone isn't using it.

      As an example, the BBC has gone twitter mad. Half the programmes - and I don't just mean those aimed at the under 10's, seem to want you to follow them. Most beeb journalists have blogs, which they promote and mention whenever they go on air.

      Basically WE DON'T CARE If they're reporters, get on with reporting. Just face the camera and tell us stuff. Don't make us navigate to a website and then scroll through endless opinions from "Mavis, Doncaster. I thinl everyone should stop using oil. It's bad" and other such well thought out views. While it might appear as democratisation to them, or "getting in touch with the audience", or "hearing what YOU have to say", they should remember that opnions are like a$$ h***s, everyone has one, but you don't want to know about the other guy's - keep them to yourself.

      And that's the problem with twitter - people don't keep their lame, selfish, opinions to themselves.

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    7. Re:I don't understand the hate... by mlk · · Score: 1

      are better tools out there to accomplish the same tasks

      A tool like twitter is only as useful as the people on it.

      It does not matter if other tools are "better" as Twitter users are not after the tool, they are after the content.

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  24. Not News by Chris_Jefferson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This existed pre-internet. How many bought a diary and wrote one entry? Went out for a run, swim or to the gym once? Read a few pages of War and Peace? Only went to one foreign language lesson? Only bothered with a couple of piano/guitar/trumpet lessons?

    While twitter has many problems, the fact that the majority of people tend to play with a new thing and then stop isn't new, or news.

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    1. Re:Not News by jbacon · · Score: 1

      This existed pre-internet. How many bought a diary and wrote one entry? Went out for a run, swim or to the gym once? Read a few pages of War and Peace? Only went to one foreign language lesson? Only bothered with a couple of piano/guitar/trumpet lessons?

      While twitter has many problems, the fact that the majority of people tend to play with a new thing and then stop isn't new, or news.

      Story of my life...

    2. Re:Not News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I can see wha

    3. Re:Not News by owlnation · · Score: 1

      While twitter has many problems, the fact that the majority of people tend to play with a new thing and then stop isn't new, or news.

      Not sure that's the case. The Harvard study suggests that Twitter is different, or at least different from other flash-in-the-pan fads like MySpace, Facebook or blogging, in the it really is bleeding an enormous number of users compared to other social networking fads.

      I have to say, that while I know many technoliterate people, and many who use myspace or facebook, I know no-one whatsoever that is using, or has used, Twitter. It's seems to be at least 95% hype and nothing else.

    4. Re:Not News by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      Its an excellent marketing tool, but for non-corporations, it's medium is too limiting and doesn't really provide any extensible media tools or user generated , which is why Facebook (and to a lesser extent Myspace) have taken off so well.
       
      I think it's closer to 98% hype. I've never heard someone in a social setting mention twitter, and at work it's only the marketing type that talk about it. Reporters only like Twitter because they can search for #trends and get interviews easily. Facebook is here for at least another two years, having achieved critical mass. I think the number of twitter articles will fall off significantly. You don't see too many facebook articles because user's statuses aren't publicly viewable/searchable in most cases and reporters can't directly access them in the same way that they can with twitter.

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    5. Re:Not News by SwedishChef · · Score: 1

      Or bought a kayak and made one run down a river... yes I think the "one twit wonder" phenomenon is caused by this; at least in part. Plus, let's face it, most people really don't have that much to say. Interesting or not. Nothing you can do will prod them into actually saying something other than, "cool!".

      I got a Twitter account for the sole purpose of following Lance Armstrong's return to cycling and, because Armstrong is a really dedicated tweeter, it was worth it. I found, to my astonishment, that a bunch of people began to follow me. Turns out that paddling friends (kayakers) follow me

      Facebook, to me, is far more useful because my kids, their friends, and quite a few of my friends are on it and post frequently about what they're doing. So we can keep up easier than by making telephone calls. I even use it from my iphone (which I bought so I could do network stuff from my sport fishing boat anchored in the San Juans... at least I could once it was jailbroke).

