Who do you think your fooling? You are an admitted thief. You weren't going to buy it in any case. You won't even post under your own handle. Anonymous Coward seems appropriate.
You can boil down what he has to say into3 categories. The first is I can't wrap my head around any thing except windows, so you have to become windows. The second is I haven't tried a modern distro so I will just complain about how some things used to be. The third is things he is just plain wrong about.
Linux development moves at the speed of light compared to other OS's but that is one of it's strengths. Imagine if we had stayed stable at kernel 2.2 how good the world would be? Not
Lets look at just one of his rants like his versioning plan. I can install RPMS as a transaction. They package all the config files with any changes you have made and can be rolled back. This is far cooler than any thing I have seen on any other OS. You can also use CVS, Subversion, git for configuration files or you can use back up programs like bacula, amanda etc. You can also do snap shots with LVM or you can mirror or a billion other choices. On top of that he already acknowledged that what he wants will soon be an option so why is he wasting every ones time complaining about it?
Linux is growing faster than any other OS so maybe, just maybe it isn't as broken as he wants to make it sound.
>>"I would like to see a new OSS license that prevents forking, but allows me to read the source code, submit patches upstream, and recompile."
That by definition would be against every thing that OSS stands for. What you are talking about is proprietary software. Microsoft could do this with any thing that they own for example with out the need of yet another licence. They choose not to.Not many developers want to contribute their time and money to making some one else richer without any thing coming back.
Linux isn't Enterprise grade when it is run by the propriatary "Linux is Unix" momos that then try to run it like what ever OS they happened to know before. Hint pkgadd add doesn't work and adding a pkgadd symlink to up2date or yum is just stupid. I have gone into many companies to clean up the problems with their Linux boxes and the problems are almost always caused by the the admins trying to run their boxs like it is another OS rather than following Linux best practices.
If you allready know Linux which is growing, why would you want to invest a lot of time learning an OS that very likely won't be around in a year. The stock value of Sun is now lower than the cash on hand. That makes them prime for a break up or buy out. There is a very real chance that SCO will be around longer than Sun will. So if I am buying new hardware why would I want to buy from Sun with the chance that thy will be gone before the support period is over? And why would I want to waste time learning an OS with no future?
They could pull their programmers. But then they wouldn't get the contributions of the non Sun developers. Currently a lot of those submissions are submitted up stream at the request of the distros etc. But that could change quickly and the patches get submitted down stream instead.
If they tried to strip out features the code would just get forked. Actually it already has been by Novel and others.
I had a IS manager that every time I caught him going into the server room I would run this on a server in there. He would always come out going "One of your servers is beeping". I would ask him to show me and of course when he would drag me into the server room nothing was happening because I wasn't running the command. So I would just give him the Ya, sure look. After a couple of weeks of keeping it to my self I told the other admins and we all started doing it. Some times you just have to make your own fun.;-)
You don't need Netcraft to tell you that. Just pull up google financial, yahoo financial or any other and plug in java as the symbol. You don't loose >80% of your companies value year after year and survive. At the rate their share price has been dropping for the last 2 years their share price will be zero in less than 3 months. That won't actually happen as they should be bought up very soon.
The only question is by who? Oracle, HP, IBM or one of the hardware giants they rebrand and resell? My money is on HP who will then get rid of Solaris as they all ready have HP-UX.
The ogg names really needs to go. I would have a far easier time getting people to buy into ogg if I could call it some thing that didn't make them knee jerk right to "What?"
The other thing that has been keeping the open codecs down was the fact that you couldn't lock people in with it. On the audio side I expect to see that change as DRM is going away. On the video side they are still trying to live the good old days. That is starting to swing around as well. But there is a big learning curve yet.
As FISA has only every denied one wire tap and there is no requirement to apply to FISA before you start wire tapping it is hard to make the case that FISA is an impediment to any thing. In fact it is a completly toothless watch dog.
4.1 is not worse than 4.0. There was a boat load of functionality put back in for 4.1, I find the biggest problem with the 4 series of KDE is that there just hasn't been enough communication of why the changes were done and how the new desktop is supposed to work. I know every one involved with KDE is busy but communicating how the fuctionality of the new desk top is supposed to work would go a long way to cooling off the critisism.
I didn't understand 4.0 at all. It just seemed completely broken to me compared to 4.0. But now that I am onto 4.1 and have done some more learning I have to say that I now have a desktop that works better than Vista does and looks just as slick as aero.
