I play UT every single day and have the windows version because i wanted it pronto, not a couple of months after it was released. I wont be buying the windows version this time cause i havent a single windows disc or installation (except a couple of beer coasters, pretty stained they are).
If there are a linux client avaliable what keeps them from releasing it. A popular game like UT should give a pretty good picture of how much interest there is in linux and gaming if they realese them at the same time.
If they realese windows version first many ppl will buy the windows version just so they can play the darn game. Thus linux user copies showing up as windows copies.
Actually if you look at Playstation and PC software there are good examples of making money even if wild pirating occurs. Sony isnt broke and neither is MS even if MS is probably the most pirated company ever.
Some of the best programmers have tried and no single company has been able to succed. The only way to make a protection system work would be to play the game from a central server and use password protection, fingerprint, retinal scan and DNA samples before you can begin playing.
Pirating has helped some companies in gaining market and mindshare. Sony and Playstation come to mind as does Commodore 64, amiga and the PC. They wouldnt have left the ground if it hadnt been so darn easy to copy the games and apps.Imagine buying all applications on a normal PC without linux?
Should the PS1 have been as successful if it hadnt been modchipped and games pirated? I dont think so and the same goes for the PC. Install a working copy protection and your user base flies off to another platform instead.
Thats exactly my thoughts too but you put it in so much better wording. With hardware becoming faster and cheaper every day software is bound to become cheaper and faster/better too. Microsoft may be able to put it off in the states by lobbying for laws hindering open source but there plenty of countries who would like to keep their money within the borders.
Actually i think slashdot is an amazing pool of knowledge. Even if the information isnt correct all the time it gives very valuable hints on where to look and go furter.
Ofcourse you shouldnt read slashdot like the bible, use common sense if avaliable.
The best way would be fiber to connect the buildings and wireless in the interior. That way you get a cheap speedy network. Just set up access points inside where needed.
Cisco has very nicelooking thin wallmounted accesspoints that can easily be hidden behind a poster or a painting.
According to Northern Telecom, tapping a FO cable requires stripping the cable's plastic outer sheathing and gaining access to the glass fibers within. "When we enter a fiber bundle, we have instruments that detect whether a given fiber is carrying a signal before we cut it," North Telecom stated. "A tap could be accomplished in much the same way."Tapping an optical fiber relies on a macrobending effect. Bending a fiber 180 degrees around an 1/8-inch radius forces the contained light signal to go around a tighter bend than it's capable of traversing without some loss of light. This light loss can be detected and, given the right equipment, demultiplexed and decoded.
You know, like blueprints on missiles, corporate finances, medical records and such. There are circumstances where the data must not be interceptable by anyone. Not even the US marine thats been sniffing copper for as long as theres been phone lines. I dont think we will see these things in other than military installations and other places where the data is sensitive.
"Of course I always thought that Fiber was always pretty secure anyway since it's a lot harder to tap than copper."
Its really not that hard if you want to. The average script kid might not have the money but for corporate espionage its no problem. Just get a fiber capable router or switch. A quick glitch in the transmission and youre in.
If you look at the speed GNU/Linux is picking up in China and other countries in other parts of the world Microsoft can be seeng themselves outpaced by various distributions. Microsoft will find themselves fighting to many wars instead of making their own crappy OS workable.
Sure they can lobby and buy votes in congress but its harder to do it abroad. SElinux wasnt used that much and wasnt a fullblown ready to go distro but rather a concept. There are plenty of highly secure distros out there but one fact remain. Almost any distro can be secure if it has a good sysadmin. The same cannot be said about Windows where the sysadmin and his server is in the hands of someone else.
They buy the email adresses on cdrom or by hacking an unsecure server. Often these are insider jobs. Your recepie is the same as i use. My real address that my friends use i wouldnt give away to any website.
This is why im so reluctant to embrace mono and any other projects that have anything to do with Microsoft. Any patent or license will be forced against us if and when any technology gets "too big". I would rather see that OpenSource would try to make its own technologies.
They have a habit of using any means avaliable to crush competition.
