Ah you see, I'm used to working for a school where the motto is to hire only what is nessesary (and sometimes they don't even do that). But it would seem to me the besic premise behind the idea would be followed by many hiring businesses.
Question: Can all or most the skills this person has be used for our benifit?
If the answer is yes, the person is hired, if the answer is no they're not. Like I said, if I only need someone to do XML, I don't need to be hiring someone with the knowledge of thousands of other skills unless I might need those other skills.
In any case though it really is a matter of what the company needs. If they need the skills, the person with more skills will be hired, but if they don't need the skills, they may just hire the person with a less rounded skill set.
I believe in hiring the resources you need. If I need a red crayon, and I can buy just a red crayon, why should I buy the whole box unless I think I'm going to need the other colors? Besides, the kid who only knows XML is probably cheaper to hire than the kid who knows everything.
Yeah, I think they even had a funky name for it too, what was it... oh yeah, revolution.
But seriously, this is a message that is predominate in human history. Prove to the people in power their power is not unlimited by disobeying the rules.
Secondly, regardless fo whether the content is shit, the board is popular in it's own user base and has been arround for a while. You don't just forget something like that.
As long as these students are non-traditional, they might as well go with non-traditional learning. I know there are a fe colleges which offer distance/internet learning. Often the cost is slightly less than actualy attending the college, at least that's what I've heard. The only downside I can see is it's sometimes hard to learn in your home.
On the whole job thing, the otherthing that could be attempted is to go to their current employer and ask them to fund their college tuition in exchange for a few years of guarenteed work.
this could actualy weed out some of the people that really shouldn't be in the course because the less they know, the further behind they will fall and eventualy they will drop out.
But also, more often then not, if I colaborate with another person on a simple program it's for one of two reasons
1) The program isn't doing somethign right, and I for the life of me can not see it (syntax is a pain in the ass, you can read the same line over and over again and not realize you put a : where you should have put a;
2) Because my function works, but rather poorly. If that's the case, I will often ask another student how they wrote theirs, and if any of it seems to work nicely, I will try to incorporate it myself. While I could do that simply by cut and paste, I would think most people (like myself) would try to understand why the new implimentation works better, and ask if they don't eunderstand.
Now thats not quite fair to say. You may be able to program the newest funky wizbang sort in C or C++ or whatever else. But can you write your own language? Can you program the computer in assembly? The whole idea of the computer is that you will only need to know that information which is pertinent to your job. If the newest XML is all the kid I'm hiring will need to know, then that's all he has to know. If he knows other coding as well, that's great, but I don't need it right now do I?
For one, this is actualy something that has been a part of human culture for as long as we can remember. I believe it was Therou (sp?) who talked about if the people did not agree with the laws, they should protest and not follow such a law. But the only reason to do so was if you truly felt the law was wrong, not just because it was an inconvenience.
Later prohibition was repealed becasue the majority of america would not follow the law.
Later Civil Disobedience was preached by Ghandi (sp?) and MLK.
Even directly in the structure of the government is the concept of laws not nessesarily having ultimate say. No law passed by congress can be enforced unless the President (or more often an office of the executive branch) enforces said law.
Somehow I don't think that the domain just "expired". When you run a web board like macslash you don't accidentaly let your domain name expire and not register it again.
So how does M$ keeps their domain names? I would think the evil empire would be a prime target for these domain snipers? Something must happen that allows M$ to maintain the reistration so what are they doing that macslash wasn't?
Right, I've got issues. And would you care to elaborate on how you reached that conclusion? Do you know my history or my story? Do you know the people that I know? Who apointed you God? No, the original post of this thread was in immensely poor taste. But just as the original poster had a right to post, so I had a right to respond. And just as I made no judgements of the original poster, so you should not make judgements of me.
The difference of course being that Apple did finaly give it up and let consumers have what they wanted. Not that it makes much of a difference. People who cared called it Fire Wire, people who didn't care, just bought their computers and didn't think much of it.
