"the author believes that Microsoft will unleash an abundance of next-generation applications that will take everyone by surprise"
That would make the whole community drop jaws in unison so hard it would move the earth a fair bit. What next-generation application can anyone think of that has had its origin within Microsoft? Everything i can think of has either been bought or Xeroxed. Even one a unique first generation application would make a pretty big splash since it would be the first.
I imagine anything Microsoft will "unleash" will be the same old but done in another development platform. It must be infuriating with AJAX, Mono, Apache, MySQL etc stealing all of the light.
Correct me if im wrong but arent copyrights the biggest obstacle against this? You canl only mine your own data as IBM and others already does today. Im interested in when you can mine data from all the various sources and combine those into conclusions. File formats are another thing hampering this kind of technology, especially if you look at it in a longer time frame. Try mining those Lotus 123 documents for historic facts;D
At this moment there seems to be plenty of room for various distributions on the market. The only thing they have to think of is keeping eachother standards compliant and not wander off too far from the rest. A split like the one in Unix land is not in any Linux vendors interest and such vendor will quickly find themselves obsolete and marginalized.
When it finally becomes public knowledge what the US has been doing past yers it will also be horrific reading. Thanks to the fall of the USSR we now know much more about the USSR than we know about the US and its weapons of mass destruction.
Its things like Intelligent Design that makes me understand why some cultures have vaned and dissapeared troughout history. By denying straight thinking and bending things backwards you can really stop progress and then another culture comes in and takes over. I find myself seeing this alot today with idiotic things like Intelligent Design, patent laws and IP ownage. The list is long but current denial of scientific theories like evolution and global warming takes first price.
China has it really laid out for them in the future thats for sure.
Even if Swedens ruling party (The Social Democrats) has their tongue right in there in Bush's crack i dont think nice thoughts when i see the American flag in this topics headline.
Aw, i remember NCR Dos 3.2 as being the best i ever layed my hands on. MS own version was utter crap in the same timeframe.
And yes, i think Ballmer was the one tipping things over. I really dont think Bill Gates would have behaived like he has if it wasnt for Ballmer standing beside him like Grima whispering in his ears.
I really do believe the reason is the GPL license and not that Linux in any way are sexier or better than *BSD. Can you describe in a better way why Linux is so much more popular than *BSD?
As i see it corps and many developers think that if you give something away to *BSD you give your competitors a free lunch they probably wont return. In fact they could just take your code, implement it in an incompatible way in a larger userbase rendering your implementation worthless. GPL prevents that kind of behaviour and doesnt give anyone with a larger userbase the upper hand, like for instance Microsoft. With the GPL they have to reveal the changes. That way you cant take someone elses code and screw the originator from here to mars.
" Microsoft releases one patch day a month because their corporate customers, the lion's share of their market, demand it."
The customers demanded less security holes that demanded patches, not less frequent updates of critical security fixes. It also helps polishing the statistics if you lump several patches together and release them all at one day every month. Big corporations dont use Windows Update without testing the patches either. Even if Microsoft release all the patches fast when they are ready big mofo corps can still patch once a month. One does not rule out the other.
Then please explain why so many of the developers of Linux is full time employes of various companies out there? Much of the infrastructure and meetings and so on is also paid by outstanding corps. I dont think Linux is better than *BSD in any way so i assume its the GPL license that makes corps more inclined to help Linux development than *BSD.
If you release something under a license(BSD) that lets people screw you over what do you expect? Companies will take whats good and give back nothing, not money, developers or anything. Change the friggin license already!
Not so for me. I have seen countless reboots from XP taking a hike in mid air. The difference is you dont notice most crashes since nothing tells you the darn crap has crashed. It just throws its hands in the air cycle itself. What a way to get rid of BSOD, perform harakiri instead of showing the bluscrean.
XP is better than crash_every_single_keyboardklick but its not that stable. Im not impressed until Windows is better than Linux or *BSD. Why shouldnt something i pay good money for be much better than something free?
The strange thing is that its not any users of Windows. DRM gives the manufacturers a new unpreceedent tool for administrating users computers without they having a say about it. Once you install an application that uses DRM your computer isnt yours anymore.
Who would want that? Good thing is it will make Linux look so much better.
