IT as a field is in a really bad place right now. It hasn't been around long enough to become a traditional institution, but it has been around long enough to go through a major labor glut. People still don't take IT seriously, and actually considered the 2001-2002 collapse to be come-uppance for a profession they always hated and feared. Get a job where you will be more liked, such as lawyer, IRS agent, dentist, or dog catcher.
I guess when you are worth $40 billion you can tell Bill how to run his business.
Yes, because no rich people are stupid.
Bill knows this and knows what sells
No, he doesn't. That's exactly the point of all of this. If he knew what sells, he wouldn't have been blindsided by the success of Google's business model, and start yet another round of frantic catch-up to superior emergent technology from another company. He didn't know what Apple knew when he ripped off their graphical interface, he didn't know what Novell knew when he foisted AD snake oil in the face of Novell's (real) directory, and he doesn't know what the Linux community knows about the importance of a development and user community. He's hoping to get this with a marketing campaign with catch words like "passion" and hiring a few key open source people specifically to work on a Microsoft version of a Linux user community. Do you see a pattern here?
If he comes up with another couple of billion at the end of the day, it will be because he successfully stole other people's ideas, cheated, or broke the law - the same way he got the first 40.
Frantically playing catch up to technologically superior competition. This all seems familiar somehow.
Looks like Microsoft is "innovating" again.
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but what is so unfriendly about the Windows XP install, in particular?
I know a lot of people who bought new computers after being spywared rather than attempt an XP reinstall. I think this casts the whole "easy to install" question in a totally new light. The real question is - who installs their own operating system? We (mostly Linux users, a few Windows power users and astroturfers thrown in for good measure) have come up in the years of installing your own operating system - installing DOS 5.0, doing your first '95 upgrade, etc. We live in a world where people don't do that anymore. No one installs XP. They buy the computer with it already on there. Most people don't back up their data and have to rebuild their entire digital universe from scratch when they change from one computer to the next, so the pain of doing so is reserved to and part of the trauma of buying a completely new computer.
Why do people do this? What is so hard about Windows XP installation? 2 things:
The license code.
You dont' have a functional computer when you are finished
Modern Windows multi-step phone home licensing is beyond what the average user wants to mess around with. I think that is clearly deliberate. But the most important problem with installing XP is that when you are done, you aren't done. You have to put all your programs back on it. Windows installs without an office suite, imaging editing software for your digital camera, software to talk to your blackberry, etc. etc. etc. This is an area where I think Linux has a very big advantage which has not been exploited from a marketing perspective. The software repositories for something like a Debian or Gentoo are truly amazing. You are a few clicks away (in the case of Synaptic, for example) from a universe of software most Windows users can never imagine. All Linux systems install with a MS-compatible office suite by default, and have thousands of other programs to choose from to do everything from games to development to desktop publishing. Windows doesn't even come with a decent text editor.
As with so many things, therefore, comparing the installation of Windows to that of Linux is like comparing apples to oranges. Software freedom is a qualitative matter rather than quantitative, and, as usual, you can never accomplish through a Windows XP installation what is possible when you install Linux.
100% spot on. Users get what they expect out of a system. If they expect that it will be difficult to use and that it will screw up their working lives, then it will.
There is 1 million fungus spores on the same area of ground, bed of leaves, hospital floor, etc. Still panicked? Try distraction. You are never more than 3 feet away from a spider.
I was familiar with the Nessus community some years back. The last few versions of Nessus are rewrites by the main author to prepare the software for his commercial venture. There was considerable community support and contribution prior to that time. Once it became obvious what direction Nessus was going, that community faded. While it doesn't surprise me that Nessus doesn't enjoy a large development community at present, the author's claim of little community contribution is at best a case of confusing cause and effect, and at worst a case of unbelievable arrogance.
For Nessus to close the source in the next version, wouldn't they have to completely rewrite it? If Nessus 3 is derived from the Nessus 2.x and prior GPL codebase, doesn't that require that it also be released under the GPL?
