You seem to put no value whatsoever in a college degree, as if School is just a scam.
If you are looking for someone to code your 3d graphics engine, then of course you get the 3d graphics engine experienced person.
And here contract jobs are 80% targeted specific projects. But direct hires are general positions. Direct hires go to degreed people, contract go to experienced people. This is not what I would do, this is what happens in Michigan.
So are you talking about a programming 'position' or a programming 'task'?
Well I think technically it was not part of the deal. Seperate, but it just happened at the same time. Hard to explain. its part of it, but its not, what can I say. Read their quarterly report and you will understand what I mean.
Its not like they are hiding this stuff, and someone actually brought this up in the last conference call about a week ago(quarterly performance report).
They are giving stock options with LOTS of their deals these days. or so it would seem to me.
"Paper credentials" actually represent something you know. A degree is not a gift.
If I were doing the hiring I would certainly always put more value in a degree.
We are not talking about a degree vs. relevant experience. That comparison is simply unfair. I mean if that was fair, then you would be firing your employees every chance you got and replacing them with degreed people. But thats just stupid.
I disagree. The piece of paper is useful, no doubt about it, but if I was choosing between a non-degreed programmer with four years of relevant experience, working on significant real-world projects and one with a four-year degree degree plus some summer internships, it would be a no-brainer. In both cases, I'd also attempt to ascertain their competence myself, but in my experience, the real-world track record is far more valuable than the degree.
yes but you are nit picking. Good luck finding someone with the exact experience you are looking for. Now lets consider the case when you do NOT find someone with the exact experience you are looking for. Which is the more capable person since both will have to learn? Experience is no indicator of ones ability to learn. Plus of course when HR is doing the initial filtering...
And as for the local book store??? Yea, I could be a doctor too...
1. management changes 2. departmental reorganizations 3. cutbacks (yes I know degrees cost more, but try to justify firing one to HR)
Besides, I must say programming is very unique. On the one hand, programmers are gifted. not many people can do it. MANY with degrees can't do it well either.
But on the other hand, programming skill alone is not very usefull. In todays world outside of California, programming is like a 2nd language that goes along with your primary skill. Chemists, and electrical engineers, and doctors that can program have true ability. Its all about the architects these days, programming is on its way to India...
Considering they jus had their quarterly conference call, and a few days later, their SCO Forum, lots of conversation is to be expected. It will die down over the next week or so.
It may return when we finally get to see the REAL quarterly, and not just the conference. I mean the one that is submitted to the SEC.
1. why even make it socketed? Just build it in completely. The card matches the MB anyway, and by the time a new card comes out, its gonna require AGP10x or a newer model CPU anyway.
2. No because thats too much engineering for 1 company. Specialization is what is bringing all the great advancements. So as long as we can break out the video card, their will be more advancement.
3. You are better knowing the price for each individual piece and paying for them individually then paying one lump sum. The smaller you can break it down, the less money they can hide from your notice. Remember that when they try to add your tax and insurance into your mortgage payment.
Wake up. SCOX had their first profitable quarter ever 2 quarters ago. You can't do that off of $10.
Of course 1 of their 2 licensees actually received ~$5,000,000 in stock options for taking out the license. For all the real stuff you need to read their quarterly reports.
Read their quarterly filing. I believe they said they budgeted $500,000 for the year, and at last quarter report which was about a week ago, they were at ~$300,000. [note: the quarterly is not published yet AFAIK, but you can listen to the conference call.]
If they are claiming the GPL is invalid, the copyright holders of relevant software should be sending them personal letters telling them they are denied use of gcc, samba, apache, perl and all the other mainstays of modern computing that are released under the GPL. I'm not suggesting engaging in any illegal activity but what is kneaded here is attack rather than passive defence. Obviously the RedHat suit is a pretty good thing. The IBM counter suit I'm not sure about, there patent portfolio is a weapon that could just as easily be turned on us.
I disagree. It needs to be shown that the GPL can withstand this abuse on its own two feet. The license was designed to prevent destructive abuse, it should show that it can.
If the license needs to be modified to deal with this, then its flawed to begin with (and I don't believe it is).
This is just how I feel about the stupid Patriot (Treason) Act.
