Because the first time someone logs in and is presented with a blank screen and a console, they're going to go find another computer. Why do you think there's a start menu in windows? Why do you think the hard drive is on the dektop and there's an apple menu in mac OS? To give the user a starting point. To say that's where I want to start from.
fvwm is the reason why the suns at my school get no use from anyone except the linux geeks, even though all the machines run a form of *NIX.
Very simply put, transparency is actualy a creat thing to have at times. I love being able to code something while looking at the prototypes beneath the window. Likewise, being able to turn a window transparent or translucent when you're trying to quote something from another window is also a god send. Just because you don't have a use for a feature doesn't make it a bad feature.
While it's true that Creative had the first HDD based player, it wasn't going very far, I had a friend who had one, and the thing was like a tank, and no one wanted one, especialy when they heard it's price tag. But then Apple came along an redefined portable HDD based MP3 players, and the market took off, which is why Apple is given a lot of the credit
To start this isn't a troll people. Anyways, I actualy woudl prefer if things remained seperate. Console for games, PC for pron and stuff, phone for phone calls, VCR for VHS and DVD player for DVDs. Integration is only good up to a point, and I think a lot of places are reaching that point. ANd sometimes we're cramming things where they dont' belong (date books in cell phones, games in PDAs and PCs in consoles. Some cross is nice (PS2 can play DVDs, computer can keep track of dates) but in the end, I like Apple's solution (or their vision of the solution, all sorts of individual devices and programs to do their task, and a central device (your computer) to manage them all.
Apple will only get into it if there is something new and better they can offer. That's why they got into the MP3 market when there was already a decent market, because there wasn't a small (as in deck of cards small) fast and simple HDD based MP3 player out there.
But what really is there to add to the console market? Expandability? Tried and failed (see N64) people don't like having to pay to keep their consoles current. Hard drives and mice? PS2 and Xbox. Portability? Gameboy owns all. The only thing apple could possibly stand to offer would be lower prices ($50+ for a console game is damn expensive if you ask me) but then again, this is apple we're talking about.
The XBox was sort of a self fufilling prophecy and could only happen once. IT arrived riding on the whispers of Halo because Halo was supposed to be a PC/Mac game (remember Bungie) and then was supposedly killed on everything except the XBox only to be brought back after the XBox sold. Now these people have machines they spent money on, and they're going to make their investment worthwhile by buying games for it. But in all, I don't think the Xbox will hold on in the long run. Of course, I could be wrong, but I predicted the downfall of sega (as a hardware unit) back when SNES was all the rage. Of course, past performance isn't indicative of future performance and I give no guarantees.
Kinda like how to run the Cisco IOS, you have to use Cisco hardware? Or to use Verizon phone software, you have use Verizon phones? Or to use XBox software, you have to use an XBox? Or to use PS 2 software you have to use a PS2?
Here's a hint dumbass, Microsoft is a SOFTWARE company, their business is to sell SOFTWARE.
Apple is a HARDWARE company, their business is to sell HARDWARE.
The only reason Apple has software is to run their hardware.
I didn't say OSS was anti american, I said it doesn't benefit from it which is exactly what the article said:
"Open source benefits from anti-American sentiments."
OSS DOES NOT BENEFIT FROM ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT. People may use the software because of it, but OSS as a whole is only harmed by political statements that aren't of a software nature.
2. You look at it from an utter American point of view, your point of view is not shared by a large majority of people outside the USA.
Last but not least, you make the rather big mistake of confusing 'disagreement' with beign anti American.
You better read up a bit of your history, having different opinions and disagreeing with eachother are allowed in a democratic society, and in fact are fundamental for such a society to function.
Regardless, you can believe what you want, no issue there. Takign issue with soemone elses belies? well, come up with arguments instead of sentiment and maybe soem peopel might even be willing to listen to it.
The point is though, anti anything attitude isn't going to help OSS. OSS shouldn't be anti anything except the closing of it's source. Anything else turns OSS into a political statement that it shouldn't be. One of the things that helps OSS thrive is a sense of no boundries. Linux happens because of people all over the world, but if the culture surrounding the OSS comunity starts developing anti- sentiments, you will use developers from those countries, you'll lose support from people in those countries, and you'll add another spike of unhealthy conflict.
Xerox got something like $1,000,000 in Apple stock for access to their dev teams and information about the designs.
