It's not -quite- the same, I suspect that Wikileaks might have an edge precisely because they are not a foreign intelligence agency. They take the info and toss it to the world, whereas a foreign intelligence agency will definitely want to keep stuff secret. If you're trying to blow the whistle on wrongdoing and believe you're doing whats best for your country, you probably won't listen to another country's intelligence agents. After all, -that- would be treason.
That and they'd probably want less information of higher quality, not a massive deluge like this.
there will be almost no devices made to plug into the interface
Just like no one ever made devices that plugged into the far more proprietary Apple Dock port? Come now, it's an Intel backed technology that appears first in MacBook Pros and is guaranteed to appear shortly afterward across the PC market.
The only question is what will appear, not if anything will appear.
Isn't exclusive just another way of saying proprietary?
No, it just means they're the first to roll it out. I expect it'll start appearing on expansion cards and other motherboards not long after. But Apple will get to tout having the first systems with the interface.
If laptops have the ports people will develop devices for it. That Macs are -known- to be coming with them then it's highly likely that peripheral manufacturers are creating devices that use it to be ready for the release.
When a product is truly open, it can not be killed by the manufacturer.
The N900 is plenty open. And my device hasn't gone tits up on me because Nokia threw some switch. And their handling of the Internet Tablets/N900 has nothing to do with MeeGo, which exists under the Linux Foundation.
I suspect developing for MeGoo is inly slightly more relevant than developing for the nostalgia/emulator crowd.
I'm confused. How is developing for a Linux distro that uses Qt as its primary toolkit like "developing for the nostalgia/emulator crowd"?
Where's the application infrastructure? Third parties, distribution, OS drivers, etc?
With MeeGo, it's not there. Not for MeeGo specific apps.
Well, if Acer is going to supply their own store then they're supplying the infrastructure. MeeGo is a middleware platform that resembles a standard Linux distro that pulls heavily from upstream, instead of a massive NIH effort designed around pushing Google's services out to the world.
Most of the anti-MeeGo comments I see stem mostly from not understanding what, exactly, MeeGo is supposed to be.
Who knows. If Acer is willing to provide their own stores they should have no problem supporting MeeGo. It may have more to do with the fact that there's no reference UI they can be lazy and make minor modifications to before pushing it out.
I'll forward the TouchDown recommendation on to my co-workers that are using Android, however most of them are beta-testing software in development here (system level stuff) so they tend to get their devices reset frequently. I use an N900, so there's no real options for me short of my employer buying me a device, or reverse engineering the ActiveSync protocol such that I can lie and claim I support provisioning when I don't.
Sure, any phone or client that supports Exchange Provisioning will allow the server administrator to do it.
Incidentally, I lost access completely to my work's Exchange server after they enabled provisioning, as did everyone using Android. All the iPhone users have access still, and they're all open to being wiped once someone flips the switch.
Not really. By all rights they should have every bit of knowledge required to prevent it.
On top of that, this is a persistent state they permit to continue instead of enforcing regulations that would massively reduce the human-caused portions of it.
Oh even the handset vendors. Motorola sure likes to keep handsets locked down. And only the G1 and Nexus One allowed root access without finding local exploits.
Except the person in question didn't even write the tweet. It was a retweet that mocked a bunch of protesters. She was targeted because her tiny comment didn't serve the purposes of the CCP.
And your link shows what happens when the law in the US and UK try to pull that shit. People don't cow down quietly, they mock the government loudly for their stupidity (also, the UK has fucked up laws.)
This is probably front page news because we clearly all hate China Now now, don't go stuffing words in the mouth of all Slashdotters.
Without something like that I fear that the open alternatives to iOS will drag on and on in half-baked form, never successfully challenging the consistent experience you get on iOS.
Well, there's MeeGo. The biggest thing is making sure that X11 can register and report multitouch events to applications, support for which is coming up rapidly. Of course, multitouch is a patent minefield with Apple patenting certain gestures (!).
Nothing in Android will be of value since it's all Android-specific interfaces.
Not offering the service outside the US I can understand, it takes time and money to work through any regulatory issues covering phone service in any country.
Apple sitting on it for 1.5 years? Less execusable. Stop me while I don't rush out to buy an iPhone.
In recent versions of Windows, specifically Vista and Windows 7, Microsoft has introduced a number of new security features designed to prevent malicious code from running.
Of course, but the primary role of that lock down was to protect their DRM'd subsystems, which can be accessed by drivers running in kernel space, not to protect end-users from malicious driver code. Those were vicious but by far a minority, and hasn't improved the situation on Windows Vista x64 / Windows 7 in the slightest.
But hey, now Microsoft gets to bill everyone $250 for each driver release!
Trains take multiple days to go from one side of this country to the other. Not flying is simply dodging the problem, and unchecked they'll push it on the trains too.
MeeGo might be a less than stellar MID or phone OS compared to say, Android
There's nothing particularly for or against either in terms of being a capable OS for those purposes. MeeGo mostly defines a framework and APIs, whether it works well in those roles is heavily dependent on the device vendor stepping up to the task of providing a good UI.