      Twitter is clearly a fad... but as a bicycle race fan I find Lance Armstrong's writing to be an interesting inside look into that sport's international scene.

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  25. Is anyone's life really that interesting by Dr_Ken · · Score: 0

    Okay maybe Obama or someone like that but really who needs to communicate every damn detail of their daily existence to the world? Is is worth the effort? No wonder the huge drop off rate for this service.

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    "If you want to know what happens to you when you die, go look at some dead stuff."
  26. I wasn't just one Tweet by davmoo · · Score: 1

    I have a Twitter account that I used mainly to follow IT industry talking heads that I like to keep up with. I even managed to tweet every day or two myself.

    I haven't been back to Twitter since the day Oprah sent her first Tweet.

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  27. cjacobs001 by cjacobs001 · · Score: 1

    Just because someone tweets, does that mean someone else sees it ?

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  28. One Reason for the Hate: Marketing Bozos by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm finding a lot of resentment towards Twitter within my professional circle because of the notion, floated by the Marketing Suits, that one "simply must Twitter." A lot of these folks -- Olde Skool writers, comedians, entertainers -- feel they missed the boat when the MySpace wave hit, and don't want to make the mistake again. So they hold their noses and jump into every new social networking trend that the trendoids say they should be jumping into. Some days it's kind of like watching a platoon of Marines dressing in lemon chiffon gowns and working the room at a gay bachelor party because their intel has told them Al Quaeda just might be jumping out of the cake later, on other days it's like listening to the Pink Floyd disco album that was released in the late 70s/early 80s. Happily, I'm easily amused.

    1. Re:One Reason for the Hate: Marketing Bozos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... platoon of Marines dressing in lemon chiffon gowns and working the room at a gay bachelor party because their intel has told them Al Quaeda just might be jumping out of the cake later ...

      So you could say those marines are a little fond of chiffon in a wrist array?

    2. Re:One Reason for the Hate: Marketing Bozos by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 1

      Can we confine the hatred toward the marketing trendoids, then?

      I mean, credit where it's due, they're worthy of *lots* of scorn. But that's no reason to take out the genuinely interesting and useful things they congregate around.

      Surgical strikes. That's what's needed.

    3. Re:One Reason for the Hate: Marketing Bozos by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      Take off and nuke them from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.

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  29. If the "future" is Twitter, I'll miss out... by Evil+Shabazz · · Score: 1

    Twitter is the biggest piece of crap on the internet. Hooray for mass distribution of mind-numbingly mundane minutia.

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  30. "A suspension bridge made of pebbles" by adnonsense · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the end of TFA:

    Yes, it was built entirely out of 140-character messages, but the sum total of those tweets added up to something truly substantive, like a suspension bridge made of pebbles.

    Yes... (backs away slowly...) I'm sure a suspension bridge made of pebbles is just what society needs, now you drive over it while I stand there with the camcorder and a direct line to YouTube.

  31. Twitter's not completely useless by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I recently discovered a very cool use for Twitter. I was at a state team wrestling meet, and there wasn't any live coverage of the event, but there was WiFi. So I fired up my iPod Touch and started tweeting match results & team scores. They started using my tweets to update a statewide wrestling site. It was actually quite a neat experience, I had followers from all over the state who were interested in finding out the results.

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    1. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Push+Latency · · Score: 1

      Did you need to have the scores go up immediately? Could you have written them down on paper with a stylus, and posted them later?

    2. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you couldn't have done this on any other blogging/social networking sites that existed before Twitter.. why? If you would use, facebook, for example, you could've taken some pictures of the event and uploaded them to a group along with results. Twitter is a Facebook knockoff that does only one feature (status updates) halfway since it has a short maximum character length.

    3. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Did you need to have the scores go up immediately? Could you have written them down on paper with a stylus, and posted them later?

