because if this comes to pass, there WILL be murders. This isn't some corporation vs. corporation fight. SCO is trying to take over something that people have invested lots of blood and sweat into and now they're trying to penalize the (possibly) most used search engine out there for not paying them any attention. They might as well go over to England and tell them that rugby sucks if they have that much of a death wish.
They're charging $299 for their standard workstation desktop. That's right up there with XP Pro (pricewise).
Now if they had charged maybe 75 bucks instead of 300 bucks and included X hours of phone support, X hours of over-the-internet support, and 2 years of automatic patching that would be fairly cool, especially for people who are paying MS 300 bucks every 2 years for a shit OS and no support. But 300 dollars and 1 year of support? They could do better.
"I don't think Diebold would allow it," she said. "It's their proprietary code." --Linda Lamone, State Elections Board Director.
Okay, so has she not seen or even heard of the leaked e-mails from Diebold? Maybe someone should send them to her en masse?
Anyways...
That excuse is bulls#!t. If they have their way, EVERYONE'S elections will run on their systems. Would I would want someone other than Diebold to review every inch of that code? YA DAMN SKIPPY! I don't want my elections run by some clearly untrustworthy company who is a large contributor to ANY party running the election systems in this country.
This is another good reason to suggest open-sourced stuff for elections. The code would be open, and ideally it wouldn't be prejudiced toward any party. (Then again, some republicans in office may cry foul because it doesn't benefit any of their "constituents". ^_^)
So let me get this straight. You're basically saying that we should all be glad for what we have right now and not say anything until we get to where China's at?
You're crazy.
I don't want this country to get anywhere NEAR where China's at now.
"It's not a declaration of war; it's a declaration of obvious needs for the network to mature..."
Hmm, let's see. You want to change the way the internet runs for your benefit, screw up the way that some e-mail filter systems work and basically cause chaos on the internet?
Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHA!
Kiss your company's existence goodbye, Sclavos. You have declared war on the internet by trying to take over it's operations.
Seriously, do we have to threaten some representatives with being thrown out to get the laws changed to stop this kind of BS? Is there any way people other than IBM can get the courts involved in getting them to show what they've got?
Seriously, this guy needs to be taken down a couple of notches. Blake and his ilk come around talking smack about how they own code in linux, and they don't show $#!t. I'm tired of this crap. They need to either put up and show some code or the cocky bastards should be sent into fedreal PMITA prison.
If the "XP filesystem" comment gave you that impression that I thought FAT32 and XP were the same, I apologize. I'm going off information from when I installed a 80 gig drive for a friend and it came out 74.something gigs with nothing installed on it. Granted 9 gigs out of 120 isn't that much but to me that's still a nice chunk of space I could use for games and whatnot.
"Operating System Overhead uses a negligible amount of drive space. We note that operating system take a portion of drive capacity for use as file tables. A typical drive utilizes 70 MegaBytes for this function, which is not significant on a drive with a capacity of 120GB. (0.07GB out of a total capacity of 120GB)."
Hey Jimmy, assuming you're using FAT32 as your XP filesystem, which uses 73.8 MB of space for every gigabyte, not just 73.8 megs one time, that adds up to roughly 8,856MB of space used for the filesystem. Which on a labeled 123.5 GB drive, leaves you with roughly 115GB of space! Wow! The HD manufacturers were right!
So if this goes through as written, it would mean that linux users could install the installshield thing legally through wine to install windows programs?
They would have to have something set up that can operate outside of iTunes to handle the transfer of ownership over these files. Maybe they should start to ship licenses on demand for individual files. Nothing huge, just business-card sized licenses to prove ownership.
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on Thursday August 14, @02:40PM from the them's-fightin'-words dept.
AnonymousCoward writes "According to no real open evidence, SpeeDFreaK_5 declares SCO's is full of s**t. When asked about any evidence he may have to prove his views, he replied "Evidence!?! Who the F**K needs evidence? Sure as hell not the people buying SCO's stock!" SCO's claims that the GPL violates the US copyright law and is thus null and void, declared by me!" Speedfreak's legal position isn't too crazy to believe: The GPL allows unlimited copies, the copyright law allows one. Therefore, the SCO's claims are invalid, and they are now the world's prison b*tch. Apparently, they are trying to argue that the copyright law, in giving consumers the right to make one backup of their software without any permission from the copyright holder, outlaws any contractual agreement that allows users to make more than one copy." In response, SpeeDFreaK says, "Screw SCO and everything their stock-pumping, extorting, lying, FUD spreading, dying a$$es represent."
On a more serious note, since they released their own brand of linux under the GPL, shouldn't their claims be null and void?