The move to the 4 series of releases of KDE gave us a huge jump in potential but it was also very ambitious. For KDE to focus on 4 makes a lot of sense but I don't think it should have been the KDE desktop in Fedora 9. Whether the distro guys got to ambitious or the KDE developers over sold what 4.0 would be I don't know. But every one should know that if you are running the latest and greatest Fedora you are going to be out on the bleeding edge. If you don't want that just run one version back.
The bigger problem than the including KDE 4 is the way Fedora is always trying to kill off your KDE install and replace it with the steaming pile Gnome. If all you were to take was Grub and the kernel as your install Fedora and the rest of RedHat would make sure that you also got GDM, Evolution and a boat load of other i386 Gnome crap with it. I mean really why is GDM the default desk top manager for KDE on Fedora? rpm -e gdm should be the first step after installing Fedora with the KDE desktop.
I agree with this analyst who thinks there is a miss translation here. We know what current disk production is so Sony must as well and it isn't any where near what is being reported here.
Every one had given up on any thing other than IE being usable on the web. IT departments had to do extra work to get any kind of non IE browser to work where as IE became part of the desktop. A dot com I worked for even stopped testing against Netscape. Every one was saying the end is nigh. Now a few years later Mozzila is on tear.
I may be naive but I am having a hard time seeing Apple closing this up. If they did then some one in the free software world would be tempted to write some thing new. Apple would then be in the position where all of *nix could be moving in a different direction and they could be left on their own with CUPS. That would make it harder to get printer support from vendors not easier. They could hurt others for a while but not forever. Steve Jobs is a fan of all things propriatary at heart but he has to know this would be suicide. It would be nice to see them get on the record about what their intentions are though.
There is a saying. You become what you fight. I am a huge Linux supporter and it has been my sole desktop for 5 years, but I don't in any way think that Linux HAS TO dominate. I think it would be just as sad if there was only one OS as if there was only one type of car you could buy. Not every one has the same requirments. ERS seems to think that the only purpose of a desktop computer is to play movies. I have an easy $10,000 in my home theater. The last thing I want to do with a desk top is watch crappy low res trailers. So for me I don't need an OS bloated with A/V codecs.
One impresion I was left with as I read the article is that ERS must not have actually used Linux in a few years because a lot of the things he mentioned as problems have long since been eliminted. I couldn't help but notice that his plan conveniently side stepped the whole issue of DRM. How far down this path do you want to go? The reason why DCSS and the codecs got traction is that they are intertwined with DRM. Some thing else he forgot to mention is that we are in another paradigm shift. The battle over the next high capacity disk is on and has the potential to hand Microsoft a true monopoly or break their back, depending on what format wins. Linux isn't in this battle alone. All our allies may not be our freinds. There are lots of companies that are tired of being bullied and they are our allies.
ERS also forgot to mention that the US supreme court is taking a hard look at patents right now and their decision could have major implications for software patents. This could make ERS's plans superflous. Some thing else to keep in mind is that the codec is rather a US centric problem. China is coming up with codecs all the time and has the muscle to make some of them stick. They may not be the big thing in the US tomorrow but if say China, India and Indonesia decided to get behind a particular codec their combuned might could make it a mandatory inclusion in any OS, be it propriatary or open source.
A previous poster mentioned that Linux users don't pay any thing etc. That is wrong. Some do pay nothing. But others pay in code, in documentation, in training etc. The cost for RedHat to put out version 1.0 of their distro was a lot less than it was for Microsoft to put out say Win2K. Want to guess why? Linux doesn't have to win, it may not win. But open source certainly will.
Now any time an American leaves his country you will be able to easily identify them by this goofy tag in their arm. Cries of "No I'm not an American, I'm a Canadian" can easily be dispelled.
This will make the terrorist or any one else who wants to harm Americans ( and there are plenty of groups that fall into that category ) lives so much easier. Want evidence I kidnapped Joe Blow? Heres his RFID number.
Maybe Americans will just start staying at home.
# I am not a number I am free man!!!
This is and isn't as nefarious as every one is making this out to be.
It isn't because the courts have told Microsoft to start licencing their patents that allow other systems to interact with Windows machines. They are just doing what the court has ordered.
But on the other hand Bill and crew have never thought that they should be required to follow the dictates of the courts. So if they can follow the letter of the law but stick it to the courts and others at the same time that is poetic justice in their minds. This probably will PO judge Urquhart but not enough that she will do any thing about it. It isn't every day you get to tweek the judges nose and get away with it. I think the EU will have a different take on it though.
From my stand point I hope this makes the studios and CE companies take a long hard look at what could happen with WM9. As well if FAT is a good patent to enforce why not joliet and some others. I don't think Microsoft is charging any where near enough for these patents either.If it is really valubale crank up the price.
