The problem is that some shutdown scripts aren't run at shutdown problem. Expect this to be fixed in 10.2.2. I believe that if you shutdown from the terminal that the problem doesn't happen. (I may be wrong on that, so don't quote me on it) If you Google a bit you can find lots of tips on getting your custom shutdown scripts to work right.
Try www.osxvnc.com
I've not used it, so I can't speak for its speed. I'd expect it won't work quite as well as X11. (Although running X11 on Aqua is really nice with some of the Aqua based window managers)
The other thing people ask for are virtual screens. Try www.codetek.com
They only allow 2 screens in the version you download. But if you pay a shareware fee you get something that is just as functional as Linux.
I think you'll find that the variations aren't so much variations from Unix, but from Linux. Many of the differences the article outlines are simply "hiding" the Unix from newbies (i.e. dangerous directories) and can easily be over ridden.
The article's comments about NetInfo are a little off as well. OSX has been moving to using NetInfo less and less. 10.2 tends to utilize many more traditional ways of doing things.
I should add that most of those elements are hold overs from NeXT and the Darwin team appears to be making it more like a traditional BSD.
BTW - if you want a good Finder replacement with more Unix tools try Path Finder. It has lots of nice things such as creating SymLinks rather than Aliases etc. (Although Aliases are more powerful, but most Unix tools don't recognize them)
Actually I believe the original symbol (which is actually found in ancient Judaism as well) has the lines on the end of the "cross" pointed the opposite direction as the swastica. However most people can't tell the difference and it all gets labeled as the same.
Lables are available in the Finder as a Haxie. Check out Version Tracker to download it. I did and then discovered that I *still* don't use them. Pop up folders are in OSX now although once again I rarely use them.
The big problem with the Finder that other file explorers tend not to have is that it slows down dramatically for large lists of files. It isn't as bad as in 10.1 which made it almost unusable for me. 10.2 is fast enough. But it is a bit of a pain.
Also if you don't like the Finder or think it doesn't have enough Unix-like features, check out the latest version of SNAX. It has a menu to turn on/off displays of hidden directories (including the standard Unix ones) It optionally can "colorize" alternative lines in a file listing like that old 132 col printer paper back in the 80's. I find it kind of nice. It also has other nice features like a pop down list of recently visited directories (will full paths), It also fixes the Finder's annoying feature of not allowing sorting while in column view. Consider it the Finder but with lots of little features power-users love. It also supports labels. I find it's preview drawer MUCH nicer than the way the Finder does its preview as well.
What always amazes me are the kinds of apps that break. Typically they *aren't* ones that ought to be doing low level stuff. I mean perhaps they are relying on questionable libraries. But still. The typical "high level" app shouldn't be breaking as one moves from 10.0 to 10.1 to 10.2.
The difference is that these calls are obviously better documented than the ones Microsoft was using. Further the big problem with Microsoft was generating APIs for MS Office that they wouldn't share with Word Perfect or Lotus. This gave Microsoft a competitive advantage with respect to things like OLE integration or the like.
Now if you've used Apple's software, you'll notice that just getting them to even make use of the supplied APIs is a problem. Break out AppleWorks. How much of the OS calls does it even make use of? How does it handle fonts? Does it use that nice font chooser? No. How about all those other nice features of OSX? Nope.
So Apple isn't really utilizing those calls except for system software that comes with the OS. If anything, even half of those apps don't utilize them enough. (Although thankfully the Finder works better in 10.2)
Unlike the MS situation, it seems 3rd parties utilize these "undocumented calls" more than Apple does.
I must agree. The only thing I wish was that the TK library was ported properly. That way more admin tools with half decent UI could be found on OSX. That's about the only complain I have and I expect that will be solved soon. Worst case scenario is to install X Windows to run those kinds of Apps. I installed X Windows but to be honest have run it only a half dozen times because there is no need.
Even Admin like tools are popping up using Applescript calling shell commands. So the lack of TK isn't as big a deal as one might think. (Although I wish I had it for my python scripts)
Of course you don't need to buy a "spiffy LCD monitor." The dual 867 will work on regular monitors. (Of course I love my 17" LCD, even though I've been spoilt by 21" CRTs in the past)
The big reason XServe is being taken seriously is that, unlike Apple's other hardware offerings, they are cost competitive with competitors. There was an article on one of the server magazines that compared costs and Apple beat both Dell and Sun. I'm not sure why that is, but it was true.