      An answer to your questions: Yes, no. It's the difference between "Here's what's happening" and "Here's what happened." I was doing live reporting from meet for all intents and purposes. If people weren't interested in knowing what was going on in close to real time, they'd just buy a newspaper or watch the news on TV later.

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    4. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by harl · · Score: 1

      This is an example of a good use of twitter.

      This is also an example of no compelling reason to use twitter for this. Email or text would both work in this situation.

      Honestly the only difference I see between twitter and email/text is a lack of security. The information originator cannot control who has access to the feed.

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    5. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by harl · · Score: 1

      What exactly would the problem have been if the scores had not gone up immediately? Something more than people would have to wait?

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    6. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Well I think that is part of the idea. You don't need to know the people receiving your tweets, you broadcast and people subscribe if they are interested. I'm not particularly interested in the concept, I prefer to rant without a character limit :), but some people like it.

    7. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is also an example of no compelling reason to use twitter for this. Email or text would both work in this situation.

      How so? Say 100 people wanted to get the live scores without waiting for the web page to update. The OP could've created a special-purpose mailing list, walked everyone through signing up, and then deleted it afterward. With texting, I suppose he could've stored all their numbers and texted each one every time someone won a match.

      Honestly the only difference I see between twitter and email/text is a lack of security. The information originator cannot control who has access to the feed.

      Well, openness and the fact that email and text are one-to-one channels while Twitter (and Facebook) are one-to-many. But other than the access model and the difference between direct communication and broadcasting, yes, they're very much alike.

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    8. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, thank the Ether for Twitter, since you couldn't possibly have used any other medium to convey those scores.

    9. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by harl · · Score: 1

      Huh?

      What's the difference between waiting for a web page to update and waiting for an email to hit your inbox? The only difference I see is what you're staring it.

      People know how to use email. Subscribing to a mail list is trivial. Last time I did it it involved sending the word subscribe to an email address. Everyone knows how to do this.

      You also set up your example is invalid due to the artificial limitations you put on it. Why would you create a one off list? Why not leave the list around for the team?

      You're saying rather than doing that trivial step it's some how easier to have people create yet another account, this time with a system they are not familiar with. How does that work exactly? Remember to think in terms of your "How do I use the mouse again?" uncle.

      Email is not one to one. You know you can put a semi colon followed by another address on the To: line right? What about the earlier mentioned email list?

      Texting, at least for me and I have a bare bare bones phone, is one to many. I can send the same text to multiple people just by selecting multiple recipients.

      I ask again. What advantages does it offer over existing technology other than being new?

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    10. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by harl · · Score: 1

      So you're saying it's just an exhibitionist or ego thing?

      The belief that you're somehow interesting enough to be listened to? By such a volume of people that security might get in the way and you want anyone to be able to opt-in?

      That explains why it's popular, but still doesn't explain how it's more useful than existing techs.

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    11. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's the difference between waiting for a web page to update and waiting for an email to hit your inbox?

      In this case, it's the difference between the OP sending the results to everyone listening, and one of those listeners taking the data and uploading it to a website. In other words, between primary and secondary sources.

      People know how to use email. Subscribing to a mail list is trivial. Last time I did it it involved sending the word subscribe to an email address. Everyone knows how to do this.

      Your mouse-incapable uncle surely doesn't.

      You also set up your example is invalid due to the artificial limitations you put on it. Why would you create a one off list? Why not leave the list around for the team?

      That's possible, sure, but not in the context of the OP's situation. He was able to send text messages but quite likely not able to set up a mailing list while sitting on the bleachers watching the wrestling.

      You're saying rather than doing that trivial step it's some how easier to have people create yet another account, this time with a system they are not familiar with.

      You mean, like creating an account on the hypothetical listserv? Why are you under the impression that subscribing to a listserv is inherently easier than subscribing to Twitter?

      Email is not one to one. You know you can put a semi colon followed by another address on the To: line right?