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Who do you think your fooling? You are an admitted thief. You weren't going to buy it in any case. You won't even post under your own handle. Anonymous Coward seems appropriate.
Linux development moves at the speed of light compared to other OS's but that is one of it's strengths. Imagine if we had stayed stable at kernel 2.2 how good the world would be? Not
Lets look at just one of his rants like his versioning plan. I can install RPMS as a transaction. They package all the config files with any changes you have made and can be rolled back. This is far cooler than any thing I have seen on any other OS. You can also use CVS, Subversion, git for configuration files or you can use back up programs like bacula, amanda etc. You can also do snap shots with LVM or you can mirror or a billion other choices. On top of that he already acknowledged that what he wants will soon be an option so why is he wasting every ones time complaining about it?
Linux is growing faster than any other OS so maybe, just maybe it isn't as broken as he wants to make it sound.
>>"I would like to see a new OSS license that prevents forking, but allows me to read the source code, submit patches upstream, and recompile." That by definition would be against every thing that OSS stands for. What you are talking about is proprietary software. Microsoft could do this with any thing that they own for example with out the need of yet another licence. They choose not to.Not many developers want to contribute their time and money to making some one else richer without any thing coming back.
Linux isn't Enterprise grade when it is run by the propriatary "Linux is Unix" momos that then try to run it like what ever OS they happened to know before. Hint pkgadd add doesn't work and adding a pkgadd symlink to up2date or yum is just stupid. I have gone into many companies to clean up the problems with their Linux boxes and the problems are almost always caused by the the admins trying to run their boxs like it is another OS rather than following Linux best practices.
If you allready know Linux which is growing, why would you want to invest a lot of time learning an OS that very likely won't be around in a year. The stock value of Sun is now lower than the cash on hand. That makes them prime for a break up or buy out. There is a very real chance that SCO will be around longer than Sun will. So if I am buying new hardware why would I want to buy from Sun with the chance that thy will be gone before the support period is over? And why would I want to waste time learning an OS with no future?
They could pull their programmers. But then they wouldn't get the contributions of the non Sun developers. Currently a lot of those submissions are submitted up stream at the request of the distros etc. But that could change quickly and the patches get submitted down stream instead. If they tried to strip out features the code would just get forked. Actually it already has been by Novel and others.
I had a IS manager that every time I caught him going into the server room I would run this on a server in there. He would always come out going "One of your servers is beeping". I would ask him to show me and of course when he would drag me into the server room nothing was happening because I wasn't running the command. So I would just give him the Ya, sure look. After a couple of weeks of keeping it to my self I told the other admins and we all started doing it. Some times you just have to make your own fun. ;-)
Need to know the serial number of a server or bios version or many other things dmidecode is your friend.
You don't need Netcraft to tell you that. Just pull up google financial, yahoo financial or any other and plug in java as the symbol. You don't loose >80% of your companies value year after year and survive. At the rate their share price has been dropping for the last 2 years their share price will be zero in less than 3 months. That won't actually happen as they should be bought up very soon. The only question is by who? Oracle, HP, IBM or one of the hardware giants they rebrand and resell? My money is on HP who will then get rid of Solaris as they all ready have HP-UX.
The ogg names really needs to go. I would have a far easier time getting people to buy into ogg if I could call it some thing that didn't make them knee jerk right to "What?" The other thing that has been keeping the open codecs down was the fact that you couldn't lock people in with it. On the audio side I expect to see that change as DRM is going away. On the video side they are still trying to live the good old days. That is starting to swing around as well. But there is a big learning curve yet.
As FISA has only every denied one wire tap and there is no requirement to apply to FISA before you start wire tapping it is hard to make the case that FISA is an impediment to any thing. In fact it is a completly toothless watch dog.
4.1 is not worse than 4.0. There was a boat load of functionality put back in for 4.1, I find the biggest problem with the 4 series of KDE is that there just hasn't been enough communication of why the changes were done and how the new desktop is supposed to work. I know every one involved with KDE is busy but communicating how the fuctionality of the new desk top is supposed to work would go a long way to cooling off the critisism.
I didn't understand 4.0 at all. It just seemed completely broken to me compared to 4.0. But now that I am onto 4.1 and have done some more learning I have to say that I now have a desktop that works better than Vista does and looks just as slick as aero. The move to the 4 series of releases of KDE gave us a huge jump in potential but it was also very ambitious. For KDE to focus on 4 makes a lot of sense but I don't think it should have been the KDE desktop in Fedora 9. Whether the distro guys got to ambitious or the KDE developers over sold what 4.0 would be I don't know. But every one should know that if you are running the latest and greatest Fedora you are going to be out on the bleeding edge. If you don't want that just run one version back. The bigger problem than the including KDE 4 is the way Fedora is always trying to kill off your KDE install and replace it with the steaming pile Gnome. If all you were to take was Grub and the kernel as your install Fedora and the rest of RedHat would make sure that you also got GDM, Evolution and a boat load of other i386 Gnome crap with it. I mean really why is GDM the default desk top manager for KDE on Fedora? rpm -e gdm should be the first step after installing Fedora with the KDE desktop.