Im helping a friend out with migrating to Linux from Windows. I thought i should try out running windows games on Linux and Cedega has been a pleasant surprise. Many games run just perfectly in Linux. Codeweavers Wine is more aimed at office apps and handles most of them jsut fine. That said its not that many apps you will miss in Linux once you find "your" linux equivalent of your favourite app.
First of all i meant things that matter for a user. Most of the things you mention are just new implementations of old technologies.
1. Queuing, execution and databases. Wow thats exciting, not. it isnt really an OS feature either. 2 Making the desktop 3D aware is nice but really dont bring that much to the user other than looks. I run it 3D today on linux. 3 Hardware. 4 Net is as interesting as watching grass grow. Platform independent code thats artificially made platform dependant. Thats not what i call progress. Net sucks, thats why nobody wants it. Heck, not even Microsoft themselves could use it in Windows Vista. 5 And how has this made OS out there better? 6 Yea, i see now all the many benefits in our daily OS that uses them. Where in your OS did you have one you said? 7 Hardware 8 Hardware 9 Hardware
Its funny that 4 out of 9 was hardware advances. This is what i mean, hardware has evolved very much but software has come to a standstill. If it worent for SUN, IBM, Apple and others to copy from things would be even worse.
Those accusations against this man is baseless and pretty lame. If you use those terms like in the article half the worlds population should be behind bars. Its newspeak in its finest form and you bought it hook line and sinker just like the placent little citizen youre supposed to be.
Nice to see that more people than i think todays computers are pretty dull, boring and lame excuses of a calculator. I have an Amiga 500 that still performs better in some areas than a brand spanking new PC with Windows on it. Thats just sad.
Where are the interesting technologies? Computing has been standing pretty much still over the last 15 years. The only really interesting thing that has happened was the internet. The rest is just hardware speeds and such.
Software just plain sucks today. Microsoft destroyed the software market because they know the second software is freed from the OS their game is over. If software was platform independant it wouldnt matter if your OS was from the late 60 or the latest brand spanking new hardware platform and OS.
From what i understand they tried to rewrite the dungpile of spaghetticode in.Net technologies but failed to get any descent performance and stability, Late into the process they decided to rip the new code out and start over with the old code again. The mistake was that.Net isnt usable for larger projects.
I would love to get some more facts about this, link away =)
An evil terrorist has a website up that shows completely open manuals for weapons, oh the horror! Quick, put the NRA in jail this very instant!
And even more evil, hes not on the side of the US and write bad things about it. Off to the thought ministery and reprogram him, cant have that can we?
Its pretty darn sad how little value the word terrorrist has theese days. Nowadays ot seems to mean smalltime criminal punk with the wrong skin colour. Racism? You bet it is.
Take a look at the numbers, how many of your friends died in a car accident and how many died from a terriorist act....
Your hypothetical user scenario sure sounds spiffy. One problem with it, just a very barndoor_size_big_mofo problem.
Where the heck do you find the users with this level of technical expertise in your normal everyday company? Here i am having trouble getting users to use anything not right infront of them on the desktop and then i will have to make them understand that kind of management? I have seen countless systems with the same level of functioning that nobody uses. Netware has Virtual Office that provides less functionality but i still dont use it. Why? Because nobody but me and about ten more people can handle it without extensive(expensive) training.
Another quiestion is, how well does it work with my other systems? If it dont then just dont bother.
This isnt a case where Microsoft can point at a random OSS project and yell "they suck too!".
If the sentence is hard then tough luck, dont break the law in the first place. Its a punishment and its supposed to sting. It doesnt matter one bit if its hard to document the protocols but its pretty strange they arent already documented.
Its not surprising that it takes for ever to do patches when nobody inside Microsoft seems to know how things should work. They have to test every single line they alter because they dont know how things are supposed to work.
Any attempt at throwing dirt at him will backfire because they choosed him in the first place. Pissing the EU off isnt a shrewd move for a company that basically only leeches and dont create any real value inside the EU. This will underline the fact that some corporations have to much power.
The problem was that the documentation said different things at different places without specifying wich way was the correct way. A documentation should do that, else its pretty much useless. You could just as well just reverse engineer if the end result of using the documentatin is random.