Apple did some huge marketing for the first Mac (the 1984 commercial is still one of the top 3 commercials of all time) It aired once and had arguably the biggest impact of any commercial on a new product. IEEE 1394 is the technical designation for the technology. (Mostly) everything that you use on a computer has an IEEE designation, you just don't see it. They did allow the name to be used, but for a lisenceing fee. Not the brightest move and Apple realized that it wasn't helping their tech at all, nor was it bringing in a usable revenue, so they drop the fee and open the lisence.
Xerox had a workng prototype of the GUI before Apple paid them a visit. True Apple was looking at an implimentation before hand, but they did get most of their later designs from Xerox. What makes the whole GUI histroy so funny was that PARC was really a place where Xerox developers could develop technology that was far to expensive to actualy impliment, and Xerox would take bits and pieces of what they developed, change it and impliment it. I think that's why Apple was able to so easily hire the Xerox employees, because they knew if they stuck to Xerox the GUI wouldn't go anywhere.
Not to be a pain about this, but I would be more willing to bet that the reason Fire Wire isn't as standard on PC's as it could be is that PC manufacturers (and users) tend to dislike a change in their standards, and like to keep everything. Case in point, USB. USB was an intel developed product (if I remember correctly) but it never appeared mainsteam untill Apple started selling USB only computers, then all of a sudden everyone was making USB devices. Even now it's ver hard to find a USB only PC, many still have PS/2 built in.
I'm sure the lisenseing had something to do with Firewire not being standardized, but I personaly think it has to do with resistance to change. After all, how else do you explain the continued (albiet rapidly diminishing) existance of ISA
Sorry, I had to contribute the story cause I knew that the editors wouldn't be able to resist. Besides, after having 4 rejections, I needed an accepted.
Welcome to the dark side! And if you're ever confused on something, don't be afraid to ask, we want to keep new mac users, not make them feel dumb and scare them off.
Last I knew there were in somewhere's between 40 and 50 classic virus' , many of which did not run on PPC macs and many which didn't run after system 9. The most prevalent virus on classic (not counting the auto start worm) was the MDEF virus and it's varients. And this virus wasn't even malicious, most of the varients simply annoyed you with random system beeps. Only the D varient (I may be wrong on this one) did anythign truly evil, causing internet programs to randomly crash.
Last I knew, OS X had 3 X specific virus'/vunerabilities and one of those was a flaw in IE
OS X does have a couple of security flaws to contend with. Nicely though, they have root logins turned off by default to protect the uninitiated. Ironicaly, if memory serves me correctly, the first major security flaw in OS X was found to be in IE.
Forcing it upon you my ass. If the original pristien telling of Star Wars is so sacred to you (and if you're a true star wars fan) you would already own the original versions, the THX remastered versions, and the special editions. If you want it on DVD, you've already made a copy from your original VHS, cleaned it up some a burnt your own DVD. Lucas isn't forcing jack shit on you, you're buying it because you want to.
The parent of this thread was in exteemly poor taste. I am rather open when it comes to people expressing "humor" and opinions in potentialy offensive ways, but when I read the original post, the hairs on the back of my neck stood straighter than a telephone pole.
The difference of course being, he has to come back. And once he does that, he's making threats on your life an can be arrested. I think the guy did a good thing, sure it might have been better if he was armed with a rather large firearm, but it got the desired results, the girl was left alone (and hopefuly will avoid the guy from now on) and the guy shit his pants.
Last I checked, switzerland had no standing army. They have a civil defense network, but no standing army. And they seem to be holding up pretty well. Actualy, the idea of a governing body with no specific army, but rather individual units of defence has been toyed with and explored before. The US toyed with the idea while forming the constitution, and for the longest time, the formation of a standing army was resisted. In fact it wasn't until WW I untill the US actualy had a standing army of any real size. Timothy Zahn explored this concept in his book Cobra in which he establishes an empire with loosely connected armies, held together only by common interest. Most ruling bodies do not really need an army, just a powerful presense and a handful of intimidating enforcers. It wasn't the Nazi army per se that kept Hitler's territories in line, it was his Gestapo. The same could apply to the Republic. No need for a standing army if a thousand+ Jedi are powerful enough to keep people under some semblance of control.
