Yes, but FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD are not OS X. The value added is proprietary. Not to mention, even the core of the OS is very much similar to Next as well as BSD.
"And I would argue that anyone who does not see the *potential* of Linux, both in terms of technology development and the bottom line, is an idiot. "
Sure, and don't you see the *potential* in FreeBSD? In fact, it's been technically superior in a number of ways for a while. Only with Linux 2.6 is Linux really getting an edge over FreeBSD.
"What I mean here are the folks who, despite the staggering amount of evidence and press to the contrary, still think of Linux and OSS software as some sort of quaint ameature effort."
Hmm, that is one hell of a generalization. There are MANY OSS project which are quant amature efforts. There are also many which are not. But it's true that as a whole, no Linux based system has anywhere close to the integration and polish of commercial systems. To this very day, I still haven't managed to get my office "Linux" computer to fully work. *Something* is always broken.
"The head of my division is one of these guys -- we've taken to calling him "executivus obsoletus". "
Wow, aren't we conceded! Did you ever stop to think that just *maybe* that exective is much older, and more experienced than you? Did you consider that maybe he doesn't like Linux because he knows better?
I used to like Linux too, and never understood those experienced admins and executives. Then I completed my CS degree in addition to reading some real CS articles on operating systems. I quickly came to the realization that Linux is not all that, and it never has been. That's when I because disgusted with the Linux community for putting on such a farce of a show.
Ha. Just wait till SCO wins. Then you can eat your damn GPL. This company just decided to go bankrupt. I guess QNX will be getting a lot more business.
"If such a client was written to DOS or Windows it would simple reboot. So it was a sanity check, at the time."
Hmm, I just realized that this probably wouldn't work though. I remember when I used to code for DOS, I'd often replace the keyboard handler with my own (so I could access multiple keys at once). I'm not sure if CTRL-ALT-DEL worked anymore once I did that.
They didn't HAVE to release anything at all you know. You seem to be angry at them for being kind. Having someone elses source code is not a right, it's a privilege. They are letting you into their house to look around, naturally they ask who you are.
Phooey to your obnoxious and selfish attitude, wanting everything for free.
The Dragonfly BSD website has lots of information, but in short they are moving away from a monolithic kernel to a more micro kernel like design that uses message passing.
They are also planning large changes to the packaging system. The new system will be similar to Debian's apt but will make it easier to upgrade only portions of the system (like only one application).
And moral issues are always relevent to moral people.
But not all morals are the same. I, for instance, think that the GPL is a terrible license. I have no problem with BSD or propietary licenses though. Why?
I see the GPL as being very hypocritical. Preaching some twisted form of freedom while imposing restrictions on software. At least proprietary licenses are very clear in that sense.
Don't let the FSF delude you. We are talking about software here. There are much much much more important issues in the world than software licenses. Your energies would be far better spent on those problems (think world poverty, environmental concerns, the increasing aggressiveness of the USA, etc).
US don't want to watch a bunch of Brits, they want to see their own honorable troops. If you want a history lesson, go to class, not the movie theater.
I can't believe you think this is ok. The problem is that people think these movies are REAL. The history is incorrect, and often US troops are not nearly as honorable as they are portrayed. War is war, and US troops are just as viscious as any other troops.
What the movie industry is doing is almost a form of brainwashing. I'm sorry that you can't see this.
No kidding. That's why I don't go to the movies here in Canada anymore, most films are American here and it shows.
I've gone to the occasional film over the last two years only to regret it. The majority of them are full of American bullshit and propaganda. Not to mention fake American biased history such as in U571. And don't get me started with American action movies. They used to be pretty dumb. But now they are so dumb I'm suprised anyone can possibly watch them without crying.
No wonder the average American is completely clueless when it comes to science. These movies teach them to be that way!
The saddest thing is that American movies are not even worth watching if they were free. Since about 2-3 years ago, Hollywood has died. Only a few gems have come out recently.
In contrast, independant low budget films are really starting to catch on here in Canada. And more and more, the European small films are really catching on too.
I'm far more afraid of the USA having ICBMs than India.