No, I'll just kick your ass before you come anywhere near my house.:)
Seriously though, that's a freaky comment coming from someone who is about to run one of the most influential parts of the music industry. Music is a great american tradition. Not protecting property rights. A necessary part of this country, but not a f**king tradition the family with 2.3 kids would participate in.
"Although Bainwol has little experience inside the music industry, he brings deep connections to the Republican Party, something the RIAA has largely lacked under Rosen's leadership."
Hmm. Pre-paid senators...
Already I see there's gonna be some problems with this. Mainly the RIAA getting laws that people know aren't kosher passed. And possibly a little too much influence on some issues...
And before I forget:
"What could be more rewarding than helping to promote two great American traditions: music and property rights?"
When the F**K did property rights become a "great american tradition"?!?
There's nothing that says you have to hear crap about Iraq. You could move on to the next post or turn of the TV/Radio. But some people won't take the half-truths and constantly changing facts. I'm not saying that's all that it is, but there's enough to keep people asking. Hell, they only now found out who really put the falsified evidence into the State of the Union address. Also, they have yet to settle on one reason for invading Iraq. At least the president has yet to settle on a reason. I'm not saying it's some huge government conspiracy, but I wouldn't rule it out. Maybe clandestine movements is a better term.:) The Government did give Iraq chemical weapons in the 80s. Yeah, this doesn't have anything to do with the RIAA, but you brought it up in your previous post, citing a liberal lean to the parent post and how wrong it was. I'm not saying all republicans are bad, but a lot of sh*t has gone wrong during this administration.
And I didn't see his post really alienating people. He didn't say "all republicans suck! don't follow me!" in his post. He just used those as an example since they were known. But like I said in my previous post, this is not something that can be divided into left and right. Democrats vote something in that's bad, it hurts everyone, not just republicans and vice versa. If you consider yourself alienated because of his examples, try to lighten up.
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because if this comes to pass, there WILL be murders. This isn't some corporation vs. corporation fight. SCO is trying to take over something that people have invested lots of blood and sweat into and now they're trying to penalize the (possibly) most used search engine out there for not paying them any attention. They might as well go over to England and tell them that rugby sucks if they have that much of a death wish.
They're charging $299 for their standard workstation desktop. That's right up there with XP Pro (pricewise).
Now if they had charged maybe 75 bucks instead of 300 bucks and included X hours of phone support, X hours of over-the-internet support, and 2 years of automatic patching that would be fairly cool, especially for people who are paying MS 300 bucks every 2 years for a shit OS and no support. But 300 dollars and 1 year of support? They could do better.
"I don't think Diebold would allow it," she said. "It's their proprietary code." --Linda Lamone, State Elections Board Director.
Okay, so has she not seen or even heard of the leaked e-mails from Diebold? Maybe someone should send them to her en masse?
Anyways...
That excuse is bulls#!t. If they have their way, EVERYONE'S elections will run on their systems. Would I would want someone other than Diebold to review every inch of that code? YA DAMN SKIPPY! I don't want my elections run by some clearly untrustworthy company who is a large contributor to ANY party running the election systems in this country.
This is another good reason to suggest open-sourced stuff for elections. The code would be open, and ideally it wouldn't be prejudiced toward any party. (Then again, some republicans in office may cry foul because it doesn't benefit any of their "constituents". ^_^)
So let me get this straight. You're basically saying that we should all be glad for what we have right now and not say anything until we get to where China's at?
You're crazy.
I don't want this country to get anywhere NEAR where China's at now.
that all versions of Windows other than XP are soon to be obsolete?
And you shall recieve.
Try playing Gran Turismo 3 with Dance Dance Revolution pads. Against a drunk person, with said DDR pad.
Fun times, fun times.
It appears that there is a Free Trade of the Americas website. They also have links to who to call if you feel the need to sound off. I trust we all know what to do with this information. :)
"It's not a declaration of war; it's a declaration of obvious needs for the network to mature..."
Hmm, let's see. You want to change the way the internet runs for your benefit, screw up the way that some e-mail filter systems work and basically cause chaos on the internet?
Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHA!
Kiss your company's existence goodbye, Sclavos. You have declared war on the internet by trying to take over it's operations.
You WILL NOT win.
Seriously, do we have to threaten some representatives with being thrown out to get the laws changed to stop this kind of BS? Is there any way people other than IBM can get the courts involved in getting them to show what they've got?
Seriously, this guy needs to be taken down a couple of notches. Blake and his ilk come around talking smack about how they own code in linux, and they don't show $#!t. I'm tired of this crap. They need to either put up and show some code or the cocky bastards should be sent into fedreal PMITA prison.