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Ah you see, I'm used to working for a school where the motto is to hire only what is nessesary (and sometimes they don't even do that). But it would seem to me the besic premise behind the idea would be followed by many hiring businesses.
Question: Can all or most the skills this person has be used for our benifit?
If the answer is yes, the person is hired, if the answer is no they're not. Like I said, if I only need someone to do XML, I don't need to be hiring someone with the knowledge of thousands of other skills unless I might need those other skills.
In any case though it really is a matter of what the company needs. If they need the skills, the person with more skills will be hired, but if they don't need the skills, they may just hire the person with a less rounded skill set.
I came across this one day and book marked it because it was worth it. It sort of pertains to the licensing story and to the college story:
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http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.htm
I believe in hiring the resources you need. If I need a red crayon, and I can buy just a red crayon, why should I buy the whole box unless I think I'm going to need the other colors? Besides, the kid who only knows XML is probably cheaper to hire than the kid who knows everything.
Yeah, I think they even had a funky name for it too, what was it... oh yeah, revolution.
But seriously, this is a message that is predominate in human history. Prove to the people in power their power is not unlimited by disobeying the rules.
atypically useless
Pardon me but, what the hell does that mean?
Secondly, regardless fo whether the content is shit, the board is popular in it's own user base and has been arround for a while. You don't just forget something like that.
As long as these students are non-traditional, they might as well go with non-traditional learning. I know there are a fe colleges which offer distance/internet learning. Often the cost is slightly less than actualy attending the college, at least that's what I've heard. The only downside I can see is it's sometimes hard to learn in your home.
On the whole job thing, the otherthing that could be attempted is to go to their current employer and ask them to fund their college tuition in exchange for a few years of guarenteed work.
this could actualy weed out some of the people that really shouldn't be in the course because the less they know, the further behind they will fall and eventualy they will drop out.
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But also, more often then not, if I colaborate with another person on a simple program it's for one of two reasons
1) The program isn't doing somethign right, and I for the life of me can not see it (syntax is a pain in the ass, you can read the same line over and over again and not realize you put a : where you should have put a
2) Because my function works, but rather poorly. If that's the case, I will often ask another student how they wrote theirs, and if any of it seems to work nicely, I will try to incorporate it myself. While I could do that simply by cut and paste, I would think most people (like myself) would try to understand why the new implimentation works better, and ask if they don't eunderstand.
Now thats not quite fair to say. You may be able to program the newest funky wizbang sort in C or C++ or whatever else. But can you write your own language? Can you program the computer in assembly? The whole idea of the computer is that you will only need to know that information which is pertinent to your job. If the newest XML is all the kid I'm hiring will need to know, then that's all he has to know. If he knows other coding as well, that's great, but I don't need it right now do I?
For one, this is actualy something that has been a part of human culture for as long as we can remember. I believe it was Therou (sp?) who talked about if the people did not agree with the laws, they should protest and not follow such a law. But the only reason to do so was if you truly felt the law was wrong, not just because it was an inconvenience.
Later prohibition was repealed becasue the majority of america would not follow the law.
Later Civil Disobedience was preached by Ghandi (sp?) and MLK.
Even directly in the structure of the government is the concept of laws not nessesarily having ultimate say. No law passed by congress can be enforced unless the President (or more often an office of the executive branch) enforces said law.
Somehow I don't think that the domain just "expired". When you run a web board like macslash you don't accidentaly let your domain name expire and not register it again.
So how does M$ keeps their domain names? I would think the evil empire would be a prime target for these domain snipers? Something must happen that allows M$ to maintain the reistration so what are they doing that macslash wasn't?
Right, I've got issues. And would you care to elaborate on how you reached that conclusion? Do you know my history or my story? Do you know the people that I know? Who apointed you God? No, the original post of this thread was in immensely poor taste. But just as the original poster had a right to post, so I had a right to respond. And just as I made no judgements of the original poster, so you should not make judgements of me.
The difference of course being that Apple did finaly give it up and let consumers have what they wanted. Not that it makes much of a difference. People who cared called it Fire Wire, people who didn't care, just bought their computers and didn't think much of it.