I'm also a long term Linux user. Not only have I never seen "lib dependency hell", I have no idea what "In Windows terms, random blue screens" means. Was he getting random KPs? I've never seen a random KP. Every KP I've ever seen was my fault, and I've only seen them on Gentoo when I forgot to compile in disk drivers. I find it very suspicious that no useable technical details about these "crashes" was disclosed.
I probably play with the same one. I know you can get to the moon twice a month from ISS using non-coplanar trajectory, but how would you get somewhere like Mars? You'd only have 2 chances a year for the iss plane to line up with a potential launch window. Or would you slingshot the moon and use it to change plane?
Sounds like a challenge! Whoever comes up with the scn file for the launch window with a configured flight plan for TransX or IMFD first wins!
"A patch has already been released" is indeed a convincing response. "You have the source code so fix it yourself" is, to put it mildly, not.
OK, try this: We have the source code, so fixing it is soley a matter of the need and interest of the users of the software, rather than what is at best a tangential business need to make you feel like you are safe.
Oh, yes, AOL will totally annihilate Google. Whatever will Google do if the unspeakable power of AOL is brought to bear against it? The world will end if Microsoft buys AOL. Woe, etc.
...the orbiter shows that the climate on Mars is heating up at the same rate as Earth's?
It would only really be interesting if there were another outside factor responsible for the heat increase on both planets, like if the sun were in a period of increased activity...
Poetic as in, you and your organization are so short sighted and plan so badly that the only way your systems attract your attention at all is to crash? 3 years of runtime and you think that poetically represents failure? WTF?
I hope that thing was a print gateway, and that there is a Unix box circa 1983 walled in somewhere under a stairwell that is even now filling its disk drives ip with print jobs.
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IT as a field is in a really bad place right now. It hasn't been around long enough to become a traditional institution, but it has been around long enough to go through a major labor glut. People still don't take IT seriously, and actually considered the 2001-2002 collapse to be come-uppance for a profession they always hated and feared. Get a job where you will be more liked, such as lawyer, IRS agent, dentist, or dog catcher.
So, what are YOU doing for Emperor Pausebeck's day?
how many times that software applications created the same problem?
Yeah, that shareware side scroller I wrote - it accidentally installs a rootkit, violates the DMCA and copyright, and breaks your CDROM drive. Ooops.
These communist bastards must be stopped. We'll start with this guy.
I guess when you are worth $40 billion you can tell Bill how to run his business.
Yes, because no rich people are stupid.
Bill knows this and knows what sells
No, he doesn't. That's exactly the point of all of this. If he knew what sells, he wouldn't have been blindsided by the success of Google's business model, and start yet another round of frantic catch-up to superior emergent technology from another company. He didn't know what Apple knew when he ripped off their graphical interface, he didn't know what Novell knew when he foisted AD snake oil in the face of Novell's (real) directory, and he doesn't know what the Linux community knows about the importance of a development and user community. He's hoping to get this with a marketing campaign with catch words like "passion" and hiring a few key open source people specifically to work on a Microsoft version of a Linux user community. Do you see a pattern here?
If he comes up with another couple of billion at the end of the day, it will be because he successfully stole other people's ideas, cheated, or broke the law - the same way he got the first 40.
Frantically playing catch up to technologically superior competition. This all seems familiar somehow.
Looks like Microsoft is "innovating" again.
I know a lot of people who bought new computers after being spywared rather than attempt an XP reinstall. I think this casts the whole "easy to install" question in a totally new light. The real question is - who installs their own operating system? We (mostly Linux users, a few Windows power users and astroturfers thrown in for good measure) have come up in the years of installing your own operating system - installing DOS 5.0, doing your first '95 upgrade, etc. We live in a world where people don't do that anymore. No one installs XP. They buy the computer with it already on there. Most people don't back up their data and have to rebuild their entire digital universe from scratch when they change from one computer to the next, so the pain of doing so is reserved to and part of the trauma of buying a completely new computer.