If people are stupid enough to blow each other up then we deserve to die. The fear of war should never be used to prevent the advancement of science and our dreams.
"When I write code and give it to you under the terms of the GPL, I am giving you permission to modify and redistribute my code (with certain restrictions) in ways my copyright wouldn't allow you to do."
Sure, but if GNUCash is ruled to have illegal code in it and the courts decide that no one can use it, than you can no longer contribute to it or use it. You're welcome to go make another GNUCash of course.
"And more: if a court orders that Novel, for example, can use MY code in ways that I expressly forbid (and I hold the copyright), then it stands that I can use their code, or yours, in ways that you don't want me to (and which your copyright gives you the exclusive rights to)."
If a court orders you to give up your code to Novel, then Novel gets your code. That doesn't give you the right to go break the law either. Think of this, someone sues you for, say, insulting them. You don't think you did anything wrong. But the courts decide you must pay up. That's it, you pay up, and you have no rights to go take someone elses money just becuase you feel your money was wrongly taken.
You don't seem to understand, the courts can order whatever they like.
* Could a court revolk my GPL-given right to modify GNUCash?
Yes. What GPL given right? You speak of the GPL as if it is GOD or something. It is not. If the courts say the GPL is worthless. Well, it's worthless.
* Could a court grant the right to Novel to sell a modified, binary-only version of Reiser v 4?
Sure. Are you ok? I'm starting to be conserned for your health here. You do understand that the courts MAKE the laws right?
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He he, no, your not allowed to joke about the US apparently. In fact, your not allowed to recall facts either it seems. I got moderated flamebait for doing that.:(
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The sooner little stores like this "get it" the better.
I really hate this kind of phrase. Get what exactly? Little stores "get it" perfectly fine. Like it or not, most regular users *want* windows. They don't care if they have to pay for it.
And besides, not everyone believes open source, and in particular GNU is all that.
Personally I think the open source community should wake up and realise that to most people, this stuff is just "computer stuff". They don't care if they pay money, if the source is there, nothing. They just want something easy that works. Linux and open source, more often than not, does not fit the bill for desktop users.
Sure, I agree. I don't pirate movies myself, or music anymore. But I don't buy it either. Why? 99% of movies suck, and I am boycotting the RIAA.
Why am I boycotting the RIAA? Well, they force me to listen to crap on the radio. Makes radio nearly useless. They also instituted fees so high that few online radio stations survived. Thank god not every country instituted those fees. These stations were the only way I found decent music.
Another reason to boycott the movies is the blatant American propaganda in them. There is almost no recent movie that doesn't somehow go ra ra America. No thanks.
But you do have a point. Most people just want stuff for free. That won't stop me from trying to get others to boycott the RIAA (MPAA doesn't need any help, they are doing a great job of losing customers themselves).
While you are correct that an integral is a summation of an infinite amount of zero size slices, it does not assume that time (or whatever you are integrating) can be broken into atomic units.
In fact, calculus exists presicly *because* mathamaticians don't make that assumption. For simple surfaces you can can replace an integral with a very large sum and get an approximation, but the integral takes into account for the fact that the surface really can't be broken down into peices.
That said, calculus has nothing to do with having an instant of time. In current physics there are infinite instances of time. In fact, between any two instances, there are also infinite instances and so on. Time is still continuous however.
If you want to compare with relativity, what Einstien said was that you can't properly look at a point in spacetime without some other point as reference. This fact can also be described with calculus and is actually very similar to not having any instance of time.
My money is on Canadian Arrow. In addition to being from my country, they have already test fired their engines, the most important part of a rocket. The Rutan boys could work, but no one has ever done what they are trying. The rocket approach is tried and true.
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Yes, but FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD are not OS X. The value added is proprietary. Not to mention, even the core of the OS is very much similar to Next as well as BSD.
HAHA. Ok. Smart guy. Care to back that up?
I thought not.
"And I would argue that anyone who does not see the *potential* of Linux, both in terms of technology development and the bottom line, is an idiot. "
Sure, and don't you see the *potential* in FreeBSD? In fact, it's been technically superior in a number of ways for a while. Only with Linux 2.6 is Linux really getting an edge over FreeBSD.
