places the band into an unforgiving contract that forces them into servitude and then gouges the consumer in the stores. Geez man where did you get your info?
Oh and BTW way you can't get a 5:Informative for mentioning the RIAA in a semi positive way--THIS IS SLASHDOT MAN!
Being a fiber install I have to tell you you're dead wrong. I don't know much about Brewster's millions or whatever but glass fiber IS FRAGILE. When you stip it to put connectors on it that stuff snaps right off and gets stuck in your fingers. You have to re strip it 2 or 3 times sometimes before you get a connector on it.
And elastic...NO. If your try to pull fiber optic cable through conduits without using the included kevlar string (it's not there to make it bulletproof) you will stretch it out. Once stretched it is useless. If it were elastic then it would spring back to it's original diameter but it doesn't. You just wasted cable and man hours. Now having the plastic cladding does allow you to do some tighter curves but officially I think it's like 30 times the diameter of the cable is the smallest bend possible. We use pretty generous raduises for our cables and NOTHING angular. Trying to do a perfect 90 degree curve is asking for breakage. When handling it you can toss it around when it's spooled up and whatnot but don't do crap like step on it. You can crush it. Don't play tug of war with it. Stuff like that. Glass is fragile. Drop a glass on a tile floor and see how elastic it is. Oh and one more thing, you said: "think of fiberglass" Well I have thought of fiber glass and that stuff will snap on you in a heart beat. Even things like fishing poles and CB antennas that are supposed to bend will snap off if you try a tight bend. And how many of us have cracked bumpers and fenders on our crappy 80's camaros cause we leaned on them or dinged the curb. Certainly not bendy.
Your point on angles of incidence and whatnot might be valid but theary doesn't apply to actually using fiber. It is fragile. You can break it. And don't stretch it.
Being a certified fiber optics technician I can tell you that fiber HAS ALWAYS BEEN MADE OF PLASTIC. It just wasn't as good as glass. Most of the plastic fibers were only useable in multi-mode cables as opposed to the less lossy single mode fibers that most of us think we are familiar with. But actually most of us have seen the cheapo plastic cable of home theater systems for the audio I/O. Cheap plastic is also what all your Star Trek Enterprise models have in them or those dorky bushy things they sell at Spencer's that light up and we stare at while we're high. All plastic. Unless you actually have a switch or router connected via fiber I doubt most people have worked with actual glass fiber cables.
Now the article was, of course, very short on detail so maybe they've made plastic fiber good enough for single model operation. I dunno. But fiber has been pretty cheap for the past couple years. That isn't the problem. It's the finishing($20/hr minimum labor) and the connectors($5-10 each-some more) that cost so much. Even the test equipment can set your back a good bit. Our electric company has a $30,000 OTDR test set and I don't even know how much their fusion splicer was (but since it came in it's own trailer I cringe at the thought). I suppose though that cheaper is always better so if you can get fiber for 2 cents a foot somebody will buy it. But until connectors, technicians, and test equipment costs come down, I don't see many businesses jumping on the bandwagon. Fiber network cards and routers, etc. are pretty darned high and unless you need just ass loads of bandwidth most company's settle for 100BT networks.
Hope this clears up a few things but to re-emphesize my point: Plastic fiber is not new news.
Good. Looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't buy this guys load of crap. Could he be a little more vauge. What is he afraid that his communist regime will come to his house and kill him or something? Sounds more like a college student needs his thesis written for him.
Is it just me or does anyone else need more than 2 or 3 paragraphs to really believe this? I mean where's the details? A few photos or something please! Otherwise it's all just speculation. Hell I could write an article saying I invented cloaking technology in a few paragraphs. Looks like more vaporware to me.