"We didn't fully understand the consequences of releasing software under the GPL (General Public License)," said Dick Schafer, deputy director of the NSA. "We received a lot of loud complaints regarding our efforts with SE Linux."
First i have a hard time believing that the NSA didnt read and interpret the GPL license before they begun.
And where has those complaints been coming from? I cant see any other company that would suffer from a secure linux effort other than Microsoft. I would love to know just what happened behind the scenes and how high up this went before it got ugly.
Considering the amount of work they spend on helping people to secure Windows the GPL should be a non issue unless politics and probably some very influencial people are behind this.
Its a real ugly battle and i do hope the real story gets out soon.
They will probably coerce it into AMD and Intels Cpus by either repression or by lobbying. Once its in the CPU its a easy task of just slipping it into the next version of Windows.
Their goal is probably to make it impossible to buy a new computer without the hardware part. Once that is in games and other apps are released to only work on a palladiumenabled computer. Note that this is a bit down the road and not all of it will happen at once. Its a sneak attack.
Hopefully either AMD or Intel will see that the one of them that not has the hardware thingie in their CPU will be selling a lot more CPU's than the other.
On that conclusion i presume they will lobby as hard as they can to make it mandatory to have TCPA built into new computers.
"It's hard to sort out the antitrust implications of Pd. Lots of people have written about it. Will Microsoft jigger Pd to prevent Linux from running? They don't dare."
I dont have the same impression of Microsoft that Bruce seems to have. If i go trough what they have done in the past there is nothing they wouldnt do to get more control. They will almost certainly have a licence tailored to make it hard for Open Source/Linux to implement it without breaking GPL.
Considering that GPL is a bigger threat to them than linux itself i assume they will take a shot at it. GPL is the one thing stopping them from stomping all over Open Source wreaking hawoc like in Simpson. They much prefer the BSD licence where they can "borrow" code since the despite their extremely big cashpile cant get people who knows how to code.
Is it possible to create a similar approach as with networks on documents. Creating an "OSI" model for documents would allow easy changes along the way and extensions on both high and low levels without the need to rewrite all code at once.
It has obviously been proven very succesful on networks so do any of you think it would be workable?
Thats more like it! Hopefully they give the olive branch to all Mac and Windows developers too. Not to Microsoft, remember kerberos anyone?
If GNU/linux/Open Source can be a part in setting the standards instead of just following them it would be awesome. Then linux could be the developers platform that set the industry instead of just playing tag along with windows.
To get backing for this it needs support from all other than Microsoft to be able to pressure them into supporting it. A web standard for documents would be nice instead of plain txt or vendor locked Microsoft and Adobe format. Adobe has its place too but its not a real standard, and its not free.
They want to make their browser a business platform. To remove all ads would be counter productive to what they weant to do with it. I think its sad and i do hope they will put in enough compensation in other areas to make the ads worth the pain.
Mozilla is pretty much perfect compared to IE so Netscape has a strong platform to build on. The sad thing is that it really rocks and is fast on Windows 95 without a browser and is slower and not_so-fast on any machine running IE 5 and up.
Heres hoping for a way to remove IE completely.
Then again i dont use Windows but i want the windows users to be happy too.
But he should be paid if he came up with something useful.
Imagine a clerk coming up with a way to shave 10% of off a companys expenses yearly. Shouldnt that guy have compensatione for that? Its not like he gets any money for it on his montly paycheck.
This kind of behavior is just self damaging to the company. They should encourage their employees to think more and give them bonuses when ther ideas are working.
The message they are sending out is shut your mouth, dont think about thinking!
Time to bring out the tinfoil and stop them from scanning your mind?
This is really to tasteless even to be considered. None should be able to claim somebody elses thought. It makes me wonder where the hell the USA is going to wind up. The founders of the former great country must be spinning like fans in their graves.
Here in sweden Billy boy was made Honorary Doctor at KTH university in Stockholm. Swedens universitys is mostly Microsoft shops and it shows on our CS students. It shows in our corporate world also, we have nuclear plants running NT.
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I blame it all on lag!
Everytime i point at something and pulls the trigger and that something doesnt die its because of lag.