More sinisterly, integrating such a feature could spur folks to actually want broadband. And since AOL really does not provide broadband, its not in their best interest.
In other words, it will force people to learn what AOL really provides, and at what cost.
The movie industry suggested summer movies were just as sucky last year. Will you disagree?
They suggest that the warning of suckage is being disbursed much faster due to text messaging. As a result the impact of hyping garbage just to "buy your gross" as they put it, no longer is working.
While they don't disagree with the message, they still want the messenger dead.
I have a few ideas.
1. SPAM the text messaging system. 2. Halt the trading of text messages during the opening of high budget movies.
This already happens in detroit. Its optional. You get a discount if you do it. They come and put your AC on this second meter. That 2nd meter is at a reduced rate. The power company can cut that 2nd meter when power gets tight. Or they can have rolling black outs of just the AC systems.
DC is for local storage. Everything else is AC, as it is today with Solar and wind power. Well solar is DC generation & storage, and some homes use DC appliances as well. but in general the transmission is AC even when stored as DC.
This is the system currently used by those connected to the power grid that generate their own power when capable such as Solar, and Wind power.
power lines are AC. the higher the voltage during transmission, the less energy burned off in the power lines. Thats why their transmitted as high voltage, then stepped down at the house.
Totally agree. Anything is better than suffering the wasted wattage lost in the lines today. If everyone generated his own power, we would save billions!. This of course presumes efficient generation. I dont think todays consumer level equipment is near the efficiency of the big generators.
Anyway, I will be using solar energy in my next house. Though its not that big in Michigan.
Really? Because I thought MS has full licence to use their UNIX derivatives as they sought free? I direct your attention to the license they bought earlier this year.
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You seem to put no value whatsoever in a college degree, as if School is just a scam.
If you are looking for someone to code your 3d graphics engine, then of course you get the 3d graphics engine experienced person.
And here contract jobs are 80% targeted specific projects. But direct hires are general positions. Direct hires go to degreed people, contract go to experienced people. This is not what I would do, this is what happens in Michigan.
So are you talking about a programming 'position' or a programming 'task'?
This can not be the case. This is getting rediculous.
Were going to have to start diseminating slashdot stories on a staggered Timezone based schedule.
Well this is my observation. For contract jobs, experience is always better. For permanent hires, the degree wins out every time.
Well I think technically it was not part of the deal. Seperate, but it just happened at the same time. Hard to explain. its part of it, but its not, what can I say. Read their quarterly report and you will understand what I mean.
Its not like they are hiding this stuff, and someone actually brought this up in the last conference call about a week ago(quarterly performance report).
They are giving stock options with LOTS of their deals these days. or so it would seem to me.
"Paper credentials" actually represent something you know. A degree is not a gift.
If I were doing the hiring I would certainly always put more value in a degree.
We are not talking about a degree vs. relevant experience. That comparison is simply unfair. I mean if that was fair, then you would be firing your employees every chance you got and replacing them with degreed people. But thats just stupid.
I disagree. The piece of paper is useful, no doubt about it, but if I was choosing between a non-degreed programmer with four years of relevant experience, working on significant real-world projects and one with a four-year degree degree plus some summer internships, it would be a no-brainer. In both cases, I'd also attempt to ascertain their competence myself, but in my experience, the real-world track record is far more valuable than the degree.
yes but you are nit picking. Good luck finding someone with the exact experience you are looking for. Now lets consider the case when you do NOT find someone with the exact experience you are looking for. Which is the more capable person since both will have to learn? Experience is no indicator of ones ability to learn. Plus of course when HR is doing the initial filtering...
And as for the local book store??? Yea, I could be a doctor too...
Experience is limited, education is not.
Things that tend to kill undegreed employees;
1. management changes
2. departmental reorganizations
3. cutbacks (yes I know degrees cost more, but try to justify firing one to HR)
Besides, I must say programming is very unique. On the one hand, programmers are gifted. not many people can do it. MANY with degrees can't do it well either.
But on the other hand, programming skill alone is not very usefull. In todays world outside of California, programming is like a 2nd language that goes along with your primary skill. Chemists, and electrical engineers, and doctors that can program have true ability. Its all about the architects these days, programming is on its way to India...