I agree with this analyst who thinks there is a miss translation here. We know what current disk production is so Sony must as well and it isn't any where near what is being reported here.
http://www.contentagenda.com/blog/1500000150/post/1760024576.html
The other factor is that it means that it helps lock Americans into having to buy stuff from American companies. Sound familiar?
Every one had given up on any thing other than IE being usable on the web. IT departments had to do extra work to get any kind of non IE browser to work where as IE became part of the desktop. A dot com I worked for even stopped testing against Netscape. Every one was saying the end is nigh. Now a few years later Mozzila is on tear.
I may be naive but I am having a hard time seeing Apple closing this up. If they did then some one in the free software world would be tempted to write some thing new. Apple would then be in the position where all of *nix could be moving in a different direction and they could be left on their own with CUPS. That would make it harder to get printer support from vendors not easier. They could hurt others for a while but not forever. Steve Jobs is a fan of all things propriatary at heart but he has to know this would be suicide. It would be nice to see them get on the record about what their intentions are though.
That or else The Empire Strikes Back.
There is a saying. You become what you fight. I am a huge Linux supporter and it has been my sole desktop for 5 years, but I don't in any way think that Linux HAS TO dominate. I think it would be just as sad if there was only one OS as if there was only one type of car you could buy. Not every one has the same requirments. ERS seems to think that the only purpose of a desktop computer is to play movies. I have an easy $10,000 in my home theater. The last thing I want to do with a desk top is watch crappy low res trailers. So for me I don't need an OS bloated with A/V codecs. One impresion I was left with as I read the article is that ERS must not have actually used Linux in a few years because a lot of the things he mentioned as problems have long since been eliminted. I couldn't help but notice that his plan conveniently side stepped the whole issue of DRM. How far down this path do you want to go? The reason why DCSS and the codecs got traction is that they are intertwined with DRM. Some thing else he forgot to mention is that we are in another paradigm shift. The battle over the next high capacity disk is on and has the potential to hand Microsoft a true monopoly or break their back, depending on what format wins. Linux isn't in this battle alone. All our allies may not be our freinds. There are lots of companies that are tired of being bullied and they are our allies. ERS also forgot to mention that the US supreme court is taking a hard look at patents right now and their decision could have major implications for software patents. This could make ERS's plans superflous. Some thing else to keep in mind is that the codec is rather a US centric problem. China is coming up with codecs all the time and has the muscle to make some of them stick. They may not be the big thing in the US tomorrow but if say China, India and Indonesia decided to get behind a particular codec their combuned might could make it a mandatory inclusion in any OS, be it propriatary or open source. A previous poster mentioned that Linux users don't pay any thing etc. That is wrong. Some do pay nothing. But others pay in code, in documentation, in training etc. The cost for RedHat to put out version 1.0 of their distro was a lot less than it was for Microsoft to put out say Win2K. Want to guess why? Linux doesn't have to win, it may not win. But open source certainly will.
Now any time an American leaves his country you will be able to easily identify them by this goofy tag in their arm. Cries of "No I'm not an American, I'm a Canadian" can easily be dispelled. This will make the terrorist or any one else who wants to harm Americans ( and there are plenty of groups that fall into that category ) lives so much easier. Want evidence I kidnapped Joe Blow? Heres his RFID number. Maybe Americans will just start staying at home. # I am not a number I am free man!!!
This is and isn't as nefarious as every one is making this out to be.
It isn't because the courts have told Microsoft to start licencing their patents that allow other systems to interact with Windows machines. They are just doing what the court has ordered.
But on the other hand Bill and crew have never thought that they should be required to follow the dictates of the courts. So if they can follow the letter of the law but stick it to the courts and others at the same time that is poetic justice in their minds. This probably will PO judge Urquhart but not enough that she will do any thing about it. It isn't every day you get to tweek the judges nose and get away with it. I think the EU will have a different take on it though.
From my stand point I hope this makes the studios and CE companies take a long hard look at what could happen with WM9. As well if FAT is a good patent to enforce why not joliet and some others. I don't think Microsoft is charging any where near enough for these patents either.If it is really valubale crank up the price.