Come see me at fraggelonia =)
Ill kill you!
I play UT every single day and have the windows version because i wanted it pronto, not a couple of months after it was released. I wont be buying the windows version this time cause i havent a single windows disc or installation (except a couple of beer coasters, pretty stained they are).
If there are a linux client avaliable what keeps them from releasing it. A popular game like UT should give a pretty good picture of how much interest there is in linux and gaming if they realese them at the same time.
If they realese windows version first many ppl will buy the windows version just so they can play the darn game. Thus linux user copies showing up as windows copies.
Actually if you look at Playstation and PC software there are good examples of making money even if wild pirating occurs. Sony isnt broke and neither is MS even if MS is probably the most pirated company ever.
Some of the best programmers have tried and no single company has been able to succed. The only way to make a protection system work would be to play the game from a central server and use password protection, fingerprint, retinal scan and DNA samples before you can begin playing.
Pirating has helped some companies in gaining market and mindshare. Sony and Playstation come to mind as does Commodore 64, amiga and the PC. They wouldnt have left the ground if it hadnt been so darn easy to copy the games and apps.Imagine buying all applications on a normal PC without linux?
Should the PS1 have been as successful if it hadnt been modchipped and games pirated? I dont think so and the same goes for the PC. Install a working copy protection and your user base flies off to another platform instead.
Thats exactly my thoughts too but you put it in so much better wording. With hardware becoming faster and cheaper every day software is bound to become cheaper and faster/better too. Microsoft may be able to put it off in the states by lobbying for laws hindering open source but there plenty of countries who would like to keep their money within the borders.
Actually i think slashdot is an amazing pool of knowledge. Even if the information isnt correct all the time it gives very valuable hints on where to look and go furter.
Ofcourse you shouldnt read slashdot like the bible, use common sense if avaliable.
The best way would be fiber to connect the buildings and wireless in the interior. That way you get a cheap speedy network. Just set up access points inside where needed.
Cisco has very nicelooking thin wallmounted accesspoints that can easily be hidden behind a poster or a painting.
According to Northern
Telecom, tapping a FO cable requires stripping the cable's plastic outer
sheathing and gaining access to the glass fibers within. "When we enter a
fiber bundle, we have instruments that detect whether a given fiber is carrying
a signal before we cut it," North Telecom stated. "A tap could be
accomplished in much the same way."Tapping an optical fiber relies on a macrobending effect. Bending a
fiber 180 degrees around an 1/8-inch radius forces the contained light signal
to go around a tighter bend than it's capable of traversing without some loss
of light. This light loss can be detected and, given the right equipment,
demultiplexed and decoded.
Get it?
You know, like blueprints on missiles, corporate finances, medical records and such. There are circumstances where the data must not be interceptable by anyone. Not even the US marine thats been sniffing copper for as long as theres been phone lines. I dont think we will see these things in other than military installations and other places where the data is sensitive.
"Of course I always thought that Fiber was always pretty secure anyway since it's a lot harder to tap than copper."
Its really not that hard if you want to. The average script kid might not have the money but for corporate espionage its no problem. Just get a fiber capable router or switch. A quick glitch in the transmission and youre in.
If you look at the speed GNU/Linux is picking up in China and other countries in other parts of the world Microsoft can be seeng themselves outpaced by various distributions. Microsoft will find themselves fighting to many wars instead of making their own crappy OS workable.
Sure they can lobby and buy votes in congress but its harder to do it abroad. SElinux wasnt used that much and wasnt a fullblown ready to go distro but rather a concept. There are plenty of highly secure distros out there but one fact remain. Almost any distro can be secure if it has a good sysadmin. The same cannot be said about Windows where the sysadmin and his server is in the hands of someone else.
They buy the email adresses on cdrom or by hacking an unsecure server. Often these are insider jobs. Your recepie is the same as i use. My real address that my friends use i wouldnt give away to any website.
Its almost like choosing a truck over a sportscar because the truck has a bigger engine.
Its better to look at price / real performance.