Apple's number one problem is that their hardware costs so much compared with a system from Dell, HP or an other manufacturer. Plus Motorola can't provide half decent chips that compete with offerings from AMD or Intel. This drives up the cost/power ratio of Apple versus Wintel machines. Apple must do something about this. (Although I didn't mind paying the premium for my new G4, which I love and is fast enough for what I do)
Wow - a person who picks Linux over OSX because you have to configue OSX/BSD more than Linux?
I thought the whole sexiness issue for Linux geeks was that you *had* to spend so much time configuring it, downloading the latest versions, etc. If you hate configuration, why go with Linux at all?
If, as the other poster mentioned, they had a resellers agreement with Apple, then this makes sense. However if they were purchasing them from Mac Warehouse and just adding to them I honestly don't see what Apple could do. How much "wear and tear" a computer has seems irrelevant. There are plenty of stores that purchase computers or other equipment in bulk from resellers to sell themselves. (Typically when that reseller is stopping sales on that material) Something odd is going on.
How is reselling a new Dell or Apple different from reselling a *used* Dell or Apple. I don't understand the distinction. (Nor how there could be a legal question unless they were advertising them as "new")
Just go to eBay. I bought about 5 oldschool OmniKey keyboards from the old Northgate systems. I *love* them. I just wish there was a USB adaptor so I could use them on my Mac as well.
The modern battlefield is not the battlefield of the gulf war. Rather it is more the battlefield of spec-ops. Reading the Aviation Now article on the topic it sounds like much of the motivation is destroying things without anyone knowing how it was destroyed and especially who destroyed it. The types of goals that peacetime missions of Seals and Delta Force do. The nice thing about the laser is this deniability.
For more conventional war there will be far more counter-measures. i.e. reflective materials and so forth on critical targets. Yet even there it is hard to protect everything. Even if you protect a SCUD missile it is unlikely you'd be able to protect all your C&C centers, fuel dumps and so forth.
The bigger issue is using it to start fires and destroy more civilian oriented targets. And that can still be rather critical even in a conventional war. The benefit is how precise it is which can help eliminate civilian targets. Imagine, for instance, using it to target the car of a terrorist so that the recent "blow up the whole building" in Palestine this week could be avoided.
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How well do unleaded cars run on the leaded gasoline of early cars? Even the car industry decided to lose some backwards compatibility. Although the shift from leaded to unleaded gasolines went quite well, although I believe that was due to government regulation.
Anyway, I'm not sure the car model applies to computers.
One additional thing that is a must if you are using the Mac for Unix-like stuff.
1. Buy a better keyboard. The one with the G4's is slightly small and doesn't have good arrow keys. The Microsoft Office keyboard is pretty good, although the function keys are in groups of 3 instead of groups of 4 which makes me screw up a lot. Combine it with QuickKeys and you are in power user nirvana.
2. Buy a better mouse. Once again the Microsoft optical mouse is great. Unfortunately not enough programs on the Mac use the context menu in an intelligent fashion. (IMO) Still this is a very nice mouse and more and more applications support the scroll wheel. It'll still seem like a step down from Windows, but the Mac is more consistent than most Linux apps with regards to the mouse. (IMO) So you'll enjoy it.
Once I did these two things my enjoyment of OSX went up enormously.
Some may slam me for picking Microsoft hardware. I don't know who they subcontract to for their stuff, but it is by far the best I've found. My favorite keyboard is still an old Northgate Omnikey keyboard I got off eBay. But unfortunately there's no old school PC Keyboard adapter -> USB. The MS Keyboard is probably my second favorite - minus those damn function keys.
As the writer a few levels up in this thread said. The problem with Microsoft as well as several other companies is when they buy some product to eliminate competition rather than continue it. Microsoft has done this several times although they are hardly alone.
Where I disagree with that writer is that Apple is doing this to a degree. With the companies they are purchasing they are typically halting Windows development. In that they are remarkably like Microsoft. (Bungie anyone? - I love Halo for my XBox but don't expect and OSX version any time soon) So while they aren't killing the products entirely, they certainly are kiling versions of the product.
To make an analogy, how would you feel if Microsoft bought Macromedia and then said that they would in the future be Windows only products?
(Yeah insert standard joke about speed of ports here)
That's true - the rendering farms would be more cost effective on Solaris or even cheap Linux boxes. However I can't help but wonder if Apple isn't planning a special OSX - server that is designed more for IBM's Power offerings rather than the G3/G4 chips by Motorolla. Yeah they'd lose some of the features that are important for the OS. But Apple's got to be getting pissed at Motorola by now. . .
In general if you can do a port to Linux the port to OSX will go that much faster. Usually the only programs that have problems are ones with special UI or that do low-level OS tweaking.
I suspect that most of the custom stuff is non-UI based. But if there is some, this would be an excellent place for Apple to test what they need to do to make OSX better.