      I'm pretty new to email, but even I know that it's one-to-one. Adding multiple To: or Cc: or Bcc: entries is functionally identical to sending multiple copies of the message, unless you want to get into gray areas like single instance store on the recipient's end.

      Texting, at least for me and I have a bare bare bones phone, is one to many. I can send the same text to multiple people just by selecting multiple recipients.

      No. Texting is one-to-one, albeit repeatable. BTW, you might ask your carrier whether sending a single text to 50 recipients is billable as one message or 50. I bet the answer might surprise you.

      I ask again. What advantages does it offer over existing technology other than being new?

      Well, in the OP's case, it offered the rather huge advantage of letting him send one single SMS to Twitter instead of making him keep track of everyone who was interested so that he could notify each person individually, all without having to set up a listserv in advance and convincing everyone to subscribe to it. You might take note that despite your reasons why it shouldn't work, it did.

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    12. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by niktemadur · · Score: 1

      Tweets to update a statewide wrestling site.

      Harkens back to the days before live radio broadcasts of sporting events, when townsfolk loitered in front of the telegraph office during World Series games, most places had a billboard updating scores every inning. The luckier towns had a diamond-shaped mechanical board facing the street, some dude pulling levers to simulate the action for spectators.

      Picture a couple of baseball/tech geeks in suits and bowler hats, discussing hot shit technology in between updates (This just in: Boston Braves score run in top of ninth to overtake Philadelphia Athletics 1-0), one of them dismissing television as vaporware and declaring "just you wait until smell-a-vision comes around", then a Model T roars by the unpaved street, leaving the boys covered in a fine coat of dust. All very steampunk.

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    13. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by harl · · Score: 1

      Pedantic definition of one-to-one:

      Sure they're both one to one in implementation but that's meaningless. In every day usage they're one to many. The difference it academic and in no way noticeable to the end user.

      listserv:
      How is sending a single word to an address, with an existing technology easier than getting someone to create a new account on yet another service? All for one event?

      usage differences:
      So in one he's sending the data to a web site and people are looking at it with a client and in the other he's sending the data to a web site and people are looking at it with a client? Again I ask what exactly is the difference? You're flat wrong about him sending it to people directly.

      uncle:
      Your mouse incapable uncle also doesn't know how follow someone.

      invalid example redux:
      Again you put artificial limitations. You're saying he set up the twitter and had everyone follow it while at the meet? Without using any other tech?

      My point:
      This is using twitter to solve a problem not a problem solved by twitter. Twitter is merely different I've yet to see it do anything new or unique. It's simply an SMS broadcaster with an even lower character limit than normal.

      Well, in the OP's case, it offered the rather huge advantage of letting him send one single SMS to Twitter instead of making him keep track of everyone who was interested so that he could notify each person individually, all without having to set up a listserv in advance and convincing everyone to subscribe to it. You might take note that despite your reasons why it shouldn't work, it did.

      Huh? With multiple other solutions he also doesn't have to keep track. He makes no mention of not setting it up in advance. Sure he could use his personal feed but that brings up signal to noise issues for everyone following who doesn't give a fuck about wrestling. Twitter and list serve are functionally identical in this situation and listserv doesn't suffer from a 140 char limit thus allowing him to provide better coverage.

      Twitter is trendy but has no functional advantage.

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    14. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Inda · · Score: 1

      Not a sports fan, no? There's no shame in it. It's almost a religion to us though.

      We complain when a live video stream has a delay of more than a few seconds. My mother's husband is forever moaning about digital TV being two seconds slower than the analogue in his kitchen. It's all about now, not 10 seconds time. Being a gambling man who loves a punt - one who bets during matches - having any delay in the results would spoil my fun. An sport is all about fun, for me.

      BTW, I hate Twitter and all it stands for. I'm getting fed up of the ME ME ME, look at ME on the Internet. Yeah, yeah, I know, get off my lawn.

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    15. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Twitter is trendy but has no functional advantage.