BRAVO Mr. Milo Mindbender. I congradulate you on your new internship at some pathetic marketing company. I know the economy is tough right now and finding a tech job is hard so you had to take what you could find. But please, passing on your research and marketing work to/. to figure out for you is pretty lazy. I know you need to fast track your way up in the company to pay your bills but maybe you should have payed more attention in college (assuming you went to college) and learned to think for yourself and use your own thinking skills to come up with a good way to make people pay attention to annoying commercials. Your question sounded like a troll to me and I reply with a troll. Your move.
If M$ did patent 1's & 0's then there would be an easy way around it...call them ons & offs or highs & lows unless of course M$ patented those too. Then again 1's & 0's don't look like 1's & 0's inside the chip so I guess thier patent is really just against engineers who write that crap down....
Sorry but I am hard pressed to find ANYTHING fresh & innovating about her music. As a matter of fact it sounds like more Bonnie Raitt/Sheryl Crow country/rock shit. I am sure it's what she loves and so I can't knock her for that but as for me, kicks ass it DOES NOT.
BTW did anyone else notice how depressing sounding it was...hell I didn't even pay attention to all the words and it still made me want to lie down and die....
would I want to live on a cable 5 miles up? These things will be made by humans. Historically stuff made by humans break...and break often. So I am sittin on my couch watchin the Simpsons and suddenly the cable breaks and I get slingshot out into space...or worse yet I fall back down to earth in a horrible fiery crash. Gravity tends to keep my house pretty securely attached to the ground so my likelyhood of crashing into said earth is pretty low unless a sinkhole or earthquake hits. I figure that probability is WAY lower than a carbon cable breaking so I think I'll just watch the Simpsons from the ground.
Actually I think most of the things we have today are because of the ideas in books/movies/etc. Not becuase some writer "predicted" it but because some reader thought "man it would be cool to have one of those communicator thingys" and so he made one. I doubt most writers are ahead of thier time but they have damn good ideas which us ubergeeks latch on to and make a reality. Mark my words, one day some geek will beat his brains out until warp engines are cruising ships around the galaxy not because Gene Roddenberry had some kinda vision of the future but because his idea seemed like it made some sense and sparked the brain of a few fans.
That post was funny as hell...troll....I don't think so. Just because you mention Goatse.cx doesn't make it a troll. Besides I kinda think Goatse is one of those running inside/. jokes
MOD IT UP MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
When I got my cable, the prospects were full 24 hour online connections, blazing speed, and all the B/W I could handle. Now that the cable guys have a huge customer base they suddenly realize they shot their mouths off and can't give us what they promised. It would be like Chevy offereing a new car that they claimed got 80 mpg on the cheapest gas and then after selling a few hundred thousand admitting that the car really gets only 20 mpg and thats on the expensive gas.
Hey, I'll admit it, I D/L lots o stuff from new games to new cd's. THAT'S WHY I GOT CABLE. If they decide to penalize me for using my cable for what I got it for then I'll drop it and go back to my $10/month dial up. Why else would someone buy cable? You don't need it to view web pages or get your email. You buy it to D/L shit at lightning speeds.
So I drop my cable for dial up again. Does that mean I'll rush down to Best Buy to get all the latest greatest Britney Sucks album or The Sims #47: Nice Coffin. NOPE. I never did it before I had cable and I'm not gonna start. I just can't afford $60 bucks a game or $20 a cd. My only treat IS cable. So I'll do without like I always did and go back to my goal of a hundredth level Sorceress on Diablo 2 and play it till I can't stand it anymore.
Either way just because they stopped my piracy doesn't mean thier sales will sudenly skyrocket and I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way. Let the cable company screw up thier business model. They have a good product but as with all things I'll drop it for something better if I'm not satisfied. Or I'll do without. PERIOD.
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places the band into an unforgiving contract that forces them into servitude and then gouges the consumer in the stores. Geez man where did you get your info?
Oh and BTW way you can't get a 5:Informative for mentioning the RIAA in a semi positive way--THIS IS SLASHDOT MAN!