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The problem is that some shutdown scripts aren't run at shutdown problem. Expect this to be fixed in 10.2.2. I believe that if you shutdown from the terminal that the problem doesn't happen. (I may be wrong on that, so don't quote me on it) If you Google a bit you can find lots of tips on getting your custom shutdown scripts to work right.
Most companies said that because some changes with 10.2 broke a lot of "low level" software. I've been running it with 10.2.1 with no trouble though.
Try www.osxvnc.com I've not used it, so I can't speak for its speed. I'd expect it won't work quite as well as X11. (Although running X11 on Aqua is really nice with some of the Aqua based window managers) The other thing people ask for are virtual screens. Try www.codetek.com They only allow 2 screens in the version you download. But if you pay a shareware fee you get something that is just as functional as Linux.
I think you'll find that the variations aren't so much variations from Unix, but from Linux. Many of the differences the article outlines are simply "hiding" the Unix from newbies (i.e. dangerous directories) and can easily be over ridden.
The article's comments about NetInfo are a little off as well. OSX has been moving to using NetInfo less and less. 10.2 tends to utilize many more traditional ways of doing things.
I should add that most of those elements are hold overs from NeXT and the Darwin team appears to be making it more like a traditional BSD.
BTW - if you want a good Finder replacement with more Unix tools try Path Finder. It has lots of nice things such as creating SymLinks rather than Aliases etc. (Although Aliases are more powerful, but most Unix tools don't recognize them)
Realize that many who believe in a pre-mortal life use this same verse to support that. So it need not be taken to speak about the fetus.
Actually I believe the original symbol (which is actually found in ancient Judaism as well) has the lines on the end of the "cross" pointed the opposite direction as the swastica. However most people can't tell the difference and it all gets labeled as the same.
Lables are available in the Finder as a Haxie. Check out Version Tracker to download it. I did and then discovered that I *still* don't use them. Pop up folders are in OSX now although once again I rarely use them. The big problem with the Finder that other file explorers tend not to have is that it slows down dramatically for large lists of files. It isn't as bad as in 10.1 which made it almost unusable for me. 10.2 is fast enough. But it is a bit of a pain. Also if you don't like the Finder or think it doesn't have enough Unix-like features, check out the latest version of SNAX. It has a menu to turn on/off displays of hidden directories (including the standard Unix ones) It optionally can "colorize" alternative lines in a file listing like that old 132 col printer paper back in the 80's. I find it kind of nice. It also has other nice features like a pop down list of recently visited directories (will full paths), It also fixes the Finder's annoying feature of not allowing sorting while in column view. Consider it the Finder but with lots of little features power-users love. It also supports labels. I find it's preview drawer MUCH nicer than the way the Finder does its preview as well.
What always amazes me are the kinds of apps that break. Typically they *aren't* ones that ought to be doing low level stuff. I mean perhaps they are relying on questionable libraries. But still. The typical "high level" app shouldn't be breaking as one moves from 10.0 to 10.1 to 10.2.
The difference is that these calls are obviously better documented than the ones Microsoft was using. Further the big problem with Microsoft was generating APIs for MS Office that they wouldn't share with Word Perfect or Lotus. This gave Microsoft a competitive advantage with respect to things like OLE integration or the like. Now if you've used Apple's software, you'll notice that just getting them to even make use of the supplied APIs is a problem. Break out AppleWorks. How much of the OS calls does it even make use of? How does it handle fonts? Does it use that nice font chooser? No. How about all those other nice features of OSX? Nope. So Apple isn't really utilizing those calls except for system software that comes with the OS. If anything, even half of those apps don't utilize them enough. (Although thankfully the Finder works better in 10.2) Unlike the MS situation, it seems 3rd parties utilize these "undocumented calls" more than Apple does.
I must agree. The only thing I wish was that the TK library was ported properly. That way more admin tools with half decent UI could be found on OSX. That's about the only complain I have and I expect that will be solved soon. Worst case scenario is to install X Windows to run those kinds of Apps. I installed X Windows but to be honest have run it only a half dozen times because there is no need. Even Admin like tools are popping up using Applescript calling shell commands. So the lack of TK isn't as big a deal as one might think. (Although I wish I had it for my python scripts)
Of course you don't need to buy a "spiffy LCD monitor." The dual 867 will work on regular monitors. (Of course I love my 17" LCD, even though I've been spoilt by 21" CRTs in the past)
The big reason XServe is being taken seriously is that, unlike Apple's other hardware offerings, they are cost competitive with competitors. There was an article on one of the server magazines that compared costs and Apple beat both Dell and Sun. I'm not sure why that is, but it was true. Apple's number one problem is that their hardware costs so much compared with a system from Dell, HP or an other manufacturer. Plus Motorola can't provide half decent chips that compete with offerings from AMD or Intel. This drives up the cost/power ratio of Apple versus Wintel machines. Apple must do something about this. (Although I didn't mind paying the premium for my new G4, which I love and is fast enough for what I do)
I thought the whole sexiness issue for Linux geeks was that you *had* to spend so much time configuring it, downloading the latest versions, etc. If you hate configuration, why go with Linux at all?
