I used to remember a time when it was the Republican that were trying to legislate behavior (morality). Now it's time for the Democrats to do this apparently.
The Republicans still do. Legislating behavior is something the Democrats have always been accused of, I'm not sure how this falls into that.
Regulation about light bulb standards is certainly a thing that can be done
Which is what was done.
wouldn't it be nice if people chose the "right" light bulb because it's "right" and not because they were forced to choose the "right" one?
I believe this falls into the FUD that is being spread about the legislation.
That's why so many of us were so hesitant to use Ubuntu way back when it started rising.
I suspect the hesitance was due to the fact that Ubuntu was bringing in new users by not being a pain in the ass to use, and long-time Linux users were incensed that someone would make it usable.
Not news: Slashdot is full of hate for a company and person who have worked to make Linux usable.
Yeah I saw that. Of course, truth is I don't recall Network Manager being used on Ubuntu Server for precisely the reason you point out. Last I checked you had to go out of your way to add it to server.
Amusing, the implication that it's not crippled today.
You suggested it was crippled, it's up to you to point how it is.
Seriously, networkmanager and resolvconf on the fucking server editions?
Explain how they're bad? Seriously. Just spouting off about some package and assuming everyone agrees with you that it's bad is silly. Not that network manager "cripples" a platform, or is somehow not removable.
You'll notice that Canonical is working in an area that Redhat outright gave up on. For the very reasons you cite. "Support contracts" don't work with end-users.
Those who want full suited OS will get the premium one and those who don't care about their privacy or workflow will get lite OS like Ubuntu.
I want you to explain to me, in detail, how Ubuntu will be crippled such that it can't do what it can do today, and how it will be able to violate my privacy/break my workflow.
It would, but it would be a pale shadow of its current self. Sure it'd survive on servers and in the mobile space, but the desktop would be even tinier. What would Valve do, shift their target to Fedora? Which is even less end-user targeted than Ubuntu?
so many other things that need fixing, and they're whacking off about internet search.
To be frank, a lot of what needs fixing takes money to fix. Particularly integration and compatibility issues which seem to be, by far, the biggest source of problems. This requires labs full of hardware and people to develop and automate the testing.
If you're struggling to find sources of income (which wouldn't surprise me, given the attitude expressed here on Slashdot previously) then it's hard to step up and develop the QA infrastructure that's needed to resolve the issues. Most Slashdotters would simply write them off and move on to the next useless distro.
No one, frankly. They should be wholly separate. With the move to LTE and, from the looks of things, multi-band and multi-format basebands coming early in the technology's lifecycle, it might actually be viable to buy a handset and pick from the carriers.
The stupid thing is letting them try to be more than dumb pipes and put up barriers to customer mobility between them.
Well when you're Apple and have a unique position among the handset vendors where the carrier doesn't insist on fucking with your device software and lets you treat the end user as the customer, and interact with them directly to provide support, then it's a lot easier.
When you have the mistaken perspective (easy to make in the US) that the carrier is your customer and you should cater to them, shit happens like ancient devices without updates. Not that it'd help blatantly irresponsible companies like Motorola, who repeatedly abandon handsets after a year or so, but may be they'd be more willing to do a better job (or more directly feel the effects) if they weren't protected by contracts and buffered from reality by the carriers.
The unmitigated hatred against Canonical for trying to find a way to generate income so that they can stay in business and continue developing Ubuntu is amazing. What the hell else do you expect them to do? If they offered a way to buy a copy I'm sure we'd have an equally trollish, hate filled thread here on Slashdot.
They aren't. The Debian install boots directly into LXDE. The "tough" learning curve is illusory and can easily be overcome in the environment the Pi is used in without suddenly needing two computers rather than one.
Hairyfeet's problem is that the kernel devs don't cater to the lazy whims of hardware vendors that write drivers once then forget about them for 5 years until the next Windows rev comes out.
Of course, when you're working with Linux you should know what you're getting into and how they work (and happily with many major hardware vendors) but apparently they're supposed to cater to the laziest, "our shit is special" bunch.
The Linux community needs a drastic culture-change before it's ready to compete on any meaningful level with Windows and OS X.
No, companies that ship Linux on their systems should step up and actually support them, rather than push the support off on the communities that surround them. I have met my fair share of dickish Windows and Apple fanboys who attack people with questions rather than help, and seen more than a few people with questions regarding Linux get help.
The users at large are under no obligation to help anyone.
The worst are users that assume that they're entitled to an answer right this moment from someone who's helping others on their own time.
I WILL be modded down for this, and it WILL validate my point even more.
You weren't, but you should be just for adding this stupid passive-aggressive wannabe victim-complex "oh-i'm-so-oppressed" tag.
Why are you not on their forums having a fucking shitfit?
Cause we aren't all vulgar assholes?
Why are you not telling the devs to stop acting like douchebags and quit fucking with the internals so shit isn't constantly fucking breaking like this?
What internals, precisely, were broken? Oh, closed source drivers from an uncooperative company? You should blame the company rather than demanding others comply to the whims of lazy corporations that refuse to support their products.
Plus you need to pay your developers to get Android ported to your device, and to keep drivers up to date as kernel interfaces change if you want to allow users to upgrade.
See, if Google had a sane kernel policy (i.e. they didn't try stuffing everything into the kernel) and device vendors pushed their drivers upstream, when the interfaces changed the drivers would have been updated by whoever was pushing the change.
Instead it's all being done badly and kernel updates are more difficult than they should be.
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Where might this code be found?