      And yet, the people flocking to it think you're wrong. Apparently they see value in the way Twitter works compared to the other available tools and have chosen it.

      I run my own website and my own mailserver (complete with listserv), so it's pretty much equally convenient for me to post data to Twitter or my local services. However, everyone I know seems more willing to subscribe to one service (Twitter or Facebook; your pick) and follow all their friends from there than to subscribe to a separate RSS feed or listserv for each of their friends.

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    16. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by jubei · · Score: 1

      Your scenario seems like an ideal use of twitter.

      How did people know to follow you for scores?

    17. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's actually quite a common belief - untill not all that long ago, it was how LiveJournal was funded. There were enough people that would pay for an account that they would be able to fund the rest of the system off that.

      For viewing and commenting purposes, a free account and a paid-for account give identical functionality. It's only when it comes to the content or layout of the journal do paid accounts have advantages. So, those that want to be heard pay the money, not those that just want to read.

    18. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Hehe. I don't think it is more useful but more of an expansion on an existing idea. From what I've heard from the founders twitter was meant to be like a subscribable SMS service. The idea of using facebook for this stuff doesn't work too well. 1. The popular person has to friend the other person to get them the updates. 2. There was at one point a friend limit, though I think that has been removed. 3. CNN/Fox News anchors would be unable to say tweet/twitter so often which would eliminate half of their content.

    19. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by harl · · Score: 1

      Sure they find value. That's obvious or they wouldn't use it. You cannot claim that that value is from utility and not novelty.

      So you can follow me and Bob Barker on twitter with only one subscription/follow? How does that work exactly?

      If you want to follow 10 friends you have to subscribe to 10 things with Twitter. Same for each of them. That's 110 subs. With a listserv it's 11. How exactly is twitter or facebook less subs?

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    20. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Actually, with listserv it's indeterminate, because you can't assume that each one of those 10 people will want to follow all of the others. User1 subscribes to the "User2,User7,User9" list. User2 subscribes to "User3" list. Continue ad infinitum for larger values of 10. CNN has a popular Twitter account. Millions of people follow CNN, but I promise you that CNN doesn't want to follow each of them. Furthermore, I don't necessarily want to be on a list with someone solely because they're interested in the same random celebrity / company / organization / whatever.

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    21. Re:Twitter's not completely useless by harl · · Score: 1

      So you agree that listserv is no worse subscription wise than twitter, contrary to your previous post?

      The argument you make above about why listserv is indeterminate illustrates another problem. Quality.

      By having one feed per person rather than having one feed per group/topic/whatever a high quality feed will be the exception.

      For example let's look at the reasons given on twitter's home page.

      Eating soup? Research shows that moms want

      ego/exhibitionism Unless you're a professional food critic or chef no one cares what you're eating.

      Partying? Your friends may want to join you.Running late to a meeting? Your coâ"workers might find that useful.

      These two next to each other are hilarious. Work minutia is meaningless to the non-work followers. It's pure noise. Do you really want to send your party updates to your boss and family? Again it's noise, and possibly damaging.

      To summarize: Twitter gets the typical communication break down correct. Family, Friends, and Coworkers. The problem is the premise that any information pertinent to one group will be pertinent to all groups. This is a completely invalid premise. Information pertinent to one group could be harmful to your relationship with either of the other two groups. It removes all control you have about what you share.

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  32. Errors by MetinAustralia · · Score: 1

    Ok so I haven't been on Twitter for about 6 weeks now, but have they fixed all their errors? I kept getting pop-ups asking me for my password even after I was logged in!

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  33. Think of it as by Geekthing · · Score: 4, Funny

    I explain twitter as "Push" RSS. Grandma totally got it when I put it like that.

  34. Far more writers then readers by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    How many tweets never, ever get read?