If, as the other poster mentioned, they had a resellers agreement with Apple, then this makes sense. However if they were purchasing them from Mac Warehouse and just adding to them I honestly don't see what Apple could do. How much "wear and tear" a computer has seems irrelevant. There are plenty of stores that purchase computers or other equipment in bulk from resellers to sell themselves. (Typically when that reseller is stopping sales on that material) Something odd is going on.
How is reselling a new Dell or Apple different from reselling a *used* Dell or Apple. I don't understand the distinction. (Nor how there could be a legal question unless they were advertising them as "new")
Just go to eBay. I bought about 5 oldschool OmniKey keyboards from the old Northgate systems. I *love* them. I just wish there was a USB adaptor so I could use them on my Mac as well.
For more conventional war there will be far more counter-measures. i.e. reflective materials and so forth on critical targets. Yet even there it is hard to protect everything. Even if you protect a SCUD missile it is unlikely you'd be able to protect all your C&C centers, fuel dumps and so forth.
The bigger issue is using it to start fires and destroy more civilian oriented targets. And that can still be rather critical even in a conventional war. The benefit is how precise it is which can help eliminate civilian targets. Imagine, for instance, using it to target the car of a terrorist so that the recent "blow up the whole building" in Palestine this week could be avoided.
How well do unleaded cars run on the leaded gasoline of early cars? Even the car industry decided to lose some backwards compatibility. Although the shift from leaded to unleaded gasolines went quite well, although I believe that was due to government regulation. Anyway, I'm not sure the car model applies to computers.
1. Buy a better keyboard. The one with the G4's is slightly small and doesn't have good arrow keys. The Microsoft Office keyboard is pretty good, although the function keys are in groups of 3 instead of groups of 4 which makes me screw up a lot. Combine it with QuickKeys and you are in power user nirvana.
2. Buy a better mouse. Once again the Microsoft optical mouse is great. Unfortunately not enough programs on the Mac use the context menu in an intelligent fashion. (IMO) Still this is a very nice mouse and more and more applications support the scroll wheel. It'll still seem like a step down from Windows, but the Mac is more consistent than most Linux apps with regards to the mouse. (IMO) So you'll enjoy it.
Once I did these two things my enjoyment of OSX went up enormously. Some may slam me for picking Microsoft hardware. I don't know who they subcontract to for their stuff, but it is by far the best I've found. My favorite keyboard is still an old Northgate Omnikey keyboard I got off eBay. But unfortunately there's no old school PC Keyboard adapter -> USB. The MS Keyboard is probably my second favorite - minus those damn function keys.
As the writer a few levels up in this thread said. The problem with Microsoft as well as several other companies is when they buy some product to eliminate competition rather than continue it. Microsoft has done this several times although they are hardly alone. Where I disagree with that writer is that Apple is doing this to a degree. With the companies they are purchasing they are typically halting Windows development. In that they are remarkably like Microsoft. (Bungie anyone? - I love Halo for my XBox but don't expect and OSX version any time soon) So while they aren't killing the products entirely, they certainly are kiling versions of the product. To make an analogy, how would you feel if Microsoft bought Macromedia and then said that they would in the future be Windows only products? (Yeah insert standard joke about speed of ports here)
Well yea, he is smart and ingenius. However he will steal all your smoke detectors. . .
Just think what this kid would have done if he was some intern at the lab from Terminator 2?
Feynman had the patent on nuclear subs. Does that count?
BBSes didn't die. They just became BLOGS or web forums.
That's true - the rendering farms would be more cost effective on Solaris or even cheap Linux boxes. However I can't help but wonder if Apple isn't planning a special OSX - server that is designed more for IBM's Power offerings rather than the G3/G4 chips by Motorolla. Yeah they'd lose some of the features that are important for the OS. But Apple's got to be getting pissed at Motorola by now. . .
In general if you can do a port to Linux the port to OSX will go that much faster. Usually the only programs that have problems are ones with special UI or that do low-level OS tweaking. I suspect that most of the custom stuff is non-UI based. But if there is some, this would be an excellent place for Apple to test what they need to do to make OSX better.