Jobs told Xerox:
"I will let you invest a million dollars in Apple if you will sort of open the kimono at Xerox PARC" And Xerox agreed buying 100,000 shares of Apple stock at $10 a piece, which later split to 800,000 shares worth 17.6 million when Apple went public[1]
In regards to Apple "stealing" the interface, PARC's director said: "Just like the Russians and the A bomb; they developed it very quickly once they knew it was doable."[2]
[1] Apple Confidential by Owen Linzmayer P. 53 [2] P. 54
With the exception of your password box again. If you just press the letter to run the controls, and one of the options is "OK" how do you type the password omoikane?
Mouse keys works perfectly. In case you don't know, mouse keys is a setting found in the Mac OS (and has been there for a long time) which allows you to use the keyboard to control your mouse.
Catching up? The mac os has had built in text to speech features since OS 7.5 at least. In 7.5 you could have any document on screen read back to you. Mac OS 8 added the feature to onscreen buttons and dialouge boxes. This is a full screen reader, as in every part of the screen from menues to buttons to dialouge boxes to web pages to applications.
It's not just Linux user groups either. My university is currently in the process of purchasing 3 new x serves to go along with all the macs that the teachers have been buying. Or to put it differently, the last time this school (other than the design dept) bought macs in any significant number was some early iMacs for infor terminals arround campus. Recently, we just negotiated a bulk purchasing agreement with Apple for the whole engineering and math departments. In all, I'd say from where I sit, Apple's doing damn good for themselves.
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When was the G5 xServe announced? Does anyone care now that it is finally shipping?
It was announced in Jan: See here (I think).
And VT cares. As does a my local university.
When is the PowerMac going to be updated?
In the very near future. When? No one can say for sure.
When is there to be a G5 iMac?
Not for a while
Why does Apple still make the eMac?
Because not all schools want LCD monitors for their kids to poke pins into
When are the horribly outdated (aside from the largest size) LCD monitors going to be getting refreshed?
Not untill the resolution becomes too small.
Will Apple ever make a multi-button mouse?
Not likely
Because the first time someone logs in and is presented with a blank screen and a console, they're going to go find another computer. Why do you think there's a start menu in windows? Why do you think the hard drive is on the dektop and there's an apple menu in mac OS? To give the user a starting point. To say that's where I want to start from.
fvwm is the reason why the suns at my school get no use from anyone except the linux geeks, even though all the machines run a form of *NIX.
So you of course know everythign about how your TV, your radio, your car, your washing machine and your microwave works right?
Very simply put, transparency is actualy a creat thing to have at times. I love being able to code something while looking at the prototypes beneath the window. Likewise, being able to turn a window transparent or translucent when you're trying to quote something from another window is also a god send. Just because you don't have a use for a feature doesn't make it a bad feature.
While it's true that Creative had the first HDD based player, it wasn't going very far, I had a friend who had one, and the thing was like a tank, and no one wanted one, especialy when they heard it's price tag. But then Apple came along an redefined portable HDD based MP3 players, and the market took off, which is why Apple is given a lot of the credit
To start this isn't a troll people. Anyways, I actualy woudl prefer if things remained seperate. Console for games, PC for pron and stuff, phone for phone calls, VCR for VHS and DVD player for DVDs. Integration is only good up to a point, and I think a lot of places are reaching that point. ANd sometimes we're cramming things where they dont' belong (date books in cell phones, games in PDAs and PCs in consoles. Some cross is nice (PS2 can play DVDs, computer can keep track of dates) but in the end, I like Apple's solution (or their vision of the solution, all sorts of individual devices and programs to do their task, and a central device (your computer) to manage them all.
Apple will only get into it if there is something new and better they can offer. That's why they got into the MP3 market when there was already a decent market, because there wasn't a small (as in deck of cards small) fast and simple HDD based MP3 player out there.
But what really is there to add to the console market? Expandability? Tried and failed (see N64) people don't like having to pay to keep their consoles current. Hard drives and mice? PS2 and Xbox. Portability? Gameboy owns all. The only thing apple could possibly stand to offer would be lower prices ($50+ for a console game is damn expensive if you ask me) but then again, this is apple we're talking about.