Being a fiber install I have to tell you you're dead wrong. I don't know much about Brewster's millions or whatever but glass fiber IS FRAGILE. When you stip it to put connectors on it that stuff snaps right off and gets stuck in your fingers. You have to re strip it 2 or 3 times sometimes before you get a connector on it.
And elastic...NO. If your try to pull fiber optic cable through conduits without using the included kevlar string (it's not there to make it bulletproof) you will stretch it out. Once stretched it is useless. If it were elastic then it would spring back to it's original diameter but it doesn't. You just wasted cable and man hours. Now having the plastic cladding does allow you to do some tighter curves but officially I think it's like 30 times the diameter of the cable is the smallest bend possible. We use pretty generous raduises for our cables and NOTHING angular. Trying to do a perfect 90 degree curve is asking for breakage. When handling it you can toss it around when it's spooled up and whatnot but don't do crap like step on it. You can crush it. Don't play tug of war with it. Stuff like that. Glass is fragile. Drop a glass on a tile floor and see how elastic it is. Oh and one more thing, you said:
"think of fiberglass"
Well I have thought of fiber glass and that stuff will snap on you in a heart beat. Even things like fishing poles and CB antennas that are supposed to bend will snap off if you try a tight bend. And how many of us have cracked bumpers and fenders on our crappy 80's camaros cause we leaned on them or dinged the curb. Certainly not bendy.
Your point on angles of incidence and whatnot might be valid but theary doesn't apply to actually using fiber. It is fragile. You can break it. And don't stretch it.
Being a certified fiber optics technician I can tell you that fiber HAS ALWAYS BEEN MADE OF PLASTIC. It just wasn't as good as glass. Most of the plastic fibers were only useable in multi-mode cables as opposed to the less lossy single mode fibers that most of us think we are familiar with. But actually most of us have seen the cheapo plastic cable of home theater systems for the audio I/O. Cheap plastic is also what all your Star Trek Enterprise models have in them or those dorky bushy things they sell at Spencer's that light up and we stare at while we're high. All plastic. Unless you actually have a switch or router connected via fiber I doubt most people have worked with actual glass fiber cables.
Now the article was, of course, very short on detail so maybe they've made plastic fiber good enough for single model operation. I dunno. But fiber has been pretty cheap for the past couple years. That isn't the problem. It's the finishing($20/hr minimum labor) and the connectors($5-10 each-some more) that cost so much. Even the test equipment can set your back a good bit. Our electric company has a $30,000 OTDR test set and I don't even know how much their fusion splicer was (but since it came in it's own trailer I cringe at the thought). I suppose though that cheaper is always better so if you can get fiber for 2 cents a foot somebody will buy it. But until connectors, technicians, and test equipment costs come down, I don't see many businesses jumping on the bandwagon. Fiber network cards and routers, etc. are pretty darned high and unless you need just ass loads of bandwidth most company's settle for 100BT networks.
Hope this clears up a few things but to re-emphesize my point: Plastic fiber is not new news.
MOD this crap down! It is a cut & paste troll from this link:
http://spiralx.dyndns.org/texts/troll1.html
Check it out on google. He's Karma Whoring. AND BTW IT WASN'T FUNNY. It sounded like some maniac touting gun owners rights again....you people....
Good. Looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't buy this guys load of crap. Could he be a little more vauge. What is he afraid that his communist regime will come to his house and kill him or something? Sounds more like a college student needs his thesis written for him.
Is it just me or does anyone else need more than 2 or 3 paragraphs to really believe this? I mean where's the details? A few photos or something please! Otherwise it's all just speculation. Hell I could write an article saying I invented cloaking technology in a few paragraphs. Looks like more vaporware to me.
At least Duke Nuke 3D had some screenshots.....
BRAVO Mr. Milo Mindbender. I congradulate you on your new internship at some pathetic marketing company. I know the economy is tough right now and finding a tech job is hard so you had to take what you could find. But please, passing on your research and marketing work to /. to figure out for you is pretty lazy. I know you need to fast track your way up in the company to pay your bills but maybe you should have payed more attention in college (assuming you went to college) and learned to think for yourself and use your own thinking skills to come up with a good way to make people pay attention to annoying commercials. Your question sounded like a troll to me and I reply with a troll. Your move.