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"the author believes that Microsoft will unleash an abundance of next-generation applications that will take everyone by surprise"
That would make the whole community drop jaws in unison so hard it would move the earth a fair bit. What next-generation application can anyone think of that has had its origin within Microsoft? Everything i can think of has either been bought or Xeroxed. Even one a unique first generation application would make a pretty big splash since it would be the first.
I imagine anything Microsoft will "unleash" will be the same old but done in another development platform. It must be infuriating with AJAX, Mono, Apache, MySQL etc stealing all of the light.
I would call Nomachine NX an enterprise solution if any.
Correct me if im wrong but arent copyrights the biggest obstacle against this? You canl only mine your own data as IBM and others already does today. Im interested in when you can mine data from all the various sources and combine those into conclusions. File formats are another thing hampering this kind of technology, especially if you look at it in a longer time frame. Try mining those Lotus 123 documents for historic facts ;D
At this moment there seems to be plenty of room for various distributions on the market. The only thing they have to think of is keeping eachother standards compliant and not wander off too far from the rest. A split like the one in Unix land is not in any Linux vendors interest and such vendor will quickly find themselves obsolete and marginalized.
When it finally becomes public knowledge what the US has been doing past yers it will also be horrific reading. Thanks to the fall of the USSR we now know much more about the USSR than we know about the US and its weapons of mass destruction.
Im not really following you here, i thought it was the Jewish racism that had kept it free from racial blending.
Its things like Intelligent Design that makes me understand why some cultures have vaned and dissapeared troughout history. By denying straight thinking and bending things backwards you can really stop progress and then another culture comes in and takes over. I find myself seeing this alot today with idiotic things like Intelligent Design, patent laws and IP ownage. The list is long but current denial of scientific theories like evolution and global warming takes first price.
China has it really laid out for them in the future thats for sure.
Even if Swedens ruling party (The Social Democrats) has their tongue right in there in Bush's crack i dont think nice thoughts when i see the American flag in this topics headline.
Aw, i remember NCR Dos 3.2 as being the best i ever layed my hands on. MS own version was utter crap in the same timeframe.
And yes, i think Ballmer was the one tipping things over. I really dont think Bill Gates would have behaived like he has if it wasnt for Ballmer standing beside him like Grima whispering in his ears.
I really do believe the reason is the GPL license and not that Linux in any way are sexier or better than *BSD. Can you describe in a better way why Linux is so much more popular than *BSD?
As i see it corps and many developers think that if you give something away to *BSD you give your competitors a free lunch they probably wont return. In fact they could just take your code, implement it in an incompatible way in a larger userbase rendering your implementation worthless. GPL prevents that kind of behaviour and doesnt give anyone with a larger userbase the upper hand, like for instance Microsoft. With the GPL they have to reveal the changes. That way you cant take someone elses code and screw the originator from here to mars.
" Microsoft releases one patch day a month because their corporate customers, the lion's share of their market, demand it."
The customers demanded less security holes that demanded patches, not less frequent updates of critical security fixes. It also helps polishing the statistics if you lump several patches together and release them all at one day every month. Big corporations dont use Windows Update without testing the patches either. Even if Microsoft release all the patches fast when they are ready big mofo corps can still patch once a month. One does not rule out the other.
Thanks for the insult =)
Then please explain why so many of the developers of Linux is full time employes of various companies out there? Much of the infrastructure and meetings and so on is also paid by outstanding corps. I dont think Linux is better than *BSD in any way so i assume its the GPL license that makes corps more inclined to help Linux development than *BSD.
If you release something under a license(BSD) that lets people screw you over what do you expect? Companies will take whats good and give back nothing, not money, developers or anything. Change the friggin license already!
Not so for me. I have seen countless reboots from XP taking a hike in mid air. The difference is you dont notice most crashes since nothing tells you the darn crap has crashed. It just throws its hands in the air cycle itself. What a way to get rid of BSOD, perform harakiri instead of showing the bluscrean.
XP is better than crash_every_single_keyboardklick but its not that stable. Im not impressed until Windows is better than Linux or *BSD. Why shouldnt something i pay good money for be much better than something free?
I know who wants it.
The strange thing is that its not any users of Windows. DRM gives the manufacturers a new unpreceedent tool for administrating users computers without they having a say about it. Once you install an application that uses DRM your computer isnt yours anymore.