    I can't help the feeling that most twitters, tweets or whatever the hell they're called, are merely written to satisfy the writer (in the same way that some people write diaries) as a cathartic experience - never expecting, nor intending them to be read.I would venture further, and say that a large number of blogs are exactly the same - but written by people who can't organise their thoughts into SMS sized bytes (or, vice-versa: tweeterers haven't got the attention span to write blog articles).

    Either way, once the initial ego-trip has been satisfied, and these people realise that no-one will ever bother to read their stuff, they come to terms with the obvious conclusion that nobody else cares what they think, as they never get any followers, or blog comments.

    Maybe what we need is a website called /dev/null where people can vent, in the certain knowledge that everthing is guaranteed to disappear as soon as it's written - thus removing the threat that when they grow up (if?) it won't come back to bite them in the bum.

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    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
  35. I'm a one-tweeter by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    I heard so much about the service, I finally signed up for it to see what all the hullabaloo was about. I found a desert in which people were wholly absorbed in themselves (sad) or trying to bask in the reflected glory from other twitter users (sadder, if possible). There were some worthwhile pieces there, but the signal-to-noise ratio was quite poor - nothing even close to the "quality" of slashdot's content. What's really disturbing is seeing respected journalists tossing off references to twitter like it's some service the entire world is familiar with.

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    Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
  36. Re:FR!ST? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ya missed a trick there. FRIST! AND LAST!

  37. Website is to Blog as RSS is to Twitter by Mandrel · · Score: 1

    Twitter democratizes feeds, just as blogs democratized websites.

    I never did like the polling aspect of RSS. At least Twitter allows updates to be pushed to a central server.

    But is Twitter then just like email from whitelisted, default-no-reply addresses, made low-latency with rapid server polling, where the message fits in the subject line, plus an easy way to join and leave personal mailing lists.

    The no-reply feature does allow people to talk without listening, which I'm not sure is a good thing. But blogs are also often like that.

    1. Re:Website is to Blog as RSS is to Twitter by emurphy42 · · Score: 1

      It's often used that way, but it's not the only useful model; it was first explained to me as multi-cast IM, and that's mostly how I use it (kinda like Facebook minus all the stupid apps).

  38. Not true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    While you can't subscribe to a tweet stream, you can still access it without having to sign up.
    See http://twitter.com/aplusk Or you can get the RSS feed: http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/19058681.rss

  39. Surprised? by Time+Ed · · Score: 1

    The first time I heard about Twitter I thought, yeah, a public version of Slashdot sigs. It was only a matter of time...

  40. Sell Out Now! by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    I just don't see this lasting more than another year

    Exactly. If the people that own Twitter are smart, they are seriously looking for s buyout right now, before the value drops to IP fire-sale prices.

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    If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
  41. shouldn't that be by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

    one twit wonders?

  42. what kind of donuts are you offering? by Filter · · Score: 1

    what kind of donuts are you offering?

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    "better ways of doing things eventually just replace the inferior things" - Linus Torvalds 09-08-07

  43. Presented without comment by levicivita · · Score: 1

    My one and only twitter comment from months ago:

    OMG twitter is like SOOO cool I will never use anything else EVER again It is now my home page I will log in every day and post everything

  44. Getting sick of it by TheSync · · Score: 1

    If I hear one more person on television say "We're tweeting at..." I'm going to go mad!

    I do, however, believe that Twitter is the IRC of the Web 2.0 generation.

  45. Single Tweeter: AbrahamLincon by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I created the AbrahamLincon user in response to a back-and-forth discussion on political rhetoric a friend and I were engaged in. (Yeah, in my haste I dropped the 'l' in the last name. Oops.) He was using the Lincoln/Douglas debates as an example of the high quality of political debate that our country once valued, and from which we had fallen into sound bites. He asked what possible message of political worth could be tweeted in 140 chars.

    As an experiment, I created AbrahamLincon, reviewed the text of the Gettysburg address, and distilled it to 140 characters. I won't say it succeeded or failed, but it was a fun experiment in high-density verbiage.