The XBox was sort of a self fufilling prophecy and could only happen once. IT arrived riding on the whispers of Halo because Halo was supposed to be a PC/Mac game (remember Bungie) and then was supposedly killed on everything except the XBox only to be brought back after the XBox sold. Now these people have machines they spent money on, and they're going to make their investment worthwhile by buying games for it. But in all, I don't think the Xbox will hold on in the long run. Of course, I could be wrong, but I predicted the downfall of sega (as a hardware unit) back when SNES was all the rage. Of course, past performance isn't indicative of future performance and I give no guarantees.
Because we all know that Apple's choice of the DRM will be the DRM they use. How do you know they won't develop their own version in house?
Kinda like how to run the Cisco IOS, you have to use Cisco hardware? Or to use Verizon phone software, you have use Verizon phones? Or to use XBox software, you have to use an XBox? Or to use PS 2 software you have to use a PS2?
Here's a hint dumbass, Microsoft is a SOFTWARE company, their business is to sell SOFTWARE.
Apple is a HARDWARE company, their business is to sell HARDWARE.
The only reason Apple has software is to run their hardware.
I didn't say OSS was anti american, I said it doesn't benefit from it which is exactly what the article said:
"Open source benefits from anti-American sentiments."
OSS DOES NOT BENEFIT FROM ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT. People may use the software because of it, but OSS as a whole is only harmed by political statements that aren't of a software nature.
Does anyone besides me find this as stupid and moronic as "Freedom Fries"
2. You look at it from an utter American point of view, your point of view is not shared by a large majority of people outside the USA.
Last but not least, you make the rather big mistake of confusing 'disagreement' with beign anti American.
You better read up a bit of your history, having different opinions and disagreeing with eachother
are allowed in a democratic society, and in fact are fundamental for such a society to function.
Regardless, you can believe what you want, no issue there. Takign issue with soemone elses belies? well, come up with arguments instead of sentiment and maybe soem peopel might even be willing to listen to it.
The point is though, anti anything attitude isn't going to help OSS. OSS shouldn't be anti anything except the closing of it's source. Anything else turns OSS into a political statement that it shouldn't be. One of the things that helps OSS thrive is a sense of no boundries. Linux happens because of people all over the world, but if the culture surrounding the OSS comunity starts developing anti- sentiments, you will use developers from those countries, you'll lose support from people in those countries, and you'll add another spike of unhealthy conflict.
The internet is more than a bunch of web servers.
Xerox got something like $1,000,000 in Apple stock for access to their dev teams and information about the designs.
Jobs told Xerox:
"I will let you invest a million dollars in Apple if you will sort of open the kimono at Xerox PARC" And Xerox agreed buying 100,000 shares of Apple stock at $10 a piece, which later split to 800,000 shares worth 17.6 million when Apple went public[1]
In regards to Apple "stealing" the interface, PARC's director said:
"Just like the Russians and the A bomb; they developed it very quickly once they knew it was doable."[2]
[1] Apple Confidential by Owen Linzmayer P. 53
[2] P. 54
So then the complaint isnt't that the OS is inaccessable, it's that you don't like the way it's implimented.
With the exception of your password box again. If you just press the letter to run the controls, and one of the options is
"OK" how do you type the password omoikane?
Mouse keys works perfectly. In case you don't know, mouse keys is a setting found in the Mac OS (and has been there for a long time) which allows you to use the keyboard to control your mouse.
Catching up? The mac os has had built in text to speech features since OS 7.5 at least. In 7.5 you could have any document on screen read back to you. Mac OS 8 added the feature to onscreen buttons and dialouge boxes. This is a full screen reader, as in every part of the screen from menues to buttons to dialouge boxes to web pages to applications.
How did you get safari to block to ads for slashdot? They're still there for me.
True but adobe quit.
And don't you remember the 80's? Winners never quit.
Obviously you've never seen the longest line
If that isn't being strong I don't know what is.
It's not just Linux user groups either. My university is currently in the process of purchasing 3 new x serves to go along with all the macs that the teachers have been buying. Or to put it differently, the last time this school (other than the design dept) bought macs in any significant number was some early iMacs for infor terminals arround campus. Recently, we just negotiated a bulk purchasing agreement with Apple for the whole engineering and math departments. In all, I'd say from where I sit, Apple's doing damn good for themselves.
Look into a little piece of software called SideTrack and all your worries of only one button will be washed away.