"What I mean here are the folks who, despite the staggering amount of evidence and press to the contrary, still think of Linux and OSS software as some sort of quaint ameature effort."
Hmm, that is one hell of a generalization. There are MANY OSS project which are quant amature efforts. There are also many which are not. But it's true that as a whole, no Linux based system has anywhere close to the integration and polish of commercial systems. To this very day, I still haven't managed to get my office "Linux" computer to fully work. *Something* is always broken.
"The head of my division is one of these guys -- we've taken to calling him "executivus obsoletus". "
Wow, aren't we conceded! Did you ever stop to think that just *maybe* that exective is much older, and more experienced than you? Did you consider that maybe he doesn't like Linux because he knows better?
I used to like Linux too, and never understood those experienced admins and executives. Then I completed my CS degree in addition to reading some real CS articles on operating systems. I quickly came to the realization that Linux is not all that, and it never has been. That's when I because disgusted with the Linux community for putting on such a farce of a show.
Ha. Just wait till SCO wins. Then you can eat your damn GPL. This company just decided to go bankrupt. I guess QNX will be getting a lot more business.
Ah, so that explains why they always lose by being cocky.
Probably not under NT4, no. I did it under DOS by directly replacing the interrupt.
Yeah, Linux is sooo much more leet, you have to hit the reset key when it crashes like a real man!
"If such a client was written to DOS or Windows it would simple reboot. So it was a sanity check, at the time."
Hmm, I just realized that this probably wouldn't work though. I remember when I used to code for DOS, I'd often replace the keyboard handler with my own (so I could access multiple keys at once). I'm not sure if CTRL-ALT-DEL worked anymore once I did that.
I guess it would still stop simple front-ends.
They didn't HAVE to release anything at all you know. You seem to be angry at them for being kind. Having someone elses source code is not a right, it's a privilege. They are letting you into their house to look around, naturally they ask who you are.
Phooey to your obnoxious and selfish attitude, wanting everything for free.
The Dragonfly BSD website has lots of information, but in short they are moving away from a monolithic kernel to a more micro kernel like design that uses message passing.
They are also planning large changes to the packaging system. The new system will be similar to Debian's apt but will make it easier to upgrade only portions of the system (like only one application).
Slashdot is primarily a forum, not a news agency. Slashdot doesn't even report on the news: its users do.
That doesn't seem to stop it's editors from putting snide remarks in all the story posts.
And moral issues are always relevent to moral people.
But not all morals are the same. I, for instance, think that the GPL is a terrible license. I have no problem with BSD or propietary licenses though. Why?
I see the GPL as being very hypocritical. Preaching some twisted form of freedom while imposing restrictions on software. At least proprietary licenses are very clear in that sense.
Don't let the FSF delude you. We are talking about software here. There are much much much more important issues in the world than software licenses. Your energies would be far better spent on those problems (think world poverty, environmental concerns, the increasing aggressiveness of the USA, etc).
US don't want to watch a bunch of Brits, they want to see their own honorable troops. If you want a history lesson, go to class, not the movie theater.
I can't believe you think this is ok. The problem is that people think these movies are REAL. The history is incorrect, and often US troops are not nearly as honorable as they are portrayed. War is war, and US troops are just as viscious as any other troops.
What the movie industry is doing is almost a form of brainwashing. I'm sorry that you can't see this.
American films are primarily aimed at Americans
No kidding. That's why I don't go to the movies here in Canada anymore, most films are American here and it shows.
I've gone to the occasional film over the last two years only to regret it. The majority of them are full of American bullshit and propaganda. Not to mention fake American biased history such as in U571. And don't get me started with American action movies. They used to be pretty dumb. But now they are so dumb I'm suprised anyone can possibly watch them without crying.
No wonder the average American is completely clueless when it comes to science. These movies teach them to be that way!
The saddest thing is that American movies are not even worth watching if they were free. Since about 2-3 years ago, Hollywood has died. Only a few gems have come out recently.