Why do people do this? What is so hard about Windows XP installation? 2 things:
Modern Windows multi-step phone home licensing is beyond what the average user wants to mess around with. I think that is clearly deliberate. But the most important problem with installing XP is that when you are done, you aren't done. You have to put all your programs back on it. Windows installs without an office suite, imaging editing software for your digital camera, software to talk to your blackberry, etc. etc. etc. This is an area where I think Linux has a very big advantage which has not been exploited from a marketing perspective. The software repositories for something like a Debian or Gentoo are truly amazing. You are a few clicks away (in the case of Synaptic, for example) from a universe of software most Windows users can never imagine. All Linux systems install with a MS-compatible office suite by default, and have thousands of other programs to choose from to do everything from games to development to desktop publishing. Windows doesn't even come with a decent text editor.
As with so many things, therefore, comparing the installation of Windows to that of Linux is like comparing apples to oranges. Software freedom is a qualitative matter rather than quantitative, and, as usual, you can never accomplish through a Windows XP installation what is possible when you install Linux.
Persistent online identity is not always a good thing.
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100% spot on. Users get what they expect out of a system. If they expect that it will be difficult to use and that it will screw up their working lives, then it will.
There is 1 million fungus spores on the same area of ground, bed of leaves, hospital floor, etc. Still panicked? Try distraction. You are never more than 3 feet away from a spider.
You're welcome.
My God, man, are you saying that McNuggets are deliberately designed to be used as hypersonic projectiles?
I thought they stopped doing that because the radiation was more intense when flying near the poles.
Last one to hypersonic mass transit is a chicken!
I think such a chicken would be poorly suited to hypersonic airflow and rapidly disintegrate into a puff of flaming cacciatore.
And since nobody have been submitting GPL code
I was familiar with the Nessus community some years back. The last few versions of Nessus are rewrites by the main author to prepare the software for his commercial venture. There was considerable community support and contribution prior to that time. Once it became obvious what direction Nessus was going, that community faded. While it doesn't surprise me that Nessus doesn't enjoy a large development community at present, the author's claim of little community contribution is at best a case of confusing cause and effect, and at worst a case of unbelievable arrogance.
For Nessus to close the source in the next version, wouldn't they have to completely rewrite it? If Nessus 3 is derived from the Nessus 2.x and prior GPL codebase, doesn't that require that it also be released under the GPL?
I'm also a long term Linux user. Not only have I never seen "lib dependency hell", I have no idea what "In Windows terms, random blue screens" means. Was he getting random KPs? I've never seen a random KP. Every KP I've ever seen was my fault, and I've only seen them on Gentoo when I forgot to compile in disk drivers. I find it very suspicious that no useable technical details about these "crashes" was disclosed.
I probably play with the same one. I know you can get to the moon twice a month from ISS using non-coplanar trajectory, but how would you get somewhere like Mars? You'd only have 2 chances a year for the iss plane to line up with a potential launch window. Or would you slingshot the moon and use it to change plane?
Sounds like a challenge! Whoever comes up with the scn file for the launch window with a configured flight plan for TransX or IMFD first wins!
That's true. The ISS's orbit is a dead end. You can't use it for a launching point for anywhere.
"A patch has already been released" is indeed a convincing response. "You have the source code so fix it yourself" is, to put it mildly, not.
OK, try this: We have the source code, so fixing it is soley a matter of the need and interest of the users of the software, rather than what is at best a tangential business need to make you feel like you are safe.
Oh, yes, AOL will totally annihilate Google. Whatever will Google do if the unspeakable power of AOL is brought to bear against it? The world will end if Microsoft buys AOL. Woe, etc.
convincing?
...the orbiter shows that the climate on Mars is heating up at the same rate as Earth's?
It would only really be interesting if there were another outside factor responsible for the heat increase on both planets, like if the sun were in a period of increased activity...
the whole thing was sort of poetic
Poetic as in, you and your organization are so short sighted and plan so badly that the only way your systems attract your attention at all is to crash? 3 years of runtime and you think that poetically represents failure? WTF?
I hope that thing was a print gateway, and that there is a Unix box circa 1983 walled in somewhere under a stairwell that is even now filling its disk drives ip with print jobs.
What? You don't have a -.sh file lying around on your computer in -/-/?
Is this what the e-mail looked like to which you said "yes"?
I would not have believed my respect for you could diminish, but it has. Pathetic.