Apple did some huge marketing for the first Mac (the 1984 commercial is still one of the top 3 commercials of all time) It aired once and had arguably the biggest impact of any commercial on a new product. IEEE 1394 is the technical designation for the technology. (Mostly) everything that you use on a computer has an IEEE designation, you just don't see it. They did allow the name to be used, but for a lisenceing fee. Not the brightest move and Apple realized that it wasn't helping their tech at all, nor was it bringing in a usable revenue, so they drop the fee and open the lisence.
Xerox had a workng prototype of the GUI before Apple paid them a visit. True Apple was looking at an implimentation before hand, but they did get most of their later designs from Xerox. What makes the whole GUI histroy so funny was that PARC was really a place where Xerox developers could develop technology that was far to expensive to actualy impliment, and Xerox would take bits and pieces of what they developed, change it and impliment it. I think that's why Apple was able to so easily hire the Xerox employees, because they knew if they stuck to Xerox the GUI wouldn't go anywhere.
Not to be a pain about this, but I would be more willing to bet that the reason Fire Wire isn't as standard on PC's as it could be is that PC manufacturers (and users) tend to dislike a change in their standards, and like to keep everything. Case in point, USB. USB was an intel developed product (if I remember correctly) but it never appeared mainsteam untill Apple started selling USB only computers, then all of a sudden everyone was making USB devices. Even now it's ver hard to find a USB only PC, many still have PS/2 built in.
I'm sure the lisenseing had something to do with Firewire not being standardized, but I personaly think it has to do with resistance to change. After all, how else do you explain the continued (albiet rapidly diminishing) existance of ISA
Sorry, I had to contribute the story cause I knew that the editors wouldn't be able to resist. Besides, after having 4 rejections, I needed an accepted.
Welcome to the dark side! And if you're ever confused on something, don't be afraid to ask, we want to keep new mac users, not make them feel dumb and scare them off.
Last I knew there were in somewhere's between 40 and 50 classic virus' , many of which did not run on PPC macs and many which didn't run after system 9. The most prevalent virus on classic (not counting the auto start worm) was the MDEF virus and it's varients. And this virus wasn't even malicious, most of the varients simply annoyed you with random system beeps. Only the D varient (I may be wrong on this one) did anythign truly evil, causing internet programs to randomly crash.
Last I knew, OS X had 3 X specific virus'/vunerabilities and one of those was a flaw in IE
OS X does have a couple of security flaws to contend with. Nicely though, they have root logins turned off by default to protect the uninitiated. Ironicaly, if memory serves me correctly, the first major security flaw in OS X was found to be in IE.
Forcing it upon you my ass. If the original pristien telling of Star Wars is so sacred to you (and if you're a true star wars fan) you would already own the original versions, the THX remastered versions, and the special editions. If you want it on DVD, you've already made a copy from your original VHS, cleaned it up some a burnt your own DVD. Lucas isn't forcing jack shit on you, you're buying it because you want to.
The parent of this thread was in exteemly poor taste. I am rather open when it comes to people expressing "humor" and opinions in potentialy offensive ways, but when I read the original post, the hairs on the back of my neck stood straighter than a telephone pole.
The difference of course being, he has to come back. And once he does that, he's making threats on your life an can be arrested. I think the guy did a good thing, sure it might have been better if he was armed with a rather large firearm, but it got the desired results, the girl was left alone (and hopefuly will avoid the guy from now on) and the guy shit his pants.
Last I checked, switzerland had no standing army. They have a civil defense network, but no standing army. And they seem to be holding up pretty well. Actualy, the idea of a governing body with no specific army, but rather individual units of defence has been toyed with and explored before. The US toyed with the idea while forming the constitution, and for the longest time, the formation of a standing army was resisted. In fact it wasn't until WW I untill the US actualy had a standing army of any real size. Timothy Zahn explored this concept in his book Cobra in which he establishes an empire with loosely connected armies, held together only by common interest. Most ruling bodies do not really need an army, just a powerful presense and a handful of intimidating enforcers. It wasn't the Nazi army per se that kept Hitler's territories in line, it was his Gestapo. The same could apply to the Republic. No need for a standing army if a thousand+ Jedi are powerful enough to keep people under some semblance of control.