Who would want that? Good thing is it will make Linux look so much better.
Im helping a friend out with migrating to Linux from Windows. I thought i should try out running windows games on Linux and Cedega has been a pleasant surprise. Many games run just perfectly in Linux. Codeweavers Wine is more aimed at office apps and handles most of them jsut fine. That said its not that many apps you will miss in Linux once you find "your" linux equivalent of your favourite app.
First of all i meant things that matter for a user. Most of the things you mention are just new implementations of old technologies.
1. Queuing, execution and databases. Wow thats exciting, not. it isnt really an OS feature either.
2 Making the desktop 3D aware is nice but really dont bring that much to the user other than looks. I run it 3D today on linux.
3 Hardware.
4 Net is as interesting as watching grass grow. Platform independent code thats artificially made platform dependant. Thats not what i call progress. Net sucks, thats why nobody wants it. Heck, not even Microsoft themselves could use it in Windows Vista.
5 And how has this made OS out there better?
6 Yea, i see now all the many benefits in our daily OS that uses them. Where in your OS did you have one you said?
7 Hardware
8 Hardware
9 Hardware
Its funny that 4 out of 9 was hardware advances. This is what i mean, hardware has evolved very much but software has come to a standstill. If it worent for SUN, IBM, Apple and others to copy from things would be even worse.
Those accusations against this man is baseless and pretty lame. If you use those terms like in the article half the worlds population should be behind bars. Its newspeak in its finest form and you bought it hook line and sinker just like the placent little citizen youre supposed to be.
Nice to see that more people than i think todays computers are pretty dull, boring and lame excuses of a calculator. I have an Amiga 500 that still performs better in some areas than a brand spanking new PC with Windows on it. Thats just sad.
Where are the interesting technologies? Computing has been standing pretty much still over the last 15 years. The only really interesting thing that has happened was the internet. The rest is just hardware speeds and such.
Software just plain sucks today. Microsoft destroyed the software market because they know the second software is freed from the OS their game is over. If software was platform independant it wouldnt matter if your OS was from the late 60 or the latest brand spanking new hardware platform and OS.
That would make development take off again.
From what i understand they tried to rewrite the dungpile of spaghetticode in .Net technologies but failed to get any descent performance and stability, Late into the process they decided to rip the new code out and start over with the old code again. The mistake was that .Net isnt usable for larger projects.
I would love to get some more facts about this, link away =)
An evil terrorist has a website up that shows completely open manuals for weapons, oh the horror! Quick, put the NRA in jail this very instant!
And even more evil, hes not on the side of the US and write bad things about it. Off to the thought ministery and reprogram him, cant have that can we?
Its pretty darn sad how little value the word terrorrist has theese days. Nowadays ot seems to mean smalltime criminal punk with the wrong skin colour. Racism? You bet it is.
Take a look at the numbers, how many of your friends died in a car accident and how many died from a terriorist act....
Your hypothetical user scenario sure sounds spiffy. One problem with it, just a very barndoor_size_big_mofo problem.
Where the heck do you find the users with this level of technical expertise in your normal everyday company? Here i am having trouble getting users to use anything not right infront of them on the desktop and then i will have to make them understand that kind of management? I have seen countless systems with the same level of functioning that nobody uses. Netware has Virtual Office that provides less functionality but i still dont use it. Why? Because nobody but me and about ten more people can handle it without extensive(expensive) training.
Another quiestion is, how well does it work with my other systems? If it dont then just dont bother.
This isnt a case where Microsoft can point at a random OSS project and yell "they suck too!".
If the sentence is hard then tough luck, dont break the law in the first place. Its a punishment and its supposed to sting. It doesnt matter one bit if its hard to document the protocols but its pretty strange they arent already documented.
Its not surprising that it takes for ever to do patches when nobody inside Microsoft seems to know how things should work. They have to test every single line they alter because they dont know how things are supposed to work.
Any attempt at throwing dirt at him will backfire because they choosed him in the first place. Pissing the EU off isnt a shrewd move for a company that basically only leeches and dont create any real value inside the EU. This will underline the fact that some corporations have to much power.
The problem was that the documentation said different things at different places without specifying wich way was the correct way. A documentation should do that, else its pretty much useless. You could just as well just reverse engineer if the end result of using the documentatin is random.