    I might do the same with other speeches. Or it might stay a one-tweet wonder. It was fun, though, and I hope Mr. Lincoln wouldn't mind.

  46. Print media sometimes drops to Twitter level by Animats · · Score: 1

    At least there's a length limit on Twitter.

    Yesterday, this article by Jon Caroll appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle. This guy is a paid columnist. He wrote about forty column-inches about taking his car to a car wash. Nothing exciting happened; he just washed his car. This is how far down the print media have come.

    The Chronicle is considering shutting down their print version. This guy may not have much of a career left.

  47. CHARLIE CHARLIE CHARLIE by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    GROUPS 10... A34T2 42Y89 LE53R GBN12 9054E L3L0B M788Z 963YK 31M11 F44BN

    END TRANSMISSION

  48. 140 characters by andreatwork · · Score: 2, Funny

    The problem is that 140 characters is not enough to write everything we are trying to convey n we all know that incomplete tweets may cause

  49. Well for people like myself... by HerculesMO · · Score: 1

    Who aren't famous or interesting (I guess), it's a good way to 'follow' those people whom interest you.

    I follow the twitter updates of Kevin Rose (Digg), Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails), Paul Thurrott (WinSuperSite) and a handful of others. Often I'll get information that is kind of '0-day', rather than wait for the blogs or media to pick up on it, so it's nice to get that kind of realtime update.

    That, and if you do tweet them something interesting, you actually can have a dialogue with them that would otherwise never exist.

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    The price is always right if someone else is paying.
  50. my fav from personal experience by dannynono · · Score: 1

    sis-in-law's first (and last) tweet: I'm such a beginner on Twitter! what are the cool things to do here?

  51. I think you meant by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    If someone tweets in cyberspace, and noone is subscribed does it matter?

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    How much is your data worth? Back it up now.
  52. I've been through the Twitter stages by Mean+Variance · · Score: 1

    I've successfully worked through the necessary stages of Twitter: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.

    Some tricks I've learned to consume and produce to Twitter effectively:

    1. Find some people or businesses to follow that you "might" be interested in. Be aware your choices are not carved in stone. Change them around. Suggestions: @LeoLaporte, @dane (know in the bay area), your local newspaper.

    2. Install one of the many clients that make it easy to follow tweets without opening a browser but will not annoy. I used to use TwitterFox, an add-on for Firefox. Now I use the Digsby Twitter client.

    3. Follow some businesses you like. I follow a few restaurants who post specials and other notes.

    4. My local newspaper, The Fresno Bee, has some good Twitter users who post interesting links to local news, cultural events, etc.

    5. If something you're following is starting to annoy (especially when they tweet 5 times in a row to build a thought), stop following them. I'm talking to you: PTI, Buy.com, LebatardShow.

    6. If some stranger says they're following you, there's no reason you have to reciprocate.

    I've learned to use it to get a collective feed of real-time events. As long as it's non-intrusive and I can control what's relevant, I'm fine with it. If it disappeared tomorrow, so what. Some other novel idea is waiting to take its place.

    I'd like to see some more constructive use of the #hashtag concept, maybe some form of registry. Just today while sitting in traffic, I was thinking there could be hashtags for drivers to communicate the real state of traffic. I find traffic reporting even with sensors to be of marginal value.

    @joe1 #bay101s tied up at Lawrence Expressway

    @jane2 #bay880n Sunol Grade was fast at 3p today

    Also would like the skiers to give real time snow reports.

  53. Re:I think you meant by cjacobs001 · · Score: 1

    ahh, ohh, yess.

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  54. Tweets are to bloggers what blogs are to authors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  55. wrong sections by nikanth · · Score: 1

    This belongs to idle not technology

  56. Twitter has only one advantage by dugeen · · Score: 1

    Twitter is just like Facebook would be if it only had the status update. Its only other advantage is that you don't need to invent a real-sounding name to sign up.