In contrast, independant low budget films are really starting to catch on here in Canada. And more and more, the European small films are really catching on too.
I'm far more afraid of the USA having ICBMs than India.
If people are stupid enough to blow each other up then we deserve to die. The fear of war should never be used to prevent the advancement of science and our dreams.
I found it funny. I use debian everyday. Unstable is a poor exuse for having up to date software.
You sound like a typical *arrogant* debian zealot.
"When I write code and give it to you under the terms of the GPL, I am giving you permission to modify and redistribute my code (with certain restrictions) in ways my copyright wouldn't allow you to do."
Sure, but if GNUCash is ruled to have illegal code in it and the courts decide that no one can use it, than you can no longer contribute to it or use it. You're welcome to go make another GNUCash of course.
"And more: if a court orders that Novel, for example, can use MY code in ways that I expressly forbid (and I hold the copyright), then it stands that I can use their code, or yours, in ways that you don't want me to (and which your copyright gives you the exclusive rights to)."
If a court orders you to give up your code to Novel, then Novel gets your code. That doesn't give you the right to go break the law either. Think of this, someone sues you for, say, insulting them. You don't think you did anything wrong. But the courts decide you must pay up. That's it, you pay up, and you have no rights to go take someone elses money just becuase you feel your money was wrongly taken.
You don't seem to understand, the courts can order whatever they like.
* Could a court revolk my GPL-given right to modify GNUCash?
Yes. What GPL given right? You speak of the GPL as if it is GOD or something. It is not. If the courts say the GPL is worthless. Well, it's worthless.
* Could a court grant the right to Novel to sell a modified, binary-only version of Reiser v 4?
Sure. Are you ok? I'm starting to be conserned for your health here. You do understand that the courts MAKE the laws right?
He he, no, your not allowed to joke about the US apparently. In fact, your not allowed to recall facts either it seems. I got moderated flamebait for doing that. :(
Hmm, your defending the USA??
Remember Freedom Fries?
I think *you* should grow up maybe.
The sooner little stores like this "get it" the better.
I really hate this kind of phrase. Get what exactly? Little stores "get it" perfectly fine. Like it or not, most regular users *want* windows. They don't care if they have to pay for it.
And besides, not everyone believes open source, and in particular GNU is all that.
Personally I think the open source community should wake up and realise that to most people, this stuff is just "computer stuff". They don't care if they pay money, if the source is there, nothing. They just want something easy that works. Linux and open source, more often than not, does not fit the bill for desktop users.
Sure, I agree. I don't pirate movies myself, or music anymore. But I don't buy it either. Why? 99% of movies suck, and I am boycotting the RIAA.
Why am I boycotting the RIAA? Well, they force me to listen to crap on the radio. Makes radio nearly useless. They also instituted fees so high that few online radio stations survived. Thank god not every country instituted those fees. These stations were the only way I found decent music.
Another reason to boycott the movies is the blatant American propaganda in them. There is almost no recent movie that doesn't somehow go ra ra America. No thanks.
But you do have a point. Most people just want stuff for free. That won't stop me from trying to get others to boycott the RIAA (MPAA doesn't need any help, they are doing a great job of losing customers themselves).
While you are correct that an integral is a summation of an infinite amount of zero size slices, it does not assume that time (or whatever you are integrating) can be broken into atomic units.
In fact, calculus exists presicly *because* mathamaticians don't make that assumption. For simple surfaces you can can replace an integral with a very large sum and get an approximation, but the integral takes into account for the fact that the surface really can't be broken down into peices.
That said, calculus has nothing to do with having an instant of time. In current physics there are infinite instances of time. In fact, between any two instances, there are also infinite instances and so on. Time is still continuous however.
If you want to compare with relativity, what Einstien said was that you can't properly look at a point in spacetime without some other point as reference. This fact can also be described with calculus and is actually very similar to not having any instance of time.
Aw yeah, I hope they all succeed. :)
My money is on Canadian Arrow. In addition to being from my country, they have already test fired their engines, the most important part of a rocket. The Rutan boys could work, but no one has ever done what they are trying. The rocket approach is tried and true.