This is why im so reluctant to embrace mono and any other projects that have anything to do with Microsoft. Any patent or license will be forced against us if and when any technology gets "too big". I would rather see that OpenSource would try to make its own technologies.
They have a habit of using any means avaliable to crush competition.
Get the razor almost free and then buy razorblades at a high price.
We will be seeing alot more like this in the future. I think Microsoft gladly loose money if they can keep linux off government and cities.
"We didn't fully understand the consequences of releasing software under the GPL (General Public License)," said Dick Schafer, deputy director of the NSA. "We received a lot of loud complaints regarding our efforts with SE Linux."
First i have a hard time believing that the NSA didnt read and interpret the GPL license before they begun.
And where has those complaints been coming from? I cant see any other company that would suffer from a secure linux effort other than Microsoft. I would love to know just what happened behind the scenes and how high up this went before it got ugly.
Considering the amount of work they spend on helping people to secure Windows the GPL should be a non issue unless politics and probably some very influencial people are behind this.
Its a real ugly battle and i do hope the real story gets out soon.
Hey, im a Swede, i talk Swedish.
Please correct me and point to what i spell wrong or where my grammar stinks. Maybe i can improve if i get some feedback.
They will probably coerce it into AMD and Intels Cpus by either repression or by lobbying. Once its in the CPU its a easy task of just slipping it into the next version of Windows.
Their goal is probably to make it impossible to buy a new computer without the hardware part. Once that is in games and other apps are released to only work on a palladiumenabled computer. Note that this is a bit down the road and not all of it will happen at once. Its a sneak attack.
Hopefully either AMD or Intel will see that the one of them that not has the hardware thingie in their CPU will be selling a lot more CPU's than the other.
On that conclusion i presume they will lobby as hard as they can to make it mandatory to have TCPA built into new computers.
Bruce Writes:
"It's hard to sort out the antitrust implications of Pd. Lots of people have written about it. Will Microsoft jigger Pd to prevent Linux from running? They don't dare."
I dont have the same impression of Microsoft that Bruce seems to have. If i go trough what they have done in the past there is nothing they wouldnt do to get more control. They will almost certainly have a licence tailored to make it hard for Open Source/Linux to implement it without breaking GPL.
Considering that GPL is a bigger threat to them than linux itself i assume they will take a shot at it. GPL is the one thing stopping them from stomping all over Open Source wreaking hawoc like in Simpson. They much prefer the BSD licence where they can "borrow" code since the despite their extremely big cashpile cant get people who knows how to code.
Is it possible to create a similar approach as with networks on documents. Creating an "OSI" model for documents would allow easy changes along the way and extensions on both high and low levels without the need to rewrite all code at once.
It has obviously been proven very succesful on networks so do any of you think it would be workable?
If GNU/linux/Open Source can be a part in setting the standards instead of just following them it would be awesome. Then linux could be the developers platform that set the industry instead of just playing tag along with windows.
To get backing for this it needs support from all other than Microsoft to be able to pressure them into supporting it. A web standard for documents would be nice instead of plain txt or vendor locked Microsoft and Adobe format. Adobe has its place too but its not a real standard, and its not free.
Mozilla is pretty much perfect compared to IE so Netscape has a strong platform to build on. The sad thing is that it really rocks and is fast on Windows 95 without a browser and is slower and not_so-fast on any machine running IE 5 and up.
Heres hoping for a way to remove IE completely. Then again i dont use Windows but i want the windows users to be happy too.
Imagine a clerk coming up with a way to shave 10% of off a companys expenses yearly. Shouldnt that guy have compensatione for that? Its not like he gets any money for it on his montly paycheck.
This kind of behavior is just self damaging to the company. They should encourage their employees to think more and give them bonuses when ther ideas are working.
The message they are sending out is shut your mouth, dont think about thinking!
This is really to tasteless even to be considered. None should be able to claim somebody elses thought. It makes me wonder where the hell the USA is going to wind up. The founders of the former great country must be spinning like fans in their graves.
at KTH university in Stockholm. Swedens universitys is mostly Microsoft shops and it shows on our CS students. It shows in our corporate world also, we have nuclear plants running NT.
A good thing i dont live near one of those.