Considering they jus had their quarterly conference call, and a few days later, their SCO Forum, lots of conversation is to be expected. It will die down over the next week or so.
It may return when we finally get to see the REAL quarterly, and not just the conference. I mean the one that is submitted to the SEC.
1. why even make it socketed? Just build it in completely. The card matches the MB anyway, and by the time a new card comes out, its gonna require AGP10x or a newer model CPU anyway.
2. No because thats too much engineering for 1 company. Specialization is what is bringing all the great advancements. So as long as we can break out the video card, their will be more advancement.
3. You are better knowing the price for each individual piece and paying for them individually then paying one lump sum. The smaller you can break it down, the less money they can hide from your notice. Remember that when they try to add your tax and insurance into your mortgage payment.
Your immunity is irrelevant. Your Linux box is coated with corbomite. You will pay us, or face the consequences.
Wake up. SCOX had their first profitable quarter ever 2 quarters ago. You can't do that off of $10.
Of course 1 of their 2 licensees actually received ~$5,000,000 in stock options for taking out the license. For all the real stuff you need to read their quarterly reports.
Read their quarterly filing. I believe they said they budgeted $500,000 for the year, and at last quarter report which was about a week ago, they were at ~$300,000. [note: the quarterly is not published yet AFAIK, but you can listen to the conference call.]
If they are claiming the GPL is invalid, the copyright holders of relevant software should be sending them personal letters telling them they are denied use of gcc, samba, apache, perl and all the other mainstays of modern computing that are released under the GPL. I'm not suggesting engaging in any illegal activity but what is kneaded here is attack rather than passive defence. Obviously the RedHat suit is a pretty good thing. The IBM counter suit I'm not sure about, there patent portfolio is a weapon that could just as easily be turned on us.
I disagree. It needs to be shown that the GPL can withstand this abuse on its own two feet. The license was designed to prevent destructive abuse, it should show that it can.
If the license needs to be modified to deal with this, then its flawed to begin with (and I don't believe it is).
This is just how I feel about the stupid Patriot (Treason) Act.
I don't get it. How is it going to sue linux users without showing them the code?
Patriot Act?
More sinisterly, integrating such a feature could spur folks to actually want broadband. And since AOL really does not provide broadband, its not in their best interest.
In other words, it will force people to learn what AOL really provides, and at what cost.
Fuck Thawte and his evil twin. If it ain't PGP, it ain't for me.
Once again, sing it with me now, "RTFA."
The movie industry suggested summer movies were just as sucky last year. Will you disagree?
They suggest that the warning of suckage is being disbursed much faster due to text messaging. As a result the impact of hyping garbage just to "buy your gross" as they put it, no longer is working.
While they don't disagree with the message, they still want the messenger dead.
I have a few ideas.
1. SPAM the text messaging system.
2. Halt the trading of text messages during the opening of high budget movies.
This already happens in detroit. Its optional. You get a discount if you do it. They come and put your AC on this second meter. That 2nd meter is at a reduced rate. The power company can cut that 2nd meter when power gets tight. Or they can have rolling black outs of just the AC systems.
Its a pretty good system.
DC is for local storage. Everything else is AC, as it is today with Solar and wind power. Well solar is DC generation & storage, and some homes use DC appliances as well. but in general the transmission is AC even when stored as DC.
This is the system currently used by those connected to the power grid that generate their own power when capable such as Solar, and Wind power.
power lines are AC. the higher the voltage during transmission, the less energy burned off in the power lines. Thats why their transmitted as high voltage, then stepped down at the house.
Totally agree. Anything is better than suffering the wasted wattage lost in the lines today. If everyone generated his own power, we would save billions!. This of course presumes efficient generation. I dont think todays consumer level equipment is near the efficiency of the big generators.
Anyway, I will be using solar energy in my next house. Though its not that big in Michigan.
Really? Because I thought MS has full licence to use their UNIX derivatives as they sought free? I direct your attention to the license they bought earlier this year.
BSD has little to do with the freedom to use UNIX 7. Only closed source UNIXes are UNIX III and UNIX SysV.
I may have my trade marks off a bit, but the 7 is public domain.
NO!? You mean like the stock options worth today about $5,000,000 they gave to the company that paid ~$3,000,000 for the first license?
Said book was specifically authorized by SCO.