And they aren't telling you what to buy. They're imposing regulations on the market that, unsurprisingly, push inefficient bulbs out.
Then go tell the Republicans and their sycophants to end their hate campaign against portions of this nation's population.
The Republicans still do. Legislating behavior is something the Democrats have always been accused of, I'm not sure how this falls into that.
Which is what was done.
I believe this falls into the FUD that is being spread about the legislation.
But in terms of out of the box usability it's still several steps behind Ubuntu. It's on par with Fedora, which I also avoid as much as possible.
Delicious ad-hominem.
I suspect the hesitance was due to the fact that Ubuntu was bringing in new users by not being a pain in the ass to use, and long-time Linux users were incensed that someone would make it usable.
Not news: Slashdot is full of hate for a company and person who have worked to make Linux usable.
Canonical has achieved a user base with Ubuntu that no other distro really has, as far as I can tell. That is what attracts Valve.
And by "jumped the shark" I take that to mean "they aren't being the difficult old hard to use pain in the ass Linux that I know and love," right?
Yeah I saw that. Of course, truth is I don't recall Network Manager being used on Ubuntu Server for precisely the reason you point out. Last I checked you had to go out of your way to add it to server.
You suggested it was crippled, it's up to you to point how it is.
Explain how they're bad? Seriously. Just spouting off about some package and assuming everyone agrees with you that it's bad is silly. Not that network manager "cripples" a platform, or is somehow not removable.
Go on, explain your rage.
You'll notice that Canonical is working in an area that Redhat outright gave up on. For the very reasons you cite. "Support contracts" don't work with end-users.
And accomplishing exactly what?
Really? Ubuntu is a "lite OS"?
I want you to explain to me, in detail, how Ubuntu will be crippled such that it can't do what it can do today, and how it will be able to violate my privacy/break my workflow.
It is? I would have had the overuse and abuse of antibiotics in factory farms pegged as the cause to antibiotic resistance in E. Coli.
Basically. Leveraging a subsidy in one industry for yourself. I say fuck Iowa and end the corn subsidies.
It would, but it would be a pale shadow of its current self. Sure it'd survive on servers and in the mobile space, but the desktop would be even tinier. What would Valve do, shift their target to Fedora? Which is even less end-user targeted than Ubuntu?
so many other things that need fixing, and they're whacking off about internet search.
To be frank, a lot of what needs fixing takes money to fix. Particularly integration and compatibility issues which seem to be, by far, the biggest source of problems. This requires labs full of hardware and people to develop and automate the testing.
If you're struggling to find sources of income (which wouldn't surprise me, given the attitude expressed here on Slashdot previously) then it's hard to step up and develop the QA infrastructure that's needed to resolve the issues. Most Slashdotters would simply write them off and move on to the next useless distro.
Regulation is always an option. Barring hardware exclusivity, like they do in Europe, is another.
No one, frankly. They should be wholly separate. With the move to LTE and, from the looks of things, multi-band and multi-format basebands coming early in the technology's lifecycle, it might actually be viable to buy a handset and pick from the carriers.
The stupid thing is letting them try to be more than dumb pipes and put up barriers to customer mobility between them.
Well when you're Apple and have a unique position among the handset vendors where the carrier doesn't insist on fucking with your device software and lets you treat the end user as the customer, and interact with them directly to provide support, then it's a lot easier.
When you have the mistaken perspective (easy to make in the US) that the carrier is your customer and you should cater to them, shit happens like ancient devices without updates. Not that it'd help blatantly irresponsible companies like Motorola, who repeatedly abandon handsets after a year or so, but may be they'd be more willing to do a better job (or more directly feel the effects) if they weren't protected by contracts and buffered from reality by the carriers.
The unmitigated hatred against Canonical for trying to find a way to generate income so that they can stay in business and continue developing Ubuntu is amazing. What the hell else do you expect them to do? If they offered a way to buy a copy I'm sure we'd have an equally trollish, hate filled thread here on Slashdot.
Yeah, they should just go broke rather than find a way to generate income and keep this thing going.
They aren't. The Debian install boots directly into LXDE. The "tough" learning curve is illusory and can easily be overcome in the environment the Pi is used in without suddenly needing two computers rather than one.
Hairyfeet's problem is that the kernel devs don't cater to the lazy whims of hardware vendors that write drivers once then forget about them for 5 years until the next Windows rev comes out.
Of course, when you're working with Linux you should know what you're getting into and how they work (and happily with many major hardware vendors) but apparently they're supposed to cater to the laziest, "our shit is special" bunch.
No, companies that ship Linux on their systems should step up and actually support them, rather than push the support off on the communities that surround them. I have met my fair share of dickish Windows and Apple fanboys who attack people with questions rather than help, and seen more than a few people with questions regarding Linux get help.
The users at large are under no obligation to help anyone.
The worst are users that assume that they're entitled to an answer right this moment from someone who's helping others on their own time.
You weren't, but you should be just for adding this stupid passive-aggressive wannabe victim-complex "oh-i'm-so-oppressed" tag.
Cause we aren't all vulgar assholes?
What internals, precisely, were broken? Oh, closed source drivers from an uncooperative company? You should blame the company rather than demanding others comply to the whims of lazy corporations that refuse to support their products.
See, if Google had a sane kernel policy (i.e. they didn't try stuffing everything into the kernel) and device vendors pushed their drivers upstream, when the interfaces changed the drivers would have been updated by whoever was pushing the change.
Instead it's all being done badly and kernel updates are more difficult than they should be.
I know. There's no way in hell they could recompile them for x86. It sucks when you write software and it's forever locked to one architecture.
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