I wish those people would just be quiet!!! YEAH!! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!
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If the "XP filesystem" comment gave you that impression that I thought FAT32 and XP were the same, I apologize. I'm going off information from when I installed a 80 gig drive for a friend and it came out 74.something gigs with nothing installed on it. Granted 9 gigs out of 120 isn't that much but to me that's still a nice chunk of space I could use for games and whatnot.
"Operating System Overhead uses a negligible amount of drive space. We note that operating system take a portion of drive capacity for use as file tables. A typical drive utilizes 70 MegaBytes for this function, which is not significant on a drive with a capacity of 120GB. (0.07GB out of a total capacity of 120GB)."
Hey Jimmy, assuming you're using FAT32 as your XP filesystem, which uses 73.8 MB of space for every gigabyte, not just 73.8 megs one time, that adds up to roughly 8,856MB of space used for the filesystem. Which on a labeled 123.5 GB drive, leaves you with roughly 115GB of space! Wow! The HD manufacturers were right!
So if this goes through as written, it would mean that linux users could install the installshield thing legally through wine to install windows programs?
They would have to have something set up that can operate outside of iTunes to handle the transfer of ownership over these files. Maybe they should start to ship licenses on demand for individual files. Nothing huge, just business-card sized licenses to prove ownership.
You might as well just pay the extra $245 for the 500GB model.
The chef is swedish and he says "Bork! Bork! Bork!" not Mork. You must not read slashdot enough.
You sure? I could've sworn they were doing some LSD and had a REALLY bad trip...
Posted by Somefool on Thursday August 14, @02:40PM
from the them's-fightin'-words dept.
AnonymousCoward writes "According to no real open evidence, SpeeDFreaK_5 declares SCO's is full of s**t. When asked about any evidence he may have to prove his views, he replied "Evidence!?! Who the F**K needs evidence? Sure as hell not the people buying SCO's stock!" SCO's claims that the GPL violates the US copyright law and is thus null and void, declared by me!" Speedfreak's legal position isn't too crazy to believe: The GPL allows unlimited copies, the copyright law allows one. Therefore, the SCO's claims are invalid, and they are now the world's prison b*tch. Apparently, they are trying to argue that the copyright law, in giving consumers the right to make one backup of their software without any permission from the copyright holder, outlaws any contractual agreement that allows users to make more than one copy." In response, SpeeDFreaK says, "Screw SCO and everything their stock-pumping, extorting, lying, FUD spreading, dying a$$es represent."
On a more serious note, since they released their own brand of linux under the GPL, shouldn't their claims be null and void?
I don't remember hearing about "(intellectual) Property Rights Fest 2003"...which I'm assuming he's referring to IP.
No, I'll just kick your ass before you come anywhere near my house. :)
Seriously though, that's a freaky comment coming from someone who is about to run one of the most influential parts of the music industry. Music is a great american tradition. Not protecting property rights. A necessary part of this country, but not a f**king tradition the family with 2.3 kids would participate in.
"Although Bainwol has little experience inside the music industry, he brings deep connections to the Republican Party, something the RIAA has largely lacked under Rosen's leadership."
Hmm. Pre-paid senators...
Already I see there's gonna be some problems with this. Mainly the RIAA getting laws that people know aren't kosher passed. And possibly a little too much influence on some issues...
And before I forget:
"What could be more rewarding than helping to promote two great American traditions: music and property rights?"
When the F**K did property rights become a "great american tradition"?!?
There's nothing that says you have to hear crap about Iraq. You could move on to the next post or turn of the TV/Radio. But some people won't take the half-truths and constantly changing facts. I'm not saying that's all that it is, but there's enough to keep people asking. Hell, they only now found out who really put the falsified evidence into the State of the Union address. Also, they have yet to settle on one reason for invading Iraq. At least the president has yet to settle on a reason. I'm not saying it's some huge government conspiracy, but I wouldn't rule it out. Maybe clandestine movements is a better term. :) The Government did give Iraq chemical weapons in the 80s. Yeah, this doesn't have anything to do with the RIAA, but you brought it up in your previous post, citing a liberal lean to the parent post and how wrong it was. I'm not saying all republicans are bad, but a lot of sh*t has gone wrong during this administration.
And I didn't see his post really alienating people. He didn't say "all republicans suck! don't follow me!" in his post. He just used those as an example since they were known. But like I said in my previous post, this is not something that can be divided into left and right. Democrats vote something in that's bad, it hurts everyone, not just republicans and vice versa. If you consider yourself alienated because of his examples, try to lighten up.