Hey I thought obligatory Simpsons quotes always got modded at least 3 Funny
I think that was supposed to be sarcasm....
If M$ did patent 1's & 0's then there would be an easy way around it...call them ons & offs or highs & lows unless of course M$ patented those too. Then again 1's & 0's don't look like 1's & 0's inside the chip so I guess thier patent is really just against engineers who write that crap down....
Sorry but I am hard pressed to find ANYTHING fresh & innovating about her music. As a matter of fact it sounds like more Bonnie Raitt/Sheryl Crow country/rock shit. I am sure it's what she loves and so I can't knock her for that but as for me, kicks ass it DOES NOT. BTW did anyone else notice how depressing sounding it was...hell I didn't even pay attention to all the words and it still made me want to lie down and die....
For those of us who don't have one of those cell phones implanted in our ass, WTF is SMS?
would I want to live on a cable 5 miles up? These things will be made by humans. Historically stuff made by humans break...and break often. So I am sittin on my couch watchin the Simpsons and suddenly the cable breaks and I get slingshot out into space...or worse yet I fall back down to earth in a horrible fiery crash. Gravity tends to keep my house pretty securely attached to the ground so my likelyhood of crashing into said earth is pretty low unless a sinkhole or earthquake hits. I figure that probability is WAY lower than a carbon cable breaking so I think I'll just watch the Simpsons from the ground.
I have to agree with the guy above, HOW WAS THIS OFFTOPIC? It was actually a bit on the funny side....
Because we all know the best benchmark is porn!!
The site is crawling dudes! I give it 10 mins before the server chokes.
Actually I think most of the things we have today are because of the ideas in books/movies/etc. Not becuase some writer "predicted" it but because some reader thought "man it would be cool to have one of those communicator thingys" and so he made one. I doubt most writers are ahead of thier time but they have damn good ideas which us ubergeeks latch on to and make a reality. Mark my words, one day some geek will beat his brains out until warp engines are cruising ships around the galaxy not because Gene Roddenberry had some kinda vision of the future but because his idea seemed like it made some sense and sparked the brain of a few fans.
That post was funny as hell...troll....I don't think so. Just because you mention Goatse.cx doesn't make it a troll. Besides I kinda think Goatse is one of those running inside /. jokes
MOD IT UP MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
When I got my cable, the prospects were full 24 hour online connections, blazing speed, and all the B/W I could handle. Now that the cable guys have a huge customer base they suddenly realize they shot their mouths off and can't give us what they promised. It would be like Chevy offereing a new car that they claimed got 80 mpg on the cheapest gas and then after selling a few hundred thousand admitting that the car really gets only 20 mpg and thats on the expensive gas. Hey, I'll admit it, I D/L lots o stuff from new games to new cd's. THAT'S WHY I GOT CABLE. If they decide to penalize me for using my cable for what I got it for then I'll drop it and go back to my $10/month dial up. Why else would someone buy cable? You don't need it to view web pages or get your email. You buy it to D/L shit at lightning speeds. So I drop my cable for dial up again. Does that mean I'll rush down to Best Buy to get all the latest greatest Britney Sucks album or The Sims #47: Nice Coffin. NOPE. I never did it before I had cable and I'm not gonna start. I just can't afford $60 bucks a game or $20 a cd. My only treat IS cable. So I'll do without like I always did and go back to my goal of a hundredth level Sorceress on Diablo 2 and play it till I can't stand it anymore. Either way just because they stopped my piracy doesn't mean thier sales will sudenly skyrocket and I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way. Let the cable company screw up thier business model. They have a good product but as with all things I'll drop it for something better if I'm not satisfied. Or I'll do without. PERIOD.