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It's not -quite- the same, I suspect that Wikileaks might have an edge precisely because they are not a foreign intelligence agency. They take the info and toss it to the world, whereas a foreign intelligence agency will definitely want to keep stuff secret. If you're trying to blow the whistle on wrongdoing and believe you're doing whats best for your country, you probably won't listen to another country's intelligence agents. After all, -that- would be treason.
That and they'd probably want less information of higher quality, not a massive deluge like this.
Just like no one ever made devices that plugged into the far more proprietary Apple Dock port? Come now, it's an Intel backed technology that appears first in MacBook Pros and is guaranteed to appear shortly afterward across the PC market.
The only question is what will appear, not if anything will appear.
No, it just means they're the first to roll it out. I expect it'll start appearing on expansion cards and other motherboards not long after. But Apple will get to tout having the first systems with the interface.
Chicken and Egg.
If laptops have the ports people will develop devices for it. That Macs are -known- to be coming with them then it's highly likely that peripheral manufacturers are creating devices that use it to be ready for the release.
That, right there, is the attitude of a WINNER.
The N900 is plenty open. And my device hasn't gone tits up on me because Nokia threw some switch. And their handling of the Internet Tablets/N900 has nothing to do with MeeGo, which exists under the Linux Foundation.
I'm confused. How is developing for a Linux distro that uses Qt as its primary toolkit like "developing for the nostalgia/emulator crowd"?
Well, if Acer is going to supply their own store then they're supplying the infrastructure. MeeGo is a middleware platform that resembles a standard Linux distro that pulls heavily from upstream, instead of a massive NIH effort designed around pushing Google's services out to the world.
Most of the anti-MeeGo comments I see stem mostly from not understanding what, exactly, MeeGo is supposed to be.
Who knows. If Acer is willing to provide their own stores they should have no problem supporting MeeGo. It may have more to do with the fact that there's no reference UI they can be lazy and make minor modifications to before pushing it out.
I'll forward the TouchDown recommendation on to my co-workers that are using Android, however most of them are beta-testing software in development here (system level stuff) so they tend to get their devices reset frequently. I use an N900, so there's no real options for me short of my employer buying me a device, or reverse engineering the ActiveSync protocol such that I can lie and claim I support provisioning when I don't.
Sure, any phone or client that supports Exchange Provisioning will allow the server administrator to do it.
Incidentally, I lost access completely to my work's Exchange server after they enabled provisioning, as did everyone using Android. All the iPhone users have access still, and they're all open to being wiped once someone flips the switch.
Which is at best tangential to the topic at hand, no?
Not really. By all rights they should have every bit of knowledge required to prevent it.
On top of that, this is a persistent state they permit to continue instead of enforcing regulations that would massively reduce the human-caused portions of it.
Err, I'm referring to the ADK1 I guess, whatever version Google sold directly. I just dodged the whole mess and bought an N900.
Oh even the handset vendors. Motorola sure likes to keep handsets locked down. And only the G1 and Nexus One allowed root access without finding local exploits.
I don't know, I consider having the vendor insist on controlling what I do to be pretty crappy.
Except the person in question didn't even write the tweet. It was a retweet that mocked a bunch of protesters. She was targeted because her tiny comment didn't serve the purposes of the CCP.
And your link shows what happens when the law in the US and UK try to pull that shit. People don't cow down quietly, they mock the government loudly for their stupidity (also, the UK has fucked up laws.)
This is probably front page news because we clearly all hate China
Now now, don't go stuffing words in the mouth of all Slashdotters.
Well, there's MeeGo. The biggest thing is making sure that X11 can register and report multitouch events to applications, support for which is coming up rapidly. Of course, multitouch is a patent minefield with Apple patenting certain gestures (!).
Nothing in Android will be of value since it's all Android-specific interfaces.
And they'll all be locked down.
Welcome to the world of Trusted Computing!
Thanks, I'll pass. I don't need to be told how to use my property. I also don't like kool-aid.
Not offering the service outside the US I can understand, it takes time and money to work through any regulatory issues covering phone service in any country.
Apple sitting on it for 1.5 years? Less execusable. Stop me while I don't rush out to buy an iPhone.
I like your perspective.
Of course, but the primary role of that lock down was to protect their DRM'd subsystems, which can be accessed by drivers running in kernel space, not to protect end-users from malicious driver code. Those were vicious but by far a minority, and hasn't improved the situation on Windows Vista x64 / Windows 7 in the slightest.
But hey, now Microsoft gets to bill everyone $250 for each driver release!
Trains take multiple days to go from one side of this country to the other. Not flying is simply dodging the problem, and unchecked they'll push it on the trains too.
I thought GTK was simply an outgrowth of GIMP?
There's nothing particularly for or against either in terms of being a capable OS for those purposes. MeeGo mostly defines a framework and APIs, whether it works well in those roles is heavily dependent on the device vendor stepping up to the task of providing a good UI.